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machonnes · 1 year
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Interview with the Vampire (2022-) Claudia, born 1903. I drank the water in 1917. I'm thirty six years old.
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raayllum · 10 months
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...? so if we swap out the immortal character for say, I don't know, a 60 yr old, someone older than both Viren and Claudia and maintaining the same power imbalance and you still don't see the difference shipping a 60/unspecified middle aged person versus a 60 yr old/19 (met at 17) yr old then I don't know man - like I get it yada yada it's fiction I don't care for them either but to pretend one isn't more problematic than the other, for like common sense reasoning, is a little silly
I don't know how to tell you this, but age gaps 1) aren't inherently bad and 2) what can make them bad/worrisome is the power imbalance, typically between men in their late 20s and girls in their late teens, that the age gap can bring in terms of maturity, life experience, and manipulation tactics. All things that Aaravos has over both Viren and Claudia somewhat equally. He's been more outright manipulatory towards Claudia, but he also quite literally has Viren's whole ass life in his hands to treat like a toy. So it kinda evens out there, if you ask me
Also will reaffirm in my tags: I grew up reading greek myth. Aaravos is literally thousands of years old, yet appears to be like, maybe in his 30s-40s (it's hard to tell because no visible signs of aging, but he's definitely more adult than young adult leaning). And if you grow up reading greek myth, gods are banging mortals left and right under extremely or outright non con situations (hi Zeus and Apollo in particular). I also read "Wuthering Heights" (one of the most fucked up quasi-half sibling relationships ever) and "Jane Eyre" (18 yr old girl and her 40 yr old employer) while getting my degree in how fiction can, or when it doesn't, influence reality, how views on age gaps and even incest has changed in society and fiction over time (the Victorians idealized a lot of weird stuff but we also get a lot of their moral hangups regarding sex in general).
Aaravos is not like a '60 year old man'. There is no real world equivalent. This shit happens every single time there's a vampire or god or angel or mortal shit (which errs towards teens, bc YA, but is also there in Adult fiction) but like. You think that immortal being is cognizant of a human being 15 vs a human being 30? You think they have any solid comprehension of what that lifespan is like? You think Aaravos gives a shit as to Viren in his 40s (which, how would death aging work anyway?) vs Claudia being basically 20 when Aaravos is thousands of years old?
TLDR; I get that age gaps on a base level can make people uncomfortable, but that sort of reading requires and engages with zero critical thinking skills, because it's the power imbalance that that kind of age gap can help facilitate that's the issue, not solely the age gap itself. Same as to how most toxic/unhealthy relationships, regardless of the ages of people in them, also have power imbalances, because that's what makes it unhealthy. And the unhealthiness of the ship can sometimes be precisely why people like it, even if it isn't my cup of tea, but I don't have to get up on my moral high horse about it
I think it's a little silly to buy into rhetoric that pushes far right conservative moral panics, sorry
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maaarine · 1 year
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kradogsrats · 10 months
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I think might have actually had blonde hair, since we see in the recemt trailer, Viren is where Claudia got her hair colour from.
Even young Viren’s hair is brown, not black. Assuming he’s in his mid-20s, he could easily have been blonde into his early teens.
Soren’s hair is still fair at 18-20, but Soren spends like 80% of his time out in the sun.
Soren’s hair is also a color that suggests it will darken—my hair was about Soren’s coloration as a teenager, in my 30s it’s as dark as young Viren’s.
I will literally die on the hill of blonde Viren.
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blueiight · 1 year
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I don't think any of your other anons have mentioned this yet but if they have correct me! But a really key difference between book and show Lestat is his age not just in pure number [150 vs 30 something when he first meets Louis] but the age when he was turned [~35 vs 21]. Cause show Lestat even as human would've already sown his oats, lived it up and is basically middle aged for 18th century France life expectency before he's even turned. Then on top of that, he's spends another 100 years or so fucking around, going on adventures, trying to find a companion, having failed relationships, dirt napping before he finally meets Louis. Book Lestat's life was very much cut short due to his youth when turned, he goes from a bad relationship with Nicki to a bad relationship with Louis and then spends many decades barely alive and napping. Show Lestat at 35 should've been settled down, married with kids already during his time? [whether he actually did that or not is irrelevant, that's what was normal for men of his age]. Like I think that's why show Lestat is so much more of a patriarch in the show?
I don't know what else they plan to do with this change in the show but its one of the most fundamental changes to his character I'd say!
before i go along id like to correct the rl perception of life expectancy u have. a lot of ppl (not just u!) conflate ‘average life expectancy’ with a vague notion of the ‘average adult life span’. what life expectancies account for is the societal underpinnings in health namely the sheer numbers of maternal, infant and young child mortality due to the sheer risk of pregnancy alone& infectious diseases prior to the advent of germ theory, clean water systems & the widespread use of vaccination/s. chances are, if u lived past the age of say 5-10 and/or survived ur pregnancy, u already beat a number of odds & could very well live to old age [certainly the numbers of ‘respect ur elders’ hierarchies in cultures worldwide support this. but i get ur point& im being the pedantic ass i complain about. adolescence did not exist in les time as we know it so hed be considered a man in his teens-early 20s, and in fact in most of human history ppl got married 20s& above so if book les didnt get hitched idt show les necessarily had to neither? esp cuz hes still the younger of sons.]
i agree! i do think og iwtv lestat was a force of nature & a manic figure, but he was certainly more pitiful than his amc counterpart [in no significant part due to 1976 iwtv lewis narration] and being aged up certainly can play a role into how much of a firmer authority figure he is in this version of the show so soon. i think this change is fascinating, and imo draws both from iwtv/tvl as well as subsequent [consistent beats of, an exploration of] characterization of lestat as the pinnacle of vampirism, the brat vampire prince lording over in later works of the chronicles. hes not only stronger in a patriarchal sense but also in the literal sense of what hes capable of doing as a vampire. much to think of! louis also being an older man [33-34 as opposed to his early 20s] when turned also has sweeping implications for his character, and performatively equalizes their dynamic in the eyes of the viewer. & louis himself in s1 selectively likens himself to both lestat’s equal, yet u have the ‘lover, murderer, maker’ line being repeated & louis saying ‘could the children murder the father?’, likening himself to claudia in that they are both lestat’s children & claudia in the rue royale timeline compares louis to a pitiful housewife or something like that .. not to mention this👇🏾
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[i feel like ive talked about this scene ten times. from claudia being the exact age/close to the age louis himself was here when he was turned, to lestat denying claudia her adulthood , louis selectively playing up her adulthood, and claudia attempting to neutralize this family dynamic & claim her own sense of maturation by making all of them siblings… levan akin ur everything to me 😵‍💫🫣]
i do wonder how nickistat will be adapted for s3 with these age shifts in mind, and what implications that holds for nicki , armand & co.. hell, even gabi. especially gabrielle. [also i time traveled & spayed les he will not have no babies on lou]
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downstairsbar · 1 year
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so in reformation louis got dicked down by his future husband the minute he turned 18, graduates college at 21, gets married to lily at what 22, divorced by 24?, gets married again at 25?, has a kid by 27, and almost divorced again/widowed at 30. swear to jesus elizabeth taylor had a less chaotic personal life than this
my notes say “18/20-21/23 — beard 21-23 — back together 24/26, elope 24/26 after 6 months, adoption 26/28 — 29/31 cheating resumes, 30/32 separation, 31/33 couples counseling” — now 38/40.” so about that but kinda worse than what you expected :( I had to make adopting Claudia be at a reasonable yet in character age while also keeping her within a year of the twins’ age without that meaning that Grace had kids as a teen while still keeping her as the youngest golden child who does everything right plus I knew I wanted Les and Louis to move as fast as they did in canon and also having already faced the consequences for that and also lestat needed to experience (ego) death. I’m not good at math or dates so I really overdid it 😕
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monstersinthecosmos · 2 years
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I'm really curious how the show is going to handle mortal age.
In canon there's sort of a theme that someone's age when they're turned informs their temperament as a vampire and we get the impression that it has to do with your experience of being human. (I think the quality of your human life also informs this but don't let me get distracted LOL). I'm constantly trying to decide how much of it is neurological but there's a lot of conflicting answers in the text because they weren't written with that in mind. But there's something to be said about a person like Lestat, turned @ 20 when his brain is still cooking, who will maybe never be great at making decisions. But his mortal life is also full of being rebellious and relying on his own ego that maybe it's just an innate part of his personality. WHO CAN SAY.
I've been thinking a lot about this in regards to the show and how they've aged Louis & Lestat up. Because from what we can tell so far, Lestat is just as obnoxious in the show as he is in the books LOL and I have to wonder, why is he acting like that if he was turned in his 30s?
(This is of course based on Sam Reid's age and idk how old he'll be on the show, let me know if I missed it, but he's visibly older than 20. They've said Louis was turned at 33 in the show.)
Like what does a 30+ year old Lestat look like? Did he ever advance in his theatre career? Was he still living in a shitty little room with Nicki? WAS NICKI EVEN MORE OF AN OLD LOSER? How does this affect Gabrielle's age? Does Lestat spend extra time in Paris or does Gabrielle still have to help her loser 30 year old son move out? Why is Lestat still so attached to his mother? ((These are all rhetorical questions bc the show is not obligated to follow ANY of this and will probably make up a different backstory anyway but allow me this thought experiment.))
But I find it a little confusing that RJ keeps hand waving these decisions as like minor little things that will overall still be faithful to the character, when someone's age is no small thing! And then I think, well, the lore is so different, maybe age doesn't matter in this?
Except, it does, because they won't stop talking about how Claudia is stuck as a hormonal teenage mess?
If your puberty hormones affect you as a vampire, how could your brain development not?
I haven't taken time to dive into my Claudia feelings just yet because I know I don't have enough context and right now I'm just flying on red flags hahaha and I know that isn't fair. I think there's potential for a lot of really rich stories with this version of her character. But I'm concerned about the way the crew has talked about teenage girls and I'm going to be completely crushed if they changed Claudia's character from an excellent feminist symbol to a bunch of sexist tropes about teen girls.
Like why would it matter that Claudia is a hormonal teenager if it doesn't matter that Lestat is in his 30s?
If the answer is that Lestat is just more clearly/blatantly an obnoxious terrible person, I guess it's fine????????????? But hmm. Inch resting LOL.
Anyway these are some of my questions that I have and I'm going to be LOOKING for the answers when I watch. 👀
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alrightsnaps · 2 years
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**wasn't that last anon but to be fair, Claudia Jessie and Nicola Coughlan are extremely baby faced for people in their early 30s, which is why no one ever really criticizes their casting. Not saying that Hannah Dodd looks old enough to be the other bridgerton siblings' aunt ofc but I do agree that she looks a tad old for a fresh debutant so they'll really have to style and camera angle her well, or else she'll end up looking as old as ABCDE and way too far apart in age from GH
Yeah I wouldn't say Claudia or Nicola pass as 18-year-olds, they both look like women in their late twenties. more like we're used to seeing 20-somethings play teens so it doesnt look unrealistic (and it won't with Hannah either)
I'm sorry but y'all are really holding women to INSANELY high standards if you think a woman like Hannah would look as old as Jonny or Luke T lmao (no offence to either but one is greying and the other is balding already). She's playing a character that will be more or less her irl age by the time her story comes up and she's supposed to be a year younger than Eloise.
Claudia didn't look like an 18 year old either but she did just fine in her role and so will Hannah.
(And thank fuck they don't look like 18-year-olds because the last thing I want is to see a realistic representation of a bunch of child brides paraded around for men old enough to be their fathers or grandfathers to marry. It's painful enough with them looking to be in their 20s!)
This whole fixation with her age is weird.
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WebMd Health Discovered Podcast On Youth Mental Health Crisis
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Let's start talking about our youth with the glass half full. 
Cigarette smoking is at a 25-year low among high school students. The rate of juvenile detention has dropped by a third in the last 20 years. Teen pregnancy is down 75 percent in the last 30 years. Violent crime among teens has dropped by 18 percent in the last 30 years.
Now, let's look at that same glass, except it's half empty. From 2011 to 2022, over half a million teen lives (539,810) were lost to suicide, with 2022 showing the highest number of deaths on record. Within this period, the adjusted suicide rate increased by 16 percent.
The National Center For Drug Abuse Statistics revealed that drug use among eight-graders from 2016-2020 went up by 61 percent.
 Recent studies indicate that approximately one in five teens between ages twelve and eighteen suffer from at least one diagnosable mental health disorder. A study published in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology in 2019 indicates the teen mental health crisis continues to grow.
 Globally, one in seven 10-to 19-year-olds experiences a mental disorder, accounting for 13 percent of the global burden of disease in this age group.Depression, anxiety and behavioral disorders are among the leading causes of illness and disability among adolescents. Suicide is the fourth leading cause of death among the 5-29 year-old age range.
Clearly, we have a mental health crisis among our youth, not only in the United States, but also around the globe. 
 Ahead of Mental Health Month in May, Dr. Neha Pathak hosted Claudia-Santi F. Fernandes, Ed.D., LPC, MCHES, and Rahul Rangan, MBBS of Born This Way Foundation, a nonprofit organization founded by Lady Gaga and her mother, Cynthia Germanotta, on WebMD Health Discovered Podcast. 
In this episode, host Dr. Neha Pathak speaks to Dr. Fernandes and Dr. Rangan about the ways peer-to-peer support can benefit today’s youth, the vital mental health resources needed in schools, and the impact of Born This Way Foundation’s Be There Certificate and their Channel Kindness program on building a kinder and braver world.
Highlights in the episode include: 
5:05: How do we reach young people in their mental health journey?
“We learned that the majority of [young people] report connecting with friends as a strategy to support them during difficult times… We know that school climate, we know that peer support, we also know a sense of belonging, specifically inside the school, is so critical. It’s just so important. The reality though, is thinking beyond the school setting, because we also know that young people spend a lot of time online. So when we think about how to respond to the needs of young people and how to acknowledge that they’re spending a lot of time online, we have to think about free accessible resources and tools and strategies that they can access in those areas.” – Dr. Fernandes
10:49: Why do we need to discuss mental health in schools?
“I believe we need to incorporate mental health because it’s been on the back burner for a very long time right now. People do not talk about it — It’s a silent epidemic actually. So I feel that what happens is you need to integrate this with your course learning… It empowers students to feel safe. It gives them an open and honest environment to have a conversation about their health.” – Dr. Rangan
12:08: What are some of the skills that you are teaching children through Born This Way Foundation’s Be There Certificate? 
“There are five golden rules: Say what you see, show you care, hear them out, know your role, and connect to help. The Be There Certificate provides an actionable framework, teaching young people how to recognize when someone may be struggling.” – Dr. Fernandes
14:17: Why is it important to have youth involved in mental health research?
“[Youth-led participatory action research] kind of challenges the notion that young people are too naive or too inexperienced to contribute meaningfully to research. Where actually in reality, youth often have very unique perspectives that aren’t normally considered in traditional research settings. By involving the youth in the research process, it empowers them and it allows us to gain valuable insight to cater to them, especially the issues that affect them directly.” – Dr. Rangan
I'm also recommending two recent episodes of the podcast that have special relevance to younger people.
The Path to Restorative Sleep: Insomnia Insights from a Sleep Expert
Dr. Neha Pathak spoke to Michael Breus, PhD, DABSM, clinical psychologist and diplomate of the American Board of Sleep Medicine, about the common reasons for sleep disruption, the role our chronotypes play in insomnia, the ways we can track our sleep cycle, what we should be asking our doctors when it comes to sleep, and a five-step plan we all can use on the path to more restorative sleep.
