Iām sure someone else already made this post because there are so many damn edits of this thought. But-
I recently watched The Lion King (INCREDIBLE movie/musical btw) because even though I saw it as a kid like everyone else and their parents in the 90s but I only watched it like three times because my sisters and I were never that into it. I knew the general plot like āOh Simba will be king Mufasa dies Hakuna Matata blah blah blahā but I didnāt really remember the movie.
So Iām watching the movie with my mom and e we get to Can You Feel the Love Tonight and like. Oh my god. It is SO DAMN REYLO CODED.
āSo many things to tell her but how to make her see the truth about my past, impossible sheād turn away from meā
āHe's holding back, he's hiding but what, I can't decide why won't he be the king I know he is?The king I see inside?ā
Does this not sound like them singing about each other?!? Ben really wants Rey to understand why he is the way he turned out but heās scared of losing her and Rey sees the good in him and wants to see that version of himself come out. All of this while they fall deeper in love (mainly TLJ) and overall I think itās one of the most Reylo songs ever like omg-
Not to mention the being part with Timon and Pumbaa totally works with Finn and Poe š
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THANK YOU!!!!! Youāre allowed to dislike Rey but I donāt understand how sheās seen as someone without flaws! Everything thatās pointed out in this post is true! Rey DOES act childish to an extent- I recently noticed that she seems to chew with her mouth open a few times in TFA because no one taught her manners. She also straight up wailed over a man who she knew for about eight hours- when Finn thought Poe died, he was a bit upset but he wasnāt crying hardly. Not to mention, she violently attacks Luke- an old man- when she hears Kylo/Benās side of the story. This girl is incredibly flawed and I love her.
Rey...A Mary Sue?
When it comes to the Star Wars fanbase.....Disney is the maker of many of their own problems. Disney has blown things out of proportion. They've attacked their own fanbase and then hidden behind that very slander to avoid criticism. They haven't honored the very audience they seek to make a lot of money from, not to mention the franchise. They've bounced around between visions trying to please everyone and then pleased no one.
However, the Star Wars fanbase is also to blame for many of their quarrels, grips and dissatisfactions with the franchise. Oh, you don't like the corporatized Disney sequels? Well I remember you didn't like the prequels which George Lucas actually did them. Disney sequels are too comedic? The movies would've been better if there was less humor? Well the prequels were too whiny, political and serious.
It's not enough that Disney films are more diverse, have a female lead and have more females on the production side..... unless those characters are saying, doing and being portrayed exactly how the fanbase would like.......then Disney is still misogynistic and racist.
Carrie Fisher, The Princess, faced sexism, ageism and body shaming from both Disney and the Star Wars fandom prior to returning for The Force Awakens. Since he passing obviously many people would like to forget about this or flat out bury it.
Carrie FisherĀ tells BritishĀ Good HousekeepingĀ that she was pressured to lose more than 35 pounds to reprise Princess Leia inĀ The Force Awakens: āThey donāt want to hire all of me ā only about three-quarters! Nothing changes, itās an appearance-driven thing. Iām in a business where the only thing that matters is weight and appearance."
She first donned that golden slave bikini when she was 27. Thirty years later,Ā Carrie FisherāsĀ back as Leia in āStar Wars,ā but apparently some viewers thought sheād look exactly the same. The 59-year-old actor was the unfortunate recipient of a barrage of hateful tweets from critics who felt the need to tell her sheās aged badly in the past three decades. She Tweeted, "Men don't age better than women, they're just allowed to age." Meanwhile, Harrison Ford looked old and Mark Hamill looked liked a drunk.
All of this is to say the question of whether or nor Rey is a Mary Sue isn't a simple one. While Disney LucasFilm didn't develop the character as well as they could have.... the audience largely had double standards. Rey, as a woman, had more work to do to win over an audience already suspicious of the feminization of Star Wars.
Let's address the criticism
Why does Rey seem so skilled?
Rey works for Unkar Plott scavenging. It would make sense she understands engineering and mechanics. She has to understand how things work, which parts are valuable and understand that about multiple forms of machinery. How does she fly? Just fly, not even combat fly. If in her introduction she was shown to be flying commercially maybe people would've let it go, I'm not sure. Luke and Anakin by contrast turn out to be expert pilots who fight in combat..... no one questioned a thing and one of them is a child. When she initially flies the Falcon she does an alright job and in the three sequels films we never see her fly in combat. Finn never learned how to fly!!!! He famously needed a pilot, yet, got a crash course in The Last Jedi enough to fly at the end against the First Order. She speaks droid, but all our protagonist in Star Wars do. Someone has to be able to understand them.
