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#thinking about ougi
ougi07734 · 6 months
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nadekofannumber1 · 7 months
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It would be funny if they spoke (practicing speed lines)
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sinkableruby · 6 months
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smth abt ougi and queer narrativeness
thinking you won't be loved because of what you are. struggling with your identity
dying because it would be better for the story, buying into the narrative and conforming to it in that way. being the inherent bad guy, a monster
idk theres smth about it
and then also a feminist aspect
your existence being literally for some guy. only mattering for that, for someone else, until it turns out you have your own value too, actually.
it's just... yk
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akihatohnoofficial · 1 year
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koyomi araragi getting sexually harassed 👍
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hellsvestibule · 10 months
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I saw someone say like ougi is a transmasc character and it’s a harmless headcanon but I don’t agree. and if that were the case people preferring girl Ougis design would be really offputting. To me, ougi’s gender is more about the principle of eschewing definition. “Ougi is ougi.” They’re gender fluid or agender or something like that. Gender is only applicable to them by bugs bunny logic. Once they are settled into femininity being a possibility they immediately reject it and move on to “being a guy” without properly understanding it comes with new social caveats (don’t ask your lesbian upperclassman if she’s on her period) bc Ougi is principally inhuman and sees the construct of gender as a novelty, a further cause by which they can skew the perspective of reality. Which is principally silly. They are a silly little guy.
It’s why I default to they/them even though in practice ougi is, whatever uniform they’re wearing, and she/her and he/him aren’t inaccurate. Ougi imo cares about gender only in so far as they can toy with it and subvert it which is what makes them a nb icon. On one hand, araragi accepting ougi as a girl is extremely touching bc by extension he’s accepting her humanity and ability to choose who she is. But again Imo this is why almost immediately after she’s like. Ok, then, I can also be a boy, and now ougi is a boy. Ougi = ougi, and nothing else. A void of all else but their own personality and the drive to discover/embody mystery. Ougi “I’m like if a corpse was a girl.” Ougi “I’m just a little birthday boy it’s my birthday come on”
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birdmenmanga · 1 year
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food service shichiro coming back to haunt me. this time in customer service mode
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icharchivist · 2 months
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also for the record
if you can instant charge yourself youre just masturbating
if you can instacharge an ally youre really good
if you can instacharge multiple allies even more so so anon is clearly very lucky indeed
enjoy
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well that sure implies a lot about Siete but why.
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theouger · 3 months
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i think the reason i overeat and stress eat chips at least some of the time has to do with wanting to have some control over when i feel nauseous
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tokimekiinversion · 9 months
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feeling affectionate... and sentimental... so very much so
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yuesya · 9 months
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The image of Shiki beating respect for women(or just herself) into Zenins was kind of funny. Here's a quick sketch of Toji and his kind of hero worship.
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The fact that Naoya respects women in Mother Au simply because of Shiki beating up most of his male family tree is funny too.
Do older Zenins try to hush this story before the younger generation? I can't really picture Ougi or Naobito admitting to being beaten within an inch of their life because they run their mouths too much. Do Zenins tell this story each other in secret, or Naoya, Maki and Mai learn about it from the outside sources (eg. Gojos taunting Zenins when they meet).
Also I can't imagine what sort of huge scandal that was. I think several elders resided that day, because stress was literally shaving their lifespans.
Aaaah thank you for the lovely art! I love how you can see Toji's expression change between the panels haha.
This incident is something that the Zenin Clan collectively just Does Not Speak Of, except they're always very polite whenever Shiki swings around. Or whenever they encounter Shiki outside the compound. The kids get told something along the lines of, 'That woman is Insane, do not piss her off,' which, if we're being honest, really isn't the best way to go about discouraging a kid's curiosity.
Toji loves telling this story, though. Ogi tries to force him to shut up when he's regaling the twin girls with this shameful tale, and then Toji beats him up. He uses the man as a chair while he finishes telling the girls the story.
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sinkableruby · 8 months
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the shiori ED in owarimonogatari ge kills me, but theres a very specific part of it that really gets my attention
right before the first verse there's a little flash in this box that shows an object relating to the arc character
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its interesting to see the items for each of them. mayoi's bag is there, and the first thing you notice is that she's not. her bag feels almost synonymous with her, so it almost gives the impression she's left it behind, possibly for a new stage in her life (as it were). hitagi's apartment building is shown, and what i think might be araragi's house next to it. but they're so small that they look like models more than anything, which i feel relates to how these homes are things that are precious to her, they are things she wants to protect. maybe theres something to be said about the home as it relates to family too, and family being very much a big thing to her arc. and maybe theres something to be said about mayoi's thing being "something to protect" too
whats the object in ougi dark, then?