A Guide to Colorectal Cancer: Screening, Prevention, and Early Detection
Dr. Neha Pathak speaks with Jaydeep Bhat, MD, MPH, gastroenterologist, and physician lead for resource stewardship at The Southeast Permanente Medical Group, Kaiser Permanente Georgia, about what puts someone at a higher risk for colorectal cancer, the various screening tests available, questions we should ask our primary care doctors, and small and actionable lifestyle changes we can make to reduce our risk.
 The podcast's host, Neha Pathak, MD, FACP, DipABLM, is lead medical editor at WebMD and is board certified in both internal medicine and lifestyle medicine. She's on the medical team responsible for ensuring the accuracy of health information on WebMD and reports on topics related to lifestyle and environmental impacts on health. 
Pathak is a graduate of Harvard University and Weill Medical College of Cornell University. She completed her certificate in climate change and health communication from Yale School of Public Health.
Most of all, she's an excellent podcast host, as well as an excellent physician.
Check out the WebMD Health Discovered Podcast.
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okay obviously this is like... if we ignore the offset election years and the mysterious disappearance of the bushes and no 9/11 and that little point in time where santos and obama would have overlapped and the fact that no WAY would the voters have put democrats in the white house for like almost 20 years. anyway, just suspend your disbelief lol
(also quick little disclaimer: i’m still figuring out my feelings about this administration--the real-life one, not the bartlet one. i, as always, don’t mean to glorify/girlbossify/stan politicians, etc. i’m also not trying to bully any members of any generations, simply making statements based on my observations of the world around me).
josh and toby co-wrote a series of op-eds for the washington post that absolutely read 45’s administration for FILTH
congressman will bailey is having absolutely none of marjorie taylor green’s shit. he was throwing verbal hands on any news show that would take him for weeks.
someone made a post about donna being a regular guest on news shows and i don’t remember who it was, but anyway donna shows up on rachel maddow at least once or twice a month
liz divorced doug (that one’s just personally important to me) and is regularly dragging the shit out of ted cruz on twitter because we KNOW she can
charlie and zoey have a youtube channel where they answer questions about politics (both about the political process and current events). they try to keep it as non-partisan and strictly informational as they can.
jed starts a podcast (honestly, how could he not?). every episode is him talking about a different niche topic for 30-60 minutes. liberal gen xers and older millennials think it’s the best thing to ever happen. #unclejed is trending on twitter for a couple days after the first episode
molly and huck have a moderate amount of tiktok clout and they literally ask their parents every single day if they can adopt claudia conway because they are Concerned about her
cj and jenn psaki have a little moment on twitter and huffpost and/or buzzfeed writes an article titled something like “passing the torch: former wh press secretary sends jenn psaki her love on twitter”
there’s a little portion of leftist tiktok teens/twenty-somethings that are like “josh lyman is a war criminal but holy shit he was/is hot”
ABBEY BARTLET-DR. FAUCI TEAMUP!!! there’s an ad that plays absolutely everywhere where they tell you to wear your mask and wash your hands, and they zoom into a few major news shows
less public ellie bartlet-dr. fauci teamup!!! she’s helping with research from home because of her kids and she’s killing it
kate became a foreign affairs correspondent for cnn and there’s this Look she gives the camera (for context, she was talking about how 45’s treasury secretary went to saudi arabia to speak with the crown prince even AFTER he supposedly murdered that journalist) that instantly becomes a reaction gif. there’s at least one tweet or something that’s like “found the female jim halpert on cnn” with her gif and one of his side-by-side
this might be a hot take but i think ainsley voted for clinton (sorry going back a little ways) because she was def supporting, like, john kasich or someone in the primaries, but she can’t fucking stand 45 and thought that someone with absolutely no political experience whatsoever had no damn right to hold the presidency. i mean, listen, she hated clinton, but what else was she supposed to do, not vote? she becomes a very vocal critic and she’s one of the ones that’s like “this isn’t what the republican party stands for”
sam, who was double-masking before it was cool, is just home writing the novel we all know he was meant to write. he’s less involved with politics. there’s a direct correlation between how much news he watches and how high his blood pressure is. he’s compromised with himself by watching rachel maddow every night (mostly in hopes of seeing donna) and nothing else. besides, josh would text him if it was something REALLY important.
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Di you know any fics that crossover with the Avengers? Preferable with BAMF Stiles. Any Relationship is fine but preferable Sterek
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Hey.... uh, totally sorry for being a bother but do you have any fics with The Snap (from avengers) AU? Anything but Steter and hopefully Stiles-centric. Extra angst is appreciated. Thank you so much. You guys do the work of GODS! It's definitely okay if you don't have any.
All Sterek.
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5 Times the Avengers Were Skeptical of Agent Stilinski and The 1 Time They Weren't by molmcmahon
(1/1 I 7,870 I Teen)
The Avengers are slightly nervous about who their new babysitter would be; only when they meet him, they feel justified about being nervous. He's a kid, fresh out of college with a weird last name and a boyfriend who had followed him to college and beyond.
Let Laughter Light The Way by LittleRedMagician
(5/? I 8,279 I Not Rated)
Stiles mother isn't dead. She just isn't human.
Stiles is kind of half human and half not, but most definitely magical and hiding that fact. Mostly hiding that fact.
New York happens, the Avengers exist, Loki isn't evil, and Thor is an idiot.
Angry Birds Is Not Meant To Be Taken Literally by someonelsesheart
(3/3 I 12,197 I Teen)
Derek gets that he and Stiles are kind of on a Need To Know basis, he really does, he just thinks that Stiles’ godfather being in the freaking Avengers counts as pretty Need To Know.
Training a Spark by a_dale
(6/6 I 18,735 I Not Rated)
5 times the Avengers help Stiles, 1 time he returns the favour.
Shattered by AbsolutelyNoChill_OnlyDeath
(15/? I 49,285 I Teen)
A brightly shining light flickers as a darkness threatens to consume the heart. Will the light finally flicker and die or shine brighter with newfound strength found in his Spark?
Three Misfits in New York by Morraine
(28/28 I 68,543 I Teen)
After Gerard beat up Stiles, the Sheriff doesn't believe his son's lies anymore. He demands answers and along the way mends his fragile relationship with his son. While they do their best to make sure that something like Gerard's attack will never happen again, new and unexpected friendships form and Stiles learns that he actually is kind of special. Suddenly it's not Scott by his side but Lydia and Derek, something he wouldn't have dared dreaming about in his wildest fantasies. Coupled with a surprise trip to New York and meeting an Avenger or five, life is bound to change drastically for the three misfits and their families.
Superheroes by riverchic1998
(20/? I 70,853 I Mature)
When Stiles reads the posts, he’s more confused. They’re older posts, back from his undergrad freshman year, but it was during a supernatural attack that a bunch of people got caught in. Stiles practically ran himself into the ground offering support, advice, and gathering information for Scott and Derek so they could do damage control.
“This tells me nothing,” Stiles says. “Except that you can use Google and know how to take screenshots.”
“I consider it your resume,” Fury tells him.
Stiles freezes, because what.
Fury doesn’t say anything else, doesn’t explain, even after Stiles gestures for more. “What the hell do you mean it’s my resume? If you haven’t realized it, I’m still in college.”
He doesn’t look impressed. “You’ve been in college. You have two degrees, four separate certifications, and you’re on the fast-track for a PhD.”
“I like learning,” Stiles deadpans.
“You like helping, and it just so happens that I have someone you can help.”
Hidden Truths by Harmonious113
(17/20 I 174,064 I Teen)
Claudia Stilinkski always did her best to hide the truth from her family-her past, her family, the boy she couldn’t quite seem to let go of- to spare John and Stiles from the heartbreak. Stiles finds a trunk of letters and pictures unearthing the truth.
His father is Tony Stark.
The Weight of the World by Belladdictedd
(30/? I 196,899 I Not Rated)
Stiles had never known more to his life than the pack. Thus, when the pack decided he's too much of a collateral damage, he runs. While running from his past, he stumbled his way into S.H.I.E.L.D and somehow managed to squirm his way into the hearts of The Avengers, especially a certain Captain's.
When he had finally amount to a life worth living, the world just had to crash and burn. He and The Avengers are humanity's last hope--a heavy burden to bear with hard decisions to make, all while dealing with his old pack. Sometimes, you just can't save everyone; Stiles learned that the hard way.
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In episode 6, the worlds ended, thanks to Adam’s double apocalypse. In episode 7, we meet the new world. And tie up a few loose ends.
Recap
The episode begins with a twist on the opening voice over- a segment from HG Tannhaus’ science show from the 1970s:
Tannhaus: “What is reality? Is it singular in nature? Or do several parallel realities exist at the same time? To address this, Erwin Schrodinger constructed an extremely interesting thought experiment. Schrodinger’s cat. A cat is locked in a steel chamber with a tiny amount of a radioactive substance, a Geiger counter, a vial of poison and a hammer. As soon as a radioactive atom disintegrates inside the steel chamber, the Geiger counter triggers the release of the hammer, which smashes the vial of poison. The cat is dead.
“However, due to the wave characteristics in the quantum world, that atom is indeed disintegrated and intact. Both states are true until our own observation forces it into a definitive state of existence. Until the moment we check and see, we can’t know if the cat’s dead or alive. It exists in two superposed states. The attributes “dead” and “alive” exist simultaneously in the microcosm.
“But what if the simultaneous existence of life and death also applied to the macrocosmic world? Could different realities exist side by side? Could we split time and let it run in two different directions, and, as with the cat, induce a state of death and life simultaneously? And if so, how many different realities could exist side by side?”
Good question- how many realities could exist side by side? Is that the normal state of reality- for many realities to exist side by side, happily coexisting long term without judging each other’s existences, each accepting that sometimes the cat lives, sometimes she dies, and sometimes she chooses to leave the box closed and uncertain forever? That does seem like what the theory predicts, doesn’t it?
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The famous cat, waiting for her life to go one way or the other.
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HG Tannhaus presents the 2 potential states which the cat is superposed in- it exists as both a live cat and a dead cat at the same time, until an observer opens the box and forces circumstances in one direction or the other. The observer affects the outcome because of quantum entanglement.
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A representation of 3 equal states/worlds/dimensions superposed together which arose from one moment in time, showing this is possible in the Dark universe, according to science expert HG Tannhaus.
In the Prime world 2020, Alt Ex Raincoat Now Emo Martha stands outside of Hannah’s house at the end of S2, just after Adam shoots Prime Martha. Inside, Young Jonas watches his Martha die and promises to make it right. Alt Martha goes inside- or does she? In split screen, one Martha runs into the house, while the other stops when Bartosz appears and yells to her not to go inside, Back to the Future-style. He tells her that Adam doesn’t want to stop the apocalypse and will kill her in the future.
Bartosz says that they’re all doomed because of Jonas/Adam, because everything is his fault.
Of course it is. At least some things are consistent across all of Space-Time.
As the black hole warp bubble forms in the sky, Jonas runs to the basement. Bartosz takes out the time sphere and begs Martha to trust him. He can save her and show her the origin and how everything is connected. Martha and Bartosz poof away just as the shockwave hits.
So good to have Bartosz acting normally again.
Time to note the next twist of the episode- sometimes we are seeing a 3rd world, which I am going to creatively continue to call the 3rd world or Tannhaus’ world. You can tell when it’s this world because widescreen black bars appear at the top and bottom of the picture. And HG Tannhaus appears.
Except in this episode, the jumps between worlds aren’t always marked by any of the normal markers that we’re used to. Make of that what you will- do some of the scenes apply to multiple worlds? Are we seeing Bartosz’s world sometimes? Are we seeing more of Tannhaus’ world than we realize?
Did the most recent surges in time energy fry the system in some way so that the boundaries between worlds are overlapping and more fractured than usual? Maybe the new connections that were made need a while to settle down? Usually, after an event like the end of episode 6, we’d be shown where/when travel has now been opened up to- my guess is that’s why we can see Tannhaus’ world in this episode. The connection to his world has been made or changed. We’d also usually be shown the travelers along with the new places they went, but apparently we’re assuming Martha, Charlotte and Aleksander are dead.
In the Prime world, in 1986 HG told Teen Charlotte that his son, daughter-in-law and infant granddaughter, Charlotte, died when their car went off a bridge in a storm in 1971. Baby Charlotte’s body was never found. That same night, two peculiar women brought him a replacement infant to raise. The “For Charlotte” pocket watch, a Tannhaus family heirloom since the early 19th century, came with her. Teen Charlotte met Peter, who came to town that day and eventually became her husband, on the day HG told her about her past. Both HG and Charlotte were given reasons to stay in town and stay settled when they were told the story of the accident.
In the 3rd world, in 1974, the clock shop looks much more like an inventor’s workshop than usual. HG works on a machine on a table late at night. It’s unclear whether he has Charlotte in this reality. We never see her, but he could be working around her sleep and then later her school hours. In S1, Prime Charlotte found a piece of the time machine chair room’s wall paper in the bunker and recognized it for what it was.
That suggests that on the Prime world, Tannhaus brought her with him to the bunker while he worked at night and the room was originally set up as a bedroom and playroom for her. The ownership of the bunker and cabin is murky, since we’ve been shown that the property also belonged to the Dopplers, especially Helge, during the same period. Bernd Doppler and HG were the same age and may have been friends, sharing ownership of the vacation/hunting cabin between the families.
The ownership of the cabin could be a bootstrap paradox- someone could have changed history. Bernd and Helge are Claudia’s allies, so it would benefit her to pass ownership of the passage to them. Encouraging marriage between Charlotte and Peter also accomplishes that goal.
Or we could have been seeing the cabin and bunker in multiple worlds all along, but it’s only become clear now that the timelines have differentiated more. In the pilot, Jonas’ timeline, Martha’s timeline and Bartosz’s timeline may have been identical. They could be living in entirely different universes by now.
HG glances at his photo of his son and family, then the scene switches to the Winden graveyard and the family’s gravestone. They died on November 8, 1971. Marek was born on March 20, 1947. Sonja was born May 26, 1949. Charlotte’s birthday was May 30, 1971. She was just 5 months old when she died. HG leaves a red knit animal on the grave for Charlotte.
Both Charlotte and Sonja were born just a few weeks before the Summer Solstice, the peak of the light. Marek was born on the Spring Equinox, one of the balance points in the year between light and dark, this one tipped toward light.
In voice over, HG says that it’s hard for humans to accept death and loss. “We long in vain for a way to turn back time. To reverse death.”
“But if time is relative and nothing is really ever in the past, and the simultaneous overlapping of different realities is possible, shouldn’t it then also be possible to bring back something that was believed to be dead long ago and to create a new reality in which the dead live again? If our life is defined as everything between birth and death, it exists there, ad infinitum. Could we succeed in cheating death by finding a way to bring back life, there, between time?”
As he speaks, HG goes to the Doppler cottage and down into the empty bunker. He must own the cottage on this world. He looks around the bunker thoughtfully.
The bolded question is the central question of the series and especially this season. There are several different stories about how time travel began on Dark. They all have to do with bringing someone back from the dead. Generally, the characters’ theories about the knot involve blaming someone who they believe shouldn’t be alive either.
The show’s focus on how guilty characters feel about this or that serves to distract from how alarmingly frequent murder and physical violence have become. When you combine this violence with the way Adam speaks about who deserves Paradise and pay attention to how few characters Eva saves from the apocalypse, it starts to look like a multi world genocide.
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Prime world, 2021.
