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tbmc-education · 15 days

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Things that have Helped our Programming Long Term

Obvious disclaimer that these are things that have worked for us and may not work for every system. We are in therapy with a specialist who deems all of this safe for us, take your own safety into account before trying any of these.

1. Respecting the boundaries and limits of other parts. This is the biggest one because a lot of our parts have been through a lot of trauma around disclosing what happened to us and respecting what those alters are/aren't ready to share has helped us not experience silence, spin and other punishment programs nearly as much as we did in the past. We also respect what our higher ups and other trauma recreating parts are/aren't ready to stop doing. Yes, this means a lot of trauma is still happening internally but forcing those parts to stop will only cause problems, this brings me onto my next point.

2. Finding ways for parts with harmful urges a safe outlet for those. A lot of our parts who recreate trauma were forced to perpetrate and have those urges towards others, letting them do so internally avoids potential harm to others while we work on deprogramming. They also have their own blogs and spaces to complete unmask where they will not be judged when they talk about their urges. This includes parts with paraphilias who are allowed to talk about their urges however ours do so privately to avoid triggering any other survivors.

3. We don't expect parts to deprogram. This may sound counter productive but a lot of our parts have been forced to do things they didn't want to their whole life, we do not want to add to that. Processing their trauma and deprogramming or even communicating with us is their choice and we have no expections for anyone to change even if they choose to front in therapy and/or communicate with us. What deprogramming looks for each part will be different and they get to choose what that looks like for them.

4. Changing the language we use to refer to each other. We went from using the body to our body and the system to our system, that deepens our connection because we are united and it is our life, our body and our brain. We also don't use any demonising language: no alters are harmful, they have harmful urges. No alters are perpetrators, they are keeping us safe by recreating our trauma, etc.

5. Encouraging some seperation. This one can be harmful but we've found a lot of our alters with subsystems are helped by separating specific parts/groups of parts. For example alter A is a subsystem and within alter A there is Ab and Ac , Ac introjects a character from a media we enjoy and becomes a seperate alter from A but they still have high integration. We find encouraging this can help us process trauma better because our subsystems tend to be highly traumatised to the point they get very muddled and confused.

6. A lot of visualising. From comforting other parts to creating a whole safe area in our innerworld that has set rules and protections for the safety and comfort of everyone in there. We frequently add things to it that would aid parts such as AAC devices, sensory rooms, specific clothes, etc. We can visualise taking apart certain structures once we process the trauma that caused them or even add things to make them more comfortable and less scary before we process the trauma fully.

#programming #deprogramming #hcdid #ramcoa #tbmc #trauma based mind control #hc did

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Hi! I am so sorry if this is a string of strange questions, but I wanted to see if anyone could answer and haven’t had any luck so far!

Is it possible for a tbmc/ramcoa survivor to not know their cues/triggers for programs? Is there any way to, safely, find these out alone if therapy is a hard option?

Is there any specific way to tell if you have a script? We have a suspicion we might have one regarding things we’ve grown up on (such as The Wizard of Oz and being heavily connected to Dorothy, and Alice in Wonderland, being heavily connected to Alice in movies/books).

Sorry if these are weird questions!

Hello! Not strange questions at all actually, I see them very often. Unfortunately I don't answer questions about scripts but I can help you with your other question.

It's very possible not to know triggers, in fact it's probably more common not to know them because of how amnesia works. As for figuring them out outside of therapy I urge you to be very careful as you can easily trigger the wrong thing however there are alters inside of you who know them and it's a matter of finding them and building trust and communication between you. Usually these alters are heavily guarded and/or higher ups so building that trust and communication can be very difficult. Best of luck with this anon.

#programming #hcdid #ramcoa #tbmc #ask

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Could you talk about the involvement of introjects in programmed systems?

Of course!

Forced introjection is forcing a system to split an alter who is an introject or for an existing alter to become an introject. In programming this is done through hypnosis and deception to convince the part that they literally are whatever the perpetrators want them to be.

