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spacedean · 8 months

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DEAN WINCHESTER in one random episode per day ‣ 203/327 8.09 CITIZEN FANG

#spnedit #deanedit #dean winchester #deanwinchesteredit #supernatural #supernaturaledit #randomep #8.09 #hands

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mikkaeus · 1 year

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obsessed with wilson's mannerisms

#he is such a baby girl #8.09 #yes it's the asexuality episode and it's SO bad #house md #wilson #house lb

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five-wow · 6 months

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yesterday i was working on a cross stitch project while absently listening to music (in a playlist i made myself, no less) and last night of the world by bruce cockburn started playing, and that was fine, and then it reached the chorus and my head shot up like a rabbit who heard rustling in the bushes:

If this were the last night of the world What would I do? What would I do that was different Unless it was champagne with you?

because. because-

i mean. i mean???

#ignore the terrible awful quality of the screenshot please <3 #the relevant parts are visible. steve and danny dying. champagne #what else would they do!! what else. literally we have a literal episode saying that #h50 #mcdanno #8.09

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scoobydoodean · 5 months

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Re: my additions about Dabb last night. It’s definitely difficult to separate Dabb from Loflin, especially because Loflin leaves almost immediately after separating from Dabb in season 8, and I do think their attitudes when writing shifted and matured over time. But what were their first episodes written separately?

Dabb’s very first solo piece is, perhaps, the only episode that gives Sam a legitimate shred of sympathy in season 8–“Hunteri Heroici”.

The very first thing Loflin does when seperated from Dabb, meanwhile, is pen “Citizen Fang”—an absolutely scathing commentary on Sam’s destructive, seething jealousy.

Then Dabb writes “Trial and Error” which tries also to lend Sam sympathy, and strongly reiterates that Sam actually cares about Dean despite appearances.

Two episodes later in “Remember The Titans”, Loflin has Sam practically gaslighting Dean about the promise from “Trial and Error” never even happening.

Granted—all of this may be more a function of the larger storyboard and Carver—whose seasons reveal a very strong preference for Dean imo.

#8.08 #8.09 #dabb #loflin #dabb disk horse #writer disk horse

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ardentpoop · 4 months

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god how i wish sam reacted this honestly every time dean disrespected him to his face it is INTOXICATING

the impossible bar that dean sets for the people close to him is hilarious actually. in Southern Comfort he says to sam "cas let me down, you've let me down, the only person who hasn't let me down is benny." like yeah, because you haven't known benny long enough yet for him to disappoint you in some way lmao. are you gonna write him off too when that inevitably happens?

#put some respect on your wife's name fucko!!!#spn #liveblog tag #8.09

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charilekellys · 1 year

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IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA 8.09: the gang dines out — 16.01 the gang inflates

#m #watches 16.03........thinks of a set that has nothing to do with it #sorry to be a failure! anyway. i am both charlie and dennis #iasipedit #its always sunny in philadelphia #iasip #charlie x frank #charlie x dennis x frank x mac #8.09 #16.01 #paras #gifs

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dinahlaurellancesource · 1 year

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dinahdrakenet · 1 year

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Dinah Drake/Black Canary ✦ 8.09 “Green Arrow & the Canaries”

#dcedit #femaledaily #femalescharacters #femalegifsource #cwladiesdaily #dcladies #dcmultiverse #arrowedit #tvedit #dctvedit #dinahdrakeedit #dinah drake #black canary #8.09 #season 8 #gifs #*

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lower-the-volume · 6 months

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citizen fang

#dean winchester #spn #supernatural #benny lafitte #Sam Winchester #s08e09 #8.09

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strgtsg1 · 2 years

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Stargate SG-1 | 8.09 “Sacrifices”

#stargateedit #stargate #sg1 #sg1edit #bra'tac #jack o'neill #s8 #8.09 #**mine

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severidekidd · 2 years

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CHICAGO FIRE 8.09 | Best Friend Magic

#chicago fire #chfedit #one chicago #chicagofireedit #onechicagoedit #stellaride #stellarideedit #dailyflicks #tvedit #stella kidd #kelly severide #s8 #8.09 #mine

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aliusfrater · 4 days

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supernatural, citizen fang [8.09]

#sam winchester #dean winchester #s8 #8.09 #itero #sw.gif #dw.gif #rationarium

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foreveryoungadult · 10 years

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Doctor Who S8.E09 “Flatline”

#doctor who #8.09 #peter capaldi #twelfth doctor

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scoobydoodean · 6 months

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omg i just finished your emma vs amy takes and the subsequent discourse about it (which was so refreshing to see btw!! love it when adults can be Adults and argue about the topic without insulting the other person) and I might get fried for this but that incident aside, do you have any other scene/episode in mind where sam reacts the same way or does the same thing?

(im sorry if this isn't your cup of tea for asks! your takes have been Enlightening)

You mean another situation where Sam shoots a person with supernatural abilities who hasn't shed blood and has a sympathetic backstory without giving them a chance? Not as overtly—Benny in season 8's "Citizen Fang" certainly comes to mind, but even Benny, Sam at least made a show of giving a chance by assigning Martin to keep tabs on him and make sure he didn't do anything wrong before trying to kill him. (Though whether there was conscious or subconscious sabotage involved when Sam chose Martin specifically—someone he knew to be mentally unstable—is certainly a good question given Sam had already made death threats about Benny before then.)

