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#FUCK volume two and FUCK the duffer brothers
niallhood · 2 years
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Steve nearly convinced himself it couldn’t be that bad when noise erupted from his left, head snapping up to watch a van tearing up the road. Tires squealing, music blaring loud enough to make Steve flinch, the van came to a lurching halt halfway across the empty lot. He knew that van. Everyone in Hawkins High knew that van. And the entire police force, for that matter, considering what its owner got up to in his free time, not that Steve gave much of a shit about that kind of thing.
And there- Steve's gut churned as the mane of curly brown hair emerged from the drivers side, Eddie Munson's own aura of noise filling the space his excessive music had left behind. Steve didn’t understand how one person could make so much of it by just existing , his ringed fingers always tapping against the chain at the hip of his impossibly tight jeans and the loud slapping of his raggedy white (though, white was a bit of a stretch) sneakers down the halls, the pins on his denim vest clinking together as he inevitably made a scene or the never-ending humming when he didn’t. Steve couldn’t stand it.
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make-byler-endgame · 2 years
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Literally all the byler tumblrs could make a better volume two then the duffer brothers. Like honestly-
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bludhavensbirdboy · 2 years
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Don’t hmu just got queerbaited by stranger things.
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fangirlandtheories · 2 years
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I'm sick to my fucking stomach
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moonflowerdamie · 2 years
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ok so i just watched volume 2. gonna tell you guys my thoughts because WHAT THE FUCK.
⚠️STRANGER THINGS V2 SPOILERS!!!!!⚠️
seriously. what. the fuck. did i just watch.
i have so many thoughts about ep 8 and 9 so i’m gonna try and condense them into lil sections for y’all so. here goes.
•brenner’s death•
-we were supposed to find it…sad? the death of the man who kidnapped and abused children for his own gain? yeah, nice fucking try duffers, with the ‘sad emotional music’. honestly i’m glad the fucker’s dead. one of the only good things to come out of vol 2.
•will and mike•
-i now understand why the duffers waited until after pride month to release the new eps because wtf??? they’ve built it up that will’s in love with mike the whole season (the whole damn show) and then he just…doesn’t say anything? sure he had that monologue where we all know he was talking about himself and not el but. he didn’t even come out to mike? or anybody for that matter. sure, the scene with jonathan is undeniable that jonny boy knows and accepts him and it was a really sweet scene, but it felt like a cop out. will didn’t ever actually confirm anything. fucking bullshit. william byers get behind me, i’ll protect you from the duffers this time.
•stancy•
-fuck ME i hated this storyline. i fucking HATED it. i’ve already spoken on here about why steve and nancy should never be romantic again, and the fact that the duffers tried to push that arc was bad enough but. also. did you guys clock how ooc steve was because of it??? like, he just starts spouting shit about wanting six kids and a perfect life to nancy, who just NEARLY DIED, and then does it again in the woods when robin runs off alone—completely ignoring her well-being and safety in favour of trying it on with nancy again. that’s so not the steve we know. the steve we know and love would never let robin run off alone, and he certainly wouldn’t be basically ambushing a girl with his fucking life plans that make no fucking sense. and if that all wasn’t bad enough, THE WHOLE PLOTLINE WAS IRRELEVANT ANYWAY. they don’t get together because nancy’s still with jonathan and it never gets addressed again. fucking idiotic storyline.
•jancy•
-ok so can we all agree that this ship has run its course? like, don’t get me wrong, they’ve been cute the past few seasons, and i wouldn’t hate it if they were endgame, but. come on. jonathan is STILL LYING TO HER about college, their plans clearly don’t align anymore and they just want different things in life. and i get it, it’s cute that the actors are dating in real life, but that shouldn’t be the only thing holding the ship together. i just think the duffers have made it clear throughout the season, then with that ending scene in vol 2 when jon and nancy are repairing hop’s cabin, that these two are going to inevitably part ways.
•jopper•
-one of the saving graces of these eps. they FINALLY kissed and it was sweet and cute and perfectly built up, in my opinion. joyce and hopper stay one of the best ships in the show.