This can also be done in lesser extents where someone splits an introject as a result of being pressured by an abusive partner which is something a lot of systems have experienced but this would not be a form of programming.

The most commonly discussed introjects are those of perpetrators. These can occur in organic systems but in programmed systems they are specifically programmed in in order for the perpetrators to have more control over the system. They are typically higher ranking and interal handlers/programmers but not always. I've also seen it common for there to be several introjects of the same perpetrator especially in larger systems.

Scripted introjects are also commonly discussed although scripts themselves are not as common as people make them out to be. In short, scripts are media that are used to create the base of the system such as quotes from the media are used as cues and scripted introjects heavily follow their source and recreate ways it was used to hurt them internally.

Other types of introjects would be inanimate objects such as books, computers or other electronics, objects used for torture, etc.

Less commonly I've heard of systems being forced to introject specific fictional characters outside of scripts to satisfy the fantasies of perpetrators. These introjects were specifically programmed to be that introject which makes them different from the next type.

Alters, specifically fragments, who have been programmed taking on the identity of an outside source is something I see a lot even in my own system. There alters did not form as introjects nor did perpetrators influence their introjection however I've found these introjects tend to introject sources that are similar to their trauma.

I say this in every post but this is not an exhaustive list, this is just my knowledge on the topic.

#introjects #programming #ramcoa #tbmc #hcdid #mind control #trauma based mind control

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tbmc-education · 21 days

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It appears my ex who chose to abuse children over getting on a flight to freedom (airport staff were actively helping her get on her flight and she had a detailed plan made by 3 survivors including myself on what to do including all 3 of us being by her side through the whole thing) follows this account so hello! I hope your family who are more important than telling the person who you supposedly loved that you're sorry for fucking them over so badly (she had to be told to apologise to me at all) are just as miserable as you deserve to be. <3

#this is oversharing definitely #but this ex made me attempt and go into a severe depressive episode #so its my right to expose them #ramcoa #hcdid

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I've heard of programmed alters are meant to help hide the system by covering up time losses and such. Do have any examples of ways that can present? Can it show up in the form of false memories?

This can show up in many shows ways!

By false memories I'm assuming you could be referring to screen memories, which are memories that hides, or screens, another memory. RA Info has a short bit about screen memories.

Alters could give suggestions of what happened during memory blanks which the host would then fill in the blanks for. Less intensive than a screen memory which typically involve outside perpetrators.

I've also heard of hosts being placed in areas of the innerworld which are made to simulate their life and "live" there while programming is taking place.

Alters could also join up memories such as going to bed or for a nap and waking up several days later. Often times this mixes with the next point to create undetectable amnesia for the victim.

Amnesia for amnesia is not programming specific and many organic systems experience it as well. Perpetrators would take advantage of this in various ways such as gaslighting and invalidating the victim which only encourages the amnesia.

Please note this is not an exhaustive list, I'm sure there are many other ways amnesia is covered up.

#programming #tbmc #ramcoa #screen memory #hcdid

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What does having a programmer alter look like? Do their personal likes and dislikes effect how they preform their programming? Do they make new alters to program/with programs?

Programmer parts tend to be higher ranking but depending on the structure they definitely don't have to be. They follow perpetrator rules and enforce them by punishing those who go against their programming. They are heavily traumatised just like any other programmed part even if they believe they enjoy what they're doing because they have been deceived by perpetrators and/or enjoy it out of necessity because it is what kept you safest. As far as I'm aware likes/dislikes don't typically affect how they perform their programming.

They are not able to create new programs, only enforce what is already there. I'm unsure of whether they can split new alters or not because internal chaos can cause splits but it's not always guaranteed. Their ability to program new splits / parts who were not programmed by perpetrators is questionable as well, I haven't found an offical source on that but from experience it usually does not work.

#questions #programming #programmers #ramcoa #tbmc

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Do programmed parts possibly take on identities later in life? Like, a programmed part suddenly seeming to be an introject?

From my own experience and what I've seen from others , this definitely can happen and I call these parts partial introjects. I'd say it's more common for programmed fragments to do that rather than full programmed alters but because I've never read anything about this this is just me speculating.