Young Elisabeth and Hanno work to clear the rubble from the passage. It can’t be that long since Hanno finished clearing the passage the first time, in the 1920s, so he has every right to be an angry guy. Adam couldn’t send him to the 1990s for some R&R for a few years first?
Of course not, Adam doesn’t believe in happiness or fun anymore.
They reach one of the Sic Mundus doors, which gives them hope. Later, while they’re relaxing, Elisabeth looks at the For Charlotte watch that Adult Noah gave her. She asks Hanno to tell her about Paradise. He uses sign and speech. “Paradise is free of pain and sorrow. Everything we’ve ever done is forgotten there. Any pain that we’ve ever felt is erased. And all the dead live. Adam will keep his promise. The passageway will open up.”
So cruel of Adam/Jonas to raise all of these kids on the dream of a beautiful world, then take it away from them. Such a timely storyline. Better living through chemistry and physics, y’all, ’til the artificially concentrated and combined chemicals turn into poisons that build up in every system on earth.
Prime world, 1890.
Adam/Stranger Jonas is working in his workshop, wearing a leather suit that looks like a hazmat suit, but of course it isn’t as sturdy. The cesium 137 is placid in its basin until he turns on the electricity. Once it’s been hit enough times, it turns into a blue-black cloud, but it remains unstable.
When Jonas goes to one of the lightning rods to adjust something, he gets struck in the arm by an intense bolt. It gives him a large burn. The energy surge probably would have killed anyone else. He glares at the stone basin where the God particle lives- it’s sentient, so given the way he treats it, it probably is out to get him.
Later, he finds Bartosz staring out the window in the one bedroom in 1888. It’s time for their regular blame Jonas session. Bartosz is angry that Jonas hasn’t reinvented time travel and all of 20th century technology yet, after two whole years in the 19th century. He’s wasting the best years of his life here in the past and he doesn’t think Steampunk is a good look on him at all.
Jonas reiterates that he knows he’ll get the God particle working eventually, because he’s already seen it working in the future-past, but Bartosz continues to be suspicious of his intentions. Jonas explains that he wants to fix everything, not just one event or one person’s problems. He’s the savior, okay? That’s bigger than their love triangle.
Jonas: “If the portal works, then we can use it to find the origin. The one moment that started all of this. And when we’ve found it, we’ll destroy it. And everything that arises from it. That is paradise.”
Bartosz storms out and takes a long walk in the rain. Of course it’s raining. Jonas makes a mental note to do something about this situation in the future, like get Bartosz a girlfriend or a hobby so he’ll quit being such a pain in the butt.
Still in the 1890s.
Silja arrives from the 2050s, wearing Alt Martha’s 1800s outfit. She hides her hazmat suit under some brush. Bartosz comes stomping by, still fuming over Jonas. Silja makes a little noise so that Bartosz will notice her, then comes over to introduce herself.
And Jonas’ Bartosz problem is solved.
I hope that Hanno, Agnes and Silja at least got to pick out which family members they wanted to date before the first cycles in which they were used this way. Because there is no other way to interpret how they are sent to Elisabeth, Doris and Bartosz and the way Agnes was bred with the Unknown. We never see Silja question her path, but Agnes expects Jonas to keep up his side of their deal (plus, she doesn’t stay with either Doris or Unknown). Hanno/Noah openly chafes at the expectations placed on him, and eventually rebels against them, even though he loves Eli.
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2023, Prime world.
After 3 years of torture by blue lightning bolts from Jonas and Claudia, the cosmic egg has developed a transparent, protective outer layer, but seems no closer to becoming a time travel portal. Claudia and Jonas give up for the day and rinse the radiation off their hazmat gear in the outer section of the power plant. Jonas is super depressed and ready to quit. Claudia tries to convince him to keep going, because, well, he just has to. Someday, somehow, it just has to work, if they can keep up their team spirit. Jonas tells her he really doesn’t have any team spirit and walks away.
Of course he goes home. He stops in the kitchen for one last look at all of his emotional touchstones- the family portrait, the kitchen table where he last saw Michael, the spot on the floor where Martha died. Then he goes up to Michael’s studio, which has tree branches growing in through the skylight. A sign from his dad, the Sun King- choose life! Jonas looks up at the ceiling beam fondly, then goes about the business of hanging himself.
He doesn’t die. Young Hanno rushes in and cuts him down, sent by either Claudia or Adam. The poor kid has been doing hard labor in the tunnels for years, now he has to live in the barren cave with his child bride, and his savior can’t even be bothered to stay alive. He tells Jonas that he and Adam made Noah and Hanno a promise that the apocalypse had to happen so that everyone would get saved. “You cannot die.”
I think if Jonas died, Hanno would kill him.
He hands Jonas a gun. Jonas holds it to his head and fires. 5 times. Hanno takes the gun back and fires the bullet in the last chamber at the wall. Time and Hanno win this game of Russian roulette.
Hanno explains that Jonas can’t kill himself, because his older self already exists. A force or a person will always intervene. He tells Jonas that he and Elisabeth have found the passage, as ordered by Jonas’ older self. So now it’s up to Jonas to keep the promises made by his older selves.
When Hanno burst into the room, Jonas asked why he was there and if he was following him. After that, Jonas stayed silent. When they’re done with the gun, Hanno brings him to the passage to prove that it’s waiting to be reopened. Jonas stays silent for this as well.
Hanno tells him again that the passage will open up and then Adam will take them to Paradise. Before then, he and Jonas are supposed to become friends, until Hanno is betrayed.
It’s always worded that way- Hanno/Noah will be betrayed and Jonas will be to blame. Jonas is never blamed in the active voice and Hanno never notices. But Hanno is also one of the few who knew Adam well before he met Jonas, so he sees Adam as the real version. Young Jonas is merely the alternate.
Jonas is already tired of the burdens placed on him by people he hasn’t become yet.
And he isn’t even saving for retirement or a mortgage or his kid’s college or keeping up with the maintenance on that poor house so he can pass it down to the Unknown. His eldercare plan for his parents is pretty rough, too.
I’m thinking Jonas’ cosmic egg is also a metaphor for all of those core wounds that get buried deep inside and won’t budge, no matter what you do to heal them. They pop out occasionally as giant black time clouds or nightmares or ex boyfriends. They say that time heals all wounds, but even time can’t heal some damage.
Metamaiden says she assumes that “time heals all wounds” means you’ll die eventually anyway and then your problems will be over.
She was born with this cheery outlook, folks.
But you see- Jonas doesn’t have death to look forward to as an end to his pain, so he keeps zapping that poor time egg. It’s ultimately a circle of torture and self-loathing, punctuated by occasional suicide attempts. He didn’t even hesitate before he pulled the trigger on that gun, 5 times in a row.
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In 1904, Silja gives birth to a baby boy. She tells Bartosz she wants to name him Hanno. Bartosz realizes that this innocent newborn baby will grow up to be the killer who brought him into Sic Mundus while posing as a priest and drug dealer.
In the 3rd world, 1974, Tannhaus hangs the photo of his son’s family on the bunker wall, mirroring the way Claudia hung photos on the wall and Martha made the family trees in chalk. The 3rd world mirrors the other two, but things don’t happen in exactly the same way or at the same time.
Tannhaus: “Fate is playing a cruel trick on us. Yet we will always believe there is a way to turn the tide in our favor. If we only want it hard enough. A person is able to pursue any goal, no matter how unattainable it may seem, over the course of an entire lifetime. No resistance, no obstacle is great enough to stop the human will in its tracks… Throughout the ages, isn’t this unquenchable thirst at the heart of any progress that is ever made? No matter what motivates our will, it guides us on our path. We will only be able to let go once we have finally reached our goal.”
As Adult Tannhaus speaks, he spends the 12 years from 1974 to 1986 building a time machine in the bunker. At the same time, he turns into Old Tannhaus. The machine is a large ball with even larger rays sticking out. When he’s done, it looks like a room size version of what’s probably in the sphere.
We saw a similar aging process mirrored with Gustav Tannhaus in the carriage, which had a prophet, the wheels of time and Charlotte’s watch, even if it didn’t technically have a souped up time machine. HG’s new time machine could be seen as a high tech variation on a wheel of time or a cosmic egg as well.
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Forward to Prime world, 2040.
17 years have passed in the power plant and Hanno and Jonas have aged into their older selves. Hanno works with Claudia and Jonas on the God particle. At rest, it’s still a white cosmic egg, but when stimulated by enough electricity, it gradually turns black, then becomes the larger cloud that’s a precursor to forming portals. They all look hopeful for a moment as the cloud begins to smooth out into a ball, but it doesn’t hold the formation.
Later that night, Jonas and Hanno stand outside in the dark over a fire. Jonas wonders why the portal isn’t working.
Hanno: “Maybe Claudia doesn’t want it to work.”
(This is correct.)
He asks why Jonas trusts Claudia. Jonas asks why Hanno trusts Adam (Adam raised him).  He tells Hanno that Adam’s Paradise is a lie and that he knows the portal will work eventually, because he’s seen it, in the future-future. Everything repeats itself, so this will, too, Jonas is sure that he can do things differently this time though. He and Claudia have changed enough of the components in the passage so that this time, he’ll be able to close it forever when he tries in November 2019, as Stranger Jonas.
Hanno confirms that Claudia told Jonas this. Then he asks what Jonas actually knows about Claudia. “She sometimes disappears for days. How does she know all the things she knows? She said that not all that’s here, should exist here. What did she mean by that? Claudia’s hiding something from us. We can’t trust her. I hope that you know that.”
A very pregnant Elisabeth calls Hanno inside for the night.
Alt Claudia to Prime Claudia: “He still doesn’t suspect anything?”
Prime Claudia: “No, he has no idea that you or the other world exist.”
Alt Claudia: “You must continue to guide him on this path. The matter must not function yet. You keep the knot up in your world, and I’ll keep it in mine.”
Alt Claudia pulls out the sphere, ready to leave. Prime Claudia stop her. She asks how Eva knows what will happen in the future and what instructions to give them. She wonders if Eva knows everything, every future. Has Alt Claudia met her? Alt Claudia asks who she means. Prime Claudia says, “My older self.” Alt Claudia says, “No.”
Prime Claudia: “I still remember exactly what she said. ‘If all this works, then our Regina will live.’ I’ve thought about it all these years. I just can’t believe that what she meant by that was that her suffering would repeat endlessly. There must be a way to untie the knot, without destroying all life in it. A way for Regina to live. Really live. I think neither Eva nor Adam know this path. But I’ll find it. In my world or yours.”
Prime Claudia takes out a gun and shoots Alt Claudia in the forehead. Alt Claudia dies. Prime Claudia becomes the supreme deity on 2 worlds. She picks up her prize, the Golden Time Snitch of Omniscience. Now she can figure out what the multiverse is really all about.
Because they’d never seen an Alt Old Claudia, Prime Claudia assumed she was meant to kill her. Claudias think this way. To be fair, so do Adams and Evas. They are gods, far beyond our mortal ways of thinking about murder and death. They know there’s always another version of the person, somewhere, on some world, and anyway, that person will be born again, next cycle, like nothing ever happened.
Claudia is assuming that at some point she changed the course of the cycles to bend toward favoring her Regina. And if that isn’t the reason Alt Claudia died in past cycles, well, it is now. If you ever think that changes haven’t been occurring over the course of the cycles, go watch S1Ep1 and any S2 episode again. The Windens are all very different places.
And with all the Claudia drama, we skipped right past the confirmation that she’s actively holding back progress on the God particle portal (“The matter must not function yet.”). She doesn’t need to hold Jonas back in 1888. The primitive working conditions do that by themselves. In the 21st century, they can scavenge modern materials. So she’s misdirecting him toward experiments that are ineffective, while she and Eva, and maybe Adam, work on other goals.
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Swoop into the Alt world, focus on those darn scorched paintings. This scene takes place after the apocalypse in the Alt world, when Stranger Martha is aging into Eva, so it’s probably about 2040 there as well. Eva’s God particle apparatus is disassembled on the floor, so she probably lost it in the shockwave too and is trying to rebuild it.
The same scenario is being played out on all 3 worlds, in a different way on each world. As promised, no matter what, the three worlds are linked and the same archetypal events repeat between them. Family members die and get lost, going all the way back to the first Charlotte Tannhaus in the early 1800s, creating the desire to change the timeline. Time travel is invented and reinvented, repeatedly, by the same or different people. This is not a one time occurence based on a single sad event.
Tannhaus justifies following his Will with no restrictions by saying that wanting his son back so badly makes it okay. Claudia believes that saving Regina’s life justifies anything she will do for that cause, no matter who else she hurts in the process. Both arguments come back to Bernd’s advice to take what you want, because no one will give it to you. The flip side of that is the assumption that you are owed whatever you want and no one else’s needs or desires matter as much as your own.
When Prime Claudia enters, Stranger Eva asks if her alternate self is coming, too? Claudia says that Noah is watching her, so she couldn’t get away.
Note that she knows he’s suspicious of her and is limiting her movements because of him. When Charlotte disappears, Noah’s mental focus is conveniently removed from Claudia and his physical person is conveniently removed to time periods and locations Adult Claudia mostly stays away from.
Eva rolls up a blueprint for a time travel device and tells Claudia to give it to the other Claudia, who must then give it to Tannhaus to build. She asks if the Claudias understand why everything they’re doing is necessary and everything has to keep repeating. Claudia nods her head yes.
At some point, everyone in Winden will have been designed one of the time travel devices. I’m glad to see Martha get her shot. Does Alt Tannhaus also get blueprints, or does the Alt world go straight from their futuristic God particle portal design to the sphere?
Back in time to 1910. We aren’t shown a switch back to the Prime world, and for the first time all season, we’re shown the outside of Erna’s tavern and boarding house. Either we’re still in the Alt world, or this happened in both worlds. Both worlds, is my guess.
Silja has died in childbirth. A woman tells Hanno that he has to be strong now for his father. Someone holds crying baby Agnes. A crazed looking Bartosz bursts into the room and kneels at Silja’s side. The midwife tells him the baby’s name. He looks overwhelmed.
Forward to 2041.
Under a full moon, Hanno and Elisabeth leave their cabin to bring in the laundry that’s hung outside. Elisabeth asks Hanno to tell her about paradise. As he tells her the same story he told her in the caves in 2020, 2053 Charlotte and Elisabeth sneak into their cabin to kidnap Baby Charlotte. Elisabeth picks up the baby she lost 12 years prior. Charlotte takes the pocket watch.
When Hanno is done with the story, they hug and take the laundry inside, where they discover that Charlotte is missing.
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Hanno vs Noah
By telling Elisabeth the story, Hanno keeps her facing away from the cabin during the kidnapping, so she has no idea what happens. But as it’s happening, he seems like he’s upset and trying to control his emotions. From where he’s standing, he should notice the movements of the two women entering and leaving his cabin.
Noah/Hanno tells the Paradise story to Elisabeth twice on camera- just after Peter dies, which he knew was coming but didn’t prevent, and now during Charlotte’s kidnapping. Did he know it was coming and that he had to let it happen? Even though he spends the rest of his life blaming Adam and Claudia?
I think he did know that he had to let it happen, but he blames them because Charlotte is taken as part of their war. Prime Hanno blames Adam/Jonas and Claudia for the whole war and the way it tears the whole family apart, starting with the death of his mother. Silja was born in the 50s. If she hadn’t been time displaced, she probably wouldn’t have died in childbirth.
Before he dies, Bartosz tells his son to ask Adam why he took Hanno back in as an adult, after the apocalypse and after Charlotte was taken, and called him Noah instead of Hanno. The biblical Noah is remembered for saving his own family and two members of every species. Since we are all theoretically descended from those winners, we see it as a victory for the virtuous.