•max•
-is she alive? is she dead? WHO KNOWS???!!? honestly the HORROR the duffers have put me through with her this season. it was fucking brutal having to watch her bones snap like that. i was honestly shaking, like holy shit. and then she died, and then she didn’t? hmm? what did el do that saved her? what consequences will that have??? so many unanswered questions. but, i will say this: sadie sink deserves a fucking emmy.
•ronance/vickie x robin•
-i am so beyond pissed at the duffers brothers for the shit they pulled with robin in these 2 eps. like, vickie’s not in the season except for one two minute scene in ep 1 and then they bring her back for the last ep? and yeah, her and robin could be cute i guess, but it felt so shoehorned in. like they clearly just shoved that scene in at the last minute to fill a diversity quota and makes me fucking ANGRY. the opportunity was there for robin to have a fully fleshed-out, meaningful, poignant romance with nancy. they’ve been together all season, they’ve grown closer, understood each other, looked out for each other. hell, i even thought the duffers might go there with that scene where robin grabs nancy’s hand outside the creel house. but no. because why give us an actually good wlw relationship when you can shove it to the side and give us absolutely crumbs of representation? bullshit.
•eddie’s death•
-tbh i was expecting him to die, and so i wasn’t shocked but. it felt very anticlimactic. like, the whole focus was on him dying a hero—but then he didn’t technically save anyone? he just…died? for seemingly no reason? and yeah, dustin’s reaction BROKE me, but like then nobody else ever mentions it? not even steve, robin or nancy, who have been with him the whole season. it just all felt so rushed. joe quinn, you did a great job man, and you deserved better writing.
•elmax•
-is it just me or did every one of max and el’s scenes together feel very…romantic? like, yeah they’re best friends who haven’t seen each other in a while, but all of their interactions were framed and built up to seem almost like lover’s reuniting? like they’re touching each other’s faces constantly when they first see each other again, max is looking at el’s lips, max’s ‘death’ involved el crying over her just as much as lucas. and when el visited her in the hospital everyone like made way for her as if she’s the most important person to max. am i going crazy here??? someone tell me they get what i’m trying to say. anyway, another saving grace of the season, elmax remains superior.
•the ending•
-i actually think the ending was pretty cool. like it sets up a vastly different, darker and more epic final season. we actually saw the battle with the upside down and vecna having disastrous effects on hawkins. and i thought the return of the mind flayer actually was kinda cool, and the way everything was explained was pretty good. but, after these 2 eps, i’m not sure i trust the duffer brothers with another season. well. we’ll see what happens i guess.
overall, volume 2 was a let-down. ooc characters, messily wrapped up plot lines, shoved in, shitty representation. it all felt rushed and like the duffers kinda gave up halfway through. highlights of the eps include: the jopper kiss, elmax, robin grabbing nancy’s hand when she was scared, hopper beheading a demogorgan, eddie playing guitar, erica kicking that one guy in the balls and natalia dyer, noah schnapp, caleb mclaughlin, millie bobby brown and sadie sink’s acting.
what did you guys think?
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marvelwinchester67 · 2 years
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MAJOR STRANGER THINGS VOLUME 2 SPOILERS BELOW
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Honestly, fuck the duffer brothers. The minute Nancy said she wanted to kill Vecna I knew something would go horribly wrong.
The minute that Eddie cut that damn rope and decided to stay behind I knew something would happen. Yet I held onto the hope that he’d be ok and Dustin would reach him in time.
I’m sorry, but if Steve can survive the demo-bats, why couldn’t Eddie? Why couldn’t he live? What was the fucking point of any of the last two episodes if they were just gonna kill off one of THE BEST characters to be introduced on this god forsaken show? It was supposed to be his year, and instead, he sacrificed himself for no goddamn reason.
Because the whole town still believes him to be a murderer and satanist. The only one who even remotely cares for him (besides Dustin) is his uncle. Who, despite seeing all the hatred for his nephew and the blatant disrespect towards him, still believes him to be alive and innocent, until Dustin tells him what happened (without telling him the real reason he died). He hands him that damn guitar pick necklace and calls Eddie a hero, he tells Wayne that he wished people had gotten to know him the way he did because they would’ve loved him. I know I did. I still do. But here’s why I REFUSE to believe he’s really dead.