#programming #questions #introjects #ramcoa #tbmc

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oh great, a whole new blog dedicated to spreading "accurate and correct" info on ramcoa whos literally just some rando on tumblr. really needed another one of those.

Yes and I hope people take my information critically. Like I made a whole post about reading resources critically which includes my own content, plus I always welcome any criticism on my posts like with the last anon who made me aware of Survivorship's illuminati belief and to add a warning to my Becoming Yourself post.

#chatter

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I don't really care who reported her, I care more that the report concerned her licensing board and it was never really resolved because she retired. I'll link her licensing board's decision here so people can form their own opinions: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdLwonoryRGG2Fx6CouI00-inSj8fHY_/view I would also be careful using information from ritualabuse.us because the website heavily promotes Illuminati conspiracy stuff, you just just search Illuminati on the website and read the articles that come up. Also while we're on the topic, Survivorship has similar but lesser problems, just search Illuminati on their website. I'm glad you're aware of the issues with Miller, I was concerned because you put warnings on other conspiracy sources but never added any warnings about Alison Miller and reccomended her without any criticism. People won't know to read critically if you endorse the book uncritically. I do get frustrated when a book endorsing an antisemitic conspiracy theory that uses dubiously reliable sources it treated as the holy bible in RAMCOA spaces. I get frustrated some times because people would rather compromise with antisemitism then try and find more reliable sources. This is not about you, I'm just explaining my thought process and why I can come on pretty strong when talking about Miller. Thanks for hearing me out.

She addressed the allegations in her letter which I linked in my last response which people should read alongside the board decision and to make it easier for anyone reading I've linked the board response and Alison's response.

I do think it's extremely important to acknowledge where the allegations came from because Grey Faction has a history of harassing professionals. I do agree that Alison Miller is not 100% reliable, I don't think anyone is especially in terms of the current RAMCOA reseach which is unfortunately littered with conspiracy theory and people silencing survivors. I sincerely hope people read things critically whether or not I specifically mention to. I'm chronically ill so I don't go through every single website but thanks for letting me know I'll edit things as needed!

To make it clear, there are no other resources that do what Becoming Yourself does. It's the sad reality that RAMCOA has not been studied publicly and much of the information we have comes from not 100% reliable sources. I do understand your frustration and hope in the future we are able to have proper resources that don't require us to compromise.

#chatter #resources #alison miller

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You do realize Alison Miller believes in the Illuminati, right? She cites Svali as an "ex-Illuminati programmer" in Healing the Unimaginable and uses information from Svali to describe shell alters. Her own former patient Wendy Hoffman writes books about her experience as an "Illuminati mind control slave," which Miller has both helped her write and promoted. Miller also had a complaint filed against her to her licensing board (alledging she spreads conspiracy theories, abused a patient, and was practicing while being registered as a non-practicing psychologist) and conveniently retired before the licensing board got a chance to go through with their investigation. By your own standards Miller isn't a reliable source, so it's shocking so much of your info comes from her book.

Hi anon! I'm aware of all of this and still choose to use her as a source because I have yet to find a book as good as Becoming Yourself. It's an invaluable resource in my opinion because of how few things are made specifically for survivors. I encourage people to read it themselves and make their own opinion. Reading sources critically doesn't mean throwing them all away because of some information being unreliable, it means making your own opinion while taking in all the information you have available on the source. My opinion is that while some parts of her information are not 100% reliable, Becoming Yourself has so much information especially for survivors unable to see a professional that I feel it's more beneficial to share it than to warn people again it.

Also she retired because she's old, not because she had an allegation which was made by a group who do not believe in RAMCOA as a whole and their belief of DID as a valid disorder is questionable at best. You can find her response to the allegations made against here right here. You can also find information about Grey Faction right here.

#chatter #resource #alison miller #grey faction

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What Actually is Programming?

Disclaimer: While programming does not always result in the formation of a system, I will be focusing this post on that as it is what I have most information about.