We rarely think about the fact that Bible Noah knew the flood was coming and did nothing to stop everyone but his family from dying. Noah’s immediate family weren’t actually much better than anyone else. It’s more likely that Noah had boat building skills and was in the right place at the right time. But Noah went along with God’s plan and watched everyone die, feeling quite good about himself. In fact, when it’s all over, God makes a backhanded promise to Noah:
“Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.”
God promises he won’t send another apocalypse, even though humans are born evil with no hope of ever changing. God has apparently given up on finding good in humanity and is settling for telling people to be fruitful and multiply.
Like so many others, Hanno usually has good intentions overall, but he performs evil acts, such as killing Erik, Yasin and Mads, to attain his goals. In the Dark world, consequences usually catch up with the characters over time, no matter their intentions.
Hanno leaves the cabin and goes straight to Jonas, who’s working in the bunker, and demands to know where Charlotte is. Jonas is taken by surprise as Hanno shoves him up against a wall and nearly chokes him to death. Hanno continues to ask where Charlotte is and whether Jonas or Claudia took her. He says that he finally understands how Jonas betrays their friendship. Before he leaves, he curses Jonas with endless suffering.
Too late. Jonas has been there for a long time. Or is this falling out between best friends the true origin of the timeline split? They’ve been close for 18 years. I think that’s Jonas’ real time record. And their fireside chat showed that they really were very close.
Causality. Such a slippery concept on this show.
Hanno returns to Elisabeth, who looks like her soul has been ripped from her body. She’s fondling Charlotte’s tiny knit cap. He promises to find Charlotte and bring her back. A bit of resolve forms in Elisabeth’s eyes as he gets up to leave, but they both know their life together is over. He picks up the triquetra diary and puts it inside his coat, an offering to help smooth his way back into Adam’s lair after wishing him endless suffering.
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Where is Charlotte? Mikkel? Ulrich? Mads?
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Noah/Hanno does find Charlotte after some number of years in his life. We aren’t told how many, though he refers to it as a long time, during their first conversation in the clock shop. When he finds her in 2019, after reading the final pages of the triquetra diary, she’s 49 years old and has already been told by Stranger Jonas that Noah killed Yasin, Erik and Mads. That’s the true betrayal of the Jonas-Hanno friendship. Adam is no longer Hanno’s friend, so I don’t think it matters what he does to Adult Hanno/Noah. Hanno is just waiting for the chance to kill Adam.
It’s Stranger who drives Hanno’s long lost daughter from him by giving her out of context information that benefits Stranger and makes Noah seem like a terrible person who’s only motivated by his cult’s orders and his own sadism. That’s what we all thought about Noah in season 1.
Instead, Noah is a driven man, more like an addict who’ll do anything to get what he needs, which is something Stranger Jonas should understand. For a long time, Jonas mainly takes his pain out on himself and Martha. But even in his more benign forms, he’s coerced into participating in Michael’s death and Mikkel’s kidnapping, which ultimately lead to Ulrich’s confinement and Katharina’s death.
Adam coerces Hanno into becoming a demon just as surely as Claudia leads Jonas to his fate as Adam, heartless mass killer. Hanno can’t simply leave his daughter alone and abandoned in the world. He’s been trained since his mother died to be a caretaker and fixer. The murder of the boys is even mixed up with raising Helge and getting him back to 1954.
Meanwhile, Charlotte is displaced in time in before she’s even born in 2041, since Hanno was born in 1904 and Elisabeth was born in 2011. In addition to her kidnapping to a third time period, she and Elisabeth give birth to each other.
Alt Charlotte was born in 1971, the year HG Tannhaus tells Prime Teen Charlotte his original granddaughter was born. But Noah and Elisabeth still enter the bunker in the Alt world and Charlotte and Elisabeth are still shown giving birth to each other on the Alt world family tree. Is this a clue or a mistake?
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If this is real, and isn’t changed within 48 hours of me posting this recap, then it perhaps fits with the theory I’ve had about Charlotte since sometime in S2- I think that when she’s kidnapped as an infant, 3 versions of her are swapped between 3 worlds, not just taken to another time in the same world. If the Charlotte who’s in the Alt world was born in 1971, then she could be the Charlotte either from Tannhaus’ world or Bartosz’s world. Alt Infant Charlotte would have been taken to the Prime world and Prime Infant Charlotte would have gone to the 3rd world.
The Adult Elisabeths and Charlottes (or someone else- we don’t know who ran Marek’s car off the road) would have done this round robin with the infants between the 3 (or 4) worlds to help create or strengthen a connection in time and space- an earlier, less binding version of the Unknown. I can’t explain every detail because of the bootstrap paradoxes involved in Charlotte’s family and HG’s family, but I suspect they are the same family, slightly altered between variations in timelines, time accidents and deliberate tampering.
HG Tannhaus: “A man can do what he wills, but he cannot will what he wills. All the paths we take in our lives, every choice we make, is guided by our deepest desires. It’s pointless to fight this sense of want. It determines every one of our actions, no matter how difficult and unimaginable they seem.”
This is a very different sentiment from the one expressed by Prime world HG Tannhaus, who’s said many times that he’s always wanted to travel, but circumstances have required him to stay in the present, running his clock shop.
3rd world, 1986, the bunker.
Tannhaus looks at the family photo on the wall and removes his lab coat. It’s time. He presses keys on a keyboard, fiddles with this and that, then decisively presses the 2 blood red buttons on the wall. The time machine fires up- literally. The center ball is coated in a thin layer of orange flames, with waves of electricity flowing up the arms, but the machine doesn’t seem to be out of control in any way. The music and other sound effects aren’t ominous either.
Prime world, 1911, Tannhaus factory.
Bartosz is in the courtyard working on a car when Hannah and her approximately 4 year old daughter approach, device/apparatus suitcase in hand. Bartosz, who already looks haunted, recognizes that this child is his wife, who’s been dead for about a year. Hannah asks for Jonas. Bartosz warns her that traveling has changed him, but still takes her to see Jonas in his lair.
Jonas is in a transitional stage between Stranger and Adam. He’s in Adam’s uniform and stands staring at the painting. But he still stands tall and straight. Adam will eventually sort of melt into rounded edges and a more socially presentable public persona. This man is still in the midst of the hottest part of the fire.
When he turns around, Hannah is momentarily shocked by the extreme facial scarring. In this time period, his face looks like a skull in ways that will soften later, maybe when he tires of punishing himself. Hannah recovers quickly and introduces his sister to him.
She’s clearly saddened by what she sees, but as a mother who wishes she could have helped spare her child this pain. She touches his cheek and explains that an old woman, Eva, came to her a few days ago and told her that Jonas needed her and where to find him. She promises to be there for him from now on.
Since Jonas doesn’t want to be spared pain, he’s not interested in her compassion and even finds it repulsive. He removes her hand from his cheek with enough menace that Hannah feels it. He finds himself repulsive and probably finds anything connected to him repulsive right now. He tells Igor Bartosz to take them to the bedroom.
Later that night, once it’s raining, Jonas sneaks into the bedroom. He goes to Silja first, but as he’s carefully folding down her covers, Hannah awakens and asks what he’s doing. He decides it’s Hannah’s turn first and sits on the edge of her bed, as we’ve seen Young Jonas do for sweet mother-son talks.
This is an entirely different situation. He tells Hannah that she and Silja aren’t right here and all of the pieces must be in the correct position. Hannah knows something isn’t right with him, but he’s got her lying down and blocked in. He gently touches her face, calls her Mom one last time, then pulls her pillow out from under her and smothers her to death.
She and Silja are both in white nightgowns. Women should refuse all white garments on this show. It never ends well.
When Jonas is done brutally murdering his mother, he turns to his baby sister and wakes her up, telling her has a secret to show her. He needs her to be quiet so they don’t wake her mom up. He carries her out so that she’s facing back toward Hannah’s body, staring at it the entire way to the door. Hannah very clearly isn’t asleep.
I can Only Salvage So Much from a Bad Situation, Okay?
So. That was sickening and exploitative. There is no good reason to include hints of pedophilia and for Jonas to brutally murder the mother he hasn’t seen in decades. Given the number of characters who commit heinous crimes, such as Helene, and are never caught, and the women who just disappear, such as Greta, there was no reason to bring Hannah back simply to kill her this way.
Though Tannhaus’ last voiceover certainly justifies indulging in any sexual or violent predilection you can come up with, regardless of the other person’s desires. Is that what this show is saying? Anything goes?
The message, if there ever was one, has gotten confused in these last few episodes, as if this show doesn’t know what it’s trying to say anymore. I’m tearing my hair out trying to continue some kind of coherent narrative through line that holds together through the final episode. I finally realized the only way to do it was to give up.
Maybe Claudia has taken the wheel and Hannah had to die out of revenge, because she allowed Ulrich and Katharina to think Regina had turned Ulrich in for rape. That’s a giant stretch though, to the point where I’m writing the show for the creators. And many innocent people who had little to do with Claudia or Regina have died horrible deaths.
I could play the mythology card, and say that Jonas is Hades, the god of the Underworld, who has been collecting young women as his Persephones. Hannah, as the Mother goddess/Demeter, came to look into the situation. Jonas sent her back to another realm, where she wouldn’t interfere with his plans. The myth is sometimes called The Rape of Persephone. In mythology, Demeter mostly wins, though they essentially end with joint custody of Persephone, creating the seasons. Demeter isn’t going to win here.
And there’s only one Persephone, whereas Jonas is collecting everyone’s children for his cult, but mostly girls. Adding a scene where he has a skull face, creeps on a small child in bed at night who’s dressed in white, then kills her mother when he’s caught and carries the little girl off, pretty much solidifies his symbolic nature as a pedophile. At least they only implied the pedophelia itself, rather than showing it.
But this finishes the assassination of both his character and Martha’s character. When we met Martha, she was was on a hunger strike to save starving children. Now she’s procuring women and girls for men who like to murder women and rape little girls?
Yes, the fairy-tale witch imagery has been there all season in Eva’s long black dress. I’d hoped they’d avoid actually going to the stereotype for old women, witches and the biblical Eve, even though they’re obsessed with stamping out original sin. I should have realized that getting rid of the “origin” would involve killing as many mother figures as possible, while turning over little girls to men as child brides.
Because it’s really all Jonas’ mother’s fault, right? She must have done something wrong to make him this way. She must love him too much or too little or embarrass him in front of the other boys. Otherwise he wouldn’t need to live in the basement forever and only have sex twice in his life.
This is an incredibly disappointing direction for this show to take, in so many ways. Beyond misogyny, the philosophy seems to be that people just can’t control themselves and there’s no point in trying.
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1920, Erna’s tavern.
Adult Hanno enters the bar, fresh from 2041. The crowd pauses for a moment when the stranger enters. He tells Erna that he’s come a long way and needs someplace to rest. She calls for Young Hanno and tells him to take their guest upstairs to a room.
Adult Hanno goes to see Adam in his lair. Adam has become the older version played by Dietrich Hollinderbäumer. Before Hanno can speak, Adam says that he’s been waiting for Hanno’s visit. He says that Hanno was right about Claudia all along. She was the one who stole Charlotte. Adam says that Hanno needs to find the missing pages from the triquetra diary, with the help of Helge. Then he’ll find Charlotte, his final destination and his Paradise. Adam hands Hanno a bible and says that this will be his last cycle. “Are you ready, Noah?”
Forward to 2052, the bunker.
Old Claudia gives instructions to Stranger Jonas. They’ve finally stabilized the dark matter/Cesium 137. She’s sending Stranger off to November 2019 to lead Young Jonas down the correct path. If he helps everyone he knows complete this cycle in the exact same way they’ve done all the other cycles, for sure change will occur this time.
I have to wonder what she’s been putting in his food for the last few decades.
She hands him Tannhaus’ book, A Journey Through Time and says that the author will repair the apparatus. Once the device is repaired, he can destroy the passage and the knot. It’ll work for sure this time.
Because doing everything exactly the same way always creates the change you’re looking for.
As he’s headed out the door, she tells him not to ever give up hope. Then she tears out the last few pages of the triquetra diary, sticks them in her coat pocket, and leaves.
Now for a brief recap of the series. Stranger goes to Winden in November 2019, when Mikkel and the other boys have gone missing. Noah experiments on the time machine chair, killing 3 boys in the process. Old Claudia gets Gretchen from 1953 and brings her Adult Claudia in 1986, to prove that time travel is real and that she’s really Adult Claudia’s older self.
Both Claudias will abandon Gretchen with Regina in order to pursue time travel and supposedly save Regina. It doesn’t occur to any Claudia, ever, to actually be a mother to her daughter, which is why I question her motives.
Claudia abandons the dog, the daughter, the lover and the father. She kills the daughter and the father and leaves the lover to die in the apocalypse. This is not a woman who will devote eternity or destroy worlds to save someone. This is an obsessed scientist who is devoted to solving a problem and needs an emotional flag to keep her motivated through the tough times.
The writers can retcon the character they created. That’s their prerogative and TV shows do it all the time. But this is the Claudia they created. She doesn’t move heaven and earth for Regina. She moves them for science.
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Hey, remember that time that Bartosz decided to get in on the Back to the Future action, so he put on Christopher Lloyd’s duster and went to rescue Martha from getting killed by Adam? I know it was about 9k words and 110 years ago, but I promise you, that did happen. After 3 seasons of Claudia trying to save Regina and Jonas trying to save Prime Martha and Noah trying to save Charlotte and half of Winden trying to save Mikkel, and all of them failing, all the time, plucky little Alt Teen Bartosz jumped in and rescued Alt Teen Martha.
I knew I liked that kid, And his older self, too. In fact, I think he’s the chosen one on the 3rd planet that his Grandma is trying to take out of the system in her obsessive quest to ruin everything for everyone, everytime in everyway. That’s why this episode focused on Bartosz’s story and the story of his son, Hanno/Noah. We’ve already spent quite a bit of time on Bartosz’s granddaughter, Charlotte and her family, for 3 seasons. And Charlotte has known all along that she was important.
This episode is kind of its own little season, focusing on a third world/timeline that’s almost identical to the prime world/timeline, so we’ve switched between them throughout the episode. That’s my theory. Time is so mucked up that apparently even the writers can’t be bothered to sort it out anymore, so here we are. I can’t tell you when we were where, necessarily, just that we jumped around a lot without the normal markers telling us what world we were in.
Also, I think the HG Tannhaus time machine world, which I’ve been calling the 3rd world, is a 4th world, that’s not Bartosz’s world. As I said, Bartosz’s world is so close to Jonas’ and Eva’s that it blends with theirs, so it doesn’t get the widescreen black bars at the top and bottom that HG’s world does. HG’s world/timeline has some significant differences from the other 3, so it looks different on screen. That will be explored more in episode 8.
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Okay, so. Our plucky boy hero, Alt Teen Bartosz, convinces Martha to leave Jonas in his house, so he can live in his mom’s basement forever like the loser he is. She goes back to Erit Lux with Bartosz instead.
One poof of awesome gold glitter later, and we’re there. Those paintings are still scorched and I’m sorry, I still can’t spoil how it happens. Truly annoying, I agree. The writing and editing for S3 are meant to f–k you over, but I doubt they meant for it to indecipherable rather than mind blowing. 3 episodes worth of teasing when the paintings burn? Really? And then all of the scorched painting scenes look so alike that it’s nearly impossible to put them in order, though I’m not sure why we would care enough to go back and try, when it’s all said and done. I know I don’t. Somebody didn’t think that one through.