1) Dustin still refers to him in the present tense. Instead of saying “He WAS a hero.” He says “He IS a hero” and that could just be nothing, but I’m holding onto the little crumbs that I can.
2) where’s his body? I know for a damn fact that Dustin never would’ve left him behind like that. He cares way to much about people to just blatantly disrespect him like that in the end. Especially after he begged Eddie to stay with him.
3) why is no one else talking about him? He literally died saving their asses, and the ONLY one who mourns him is Dustin. We know that Mike looked up to him, so why didn’t we see Dustin tell him what happened to their friend? Why didn’t we get to see Mike mourn him to? Why didn’t Steve or Robin or hell, even Nancy, say anything about him. They literally just left him there and acted like he wasn’t the reason they’re still alive (partially)
4) it was Nancy’s plan to kill Vecna. It was her idea to use a LITERAL CHILD and Eddie as bait to lure the demo-bats away when she KNEW what they were capable of doing. She only cared about killing Vecna. I mean, they almost killed Steve, but they didn’t because all of them showed up in the nick of time to save him. She should’ve known better than to have only two people be bait for those bats when she also knew what Vecna was capable of. He SHOWED her what he was gonna do, yet she still decided to kill him. And even that didn’t fucking work because he’s still alive.
5) the duffer brothers said that not all of our questions would be answered in this volume, and that we’d have to wait for season 5 to get those answers. BUT, why have Joseph Quinn petition for more scenes with Charlie in season 5? Why bait us into thinking they wouldn’t pull a Bob on us and kill him off? Why create such a lovable character, WHO WASNT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE LOVABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE CAUSE THEY WANTED HIM TO BE SCARY AND MEAN, just for us to get attached to him and be disappointed in the end?
6) if his body was never brought back to Hawkins, if he’s still there, if they just left him there, then maybe, just maybe, a hopper will be pulled and he’ll be revealed to still be alive, albeit severely injured and alone in the upside down.
7) if Max can survive being folded in half by Vecna, ACTUALLY DYING, going blind and being in a coma, then surely Eddie could survive a swarm of demo-bats? Right? I mean, I’d rather him be in a coma than dead, because then at least we’d know he’s still alive.
8) Dustin deserved so much more than having to watch as his newest best friend goes off on his own to be a “hero” when his whole character arc was about him NOT being a hero, just to watch him die in his arms as he begged him to stay alive long enough to get help. But it also begs the question. Why didn’t Dustin signal for help? Why didn’t he radio Steve, Robin and Nancy and tell them what happened and that he needed help immediately? Lucas can beg for Erica to get help for Max, but Dustin can’t beg his friends to do the same either? It’s bullshit. Utter and complete bullshit
9) for it only being two days later, it seems awfully suspicious that Dustin is out helping and volunteering at the school when his friend literally just died in his arms less than 48hrs ago. Now, that could just be because he needs to take his mind off of things. He needs a distraction from the grief so he doesn’t break down and blame himself. Because we all know Dustin, he absolutely would blame himself for what happened in the upside down two days ago. But it still seems a little suspicious that he’s there, runs into Wayne and then tells him his nephew IS a hero and not WAS a hero. Again, it could just be his way of coping, trying to pretend that Eddie’s death wasn’t as traumatic and heartbreaking as it was. But we are talking about the same kid who found a baby demogorgon and tried to raise it as a pet in secret. So it would in no way surprise me if he found a way to hide Eddie away somewhere and try to keep it to himself without telling anyone about it. Remember, eventually his friends did find out that Dart was still with Dustin, and they were mad at him for keeping it when he knew it was a monster (but Eddie’s not a demogorgon so they wouldn’t be mad at him, just confused)
10) which leads me to my final theory and point. Vecna survived in the upside down for years. Yes, he has psychic abilities that are extremely powerful, and yes he was infected by the atmosphere over time, but he still survived it, just with a new look. If Vecna can survive that place, why couldn’t Eddie? We already know he’s pretty decent at hiding, and he’s been taking care of himself for a while now because his uncle is rarely home due to working all the time. So why couldn’t he? If Henry/001 can do it, then it stands to reason that, even though Eddie has no psychic powers, he could still survive. He’s been doing it his whole life. Also, why mention his dad? Why give us any inclination of his home life before Wayne if you were just gonna kill him? Either that’s just lazy writing, or there was a point and we’ll see it in season 5 (which I hope to god it wasn’t just a plot hole to make us even more invested in his character because they already knew what would happen to him and that we’d all be upset we got Eddie and his dad crumbs just for nothing to come of it)