As stated in my 'Basics of Trauma Based Mind Control' post programming is the process of teaching a person unquestioned obedience with the intention of fragmenting the mind and creating dissociative amnesia/barriers between the parts.

But what does this actually mean?

In the most basic explanations it is perpetrators putting the victim through various types of torture to break down their ability to cope and have them turn to dissociation which they can then exploit by creating parts- or alters- which respond to specific triggers with doing whatever action the perpetrators wants them to.

The long explanation is much more complex and I will divide it into three main sections.

Number 1; Creating a system

I will not go into the specifics because I do not want that information to fall into the hands of the wrong people. But in order to create a system the victim must be under the age of 6-9 with many groups starting as young as birth or even in utero (note: you cannot develop DID/OSDD-1 in utero but it can increase how long it takes an infant to return to baseline after arousal.)

The trauma the victim undergoes typically attacks every part of their world and is inescapable which makes the victim turn to dissociation. Traumabonds occur here to make the child attached to the primary handler. (Primary handler and primary programmer are not always the same person, I use primary because there is typically more than one involved.) Once dissociative, perpetrators will begin to implement base/alpha programming as well as scripts.

In infancy scripts are simple so the victim can easily understand what they are being told. A script sets the base for the innerworld, alters and programs that will be implemented. Organisation programs are typically related to the base script.

Number 2; Alters and innerworlds

Alters exist as a protective mechanism and perpetrators take advantage of that by creating scenarios where the victim is hurt less if they do what perpetrators want them to. Perpetrators can also create specific scenarios such as treating the victim as an animal and forcing them to believe they are one in order to split an animal alter. Once an alter is split they are then heavily conditioned through more torture, hypnosis and drugs to believe what perpetrators want them to and follow certain behaviours in response to specific stimuli (cues).

Innerworlds are created through various means which for safety I will not list here but they can range from very simple to very complex and are often elaborated more by perpetrators as the victim grows up. Perpetrators will put in various structures to hold parts, memories, reprogram parts through trauma reenactment, hold discarded parts who were not up the perpetrators' standards, etc. Many survivors report having higher ups who flick switches internally to set of programs and those parts may or may not be fully aware of what the switches do, just that they have to flick them whenever a situation occurs.

Perpetrators are able to control the roles of alters, where they live internally, the amount of amnesia between each part/group and when it occurs, types of switches and their frequency, splitting patterns, innerworld structures, subsystems, subgroups, sidesystems, and more. This is not an exhaustive list and you don't need every single part in order to be programmed.

Number 3; Triggers and Cues

Cues can range from being simple sounds to complex situations and phrases. Hand signals, touches, sounds, phrases, smells, shapes, symbols, situations, etc can all be used as cues and there is no one list of them as each group had their own cues and even in the same group they can vary from survivor to survivor.

They are enforced through drugs, hypnosis, torture and conditioning often for many years and in a variety of situations to make responses to them become automatic. Responses to cues can vary from getting a specific part to front to getting into a specific sexual position to triggering dissociation and/or amnesia to attacking someone to internal punishments. Again this not an exhaustive list but more some examples of what cues can do.

Types of Programs

Note: there are many program lists out there but this is based on what I have commonly seen and what I have most information about. This is not an exhaustive list and I may have forgotten some common ones due to my own bad memory.

Alpha or base programming is obedience and loyalty that sets the base for all other programs to go off of. Dissociation and amnesia fall under this as well.

Beta programming is sexual programming. Parts can range from epsilon nonhuman to 'little girl' and they are taught the ways they are supposed to act during sexual abuse including positions, vocalisations and reactions. Alters typically fit a specific fetish or niche that the perpetrators want to gain pleasure and/or profit from.

Callback or chi programming is exactly what it sounds like. Parts are trained to return to perpetrators at certain dates, holidays, when the victim starts therapy, etc in order to keep the programming from being discovered and/or worked through. It heavily ties into reporter programming as well.

Delta programming is aggression or fight programming. Parts are trained to feel little to no emotions and/or attack on command, it is commonly associated with assassin programming however it's also used for snuff flims, 'dog' fights, and protection for the perpetrators.