Martha wonders why Bartosz brought her there. He tells her that the Marthas are the only ones who can save them, because they are the Light. Martha realizes she’s in the hands of an Erit Lux true believer, though she has no idea what that means.
You know what? I think it mostly means love. I think Old Claudia impersonated Eva when she brought Hannah to be murdered by Jonas. I’m going to singlehandedly exonerate Martha/Eva of this crime, for my own sanity’s sake, and go on with my life. Readers, you do you and believe whatever you want. I can’t work with a meaningless world. What would be the point? I know they’re going to continue with Eva pushing apocalypses and whatever, but I’m going to believe that she at least loves her little family of followers, even if she doesn’t show it, because I need Martha, or someone, to be a good person in order to continue writing.
And the madness continues, as Eva enters the room. Martha says something nasty to Eva and Eva says they’re more alike than she thinks. Then she gives her version of Adam’s patented “You’ll grow up to be just as bad as your parents” speech, before pulling out a dirty machete and swiping it across Teen Martha’s eye.
She tells Martha that she can’t tell all of the Marthas apart anymore unless they have festering wounds to go by. But Adam is the one who’s trying to kill her. The disfiguring wound is a reminder that things can always get worse. Choosing Jonas/Adam’s side means choosing death, while choosing Eva’s side, which is ultimately her own side, means choosing life.
This is strange reasoning for someone who’s main motivation is protecting her son- if Martha doesn’t choose Jonas sometimes, the Unknown is never born, because this is the version of Martha that brings him to the Alt world.
There’s really no way to spin what Eva’s says into something that makes much sense. They just wanted to squeeze in more mirroring of Adam/Jonas’ scenes.
I can put a meaningful spin on it, but I’m pretty sure this is coming from me, and not the show- in real life, the underlying reason for the slash would be to make Martha unattractive to creepy old men like the ones Jonas becomes. The road to women’s accomplishments is paved with women who fell by the wayside because they couldn’t take the sexual harassment, even rape, from their male colleagues anymore and were driven to quit the male dominated fields they worked in. And the women who got married and pregnant, giving up their careers.
By taking away Martha’s perfect features, she takes away her attractiveness as an innocent young woman to both Stranger and Adam. If they want her, they will have to deal with more than just Young Martha’s pretty face and apparently neither of them are ever inclined to do so. Adam collects other young women instead, until he finds a replacement Young Martha Eve to torture to death for tempting him into sin.
Yet God and Lucifer both still refuse to take him back.
Unfortunately, Martha/Eva didn’t realize Prime Claudia was also her enemy. As far as I can tell, Alt Claudia was actually working for/with Eva. Prime Claudia is the megalomaniac who took over the universe.
I suspect the creators just wanted to throw in one more senseless, sadistic action against a main character for shock value, plus they needed Martha/Eva to mirror Adam’s disfigurement, but sexism stops them from making her as scarred as Adam.
Time to take the Wayback Machine over to the end of episode 6. Adam has the other Alt Teen Martha dressed in the only rapey white slip he had left after 66 years of kidnapping and torturing women. He’s tied her to some Faye Wray scaffolding under the enhanced God particle. The God particle is turned up to 11 and it’s incredibly excited to finally be turned loose.
Martha’s yelling for mercy and Adam is excited to finally be getting somewhere in his life’s work. He’s pretty sure he’s never used an enhanced God particle to kill the love of his life and his own child inside the womb before. Surely this ultimate human sacrifice will do the trick and Time will finally be satisfied with him.
A portal opens up above Martha’s head. Then the God particle finally escapes its enslavement, mercifully taking Martha and her unborn child with it. Time has always had a fondness for her.
The cloud and the woman disappear. Jonas assumes they’re dead, because he has so few brain cells left.
I sincerely hope that Martha is in a world outside the Dark universe, with better writing and no white slips. Women actually die in the clothes we’re wearing- we don’t change our clothes when we find out murder is on the schedule, or keep a special victim dress on hand for the occasion. I f–king loathe the sight of those things. “Time to die or be abused, little girl. Here’s your pseudo-virgin gown to remind that you’re ultimately powerless.” Where is the corresponding male attire?
Jonas waits to disappear, too, but he doesn’t. He’s dumbfounded. Life is so unfair. Why does Martha get to die, but he doesn’t?
I wouldn’t mind if he eviscerated himself to see if it would stick.
A moment later, the door to the control room creaks open and his other nemesis, Old Claudia, who Noah killed on his orders almost a century ago in chronological time, walks in.
“Hello, Jonas.”
I’ll give her credit for knowing how to make an entrance.
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Martha on her way to Oz- You can see Martha is getting transferred up into the cloud. The upper right part of the cloud shows a bright light and the opening to the next reality. 
Commentary
The God particle has literally never killed anyone on this show, much as Jonas has clearly tried to get it to kill him. The dark matter/Cesium 137/cloud/goo/cosmic egg transforms, it doesn’t just cease to exist. In fact, nothing in the universe ever just ceases to exist. Everything either transforms or transfers to a new location. That’s basic physics. In this case, there’s nothing left behind, so it goes somewhere else.
If Dark is following its own rules, then Time took Martha somewhere, probably to Bartosz’s world. It would make sense for this to be a way to create a new connection through time and space, maybe connecting the 3 worlds together. But we’re in the Endgame and the rules no longer apply.
If they ever did. It’s retcon time.
Next episode, we visit the Biff World of Claudia’s mind. Don’t look her directly in the eye and don’t take your hand off your valuables. Actually, that sojourn in the Old West 19th century was probably more fun than anyone realized at the time, even without antibiotics, since there was nothing Claudia or Biff wanted there.
Too bad Adult Bartosz wasn’t able to get the car he was fixing to fly- or was he???? Maybe there’s a world where instead of showing Hannah to her room, he grabbed her, Noah, Silja and Agnes and drove away as far and as fast as he could. Parts of early 20th century Northern Africa seem nice. Or maybe they took the God particle forward 50 years, then went to live in the south of France.
Wait. I just realized. Bartosz is in the Harry Potter world. He’s Mad Eye Moody! Constant Vigilance!
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Kill the Origin or Find Another Timeline?
I bolded the first half of HG’s speech from the graveyard because it fits both his point of view and that of his protege, Jonas, who spends 66 years trying to go back to the origin point and bring back something that’s lost, whether it’s Mikkel or Martha. For HG, it’s Marek, Sonja and Baby Charlotte. But the second half of the speech is equally important:
“If our life is defined as everything between birth and death, it exists there, ad infinitum. Could we succeed in cheating death by finding a way to bring back life, there, between time?”
The episode takes its name from the bolded phrase, between time. The 3rd world is formally introduced in this episode. The 3rd world is the Time/Eternal Recurrence that is between the other two Times/Eternal Recurrences that we’ve been watching. What HG is really saying is, in this multiverse full of infinite possibilities, could he find another timeline where things worked out differently for his family? Could he jump to that timeline and live happily there? Or is he hoping to meld the two timelines- bring that Marek and Sonja home to this timeline? It’s not clear.
This is echoed in Stranger Jonas’ speech from S2Ep1, explaining that he is both infinite as part of the multiverse, but also finite as himself, the single soul known as Jonas:
“You could say that I exist infinitely. I’m here now. And I exist for every second between my birth and my death. I’m always Jonas. I’m the same as I was and yet not the same. Just as you’re not the same person who came through that door about an hour ago.”
No matter where or when he goes, what he does, or what he looks like, he’s still Jonas. At first, Hannah still wants the Jonas who left a few months ago, but she quickly accepts Stranger as her son, just as she accepted the proto Adam she met in this episode. In S2 Stranger was grateful for her acceptance, then, in a supreme act of hypocrisy, rejected her when he learned she’d cheated on his father one time before Michael’s death.
The next time they meet, in this episode, he murders her, either because she’s served her purpose in his plans or because she’s kind to him at a time when retaining his strength requires removing all human warmth from his life.
He is still Jonas, but he’s changed everything about himself, from his looks and dress to his demeanor to his home time period and way of thinking. He is no longer trying to save his loved ones. He is now trying to find the origin moment and destroy it. He’s redefined saving as destroying and convinced himself that saving himself saves everyone else. Maybe when he finds the origin moment and changes it, it will set both him and the God particle free from their enslavement. He is now enslaved to a life he can’t bear to live.
Gustav taught him a prophecy of a Paradise that was a dream filled with beauty and light, the Heaven or Ascension of so many religions. Jonas turned it into darkness as an absence of light, where he would remove the cancer that caused his pain (in the form of the God particle, which is the true knot) and kill the patient (himself) at the same time.
In his scenes with Hannah in this episode, Jonas’ true state is laid bare. During the time between 1890-1920, he is a 4th Jonas, Lord Death, with his facial scars meant to look like a skull.
In other words, maybe he’s made some sort of Ghost Rider deal with the God particle, but there are no flaming skulls involved. Just a pact to get out of this world together. That would explain the way they are bound. No one else seems to share quite the same relationship that he does with the God particle, Time and Death, not even Martha.
Martha, the Unknown and the God particle are his family. They all disappear at once and the other 3 versions of the Unknown presumably die in the nuclear meltdown. Unknown has time to save himself if he wants to, but he told us he was about to die. Anyway, after Jonas sent everyone else who was with him in 2053 to the past, it must be devastating for him to watch Martha and the God particle leave him behind and alive while they get raptured together.
He’s in a heartbroken, confused state when Claudia appears to tell him another story.
Images courtesy of Netflix.
Dark Season 3 Episode 7: Between the Time Recap- Hanno, Bartosz and HG Tannhaus move to the front of the house as gaps in the story are filled. #DarkNetflix In episode 6, the worlds ended, thanks to Adam's double apocalypse. In episode 7, we meet the new world.
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I guess we'll have to see who they cast as Madeliene cause if they get a 30 year old actress it wouldn't be TOO creepy if there's romantic undertones (although I definitely don't think they'll show anything of a sexual nature) but if she's like in her 40s.. idk. Book Claudia was also found grieving her dead mother so there is the added component of her desire for a missing mother figure. Is show Claudia going to see her as a sister to replace what she views Louis as her brother? I think we assume there is no romantic component to her relationship with Louis cause he's gay but I don't think it would be out of the realm of possibility if there was still some hint of that on Claudia's side.
Its also kinda interesting right before they all get arrested by the cult, Claudia tries to get Louis to leave with her and Madeliene, which Louis responds to by saying no he can't go back to the same setup as they had with Lestat yet Claudia says it would be different. Idk in the show if that'll mean she believes it would be more equal because they won't have this overbearing patriarch and there is no sexual component to any of their relations to each other?
it dont rule out amc claudia having those oedipal feelings neither but so far what ppl seen in the show is: 1) claudia in her diary recalling her turning referring to louis as a beautiful angel like ohh she wonders why beautiful angels would be crying in heaven . her turning scene from her pov is fascinating cuz it looks like louis tried to turn her ?? the bizarre frantic c section vibes of it all. anyways. and 2) after following louis & grace claudia believes her purpose was to be louis’s sister, not lover, so maybe thats why ppl take the platonic interpretation on her end?? idk . louis needs to see claudia as his sister, his knight, his daughter, to keep himself emotionally grounded. madeline complicates that, the prospect of claudia finding emotional [& other] needs/fulfillment from somebody else unsettles him. louis knows he would not be the central locus of this trio, it would be claudia. and louis may even feel that hes responsible for these 2 girls . recall how show wise he said he didnt do what a man’s ~supposed to~… n in books europe brought his longing to be ~feminine~ to be desired and beloved [likee even more. gah damn girl] . he wouldnt receive that if claudia is the common chord tying madeline & louis, and played a role as to why he chose the cult over claudia’s needs in this moment. i feel that being mindful of the fact that bailey bass is exiting her teens/in her early 20s, a good madeline cast wouldnt be in her 40s per se but be someone who would be close enough in age but also mature enough /has defined features to where the visible difference in maturity between the characters they play physical form would be prominent. like i said maybe they could play up the emotional dependency aspect of things too like claudia wanting a sister, a mother of her own idk idk
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American Horror Story
Dara Ann Lynch
Dara is a medium, expert in both tarot and reading hands, that isn't really a fan of her 'powers' or at least she isn't fond of them at all. Her personality is the thing most of the people are curious of, because she is really secretive and gives that sultry vibe thanks to her low voice; but in reality she is a really down on Earth person, calm, patient and positive half of the time, with some antics that got their way into her after being with Billie Dean Howard for almost such a long time. 
Since her mid-20′s, her clothes and her habits always made her seem older than she was, but all of that is just a combination of Billie's lifestyle rubbing off on her. She also seem to held a secret, but this isn't something anyone can notice.
Dara an Billie met through mutual friends at a cocktail party and ever since they found each other comfortable and overall loved in the presence of each other. They have never addressed their relationship, however, not even when Dara moved from her tiny studio to Billie's apartment after four years into their 'affair'.
Billie tries to put her on her show, but Dara often refuse since she doesn't really like any kind of fame. However, she appeared there a couple of times as an assessor of some sort. She also is specialized in the 'white spirits light'.
During Murder House’s events, Dara accompanied Bilie most of the time, being her like an ‘item’. She is interested in the house, but it scares her to no end and she doesn’t want Billie to go there alone. Nora and her met while Billie was busy helping Violet and Costance, talking to her here and there about what’s going on in the house but also bonding over their experiences.
At some point she takes in her cousin Dahlia, hearing from her about the Roanoke house and trying to talk her out of the idea of going back there. 
From this on wards, Dara and Billie started to see Audrey as their new lover thanks to Billie, also helping her get through the rough patch that was Roanoke’s trauma and becoming quite close. Once Billie and Dara eloped, Audrey remained as a close friend and eventually, she would meet Danielle, one of Dara and Dahlia’s cousins, and started to think she deserved to love again.
Age: 25 (before Murder House, 2010), 30 (Hotel, 2015), 35 (post Cult/Roanoke, 2020)
Birthday: May 22nd
Description: 5'9, with heavy brown eyes and dark brown hair, wavy and styled short (under her chin). She has several moles all over her body but have a couple of beauty marks in her face: a little mole in her lower left eyelid and in the right side of her nose. She also has a double scar that go up her chin to almost the left corner of her lips in two lines, Dara got it when she was a teenager. Her complexion is a bit strong, broad shoulders and strong thighs, and natural tanned skin.
Relationships: Billie Dean Howard (wife), Nora Montgomery (Billie and Dara's lover, close friend), Constance Langdon (acquaintance), Violet and Vivien Harmon (friends), Dahlia Deen (cousin), Shelby Miller (sister-in-law), Danielle and Danna Bishop (cousins), Damien Bishop (niece), Audrey Tindall (Billie and Dara’s ex lover, close friend),  Ally Mayfair-Richards (sister-in-law), Oz Mayfair-Richards (nephew-in-law).
Powers: Mediumship: Sixth Sense, Clairsentience, Divination, White Spirit Light, Empathy (ability of swifting the mood in a room with her own feelings, unknown by herself).
Karina Sväre
Adopted and raised by a Swiss couple, Karina grew up being the eldest sister of four. Since young age she is strongly opinionated and very vocal about social injustices, which gets her in trouble more often than not. During her childhood the only one that seemed to not be backed out by her personality is the youngest McKee, Mary Eunice, and both become best friends.
After Mary Eunice decided to devote herself to God, Karina got terribly mad at her because in her words ‘she couldn’t let some fucking posh hicks ruin her life’ and she was sure her aunt brainwashed her. 