So, all in all, I was excited for no god damn reason, the duffer brothers really hyped up so much just for none of it to happen, I have, and always will be anti-Nancy, the entirety of volume two deserved better than what it got, we, as a fandom, deserved so much more than what we got, and I hope to god that season 5 is entirely different from this. We did not deserve to be introduced to such an amazing and complex character again, only for him to be killed, again. I actually cried when jopper kissed, I’ve been waiting for so long for them to be happy, I started sobbing again when Dustin told Wayne about Eddie, only for more sobbing to ensue when El and Hopper reunited (because I was not about to end that damn catastrophe of a volume without an El and Hopper reunion) I also will always refuse to believe Eddie is dead, because I feel like I’ve actually lost someone important to me in real life. Like, I KNOW emotional damage, but that was on a whole other level. I get attached to characters so easily, and Eddie was one of them. Still is. That soft doe-eyed metal head swooped in, stole my heart, made me fall in love, and then ripped it out slowly and painfully with that scene. I absolutely adore Joseph Quinn, and that’s coming from someone who’d never even heard of him before this season came out. He did an absolutely fantastic job with Eddie freaking Munson and he totally deserves better than the shit ending they gave him. This post ended up being really long, but honestly who cares. I’m so done with shows like this having an interesting plot in the first half and then throwing that entire plot away in the second. It’s shit writing, it’s a shit ending, and I refuse to believe that any of it happened.
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No but the memes stating they get why the duffer brothers didn't release volume two till the pride month is over is so fucking funny to me because we all know of they had released it before along with volume one they would be ripped into shards but now they'll get tortured cause they
1 queer baited us
2 made us wait for this shit
3 made Will suffer so much
4 made Mike say that his life only begun when his best friend went missing and he was happy about it because he found the love of his life *gags and vomits* no because if any of my friends even imply that they like their bf/gf more than their best friend who has stayed with them throughout many shit I'll loose my shit and murder them on the spot. Like Will baby I don't know how you held urself back (from both crying and killing mike)
5 Eddie that's it u don't even need more explanation for this
6 Eleven her character is practically based on her dependence for mike, same with mike too but the fact that mike said that he was scared that he'll loose el if he told her he loved her is bullshit and everyone knows that
7 Everything every single characters development expect the Russian gang everything else was just wrong
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ceo-of-sloppy-men · 2 years
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What if Eddie is a red herring?
Okay, hear me out. I know this sounds crazy at first but it’ll make sense I promise.
ST over uses the sacrificial lamb trope a lot. Barb. Bob. Alexi. Chrissy. It’s a lot. Predictable that someone’s going to be one each season and with season 4 in two volumes it would only make sense to have two.
Right?
Wrong.
See the thing with the others is that (with the exception of Chrissy) they weren’t blatantly screamed to be sacrificial lambs. They had goals and connections to characters, even extremely significant ones (Joyce and Bob). We were made to believe until the very last moment that they were going to survive. Even barb, who, while a little flat as a character, still had depth.
From the moment we were introduced to Eddie it was too blatant that he is doomed. He’s a queer-coded satanist in the middle of the satanic panic whose unliked by everyone and suddenly connected to the suspicious murders. While he has a flare for the dramatics he overdoes it on multiple occasions as if intentionally leading the audience to believe he’s the next to die. He’s just part of the trope. He even outwardly antagonizes his own arcs villain, Jason, at the start of the season in the lunchroom.
The perfect set up for a sacrificial lamb. Too perfect.
It’s too obvious. Like the duffer brothers want us to see him as the next death. The next lamb. He has to be as there’s no way to resolve the mess he’s in… right? He has very little presence despite him being a hit character - take the poster for example.
Consider the following:
Owens associates are in Hawkins conducting an investigation and know that Eddie is definitely connected to the murders yet we never see them actively track him down. Because they know he’s innocent.