Denial programming is feeding into the natural denial that comes with DID/OSDD-1 and turning it into an extreme. Denial of the trauma, specific people's involvement and any trauma disorders are very common with this program.

Duality programming is creating two seperate and opposite sides for example light and dark, day and night which usually do not get along in order to keep the system from communicating and working together.

Go insane or crazyland programming is a subset of punishment programming which is meant to make the victim feel like they are 'going insane.' This is done through flashbacks of being drugged, psychosis, high pitched noises in your head and various others things that parts are told to do whenever this program is cued.

Epsilon programming is dehumanisation programming, most commonly associated with animal parts however some people consider clay, angels, demons, dolls, robots, objects etc to fall under this type. It frequently crosses over with other programs for example with beta to create sexual dolls or sex kittens, or with delta to create attack or guard dogs.

Flood programming is the flooding of emotions, memories or sensations to overwhelm specific parts. It is used as both a punishment and therapy interference program. It can cause natural disasters internally however that is not always the case.

Handler programming teaches specific parts to be handlers be that internal or external. These parts are often responsible for triggering specific programs internally and can be higher up on the hierachy. It is important to remember these parts are not bad and deserve compassion just like every other part.

Hierarchical programming aims to set a strict hierachy internally typically with backups to prevent the programming from breaking down for as long as possible. This can be done by perpetrators assigning parts a place in the hierachy or having parts 'earn' those roles through more torture. The second type typically involves programs such as jewel/gem, metals, royalty etc where parts 'earn' the next rank.

Narco programming is sleep programming where parts will fall asleep on command, typically this is achieved through drugs and sleep deprivation which then cause body flashbacks to put the person to sleep.

Omega programming is suicide and self harm programming. It is a type of punishment program and can involves both successful suicide and intentionally failed suicide which are used as a warning. Self harm is used in similar ways and parts are taught to cut in specific places and patterns.

Organisational programming cover a very wide range of programs that are used to sort parts and make it easier for the perpetrators to keep track of. It frequently overlaps with hierarchical programming however that it isn't always the case. Colour, number, flower, play card programs are exmaples of organisational programming that may or may not also be hierarchical.

Programmer programming is technically a type of delta programming that teaches a part to become a programmer be that internal or external. They are responsible for reprogramming parts internally and are often higher up in the hierachy. They are not bad and deserve the same compassion as all other parts.

Punishment programming cover a wide range of programs such as omega, spin, scramble, go insane and many more. Every programmed system will have at least one in order to protect perpetrators and stop any disclosures of the abuse.

Scramble programming is a type of punishment programming where words and/or thoughts become scrambled which makes speaking and/or thinking very difficult. It is commonly used a therapy interference program alongside being a punishment program. Writing backwards, writing/saying the opposite of wha you mean, etc are all a type of scramble programming.

Shell programming creates a specific front part that other parts front through. They have little to no personality and some may not be sentient at all. Also referred as a default part although that term is not programming specific whereas shell is. These parts exist to keep the system from being detected from both insiders and outsiders, they link up memories for the day-to-day parts to ensure they don't realise they are losing time and frequently numb them to any pain that the body is in.

Silence programming causes the loss of the ability to speak which is useful to perpetrators as a therapy interference program and also as a punishment program.

Spin programming causes the sensation of spinning which can some with dizziness, disorientation and/or nausea. It can spread flashbacks or emotions throughout various parts. Can be both a punishment and/or therapy interference program.

Reporter programming ties heavily with callback programming. Parts are taught to report every life change, move, internal activity, etc to perpetrators even when the victim is no longer physically with the perpetrators to ensure they always know what the victim is up to and make sure programming is not breaking down.

Therapy interference programming is a wide range of programs that occur to make therapy more difficult for the victim and therefore stop the programming from being discovered and worked on. These frequently overlap with punishment programs such as spin, go insane, and flood.