She took that chance to put not only distance between them because she was disappointed with her but also because she was in love with Mary Eunice and didn’t want to hurt her. They kept in touch while Karina was in college trying to become an athlete and afterwards, but when Mary Eunice stopped from replying to her letters it worried her that something could have happened to her.
Karina went back to their hometown just to learn that her friend was in Briarcliff and she set her mind in ‘rescuing’ her from there. It took her a couple weeks to go ‘undercover’ as a new novice, but she never felt more relieved than when she saw Mary Eunice fine. Karina really tried to talk her out of there, telling her that she could help her to escape and that she could live with her if Mary was afraid of going back to her family.
However it only lasted a few days until The Devil took over Mary Eunice’s body and everything went downhill. Karina learned about Kit and Lana and, as much as she wanted to take her friend with her too, she set herself the goal of helping them out as much as possible. As time pass and she sees how much Mary Eunice has changed, Karina start to lose the will that first drove her there, being her sudden death the last straw. Mother Claudia caught her trying to leave and also knew that she wasn’t really a nun, so when she helped Lana flee from Briarcliff the mother superior put Karina as Lana’s guardian so she could get out of there safely. 
Time eventually healed Karina, but she still blamed herself for not being able to help Mary Eunice. She found in Lana a good friend, setting aside her athlete dream to help her with her journalism career. It put her in contact with the second-wave feminism and Karina redirected all her pent up feelings into it, standing up for it and also dedicating her life to it. She never married, but she usually engaged here and there with women (even with Lana, both turning to each other for over the years but always remaining as good friends) and devoted her life to help young girls in need.
Eventually she moved to Michigan’s suburbs, wanting to rest and finally mourn for Mary Eunice’s loss. She became the Mayfair-Richards family’s neighbour at some point and took a like for Ally quickly, being both their emergency nanny for Oz and a friend. During the events of Cult she tried to help Ally with her phobias and talking her through it, being the one to be Ally’s confident during her hospital stay. Karina spent the end of Cult at Lana’s, only coming back to Michigan when Ally called her to ask if she wanted to be her counselor in her political campaign.
Age: 25 (Asylum, 1964), 73 (Asylum, 2012), 77/78/79 (Cult, 2016/17/18)
Birthday: April 4th
Description: 5′7, black long hair when she was young, short when she is old; and green-hazel eyes. Freckled, a little mole under her eyebrow, where she has a scar from her teens when she punched a guy for catcalling Mary Eunice. People used to pick at her for having a more boy-ish complexion and she had some troubles with coming to terms with her body, but as she grew older she started to appreciate herself more. She was going to be an athlete, so even when that goal changed she still trained and was in a very good shape for almost all her life. Karina always had this half-annoyed expression, frown and all.
Relationships: Mary Eunice McKee (former love interest, best friend), Lana Winters (friend, casual lover), Ally Mayfair-Richards (friend, counselor in Ally’s political campaign); Gabrielle Summers (grand-niece).
Raleigh Ocean
Raleigh is a witch the same age as Cordelia, knowing each other since they were 12 or so. She has been missing since 1998, only appearing again in 2013. Coming from a long line of witches with the Future Sight, Raleigh seemed the first one to skip such power but Fiona put a hex on her, triggering that magic, to use her powers for her own benefit. As magic is something that doesn’t like to be contained, the power overgrowth with such strenght that put Raleigh into a trance and made her body flee away without her mind being conscious of it.
After nine years in trance, Raleigh woke up in 2007 to find herself at a sanitorium in Vancouver. After a few weeks awake, her power took over again and repeated the process from the first time after six years just for her body to find its way back to the Academy. During that time, Raleigh saw what was coming and when Queenie and Cordelia woke her up, she begged her best friend to put an end to it. Cordelia, as the years passed by, improved a concoction that would put at ease her friend for short periods of time, nothing ever-lasting; and Raleigh took advantage of that concoction to research for a definitive way to stop it. 
During her new stay at the Academy she forged a strong bond with Zoe, which she took under her wing and became her favourite; and she found herself involved with Misty in only a sexual way that ended turning up in romantic feelings, but they never got to address it due to Misty’s death at the Seven Wonders. Cordelia and Raleigh’s relationship kept growing over their past feelings, still loving the other to pieces but having the situation with Hank and Raleigh’s disappareance as something they couldn’t move past on.
Before the trance, Raleigh was quiet young woman with dark humor, methodic, intuitive (thanks to the dormant Future Sight) and an admirable hunger for knowledge. Cordelia’s happier demeanor rub off and she started to be more open and less anxious when she was around. However, after being on and off of the trance for fifteen years, it’s hard to say that there’s something left from that persona. She became more quiet, shameless thanks to being in pain and being tired; and also sadder and kind of selfish. As much as her body grew, her mind grew up slower, sometimes showing a demeanor of a younger person than she physically is (she may look like 33 but she behave as someone in their early 20′s). Thanks to Zoe, Cordelia and Misty she started to crack that toxic shell, only to be completely broken when she got stuck in the Hotel Cortez with Saly.
Thanks to Fiona’s blood and magic heavily involved in the hex, Raleigh couldn’t kill her herself out of fear that everything could backfire; when Cordelia became the Supreme, she broke unknowingly the hex and gave Raleigh her cue to leave in order to find a way to heal and also a way to help the Coven in what was coming for them. 
She went to the Hotel Cortez to use all the power within its walls to trigger and speed up her Future Sight (now more bearable, only taking her away for days), Sally nursing her and both developing a strong bond with each other. It also helped her to find the right spells and potions to lock the Future Sight. During that time, Raleigh started to grow more powers thanks to being free of Fiona’s hex, which made her powers stop blooming so the Future Sight could burst more powerful at the expense of everything else, making not only her Future Sight but her Elektrokinesis and Power Supression too; but both her new founded telekinesis and Destiny’s Touch are much weaker. 
Raleigh was the one finding Mallory, full knowing she would be crucial for both the Coven and herself, and sent her to the Academy with a hidden memory spell which only could be broken after using Tempus Infinitum. In that hidden ‘memory’, Raleigh explained Mallory what she had to do in order to help her lock her power and apologizing for putting her through all that.
From 2015 to past the Apocalypse, Raleigh spent it all buried in the backyard of Misty’s shack, trapped inside her Future Sight as to not lose her knowledge and see if she could be strong enough to heal herself; but she also saw everything display and suffered from it. She set concealment charms around the patch so none could find her. When Mallory used Tempus Infinitum, it was clear that she needed her to heal, and Raleigh spent three years hidden in Misty’s shack (again) until she herself woke up when both Mallory and her magic locked the Future Sight. That day also marked the day for Madison to come back from Hell.
After that, Raleigh still is a quiet woman but her tiredness and anxiety skyrocketed, making her behave always like she is walking in thin ice. She got more confident than she already was, except when it came to Cordelia and Misty. She knew that she couldn’t have them back, as much as her love for them has reached its peak, so she prefered to have them as friends than not having them at all. It took her by surprise knowing that both still wanted her in their lives as more than ‘friends’ and Raleigh found herself trying to be the best for their sake. It becomes a hard task, but she promised herself that they were the only thing worth to not give up for.
Cordelia put the younglings at the Academy under Raleigh’s care as their History teacher, which helped her greatly to heal and come to terms with what she wanted now that she wasn’t going to leave. Raleigh also becomes a ‘teacher’ for the eldest members of the Coven (Misty, Zoe, Queenie, Mallory, Madison) under Cordelia’s supervision to help them develop their powers since Raleigh’s vast knowledge of magic comes in handy for it.
Cordelia also sends Raleigh to meet with possible witches outside of Louisiana, those which are more in trouble, to use her powers to help them get to the Academy. In one of these trips is when Raleigh meets Wilhemina, which with she has a relationship for almost a whole year before things got serious and the option was obvious: Wilhemina or Cordelia and Misty. With Wilhemina, Raleigh learnt that she deserved not only to be loved, but also respected and after all this time she decided for herself what was best. It all ended with Raleigh and Wilhemina leaving the main house, moving out to the second house the Coven bought to host more students, along with Queenie and Madison.
Raleigh also took a more ‘maternal’ feelings for Mallory, seeing her as the child she could have had with Cordelia and helping her to carry with the burden of the Apocalypse’s memories. Soon she realized that Mallory wasn’t their love child, but Misty and Cordelia’s; only to later see that Zoe, the only one that was there through thick and thin, was the real love child.
When she discovered that she had a half-brother, it made her rethink a lot of things, but in the end she only wanted to spend all the time they had left on that Earth with him, the only bit of family she had left and could fill for her years of void. 
Age: 18 (Academy Days, 1998), 33 (Coven, 2013), 35 (Hotel, 2015), 38 (post-Apocalypse, 2018)
Birthday: May 1st
Description: 5′11, dark auburn hair, shoulder length until 2018, then mid-back length; and brown-hazel eyes. Raleigh has a scar that goes from the left side of her forehead to the right corner of her lips, she also have a couple beauty marks in her right cheek along some other moles in her neck and chest area. When she arrived again to the Academy she was underweight for her height but it isn’t till 2018 that she has a stable weight. She has strong hands and usually a pensive expression, as if she isn’t really there thanks to her power. 
Relationships: Cordelia Goode (ex-lover, best friend), Misty Day (ex-lover, friend), Fiona Goode (frenemy, aunt), Zoe Benson (protégée, favourite student), Madison Montgomery (protégée, friend), Mallory Prince (protégée), Sally McKenna (best friend, lover in 2015), Wilhemina Venable (best friend, girlfriend since 2018, wife since 2032); Eric Ocean-Venable (son); Kaya (neé Ramírez) and Eric Ocean (parents); Rowan Ramírez (half-brother); Coco St. Pierre Vanderbilt (friend, sister-in-law); Abigaíl Prince (aunt).
Powers: Elektrokinesis, Power Suppression, Telekinesis (unlocked in 2015), Destiny’s Touch (able to see and manipulate social links, unlocked in 2015), spellcraft (high ranked), Future Sight (triggered by Fiona Goode in 1997; locked in 2018 by Mallory and herself). 
Cold-hearted Severa (neé Selene Regnault)
Severa is part of Fräulein Elsa's Cabinet of Curiosities, considered as part of the ‘staff’ most of the time but performing here and there thanks to her capuchin monkey, Mr. Mumbles, which knows how to juggle and mostly behave like a human being.
Knowing Elsa from a young age, Severa respect her the most even when she disapprove most of the time her bad behaviours. The older woman took her with her to the States with her, becoming one of her first ‘freaks’. Severa got caught in crossfire, not only mutilating and scarring her for life but also agravating her PTSD to the point of not remembering much before Massimo Dolcefino found her and made her his apprentice. 
Once in the States with Elsa, she learnt english to communicate if necessary but as time passed by she took a like to being in silence, so many think she is mute. Elsa took advantage of this and found her the monkey, becoming like that a mor active part of the show. Mr. Mumbles helped her get better with her PTSD somehow and most of the time she is in charge of the animals at the Freak Show, finding their presence more comfortable than people.
Jimmy and her developed somekind of sibling bond and he respect her highly, always trying to step up for her when in need. Evie and her started to be friend after having an act together, so it isn’t weird to find them together spending time over a cup of tea or a whiskey.
It isn’t till the Tattler twins arrived that Severa didn’t show more emotions, that behaviour earning Severa her nickname. She really is stunned by them and push herself out of her insecure shell to win them. However the twins doesn’t show much interest in her aside of becoming friend and Severa ressigned herself to that, becoming a fierce protector when it came to them.
She isn’t afraid to confront Dandy and over the events of Freak Show, she keeps proving to the twins that she is going to be by their side no matter what. That demeanor makes Bette fall for her eventually, but not Dot. When the show is sold to Chester, Severa refused to act and considered flying away; but she stayed when Dandy takes over in order to have an eye on him in case something happen.
After discovering Mr. Mumbles’ body along Eve’s, she ran to the twin’s tent to check on them. She gets to fight Dandy a bit before being shot too in front of them.
Age: 38/39 (Freak Show, 1952/53)
Birthday: April 1st
Description: 6′4, auburn hair with patches of white hair, waist length; and black eyes (only one). Severa has a scar that covers the right side of her face and goes all over her right shoulder; she doesn’t have any beauty mark now (she had one under her right eyelid) but she has vitiligo. She is tall and slim and her right arm is also missing. All her wounds/scars are from WW II, she was a collateral victim from crossfire. 
Relationships: Amazon Eve (best friend), Mr. Mumbles (best friend), Elsa Mars (saviour), Jimmy Darling (non-blood little brother), Bette Tattler (unrequited love at first, returned feelings at some point), Dot Tattler (unrequited love, friend). 
Adriana Girardi 
Adriana was afflicted by mistake at a party, condemning her to that life. At first she had a really hard time coming into terms with her immortality, but after a few years she decided to migrate from Italy to the States, wanting to start a new life away.
Cunning in all its meanings, Adriana used it to survive and then, through a fianceé she procured herself arrived to the Hotel Cortez. She met James and Elizabeth there, becoming friends pretty quickly with them. Discovering that Elizabeth was also an afflicted like her, Adriana found that maybe she could have a future.
Keeping in touch, even after James’ death, she learned how to find something to live for. Eventually she found someone and she moved in with her, considering in afflicting her too but the woman fell sick and died not long after. It took a toll on her, throwing her into a depressive episode and back at the Hotel Cortez till she got better.
Adriana spent the last decades of the century amassing money, focusing in finding someone that could make her feel whole again, but each year that it passed put her closer to giving up. 
She eventually did, coming back to Elizabeth one last time during the events of Hotel. The woman wanted to put an end to her life, but stayed around as support for her only friend and making some acquaintances with the guests. Meeting Alex Lowe after Elizabeth afflicted her, Adriana start to think of giving another chance to life since the woman looked almost exactly like her past lover and maybe, only maybe, she could get the life she dreamed of.
However it didn’t work at the end and Adriana ended up as the main investor of the Hotel to her dismay, trying to contain the ghosts from time to time, playing cards with James and sometimes getting some drinks with Sally. She also made friends with Queenie, at least in the erased timeline.
Liz will say that she is still around for a certain blonde that appear every Devil’s Night.
Age: 27 (afflicted, 1917), 125 (Hotel, 2015)
Birthday: March 31st
Description: 5′8, long brown hair, styled with californian wicks; and deep amber eyes. Adriana’s beauty mark is placed near the corner of her mouth and another one in her chin. She has a scar that cross her lips obliquely from right to left. Her natural tanned skin faded as the years passed and settled as an olive skin, showing the lack of sunlight. She always has a quick smile quirking her lips but her eyes show how empty she is, lacking any kind of emotion.
Relationships: The Countess (old friend), James March (friend), Sally McKenna (acquaintance), Alex Lowe (unrequited love), Liz Taylor (acquaintance), Queenie (acquaintance).
Dahlia Deen
An intern at ‘My Roanoke Nightmare’ production, Dahlia handled props and ran errands most of the time. She was just trying to pay her bills someway, not finding a job in her career path: biology. Dahlia is a happy-go-lucky woman most of the time, always finding a way to make the people around her smile just with the silliest thing and having an overall positive attitude.
While being there she started to listen voices and seeing ghosts again, her mental health getting worse but also her powers. Dahlia comes from a family known by having mediums but she didn’t want to be like them, like her cousin Dara. She just wants to live a normal life.
Sometimes she helped at the filming location with the actors, but other times she helped at the interview setting, where she met Shelby and became friends with her. Dahlia was always compliant with anything they asked her to do. Audrey and her became friends after the actress helped her through a panic attack, triggered by one of the ghosts there. Dahlia thinks that both Audrey and Shelby could be friends if both weren’t that self-centered, but she is happy that she can have them as her friends.