The fact that Sam's behavior in 7.13 "Slice Girls" is pretty unique is really what I want to point out about this episode in the first place—that Sam's actions in "Slice Girls" are inconsistent with his previous behavior and future behavior as far as "good" monster episodes. We can turn to examples such as:

1.14 where Sam insists they try and talk Max down instead of killing him, because Max's murders are a result of extensive abuse.

Lenore and her nest in SPN's seminal "monsters can be good" episode (2.03)

Sam thinking Andy is responsible for the killings in 2.05 but still waiting for proof before acting.

2.09 where Sam insists they not kill someone they think might be infected with Croatoan virus before he turns and tries to kill them because that doesn't give him a chance.

Two episodes where Sam faces off against Gordon because Gordon wants to kill him before Sam kills someone (2.10, 3.07)

2.17 where Sam and Dean search for a cure for Madison, who is not aware that she has been killing people.

4.04 Metamorphosis where Sam is the one who takes the initiative to research Rugarus, learns that they can survive without giving into their urges, and insist they go and talk to him about how his body is changing (lol) so he has the chance to fight the urge to kill and eat people.

5.06 where Sam and Dean oppose Cas who wants to kill Jesse, who is a child who is not aware that he has powers and is hurting people.

6.02 where Sam, even soulless, recognizes the innocence of a shifter baby.

Then we have Amy and Emma in 7.03 and 7.13 respectively.

8.04 where the brothers let Kate the Werewolf go because she was turned against her will and killed the man who turned her in self-defense.

8.09 Citizen Fang (already discussed)

I'm getting lazy but then we also have Magda and Jack Kline—both children with powers, one severely abused, the other the son of the devil with uncontrolled explosive powers that could end the world, both of whom Sam attempts to help work with their abilities.

Dean has a more structured series of personal "rules"—a litmus test we see from the very beginning—one Sam often follows as well, but I'm not sure Sam ever really fully grasps that Dean thinks this way.

Has this person hurt or killed anyone?

Was it on purpose or was it outside of their awareness?

If it wasn't on purpose, are they capable of learning to control their urges?

We see this code as early as 1.12 "Faith":

SAM Wait, what the hell are you talking about Dean, we can't kill Roy. DEAN Sam the guys playing God, he's deciding who lives and who dies. That's a monster in my book. SAM No. We're not going to kill a human being Dean. We do that we're no better than he is.

Dean applies the same reasoning in 1.14 with Max:

SAM These visions, this whole time -- I wasn't connecting to the Millers, I was connecting to Max! The thing is I don't get why, man. I guess -- because we're so alike? DEAN What are you talking about. The dude's nothing like you. SAM Well. We both have psychic abilities, we both... DEAN Both what? Sam, Max is a monster, he's already killed two people, now he's gunning for a third.

Despite the exact opposite being the typical fandom perception, early on we learn that Sam tends to define a monster by their features/abilities, while Dean defines a monster by their actions. We see the same with Amy—she is "a monster who killed four people" (7.07) . She isn't a monster because of what she is but because of what she did. This again—is also why Dean doesn't even consider killing her son right after her kid swears to kill him one day. We see Dean, in the rare cases where it comes up, is also perfectly fine with taking out human serial killers they stumble across (ex: Thin Man).

Sam will also kill a human serial killer at times (and murderous witches by 3.09), but he reserves the word "monster" to describe individuals with supernatural features/abilities... and I think the fact that Sam's definition of the term differs from Dean's is something neither brother ever fully realizes about the other, leading at several points to arguments where they are talking past each other and do not understand one another. Sam hears "monster" and thinks "Dean is talking about me", when Dean is operating under a completely different definition of the term that is based on the actions of a person.

When Sam is in a headspace where he is thinking of himself as one of those monsters, he shows increased or lessened sympathy in turns. For example, he assumes Andy's guilt in 2.05 because he is panicked about becoming evil himself and is comparing the two of them (but again—still waits for confirmation) but his sympathy for Max in 1.14 comes from the same comparison with himself. Sam completely misrepresents Amy in 7.03 as an addict who relapsed but more generally is "managing", as a way to compare her with himself... when Amy didn't feed on anyone herself and her actions have absolutely nothing to do with addiction or battling "monstrous urges".

I've been bitching and moaning a lot, but I will reemphasize that there is a more sympathetic reason that Sam shoots Emma—Sam and Dean are both crowding up to the diving board at the deep end of the pool in season 7. Dean's grieving and is drinking extremely heavily to cope and Sam is hallucinating. They are both unraveling at the seams. Neither of them is in a place where they trust the other's judgement because they both know themselves and each other to be unstable. So if we imagine a reality where Sam and Dean give Emma a chance, and it doesn't take, Sam assesses himself and Dean to be in no mental state to cope with a potential surprise attack. It's just that Sam also erroneously compares Amy and Emma when they are not the same, and by doing so, frames Dean wanting to spare Emma but killing Amy as hypocrisy (because they are both "monsters") when Dean's actions are perfectly consistent with his personal ethical code and his definition of a "monster"... and Sam's actions aren't.