Theta programming is a fairly recent term for religious programming. It's a very broad label covering everything from parts who believe themselves to be God or Satan to parts who believe they are meant to be a sacrifice or carry the next coming of Christ. This is not an exhaustive list and I couldn't possibly fit all experiences of religious programming into one tumblr post.

An important thing to keep in mind is that programming will be unique to the victim and no one can tell you whether or not something is a program. There is also a lot more programs that I have listed here like I mentioned above however I heavily discourage the public use of specific programs because they can very easily be taken advantage of.

Also remember that every part is heavily traumatised and exists for survival. There is no such thing as a bad part because they all exist for a reason even if they have maladaptive coping skills and are programmed to be destructive, patience and compassion is necessary for those parts to recover and recovery for them is very much possible.

Dangers

Ideally everyone would be able to deprogram with a safe professional who is trained in programming however that is not always the case. While you cannot process trauma without a therapist there are several ways for you to slowly begin deprogramming as stated in Allison Miller's Becoming Yourself. However there are still many dangers such as omega and callback programs being triggered which can result in death or returning to your group assuming you left in the first place because many victims don't realise they are still in contact with their groups.

Another danger is consuming information aimed at therapists such as Allison Miller's other book and a whole variety of resources that frequently go around RAMCOA spaces. These books go into far too many details and not only run the risk of triggering programs that could potentially kill victims of programming but also run the risk of heavily retraumatising victims. Suvivors of other types of abuse could also be traumatised by reading such detailed accounts of abuse. It is dangerous to be reading professional resources without a therapist and/or without being in recovery long enough to where your window of tolerance is much wider.

Online spaces are full of misinformation ontop of being very anti recovery. They encourage the use of very specific program names publicly and have roles for those as well as scripts which I shouldn't have to explain how dangerous that is. The more specific the program the easier it will be for bad people to figure out cues and harm you. Remember that safety as a programming survivor is extremely important as groups can and do target people online. Be very mindful of the information you share online about your system and trauma especially if you are minor and/or not in therapy with a strong support system.

Frequently Asked Questions

- Why do people program?

The main reason is power and control. Perpetrators have near total control over their victim and their mind which in their eyes is also a way to never get exposed because of the dissociative barriers which is not always actually the case.

Perpetrators also use programming in order to exploit their victims through human trafficking, drug trafficking, military work, furthering their cult's agenda, teaching them to program so they can continue to work for the group, etc.

- Is programming always a type of organised abuse?

Yes, in order for programming to be successful there needs to be several people in order to reinforce the programming and create the systematic abuse and torture that is needed in order to program someone.

Parents are not always involved however DID/OSDD-1 require a disorganised attachment style which comes from caregivers who are not intune with the child's needs including dismissing any disclosures or signs of abuse.

- Can programming be unintentional?

No, because of the systematic abuse and torture that is required for programming it will always be intentional. However perpetrators may not fully understand the concept of DID/OSDD-1 which can show up in various ways.

- Can programming happen online?

No, programming require near constant access to the victim as well as enough trauma to make the victim believe they will die which is not possible online. You can have preexisting programming be cued online as well as be conditoned online but you cannot be programmed solely online.

- Can programming happen later in life?

Yes, however it will not create a system and if the victim is already a system then the perpetrators will not have the same level of control as they would if they created a system for example they would not be able to control amnesia or switches between pre existing parts or change the splitting patterns.

- What do programs feel like?

In my experience, it feels like I am going into a trance. I only have one thing on my mind and I am heavily depersonalised almost watching myself from a distance. I have little to no control over what I am doing and afterwards I am disoriented and confused as to what happened.

#hc did #hcdid #ramcoa #mind control #organised abuse #tbmc #trauma based mind control #programming

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coping with programs -- pt. 4

Coping with Epsilon programming.

Information in this post may also be helpful to those who experienced extreme dehumanization from their caregivers as a child outside of organized abuse settings.

"How to be human"

Something that I and a lot of other survivors struggle with with Epsilon programming is parts that don't know how to be human, don't believe they're actually human, or struggle to behave normally because of their conditioned behaviour to act like an animal.