That was until Shelby played the affair card with Dominic and then she played it with Dahlia, however it seemed that being with her was more than a simple affair. Thanks to that they start this on and off relationship for a little while till she hear Shelby speaking with Sidney about the reboot. Both have a heated discussion in which the blonde woman tell her the truth: that she wanted to get back with Matt.
The only one Dahlia could turn to was Audrey. They got drunk and slept together out of spite, Audrey being in a really low point of her confidence just gave in. Both promissed not to tell anybody and keep their friendship, stronger than ever; even Dahlia attended Audrey and Rory’s wedding, dancing with the bride and all.
When both Shelby and Audrey decided to do ‘Return to Roanoke: Three Days in Hell’, turning a blind eye to Dahlia’s warnings of not going back because she knew something was off with the place; Dahlia called her cousin Dara and stayed with her for the week of preparation.
But when she received a message from a panicked Shelby, she set off as fast as she could to get there and pick her up. Dahlia do arrive on time and Audrey survived, only a gun shot in her arm from Lee. Shelby managed to make it alive too, but she lost a lot of blood and is really weakened. 
They three try to keep going, but obviously Shelby and Dahlia have a lot to talk too before being able to be in a healthy relationship. Eventually, they engaged a few years later and started to live together, moving to a better future for both now walking hand in hand.
Age: 28 (Roanoke, 2015), 29 (Roanoke, 2016), 33 (post Cult/Roanoke, 2020)
Birthday: May 5th
Description: 5′10, dark brown hair and brown eyes. Dahlia is of strong built thanks to her rutine. She needs glasses to see. She has a scar in the middle of her nose and another one in her jaw, both from an incident she had as a kid. She has a beauty mark under her lower lip and another one in the right side of her nose. Her dimples are her signature mark.
Relationships: Shelby Miller (fianceé), Audrey Tindall (best friend, sister-in-law), Dara Ann Lynch (cousin), Danna and Danielle Bishop (cousins), Damien Bishop (niece), Billie Dean Howard (sister-in-law), Ally Mayfair-Richards (sister-in-law), Oz Mayfair-Richards (nephew-in-law).
Powers: Mediumship of some short: Sixth Sense, Clairsentience (both suppressed by antidepressants) 
Gabrielle Summers
Coming from a big family, Gabrielle always felt like the outcast of it. 
Moving from that, dropping out of college made everything worse at home with her father: a heavily old-fashioned man that’s been controlling her life in ever possible aspect. Not only her suffer of this, but also her mother till the point in which she just flee letting the divorce papers over the kitchen table.
After this, everything got worse and worse and Gabrielle took all what she had and ran away from Phoenix to the only place she knew she would be completely safe: her great-aunt’s house in Michigan.
She always heard and knew stories about her, how she devoted to help the youth and how much of an outcast she was too; that’s why she dug up in her grandpa’s dresser to find whatever address he had of her before buying a plane ticket.
Gabrielle showed up in summer of 2016 at Karina’s doorstep. Karina knew every one of her brothers and sisters’ offsprings, so it took her by surprise to find the young woman in Michigan. Upon hearing about what Gabrielle left behind and why she was there, Karina took her in without much question. After that they both tried to sort some stuff out to help Gabrielle to start a new life there, Karina feeling like she was having another chance to help her family.
Soon the girl started to show her true colours, showing Karina that they both were pretty much alike but Gabrielle is much softer and gentle than her when she was young. Gabrielle also took interest in Karina’s life, more than before if possible, wanting to get closer to her in someway. Before the events of Cult, pretty much a few days after she arrived to Karina’s house, she met Winter Anderson at the hair salon and some kind of friendship started after having a one night stand.
Gabrielle met the Mayfair-Richards family when Karina babysat Oz, not liking them very much aside of their son, which she helped babysitting. However she starts thinking something is going on between Winter and Ivy after she found them in front of Winter’s house talking.
During the events of Cult, Winter and Gabrielle start to get closer more and more, making the former start to ‘protect’ her from the cult but as stubborn as Gabrielle is soon she picks up in her antics and tries to help her get out of there. At some point Gabrielle fight Ivy, not only because of Winter but also defending Ally (even when the woman is not her most liked person). 
Karina encourage Gabrielle to resume college and help her with it if she decide to do so, since she’s been reading a lot of books and decided she wanted to be a journalist/writer. When Karina offered Gabrielle to spend some time at Lana’s house with her in the end of Cult events, she decided to stay for Winter (her now girlfriend) and get her out of there together finally. 
The day Kai allegedly killed Winter, Gabrielle witnessed it since she went to the Andersons’ house in order to get her and flee. However, she finds that Winter is still breathing and beg to be the one carrying her out of the basement as a last favor. As the rest aren’t paying attention to her, Gabrielle takes advantage of that to escape with Winter and hide in Karina’s house.
Gabrielle and Winter move with Karina and Lana for sometime after that, helping Winter to recover from everything. At the time Ally calls Karina to help her with the campaign, both decide to went back to college and live together not going back to Michigan. They watched Ally’s speech together and when Kai died, both felt as if a huge weight was lifted from their chests.
Her story is somewhat similar to Karina’s but she did manage to save the person she loved in the end.
Age: 22/23/24 (Cult, 2016/2017/2018)
Birthday: May 28th
Description: 5′9, black hair (mid-back length before moving out of Phoenix, really short once in Michigan) and hazel eyes. Slim for her height, but she start to get stronger thanks to Karina’s excercise routine. She is always seen as someone slummy but with a soft smile on her lips, instead of a scowl. Her face features are a bit similar to Karina’s, luckily since they aren’t remotedly ‘blood’ related, but she only have a few of beauty marks instead of being freckled: one near her left eye corner, other under her brow and another in her jaw. Gabrielle has a a scar that mark her across her right eye since she was a child, her cello bow broke and hit her in the face, luckily not taking her eye and leaving only a scar.
Relationships: Karina Sväre (great-aunt), Lana Winters (acquaintance), Winter Anderson (fling to friend to girlfriend), Ivy Mayfair-Richards (dislike), Ally Mayfair-Richards (frenemy).
Rowan Ramírez
Rowan’s story is a bit detached from everyone else, to begin with. After Raleigh disappearance, Kaya tried to rebuild her life on her own and that eventually led to meet a man two years later, who seemed to love her. When she told him she was expecting a child, the man went away over night, leaving her alone.
Kaya found shelter in Abigaíl’s house, an old friend of her family, and there she’d spend the rest of her days. Once Rowan was born, Kaya’s Future’s Sight started to drift more and more, worsening her state as the years went by but the only constant that she didn’t seem to forget was the love for her children. As result of that, Rowan grew up knowing of his long-lost sister and at the same time made him grow up a bit faster than a kid should. But it didn’t make the happiness that he carried inside him go away, it only make it grow more and more, becoming Kaya’s only will to live in the end.
Around 2010, Kaya got completely lost in her power and passed away in her sleep due to a heart attack, leaving Rowan in Abigaíl’s care. Through his childhood, Rowan grew up with Mallory (Abigaíl’s grand-daughter) and the two consider each other cousins and best friends. 
Eventually Behold Chablis was called by Abigaíl herself, since he started to show up his magic abilities in a wider spectrum, and found himself at Hawthorne School for Exceptional Young Men, living among the warlocks as one more. In the beginning Rowan had a hard time adjusting, not having many friends around, but he made room for himself just by demonstrating his abilities. Behold, along John, kept an eye on him in case he developed a late stage of the Future’s Sight as his mother and sister, but both started to not worry when after a few years didn’t seem he was going to get it, trying to help him in improving the skills he already had.
When Michael Langdon arrived at Hawthorne, Rowan saw him as rival, without caring about whatever the rest could say about him. Even more when Michael, using his Clairvoyance powers, started to try and make him take his side by just trying to scare him with every single doubt he had in his mind. But as her mother, and sister, Rowan had a too strong sense of freedom and his own persona to actually fall for that. So the only thing he decided was to surpass him.
This would lead to try to stop Michael when the Hawthorne’s massacre happened. Michael considered in forgive his rival, let him live by his side to watch everything burn to ashes, but Rowan didn’t want to live nor be the companion of Satan’s son. Michael killed him with his own hands instead of his powers, giving him that last respect in his end.
After Mallory restored everything with Tempus Infinitum, Rowan kept honing his skills as warlock and Behold took him under his wing to make him a teacher at Hawthorne eventually. It wasn’t till 2022, when the Council payed the warlocks a visit, that he finally met Raleigh. He, that heard of his probably dead big sister for all his life, froze in the spot and Behold was the only one to act upon clearing his suspicions about the witch. He called Rowan to his office to talk with him about what he wanted to do and the, now, young man just burst into tears after twelve years of not shedding one, telling him that he really wanted to eventually search for her, having it promised over his mother’s grave, and just pull the pieces of what’s left of his family together.
As the years passed by, Rowan and Raleigh grew close to each other, which lead him to spend some months here and there learning from his own sister and he eventually developed a huge crush over Coco, that fortunately ended up in them starting a relationship.   
Age: 13 (Coven, 2013); 22 (post-Apocalypse, 2022)
Birthday: May 12th
Description:  5′10, dark auburn hair, mid-back length; and green-hazel eyes. Rowan shares the same tanned skin as his sister, Raleigh, but the only difference is that the only scar he has is in his left brow from where he hit himself with a stone window border when he was a kid. He’s a tall man, but his frame is narrower than his sister, making him thinner just by constitution. Rowan always carry a happy demeanor, soft smile always tugging at his lips. He also have freckles here and there, making up for all the moles Raleigh has but they have the same one up in their cheek.
Relationships: Kaya Ramírez (mother); unknown father; Raleigh Ocean (half-sister); Wilhemina Venable (sister-in-law); Eric Ocean-Venable (nephew); Coco St. Pierre Vandelbit (friend, girlfriend since 2027); Mallory Prince (cousin, best friend); Behold Chablis (teacher, guardian, colleague since 2022); John Henry Moore (teacher, colleague since 2022); Abigaíl Prince (guardian, aunt); Michael Langdon (rival).
Powers: Hydrokinesis, Atmokinesis, Telekinesis, Deflection (can deflect others powers, but not making them disappear), spellcraft (high ranked). 
Danna and Danielle Bishop
The story of these two is long in their own parted ways.
Born in a large loving family of ‘mediums’ as the oldest of the new generation, the twins grew up as pillars for their cousins, especially Dara and Dahlia, which respect them as much as they were their older sisters. 
Danna was always the happy-go-lucky one, mischievous, hot-headed at times and having a plan for everything except what she was going to do in the future. More like the party girl, the outgoing twin that was always ready for everything and nothing.
Danielle, in exchange, was the more down on Earth of both, her life goals clear and probably the overachiever of both twins. She was going to be a lawyer, she was class president, the whole nine of the studious one plus being the more maternal one of both.
Despite their differences, they were always side by side, even when they did argue (and still do) a lot. None loved Danielle as much as Danna does, and the feeling flows the other way too. But before they started college, they had a big argument and it made them split to follow what their hearts wanted.
For Danna, life took a chaotic spin that she took gladly and followed the path that revelead itself before her. She skipped college altogether but manage to get in a chef’s school somehow later than intended. She wasn’t the best at studying but her passion for food and enjoying herself made up for it, taking her to decide she was going to enjoy her life as much as she wanted. While she was at it, at some point, Danna met Audrey and had a brief relationship while the latter was trying to do castings and get big in the States. They met at New Years Eve of the first year of Audrey in the States, and they parted when the summer hit and Danna decided to start travel to keep honning her skills and because better offers were made to her. She kept travelling, living, enjoying herself until she fell ill and had to go under heart surgery, which brought the twins together again and promise each other they won’t ever part. Danielle and Danna kept in touch, she even visited her sister in Canada for some time, until Danna’s life took her to Michigan and met Ally there. Eventually, Danna and Ally became friends and one thing led to another and maybe the Senator taught the crazy twin that maybe it wasn’t a bad idea to finally settle.
For Danielle, every spin was carefully calculated and her attitude took her wherever she wanted. Fresh out from lawyer school, she landed a job in Canada and moved there to start a her new life. It was pretty normal though, she eventually got married to this other lawyer, their life going smoothly and soon finding herself about to have a baby that, after too many troubles, was born healthy. After that things started to went downhill for Danielle, which for her started with Danna’s heart problems not long after Damien was born and then went on and on for years until she divorced her husband. When that happened, Danielle took the best decision for her daughter and her, which was moving back to the States to be close to their family and start a new life. For her was easy to slip into ‘work mode’, which was the easiest way for her to not think about how she maybe wasted some of her younger years being too worried but she had the will to keep going on in the for Damien. So with all this turmoil, she packed up their stuff and flew home for Christmas with a broken heart and soon to be an annoyed teenage daughter.
That way, the twins reunited finally together not only both of them, but also with Dara and Dahlia, which were there with their arms open for her to fall and cuddle.
However, that same Christmas, Danielle met Audrey at the big family gathering and maybe they found in each other what they were truly looking for.
Age: 40 (Cult, 2018), 42 (Roanoke/Cult/Murder House, 2020)
Birthday: May 20th
Description: 6′, black hair + white hairs, past shoulders length (both); and light brown eyes; Danna and Danielle are quite similar, making difficult to tell who is who from a bit afar, but up close the differences are visible: Danna is a bit plumper, Danielle a bit bonier; Danna has always a permanent happy demeanour, Danielle gets a more serious one; the way both have moles here and there, but Danna has a specific one near her eyelid while Danielle have it almost in the tip of her nose; Danna has more ‘happy’ lines in her face while Danielle have the ‘stress’ lines; being quite tall, Danna always fight that she’s the tallest because she walks a bit more care-free than Danielle, but there’s barely any difference; and, of course, they are tanned like Dahlia and Dara, and pretty much everyone in their family. They also have their share of scars, but the important ones are: Danna has a big ass scar in the middle of her chest from heart surgery, while Danielle has a vertical c-section scar. They both have some similar traits, like having a good heart and being quite the jokesters, but as I said before they grew to be the balance of ‘happy go-lucky gentle woman’ and ‘serious yet tender woman’.
Relationships: Dara Ann Lynch (cousin), Dahlia Deen (cousin), Shelby Miller (sister-in-law), Billie Dean Howard (sister-in-law), Ally Mayfair-Richards (Danna’s girlfriend), Audrey Tindall (Danielle’s girlfriend, Danna’s past lover), Damien Bishop (Danielle’s daughter, Danna’s favourite niece).
Powers: both have some sort of Mediumship, mostly the Sixth Sense, but they aren’t bothered by this because it never got serious to them as with Dara or Dahlia. They feel the ‘bad jujus’ as Danna say, and she’s the only one of the two that actually think the ‘Mediumship’ in their family is real. Danielle just doesn’t vibe with it but she respect it.
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Astrid Winters
Growing up in Skagway, Alaska, Astrid lived a pretty normal life with her parents, Sven and Dinah, and her older brother, Isaiah. Most part of her childhood was spent running around the decks with Isaiah, always at his tail as if he was a comet, and being loved by their parents. It wasn’t until she was eleven that her mutation flourished completely, using her telekinesis to save Isaiah from falling into the ice cold water of the port.