What’s going to happen when/if former police chief Jim Hopper suddenly reappears in Hawkins? It’s a long shot but hopper being alive has the potential to save Eddie at least temporarily.
Eddie is a musician. Something none of the others are apart from Robin. Music is very significant to surviving Vecna curse. If their musician - or bard if you will - dies they’re fucked in the final battle. Especially if Vecna destroys Max’s Walkman.
While it might be reaching, he’s too obvious to be a sacrificial lamb (or the writers are just getting lazy at not blatantly foreshadowing his death). But going off the fact we’ve been shook before bu the writers I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Eddie is a red herring for someone else’s death. Someone is going to die, there’s no denying it, but Eddie makes the perfect side track. The perfect distraction to make any death infinitely more powerful - Especially if it’s someone in Hawkins - because “it should have been Eddie”.
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oceanofflavor · 2 years
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do you think they will bring eddie back? that joe actually knows something and thats why he implied between volumes that he'd be back in s5? i'm holding on to hope 🥺
To be honest, I don't know. I’m holding onto hope for my mental well-being, if I’m being honest.
I have a lot of problems with Eddie’s story in Vol. 2 and I’ll get into those soon, I promise, I’m still processing everything.
What I will say now, is that I think killing him was their biggest mistake this season. He had so much more to offer. And I’m convinced they killed him because they're too scared to kill off any of the main cast, which I’m sorry, as much as I love these characters we’ve had since the beginning I find it weird that instead of killing any of them, they bring in new likable characters then kill them instead.
The backlash to his death has been intense, to say the least. And I hope the Duffer Brothers and other writers are paying attention.
I saw someone on Twitter share something about them starting to write Season 5 in August.
So, I think there's hope. The fan theories I’ve seen and the fics I’ve read since Vol. 2 dropped are amazing people are so incredibly creative.
Back to what you said about his comments regarding season 5 in between volumes, I’m sure that was him trying not to spoil what would happen to Eddie in Vol. 2, but again, I have no clue.
If I don't stop now, I’ll keep rambling, but I think anything is possible. Vecna needs a new body, he isn't just going to go away, Ya know?
There was that two day time jump for some fucking reason and I hope that means something instead of it being that they were too lazy to show what happened.
All I’m saying is, that the delusional theories are starting to make sense.
Didn't the Upside Down start bleeding into Hawkins after that time jump?
As far as we know, they left Eddie’s body in the Upside Down. If I’m being honest, I feel like they didn't give us any real closure on Eddie’s death.
Who's to say Vecna didn't possess him so he’d have a new vessel to have the power to make the Upside Down bleed into Hawkins?
Okay, I’m done now, do with this what you will.
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make-byler-endgame · 2 years
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After watching volume two, rewatching the scenes that used to make me jump for joy because of the byler tension, I feel absolutely disgusted. This is honestly so fucking sickening. The duffers did us so dirty man. The queerbait was horrible
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skullitonin · 2 years
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I’m not going to lie, Eddie Munson has been a character a lot of people have found comfort in, including myself. The fact that my theory is still getting peoples hopes up and includes a way to bring back Eddie so it FITS with the story is very telling regarding peoples love for him.
Also, the Duffer brothers cannot write without a team for shit. I’m not saying this because Eddie is not coming back, I’m saying this because they have contradicted themselves over and over and over again regarding what can kill and what can’t and also basically lying about Will’s storyline in volume two.
The Duffer brothers have confirmed that they will not bring Eddie back for season 5. Apparently Joseph Quinn got a text from one of the brothers before Vol2 I believe telling him that they are going to have to prepare for a lot of fans being upset regarding Eddie‘s death. So they knew how much this would hurt everyone.
They knew the impact Eddie had on the fans of the show. They knew that they can make money from hellfire because Eddie was so loved. You can’t say it because hellfire was a group and people bought the merchandise because of the other members. Eddie wore that shirt through the entire season. It was obviously going to be associated with him. To this day it is still borderline impossible to get a legit hellfire shirt.