Having to act human can sometimes make the parts more upset than it will help them, so if, and when, possible, give them the space to just do what they want to privately and comfortably.

I've heard from some people that doing art therapy for these parts has also been very beneficial for them, because these parts don't feel forced to speak when they aren't comfortable doing so, allowing them to express themselves without making themselves uncomfortable at the same time.

For those who have animal-like traits because of their dehumanization, but were not intended to fully behave like animals, sometimes there's a weird back and forth between feeling human and feeling animal. For these parts, being able to find their balance between what feels the most comfortable for them might be the first step in recovering and moving forward from being "part animal".

Many Epsilon parts were also forced to behave in animalistic ways during forced perpetration situations, making them feel as though they are a predator and are unsafe for others to be around, whether that be real animals or other people. Carefully demonstrating that this is not true and they are capable of changing, with the help of a therapist and other support system people, can really be beneficial. Re-learning how to care for a pet with the help of another person, learning how to appropriately interact with other people, other people letting them know that they trust them and don't believe they're going to hurt them, and other things can be some great examples of how these parts can move forward.

It can be really hard to figure out what the goal of recovery is for some Epsilon parts when they can't, or won't, communicate with you, leaving a weird gap. Trying to close that gap can sometimes require you, or other normal parts/more stable parts, to venture out of your own comfort zone to allow those parts to understand you're trying to help them.

#deprogramming #reblog #epsilon

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dissecting legion's dumbass alpha to omega document.

this is going to pain me. i'll color all of the starts of the next program evaluation with a different color to show what one i'm talking about now.

First problem: "This post delineates types of programming [TBMC]" -- not all TBMC is programming like is being talked about in this document and it's completely wrong to claim or insinuate it is.

Alpha explanation is like mostly fine in that it explains what it is as a foundational program. I don't know why it was necessary to include the part about the brain-chemical process because this happens in any situation where an individual is trauma responding for long periods of time. The thing about cardiac arrest and going into shock is certainly interesting and it would be real fucking cool if they would cite the studies that influenced adding this to the document, but of course they wouldn't cite their sources in text.

Annoys me that they say Beta is the "most common" after alpha because....not necessarily?? There's not studies on this, so it's a little weird to make that claim. Wish specification of non-contact SA would have been included in explaining reinforcement of the program because I don't know what that insinuates.

Literally have never heard of Gamma being divided into two separate categories until this document. Gamma, the entire time I've been in the RAMCOA community, has been used to refer to loyalty programs to the group. What's described as "personal gamma" is called trauma-bonding. All programmers and handlers do this...because it creates trust from the victim to the abusers and allows them to manipulate their victims.

Delta isn't as bad as I thought it would be, to be honest. I'm glad it doesn't go into more detail, but I don't like how it directs "can become abusers" only onto the Delta instance because a lot of the time loyalty programs can also begin to integrate the idea that the child must rise to become a programmer/handler/higher up in the group as well.

Never heard of Epsilon being used to "instill severe self esteem issues". Again, this has always been used to refer to animalistic dehumanization programming the whole time I've been in the community and beforehand. Since when are witches non-human??? How is that Epsilon programming? I wouldn't really call spiritual entities a part of Epsilon programming, especially considering the existence of demon, angel, spirit, or other religiously tied parts often relates to.....religious programming which would fall under Theta, not Epsilon. Werewolf definitely still fits into animal stuff though and I guess..vampire? Doll/puppet programming is usually considered a subset of Beta, not Epsilon. Computers usually go with things like internal organization and hierarchial systems..and in turn are an integral part of Alpha similar to the way shells are. I think it's really...strange? that suddenly the community has moved to including all of these in Epsilon when they used to be under other labels.

Before this document, and before that stupid "rare program" document, I only ever heard Zeta referred to as apathy programming, instead of giving it a Greek letter name. Apathy programming also isn't "only" in reference to shit like gore or extreme violence, as it can be used to create apathy from survivors toward other kinds of abuse and situations that aren't necessarily violent.

Eta doesn't need a name of its own, this is literally a part of Alpha because all parts need to believe this in order to stay loyal to the group and not rebel.