At first she was confused about it, but after her brother’s mutation was presented as well as a control of psionic energy, they drew attention from the ‘Jean Grey School for Gifted Youngsters’. Their parents weren’t mutants so the shock came in pretty hard, however they were supportive of their children nonetheless. Isaiah, as they grew to control their powers under the institution, started to resent having them at all since he was old enough at the time to remember how their mother left them in the care of the Winters, quickly discerning that that was the true motive behind both being abandoned like that. Astrid tried to persuade her brother that now they had somewhere to fit and belong, but Isaiah only went on with it even when he excelled with her powers while Astrid only had trouble with hers.
It wasn’t until Isaiah was sent to a mission with some others for some time that Astrid managed to get a grip of her mutation…but discovering, along the way, her telepathic powers which were much stronger than those she thought were her primes. Ororo took her under her wing right away, being reminded of Jean’s powers and the shadow of her best friend still hunting her to this day, and started to train her so she didn’t end up like Jean.
However, Isaiah never came back from the mission and sent Astrid into a spiral that made her unable to control her powers at all. In that haze, messing even more with her weakened psique, she decided to escape the school, wanting nothing else but runaway from what took away her brother. She managed to go back to Skagway, into her childhood home, and was taken in with all the bad news, memories and grief. All of that was enough to block her powers, creating some sort of bubble surrounding them and locking them away for the years to come, greatly helped with antidepressants and other pills that muted the buzzing feeling of her powers trying to come up. None came looking for her, as if she just vanished even from the view of Cerebro, and that helped to her hiding a great deal.
Six years later she would met Bobbi, who was in an undercover mission for S.H.I.E.L.D in Alaska, and during the months she was stuck in Skagway they developed feelings for each other being just them, without telling the other their real truth. It wasn’t until Bobbi got discovered while being with her that Astrid’s powers didn’t flourish again, destroying a great part of the decks in the process as a result of bottling up everything for so long. That not only put Astrid in the position of telling Bobbi the truth, having Bobbi to do the same as well, but also put her under the X-Men’s radar again. Two days later of the incident, Storm arrives to Skagway to try and coax Astrid to go back with her to the school, which only prompts Astrid to follow Bobbi to the States.
Storm takes that as leaving her alone, but keeping an eye on her from time to time without interfering in her life. Astrid managed to lie low after that in her own, working through the first steps in her and Bobbi’s relationship, but always tries to stay as far away of Bobbi’s line of work as possible. When Bobbi told Astrid how S.H.I.E.L.D had gathered the Avengers, and was starting to be more proactive on searching people with special abilities, it only sent her in panic taking in count her own abilities which only made Bobbi promise to her that she wasn’t going to let them get near her.  
For a few years everything manage to go well, calm even, until the chaos after S.H.I.E.L.D being compromised ensues and, in between all the files that are put up for the world to see, Astrid’s information ends up visible for Coulson’s team. That information was gathered by HYDRA along the years, because they were the ones behind Isaiah’s disappearance and it also uncovered what happened not only to him but also with their biological mother: Emma Frost. 
Astrid was unaware of this, still caught up in the bliss of living a normal life as much as she could, until she got a panicked call from Bobbi telling her what was truly going on and that there were both S.H.I.E.L.D and HYDRA agents going her way, which only made Astrid to use again her powers in order to protect herself from the latter but she decides to be caught by the her girlfriend’s ‘comrades’ is way better than fall into the hands of God knows who they are. 
During the war between S.H.I.E.L.D’s factions, Astrid is kept as a ‘prisoner’ once Robert Gonzales discover the length of Astrid’s abilities and put her under severe vigilance. Astrid is dragged to the Inhuman’s front, trying to help as she can and only making her starting to understand why Isaiah didn’t want to have anything to do with being a mutant and also being very upfront when it comes to the relations between mutants and inhumans. 
Astrid has a major breakdown that make her unstable and Storm have to take her back against her own will back to the school in order for her to retake control of her powers, which went under a secondary mutation due to the trauma upon Bobbi’s kidnapping. There, Isaiah is waiting for her along with Emma, bonding and learning from both her brother and their mother for a few weeks. However she leaves once again everything behind and decides to stay with the team to take care of Bobbi. 
During this time is when Astrid and Bobbi’s first clashes happen, taking in count they spent much more time together and it makes them open up but at the same time let go all of Astrid’s fears. The bottling up only strains their relationship, which makes Astrid to grow more and more tired and hurt - since much of the Inhuman conflict is still affecting her - until she decides that she can’t do this in her current state and tells Bobbi that they need a break. She decides to go back to the school and stays there, honing her powers and finishing her training in order to live the ‘normal’ life she always wanted, as much as it pained Isaiah, Emma and Ororo.
Jemma calls Astrid to tell her what happened with Bobbi and Hunter in Siberia, which leads to Astrid going to get them, making that the point in which both women decide to rebuild their relationship while Astrid finish her own training.
After Astrid finish it, she and Bobbi take their lives to Europe as a married couple, settling there comfortably with some visits from Hunter here and there. Eventually Emma and Isaiah disappear fully, which leaves Astrid broken and confused, but focusing in her life with Bobbi is what helps her get through everything. 
In those years her powers seem to increase little by little until one day Esme, Phoebe and Sophie show up in her door, claiming not only who they were but also what had happened to Emma and Isaiah: both died trying to take down the facility that created the triplets. With the news at hand, Bobbi doesn’t trust them but knowing Astrid’s mental estate isn’t the best allows the triplets to move in with them, mostly in order to restore Astrid’s health and faith in everything.
Being around the triplets only made Astrid’s powers to grow even more, the influence and constant crash of their powers being the principal cause. Little by little, the triplets and Bobbi got along and that was what helped her the most in her recovering. 
When the snap happened, however, it took Bobbi and the triplets away from Astrid, leaving her in the house in a near shocked estate. It wasn’t until Natasha called to Bobbi’s phone, trying to contact any possible agent out there that was still there, that Astrid wasn’t pulled out of that. She went to the compound because she had nowhere to go and stayed there with Natasha until, after a year or two, she became close to Carol through visits and all and decided that there was nothing in Earth for her anymore, following Carol to space.
She found solace there, managed to finally unleash her true potential after being found by Jean in her Phoenix form and eventually the call from the Avengers came. Carol and Astrid went back immediately to help them, arriving in time, and among the million voices in the battlefield Astrid heard Bobbi and the triplets’ thoughts and went directly to them. At first they didn’t recognize Astrid but when her voice boomed in their heads, it was obvious.
After the battle, Astrid and Bobbi decided that this time was truly their time to settle once and for all. Declining Storm’s invitation for Astrid to teach at the School, the triplets go in her place, letting the couple finally go to live their lives back where they started.
Age: 23 (2006, X-Men new timeline); 29 (2012, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S1); 31 (2014, Captain America: The Winter Soldier); 35-40 (2018-2023, Endgame)
Birthday: May 13th
Description:  5′10, dark brown hair, mid-back length in waves; and ochre eyes. For a great part of her twenties she has her hair dyed white, roots showing, and her skin is tanned and freckled, except for some parts in her body that have some sort of discoloration. She always has an eternal soft smirk in her lips and most of the time Astrid keeps a natural upright position, as if it was engraved in her brain somehow, in comparison with her ways of talking, walking and dressing which are more relaxed. She has a distinctive beauty mark in her lower left eyelid and another in her left cheek.
Relationships: Emma Frost (biological mother); Isaiah (Winters) Frost (biological older brother); Esme, Phoebe and Sophie Frost (younger half-sisters); unknown biological father; Dinah and Sven Winters (foster parents); Ororo Munroe (mentor); Bobbi Morse (girlfriend/wife); Alphonso Mackenzie (friendly); Lance Hunter (dislike-friendly); Natasha Romanoff (acquaintance); Jemma Simmons (dislike-acquaintance-friend); Carol Danvers (best friend); Coulson’s team (acquaintances).
Powers: Telepathy (featuring most of her mother’s related powers), Telekinesis and Psionic abilities.
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Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About: Blue Jeans
https://www.vogue.co.uk/gallery/the-history-of-denim-jeans
BY: Maude Bass-Krueger
Before '90s super Claudia Schiffer strode the Chanel runway in double denim, and before Brigitte Bardot slipped into her cropped jeans to bewitch the Cote d'Azur, reinforced blue denim was the chosen uniform of miners, labourers and welders. Well over a century after the fabric was patented by tailor Jacob Davis and wholesaler Levi Strauss, blue denim remains a mainstay of wardrobes the world over.
The word “jean” emerged in the 1800s, and referred to a twill cotton cloth used for trousers, but the textile soon became conflated with the garment it was most commonly used for. Blue jeans, now called “denim”, were originally made from this fabric and manufactured in the French town of Nîmes (bleu de Nîmes). There is still debate over whether the word “denim” is an anglicised version of the French textile, or the French name was given to an already existing English product to give it prestige. By the 20th century, “jean” was the term for a wide range of cotton or denim informal trousers.
Classic jeans as we’ve come to know them – made from indigo-dyed denim with pockets and sturdy riveting suitable for workwear – were patented in 1873 by Jacob Davis, a tailor, and Levi Strauss, the owner of a wholesale fabric house in San Francisco. The copper rivets used to reinforce the pockets were appreciated by miners and other labourers, who complained about frequent pocket rips. Strauss and Davis initially made jeans in two types of fabric, brown duck and blue denim, but the creation of the denim 501 style in 1890 helped the latter fabric take off. Over the course of the decade, design improvements were made: Strauss added a double arch of orange stitching for further reinforcement and to identify them as Levi’s; belt loops appeared in 1922; zippers replaced the button fly on some styles in 1954. But when Strauss and Davis’s patent ended in 1890, other manufacturers were free to reproduce the style. OshKosh B’Gosh entered the market in 1895, Blue Bell (later Wrangler) in 1904 and Lee Mercantile in 1911. During the First World War, Lee Union-Alls jeans were standard issue for all war workers.
Hollywood helped romanticise the blue jean in the '20s and '30s by putting the trousers on handsome cowboy types played by the likes of John Wayne and Gary Cooper. This glamorous new image spoke to consumers who sought casual leisurewear to wear at the weekends and on holidays. Publicity photos of actresses like Ginger Rogers and Carole Lombard wearing jeans helped convince women that the style was for them, too. And in the '30s, Vogue gave its seal of approval, calling jeans “Western chic”. In 1942, the American designer Claire McCardell sold more than 75,000 of her denim “Popover” wrap dresses.
Yet it wasn’t until the '50s that jeans came to be associated with rebellious, anti-establishment youth. Marlon Brando and James Dean popularised the image of the denim-clad teen idol with huge sex appeal; rock and roll stars helped cement the style as cool; hippies and anti-war protestors wore jeans in the '60s and early '70s as a way to show support for the working class; while feminists and women’s lib organisers chose blue jeans as a way to demonstrate gender equity. By the '60s, jeans had come to symbolise the counterculture. Some high schools went so far as to ban them, which only served to further enhance their status
By the late '70s and early '80s high fashion began to take an interest too. Fiorucci’s Buffalo 70 jeans were skin-tight, dark, expensive and hard to purchase – in other words, the exact opposite of the faded bell-bottoms preferred by the younger crowd. They became a hit among the Studio 54 jet set. In 1976, Calvin Klein showed blue jeans on the runway — the first designer to do so. Gloria Vanderbilt introduced her hit jeans in 1979. A commercial success, these designer jeans were marketed with a racier image in mind. In the'80s, Brooke Shields’s provocative Calvin Klein campaign and Claudia Schiffer’s sultry ads for Guess helped give the blue jean a new kind of seductive potential. By the '90s, fashion houses such as Versace, Dolce & Gabbana and Dior had also entered the jean market.
Over the decades, the types and styles of jeans became stratified among groups and subgroups: hip-hop styles of the early '90s were characterised by oversized, low-slung baggy jeans; intellectuals and hipsters turned to dark denim as a way to get back to the style’s roots; pop stars favoured Diesel’s sandblasted and whiskered styles; aficionados paid high prices for vintage Levi’s and hand-dyed Japanese indigo. Today, almost all luxury labels and high-fashion designers have sent jeans down the runway; and they’re available at both ends of the price spectrum, in a multitude of styles: wide, skinny, high-waisted, low, light, dark or coloured. “I have often said that I wish I had invented blue jeans,” Yves Saint Laurent told New York Magazinein November 1983. “They have expression, modesty, sex appeal, simplicity — all that I hope for in my clothes.”
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For cosplay reasons, I need to know who has red hair and looks the youngest in The Vampire Chronicles. (I’m a girl, and I really would like to cosplay as someone. I’m on Queen Of The Darned. And if there is someone, please describe them for me.) Thank you!
We have *~several~* redheaded characters to choose from, anon! Age is relative tho, there’s youngest in actual years, then there’s youngest in appearance.
****Opening my overcoat to reveal the gingers****
The Vampire Armand 
He’s probs your best bet, being the youngest in appearance, he was turned into a vampire when he was 17. He’s one of the main characters and pretty easily recognizable even to ppl outside VC fandom. He’s over 400 yrs old now. Other characters often compare him to the youths in Botticelli’s paintings; so pretty, he mentions that he’s mistaken for being a girl at least once in his mortal life.
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[^Portrait of a Young Man 3., Botticelli, and I think the expression is very Armand, he’s pretty much the sassy teen of the series but as grumpy as an old man]  
I would never be anything but the seventeen-year-old boy you see now… [but] I am not a waif and never have been. I am a strong child. - Armand, The Vampire Armand
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^X @amadeo-child-of-the-renaissance found this, another Botticelli angel Armand, with a face that’s more canon-compliant IMO ;) AR bases Armand off these Botticelli angels and they have varying straight and curly hair, usually wavy at least.Armand’s hair is described as curly when he was mortal and when he was a fledgling, so I think that’s the natural state of it.
Armand can be dapper or grungey depending on his mood, so the crucial aspect is really his hair, and if you want extra credit, you may want to carry a blender around, that’s sort of the fandom joke about him and Daniel going nuts over blending stuff in QOTD.
Here’s some Armand cosplayers (they’re mixed into that link) you might wanna check out ;)
Other redheads in the series… bc I don’t wanna hide the rare VC ladies under a cut! NO CUTS WE LONG POST LIKE MEN
Jesse Reeve
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^I’m not wild about her portrayal in the QOTD movie but anyways… she’s a little over 30 when she’s turned, and it was 1985, so she is technically younger in age than Armand. He will always look younger than her, tho. 
Cosplaying Jesse Reeve would involve smtg about her being a Talamascan, maybe, or carrying Claudia’s diary? She finds it in QOTD.
Maharet and Mekare
^The redhaired twins. You might go to @redhairedtwin​, a Maharet RPer, for descriptions of the twins. 
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^X Maharet (left) and kid!Jesse (right) in the QOTD movie. I headcanon Maharet and Mekare as being younger in appearance than we see Maharet in the movie, but idk right now how old they were when they were turned (I don’t have my books to check either). Early 20′s, early adulthood, I think. Maharet and Mekare are technically the oldest on this list but they might look the same age or younger than Jesse.
Cosplaying one of the twins means a bloody mouth or bloody eyes.
Madeleine
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^poor Madeleine in the the IWTV movie barely had any screentime, she got a little more in the book, but she’s rarely mentioned in later canon. Louis’ first fledgling, made to take care of Claudia so he can go bang Armand move on with his afterlife. She’s a more obscure character, but she’s A REDHEAD SO SHE COUNTS!
If you want to cosplay her, carrying a doll that looks like Claudia, or wearing a locket with a portrait of a Claudia look-alike, that’d be a good accessory ;)
I think that’s all the relevant redheads in VC, but if anyone can think of more, feel free to reblog and add!
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