Rey has no flaws and she's so perfect.
No, actually she's not. Rey is extremely vulnerable, lonely and requires validation. She fears she's gonna be an old woman cleaning gear on Jakku, but she doesn't leave. The only character she really relates and connects to.... is the villain. Yes, she's likable and she's suppose to be because she's our protagonist. Who the hell finds fault with either the character or the production team for trying to make their main character likeable?! Other characters are attracted to her. It's important to note that most force users come off as charismatic, magical and attractive.
Does Rey have a personality?
Yes. Many people get held up on the fact that Rey seems to be bubbly and happy despite growing up in isolation in a tough environment. Initially, with Finn, she comes off pretty hostile and untrusting. It was only when she assumed he was resistance (something safe) and he went along with the assumption that she relaxed a bit. She responded with anger at him just grabbing her hand, but when he showed concern for her then she reciprocated. Neither Finn nor Rey have proper social development which explains why they latch onto one another. Not to mention both are outsiders thrown into pivotal roles without much concept on how to deal with those roles.
Rey is also very childlike. It's something Kylo Ren tries to push her out of. She waits around for her family for years. She licks plates and plays with the resistance helmet. She latches onto people. She latches onto Finn once she trust him. She latches onto Han perceiving him as an ideal father figure. When she forms a connection to Kylo Ren she latches onto him. She's loyal to the people and things she cares about. There were things that could have helped Rey become a fuller developed character. Rey can fight but we never learned WHY she learned how to fight. Has she been stolen from a lot? Has she been attacked? Was she trained? Rey was taken at a young age, what schooling did she receive? Did she just learn trade work? In the novels, her character is obviously developed more, but Lord! People really act like any oversight of character development was a feminist statement about perfection. In reality, it was a film trying to balance multiple characters in a 2.5 hour film.
Rey doesn't have any training and yet is so magical with the Force.
Rey is assisted by The Force. Force users can use the force with very little understanding of it or training. Anakin as a 9 year old is just winging it. So there's that. Now the first time she encounters Kylo Ren, she's terrified and running/shooting for her life. When he force freezes her she's helpless. When he puts her to sleep with the force, she has to be rescued by men.
Now this is the most important. Her bond with Kylo Ren is one of the reasons she's able to access more of and learn about the force. "A Force dyad, also known as a dyad in the Force, wasĀ when two Force-sensitive beings had a unique Force-bondāthat was unbreakableāthat made them one in the Force. The power of a dyad was as strong as life itself, with the individuals forming the dyad sharing a connection that spanned across time and space."
They don't play this up enough in the movies. In the novels it's clear that their minds bridge. She's able to access Kylo's mind from understanding how he accessed her mind. Their bond boost both of their strengths in the force. It's important to note that Rey's abilities actually terrify her.
Rey knows more about the Falcon than Han Solo.
She explained that Unkar Plott installed a compressor which Rey was aware of and both Han and Rey agreed put stress on the hyperdrive. After her assistance bypassing the compressor Han is firming in control of The Falcon.
She beat Kylo Ren at the end of the Force Awakens despite never holding a light saber.
Well, I agree with this one. Kylo Ren wasn't trying to kill her. He was sparring with him and testing her talents. If he wanted to kill her, there was a convenient cliff he could've pushed her over. He wants to train her and he wants her.
Daisy Ridley is a talented and charismatic actress.... she just isn't recognized for it. The fandom looks for flaws, weaknesses and reasons to complain. I don't want to take away anything from the males in Star Wars. I want them to be great. Honestly A Song of Fire and Ice is how I'd like to see more men and women written. Some are good, some are bad, some are great, some are horrific and all are flawed.
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Unpopular opinion: I donāt like Legends tbh. Which is weird because two of my Reylo babies are named after Legends characters but thatās honestly only because I know many love them š idk it just feels a bit basic, not to mention I like the idea of Luke Skywalker not being in a committed relationship. Heās devoted to the Jedi and doesnāt need romance to be happy (no one does tbh. Donāt get me wrong, Iām a hopeless romantic myself who plans on getting married someday, but not everyone wants that and thatās alright)
Like- I feel like most of my Star Wars opinions are unpopular. Like if I got on a Comic Con stage and just said everything Iād get beat up š
Looks like they lost the Star Wars š
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