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oh. hi ougi
guys im so not normal about this. putting ougi in the same room where the other two had objects that were important/synonymous with them. its because ougi darks ED is for ougi BUT its also for araragi (and shinobu, its about all 3 of them), so its araragis "thing to protect/that is important to/synonymous with him."
but also like. this is also like the only time in the show that we see ougi in any state even approaching nudity, and not just that, ougi is actually naked here (except for the sleeves). and that coupled with the kind of huddled pose really makes this feel like a very vulnerable moment, and a very very significant thing. its saying many things at once. it's saying conception, it's showing you the big bad but not so big and not so bad, its showing you the weakness in a character who has rarely shown anything like vulnerability or weakness, who is still haunting araragi (see the sleeves and the like "gonna get you" hands lol) to the bitter end.
and like if you look closely you can see a little smile which is standard for ougi but like. the hollowed eyes (more ghastly now when theyre white). the inward hunch. the lack of clothes besides the sleeves, that are stylized to look jagged like claws. this is a creature born with a purpose, a creature born to hurt. but this is also obviously a creature who is alone and feeble and Should Be Helped Not Killed for fucks sake lol.
and not just a creature but a person! ougi is armored in layers of separating clothes all the time but this shot is kind of groundbreaking bc it showing that like. she is really just like anyone else. the fronting is very much a front. she, the fake, has Substance. there's a very real person underneath those big sleeves.
and also since the shot is really only for half a second, ougi fades away very quickly. its very much a blink and youll miss it. but that fading away really feels like a flash of vulnerability before she fades away Forever. as in, it's a parallel to her almost final moments. but the fading away in particular feels ghost-ish. not to mention later in the ED shes even wearing like a ghost outfit.
and. god. if that isn't just.
idk. something about. being alive but not really. being a ghost. not long for this world and resigned to it. being so resigned to it you wear it and use that to represent yourself. making it a part of you. and then later being given a life. becoming able to live. idk yk. idk its just , yk its just ,
#and that could go for the others too#mayoi hitagi araragi shinobu#it could be all of them#being resigned to death. being given a life#learning how to live#(and in fact it IS about araragi here.)#(by saving a resigned-to-her-what-she-thinks-of-as-fate hes also saving the part of himself that believes he must die)#(its on both a literal and thematic level its all tied together nicely)#monogatari#oshino ougi#senjougahara hitagi#hachikuji mayoi#ougiposting#owarimonogatari ge#ill talk more about this ed later but this part is so stand out to me#like i understand intellectually but i dont understand the feeling of being extremely cautious/terrified of ougi as a viewer#ougi is posed as “the main villain” but is Not Actually So#thats a framing from gaen to make araragi more likely to kill her#“the enemy” she says#ougi is just ougi#a naked ghost hunched into themself. a vulnerable creature. a person#like idk how you could listen to dark cherry mystery and think ougi should have died in ougi dark (REAL THING PEOPLE THINK)#like: “i'll pick up the possible futures we could have had and chase after you!”?#thats not the words of a black and white villain#ougi is trying so so so hard and desperately wanting to do something meaningful with araragi and more people should recognize it#and really theyre so consistently thoughtful and philosophical like. the impression you get is not that theyre always trying to hurt ppl#the impression is that theyre trying to . Think. to develop ideas and reach the right conclusion
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valhallakonbi · 3 months
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also what do you think of the Musibi era of the series and what it did for each character
like i said in a previous ask, i did not care for the newly introduced characters but i was very fond of getting to see everyone's development. tsubasa's was the most jarring by far. koyomi's was hilarious.
suruga's and sodachi's made a lot of sense which was delightful, hitagi's i don't really care about although it's nice to think of what she looks like now. my only complain (summoning @sinkableruby) is i do not like that *kim kitsuragi voice* Ougi Is Still In The School. i probably wouldn't have minded as much if it was made clearer what her relationships with the others are in the future (she's still in touch with suruga according to ONE LINE... maybe nadeko too but we might as well never know!)
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ougi... 🍆?
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hellsvestibule · 2 years
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There are monogatari characters who are hard hitting and make me cry and are my favs because they earned it by having a good character and in some capacity Ougi is this but in many capacities, it’s just cuz Oshino Ougi is Oshino Ougi
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penultimate-step · 24 days
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Currently thinking about how Owari 3 parallels it's climax with this earlier blink-and-you'll-miss-it humor scene where Koyomi jokes about how ruthless his little sister is. The idea that once something is named, it has permanency in your life and cannot be casually thrown away, is actually how the very rules of the monogatari universe work, and what is enforced by the darkness.
Gaen's master plan to deal with Ougi is phrased by her and Ougi both as "revealing the truth," and analogized revealing the true identity of the culprit in the climax of a mystery novel, but what it comes down to, rather than revealing identity, is denying Ougi an identity entirely. Owari 1 opens with the line "Ougi Oshino is Ougi Oshino," and goes on to talk about how she is so wholly herself, and so strongly self-defined in her own self and personality - but by Owari 3 we know she gave herself that name, that her sense of self and her personal traits are all she has. And she needs to hold onto that concrete sense of identity in order to exist in this world. That's why Gaen's plan feels so shocking - to say "she is not, and has never been, Ougi Oshino, and there is no such person" - this contrasts so heavily against the defined, real, Ougi we have seen across the whole Owari trilogy. That this is all that is needed for the universe to see her as an error to be erased, rather than recognizing her as a person, feels like it is the universe who has made a mistake.
So Koyomi's choice at the end of the novel really does come down to the same thing Tsukihi talks about with the the Yotsugi "doll" - what will you do when your sympathy runs out? Maybe, if she had no name, he could have thrown her away without hesitation. But she has a name, and feelings, and so he thinks of her as a person, and can't bear to do it. Even if, from Gaen's coldly logical perspective, it is "time to throw her away" - time for Koyomi to grow up, time to move on and discard what is, to him, feelings of loathing and isolation, time to deal with the threat. But he doesn't want to do that - and in the end, instead of Gaen's plan to strip Ougi of her identity, Meme, Koyomi, and Ougi herself are able to make that identity, that name, truly hers, so that even the universe recognizes that she can't be thrown away that easily.
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