They’re trying to claim that Eddie’s story is over when I think after Vecna his character is needed more than ever. The coincidences that people have found online match up to well for them to just brush this off. And apparently he will not be pulling a Brenner. You know, the most HATED character that canonically got ripped apart by a demogorgon and came back? Just like Eddie except Eddie won’t be coming back according to the Duffer Brothers.
But I am convinced that if we make enough discourse over Eddie not coming back until they start writing and even after they start writing season five, I think that we have a shot of getting some type of Eddie content. I need everyone to sign this petition hundreds of times if you have to, to try and get Eddie back.
https://www.change.org/p/bring-eddie-munson-back-e79f111d-4756-475f-a1bb-f320f17bb6c3?recruiter=77668631&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition
There have been articles written about this petition which means we are doing something right. Under the petition there is a template that you can fill out to send to your local online news sites to request an article written about Eddie’s come back and the petition it’s self.
EDIT: I have just found out that the stranger things reddit is starting to take down theories about Eddie possibly coming back as Kas the bloody handed.. The official stranger things account is taking down Eddie theories specifically saying that he could come back as Kas the bloody handed. That sounds very fucking suspicious for someone who claims the character is definitely dead
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starry-clown · 2 years
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I want to keep believing in the duffer brothers to give a great story for Will Byers.
I wanted to keep believing…
After processing my thoughts and feelings and thinking over everything I watched in season 4 volume 2.
I wanted to share my thoughts about Will’s character because he is so important to me and I truly believe that their is more to him than just pain and suffering…
I truly wanted to believe that…
Will’s words to Mike as he shows him the painting was a LOVE confession.
Only Will used El’s name to hide behind as he pored his heart and soul to Mike about how he feels about the painting and about Mike.
Will telling Mike that El commissioned the painting by her telling Will what to draw… which I don’t buy at all because in her letter to Mike, she says that she has ZERO idea what Will is painting and that she thinks there is someone that Will likes because he’s been acting strange.
Like a shield. If Will can hide his feelings by hiding behind El, it makes it easier because Will is deathly terrified about losing Mike by just being different (queer)
We as viewers finally see that Will is in love with his childhood best friend Mike.
Which is very important to Mike’s and Will’s relationship. It really shows something so beautiful between them even though Will hid behind El’s name… Will still told Mike how he feels, only without using his name… which I found really upsetting… but I am so proud of Will for opening up to Mike like that (like ripping off a band-aid)
But then I think about the alternative… Like what if Will didn’t mention about El commissioning the painting and didn’t hide behind El’s name? Mike would probably realize that Will really has some deep meaning behind his words. Maybe even show Mike that he loves him…
BUT the writers didn’t want to go that way… no. Instead they made Will’s character HIDE… the writers are trying to keep Will from letting Mike know how HE feels. And it bothers me so much because why?
And then we have that scene where Mike and El are being playful, laughing and looking happy. With the camera zooming in on Will’s face… Will is undoubtedly unhappy seeing the two together… the writers intend to keep on showing you how hurt Will is, which is such a punch in the gut.
The camera then shows Jonathan watching Will and SEEING how Will is literally heart broken by seeing Mike and El together.
Then Jonathan gives his speech to Will about opening up to him… because he knows Will is hurting… he tell’s Will that he can tell him ANYTHING. and Jonathan like a caring brother made it very clear that he would accept and love Will, no matter what! This is also VERY important because it shows us that Will doesn’t think his feelings aren’t important so he cries into Jonathan’s arms while not saying why he’s hurting… It hurts to watch.
Yet the writers intend to make it hurt and have us watch the misery Will is going through…
Now it’s the big battle… Ah yes, the scene that made me cry so fucking much I got a fucking headache.
So Mike tells El he loves her… it’s a powerful scene but something felt off with it, like it felt forced. Like in the heat of the moment kind of thing…
I’m only saying this because it’s Will who pushes Mike to say it…
If it wasn’t for Will… Mike wouldn’t have confessed his supposed love for El…
And because that Will thinks that Mike is in love with El he thinks that it HAS to be Mike to save her. This scene crushed me so much, because it is basically just Will letting go of Mike. By pushing Mike away to go to El. Will is making it easier for himself, but you can tell that it is the hardest thing he had to do… And you can hear it in Will’s voice and see it on his face. That he hated it. This scene showed that Will cares so much for Mike happiness that he’s willing give up his own… which is so fucking sad and I wanted to stop watching right then and there.