Theta is fine until it gets to the bottom where it's literally describing Duality in religious programming. I guess that fits into Theta, but that...has a name that's not Theta.

I had never heard of Iota until this document. It didn't exist as a community term, no one ever talked about anything really related to it. Nothing. Realistically? Iota fits into Alpha in instilling the initial beliefs into the victim.

Kappa was literally never called Kappa and again, hadn't ever heard it called this until this document and still don't hear literally anyone using this term. Most survivors didn't even make up a term for this, they literally just explained what it was and that these parts experienced such severe dissociation from pain that they no longer felt it in many cases.

Never heard anyone call conversion symptoms from the experience of being programmed "Lamda" until this. This also is not something that really needed its own name considering the fact that it can be a part of many, MANY of the other programs that already had Greek letter names.

Silence and scramble literally have never been called Mu. They've always been called...what they are. Silence and scramble. There's not really a reason to change their names. Some people call scramble "go insane" programming, as well, but most just..call it scramble.

Nu has never been called "Nu". It's always just been called insomnia or narco in the instance of being "hypersomnia".

Xi has never been a program name, everyone used to call this flood programming because you'd be flooded with memories, emotions, flashbacks, and other things to make you basically shut down. Spin has never been seen as a "subset" of flood programming, people have always just separated it as another failsafe used because it's not the same as flooding.

Never heard timekeeping called Omicron. Not many people talk about timekeeping programming by timekeeping as a name, but many survivors talk about feeling fear, guilt, or other negative emotions surrounding turning certain ages or creeping closer to dates they were told would be Something.

Never heard Pi referred to as Pi. Again, don't know why this needed a name because this often fits into Alpha or as a "build on" to Alpha for the parts it's relevant to, and again can fit into other programs like Theta where parts believe the abusers are the entity they're intended to worship and can control their experiences and whatnot. And on a less mature note, it's hysterical the idea of calling something as serious as a program "pee".

Denial programming has never been called "Rho", it's always just been called denial. There's literally no reason to give this a separate name. Also don't love how screen memories are lumped into this category as if they don't have a name themselves and aren't a very common phenomenon even outside of programming.

Sigma is literally just fractaline programming rebranded. I wish people would shut the fuck up and let this die. So many people online have also taken to using Sigma to refer to wilderness survival programming as Sigma, so this is really confusing and of course, Legion claims their definition is the correct one.

Tau is not a name that has ever been used, as this is often a part of Gamma, not its own program. Gamma can include peoples' loyalty to the group in fulfilling the roles assigned to them within the larger group.

Why the fuck did they try to start calling Duality "Upsilon" and thought it would catch on???? Duality is literally self explanatory as a name for the most part and Upsilon sounds fucking confusing AND too similar to Epsilon.

Phi, in terms of "high expectations", is typically a continuation of Alpha that some people refer to as prodigy programming and/or academic programming. What they're talking about in the rest of this term is literally just how they form hierarchies. The high expectations is what forms the fucking hierarchies. Which is a part of Alpha?

Chi came to being the name for callback before this post, but most people still just...call it callback because that's self explanatory.

Organizational programming is called organizational programming and is, yet again, self explanatory in its existing name. It did not need a new name. I would cackle at someone if they pronounced "Psi" as "pissy" and were talking about programming, not to mention I'd have no idea what they were talking about. And again: Organizational programming IS A PART OF ALPHA.

Omega is and always has been what refers to suicide, self harm, and self destruct programming, at least since I've been in the community. It's like..mostly fine.

The shit at the bottom is stupid. Never heard someone refer to their programming as "bespoke". Never heard the words "multiprogram" because programs are SUPPOSED to work in tandem...they trigger each other to function...that's how programming works.

Would've been great if they would've cited their sources for each thing and it also just proves that they attributed the names of many of these to the programs rather than just...finding the community terms that already existed for them. The sources themselves seem mostly to be beneficial, so if you're going to use this document, use it for the sources, not for the shit Legion wrote.

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