Mostly because I felt betrayed by the writers for doing Will’s character so dirty. The writers made Will let go of Mike even after showing us how much Will LOVES him…
To be perfectly honest I wasn’t as upset with Eddie or Max’s outcome as much as I was with what they did to Will’s character this season.
As soon as Mike finished his overhyped monologue I toned out everything else and felt a big wave of depression coming over me. Like what the fuck were the writers even thinking? So all of Mike’s character development tossed away and he’s only just exiting to only be a love interest for El? Is Mike’s character’s only sole purpose to just be a boy who loves his girlfriend and nothing more? And not only that, but the writers had Mike tell El and right in front of Will that meeting her (on the day of Will’s disappearance, the day Will’s life became a living nightmare) Was the best day of Mike’s life?
I hate it. I hate it. I hate it.
I am sick of Will’s character not getting the happiness that he deserves.
They forgot Will’s birthday, Mike didn’t hug Will (who’s his best friend!) at the airport for some reason. Mike was so careless about Will this season. Where the hell was the Mike we had in season 2? Remember that Mike? The one who literally was always there for Will when he was going through hell with the mind flyer.
The very Mike who told Will that meeting him in kindergarten was the best thing he’s ever done…
The same Mike who told Will that he’ll go crazy together with him…
Where was that Mike?
After season 3 we lost that courageous and selfless and honest character.
And y,know what I think? I think the Mike we got in season 4 is hiding. Because finn Wolfhard said Mike is just trying to be normal this season.
Something in Mike’s character is so off this season, and I feel like Mike isn’t being completely honest with himself and it just doesn’t make any sense for his character to only be the sole purpose of selfishly ONLY caring about El.
Did the writers actually think it would be a good idea to have Will be this sad gay boy who suffers and goes through trauma only to have his heart broken by the only person (Mike) in his life who makes him feel like he isn’t a freak?
Do you see what I am saying? Are the writers truly so happy with themselves by doing this to Will’s character? are they truly so proud of themselves for tossing all of Mike’s character development away?
What in gods name did I watch… I’m so lost and sad and mad and hurt.
All I can do is wait for season 5 and hope the writers make it make sense.
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bored-bookworm-2005 · 2 years
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I have a bunch of thoughts. I am so tired but sleep is not an option until I put these thoughts somewhere
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This is not proof read
~ ok like what the fuck is up with the duffer brothers giving us amazing new characters that have so much potential just to kill them off while giving the main cast plot armor
~ I AM IN NO WAY OF COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW OUR MAIN PEOPLE SURVIVED I THANK ALL THE GODS FOR KEEPING THEM SAFE
~ the whole time Eddie was having his little hero moment I was raging because I’m tired of the characters I love trying to be the hero and then dying
~ Eddie deserves so much better.
~ I am a little (a lot) irritated about all the queerbating (is that the proper term for this) im not sure if I’m being over dramatic and making issues out of something that’s not actually a problem but I’m bummed that they hyped up Byler and made Steddie and Ronance so like there and then did nothing with it
~ I was stressing my actual balls off worrying about Steve. Like I was so scared I had to watch the end of the last episode to make sure he was still there (in the process I spoiled Eddie’s death :/)
~ the deaths weren’t giving. The way the duffer brothers and co talked about the deaths coming I expected everyone to die like I was imagining all our favorite characters dropping like flies. Instead a bunch of not exactly liked or well treasured characters died. And the two main important major deaths that happened either a) was unnecessary imo and the was ignored by all but one of the main characters or b) backed out of and brought the character sorta back
~ Steve looked so good in these episodes. Like everyone did but Steve was giving off that mom energy and I was dying and when he was talking about his little nuggets and exploring the country I wanted to like die because that was so cute. It made me particularly happy because I’m like in love with Steve and I’ve always wanted a bunch of kids
~ but can we address how the reason Steve probably wants a bunch of kids is because he has felt so alone his whole life he doesn’t wanna keep feeling like that so he wants to have a big warm happy family
~ the stancy stuff was killing me and not in a good way
~ we finally got some relief for our lack of Jopper
~ I really wish we got more in that Will and Jonathan scene like I genuinely thought he was gonna come out but didn’t flat out happen. I think the duffer brothers and co are allergic to having males (will in particular) admit to being gay
~ max my baby. I was crying when Lucas was holding her and crying and she was like I can’t see or feel anything im scared I don’t wanna die. I thought it was going to cause me to die from heartbreak
~ I really thought Karen Wheeler was gonna have a bigger part in volume 2 and im bummed she didn’t
~ I was getting so mad whenever Jason was on screen. I thought he was gonna be a decent character but this man is crazy and I get where he is coming from but the fact that he was set on the fact that Eddie was guilty and refused to even consider anything else made me mad
~ vecna touching the girls with his ugly slimy hands also made me mad
- #elmax
~ Nancy with that gun oml
~ Steve driving oml
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lmao i am so mad like what was the reason????
(it was kinda cool and i hate how it left off)
I'm pretty sure you're talking about volume 2? I definitely blew through all of the stages of grief and went straight to anger. I don't know why they thought that it would be a good idea to kill him off- especially when there was a very direct path that his character could have traveled to actually have some type of redemption. Granted, it wouldn't have been easy to clear his name; the fucking ground opened up to fire and brimstone and they blamed it on a 20-year-old kid performing satanic rituals- obviously, they aren't very bright in Hawkins, Indiana. But that's the best part, it wouldn't have been easy- it could have been a very complicated and integral part of the next season.
There's only one reason, and that would be that it will further Dustin's storyline (which is seemingly complete currently) in season 5. I would like to believe that other than Wayne Munson, there is someone else that Eddie has in his life; a sister maybe, who is grieving his loss as well. I'd hate to think that he only had the kids in Hellfire, Dustin, and Wayne.
On top of that, Steve, Nancy, and Robin all had to pass Dustin and Eddie on the way out of the Upside Down. You're telling me that in an episode that was two and a half hours long, they couldn't have added a small one-minute scene where they showed them finding Dustin grieving? Did they leave his body there? Did they bury him? I truly don't believe that this is the last time that we will see Eddie- whether it be in flashbacks next season or Vecna taking control of his body (which is a great theory and very plausible). I was honestly halfway hoping that when they got to Hopper's cabin, he'd be there hiding as well, waiting for them.
All of this to say that despite the fact that the goddamn ground opened up, and they lost not one but two party members (Max-ish & Eddie), just two days later everyone was acting like nothing happened. That is the worst part for me. "I wish they would have known him", like fuck that. They COULD HAVE known him, he COULD HAVE led a semi-normal life, but no. He died. For what?
He deserved so much more.
I hope that Joseph Quinn gets all of the offers for all of the movies and TV shows. And I hope that they find a way to bring him back to Stranger Things despite the fact that the Duffer Brothers don't deserve him.
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spahgetti-man · 2 years
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bullshit brothers we did not need to see something we have seen so many times we are tired of being used as pawns for straight relationships its fucked up its gross and on top of it all the fucking queerbaiting i do not Care if this turns into something bigger that makes sense, the queer community deserves a fucking apology for putting us through that, the hope of having representation of real struggles but also characters who are arent the gay stereotypes being gay means the world for us. but also (sorry for the implied heartstopper hate but) also isnt fucking corny?? we just want two badass teenage boys who love each other in a scifi where being gay isnt their only growth, theyre not just the “gay characters” theyre still going to just be mike and will thats all we ever wanted bc thats REAL THATS REAL FOR US, we are TIRED of seeing things we fear going through every day, it eats away at us at a point. queer. people. can. be. happy. stop trying to please homophobes with fake representation only to fucking step on us, do it right or dont do it at all. and dont even get me started on how fucking unnecessary it was to have robin see vickie kiss her ex boyfriend if it in the end was going to mean nothing, it was unnecessary and just fucked with queer people. that never needed to happen. fuck volume 2 and fuck the duffer brothers.
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mlmmetalhead · 2 years
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Guys I'm going to save us all, the only reason I'm studying to become a screenwriter is to fix whatever the fuck the duffer brothers wrote for volume two
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