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nicotinebabysworld · 2 years
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they mean everything to me
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moonybeam3 · 4 months
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Being a marauders stan is seeing an ad for a meal kit service and seeing a 5 second shot of a drummer and knowing immediately that it’s Matt Hitt
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cannibal-rat · 6 months
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Muire D'yaeblen
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Rest in Peace Steve Mackey. You were iconic.
Via The Guardian:
"His wife, stylist Katie Grand, announced the news on her Instagram page, writing:
After three months in hospital, fighting with all his strength and determination, we are shocked and devastated to have said goodbye to my brilliant, beautiful husband, Steve Mackey. Steve died today, a loss which has left myself, his son Marley, parents Kath and Paul, sister Michelle and many friends all heartbroken. Steve was the most talented man I have ever known, an exceptional musician, producer, photographer and filmmaker. As in life, he was adored by everyone whose paths he crossed in the multiple creative disciplines he conquered. I would like to express my heartfelt thanks to all the NHS staff who worked tirelessly for Steve. He will be missed beyond words.
Mackey joined Pulp in 1989, first contributing to their third album Separations. He went on to play on all their subsequent studio albums, including the likes of Different Class and His ’n’ Hers which are regarded as high points in the mid-90s Britpop scene."
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sashicsn · 9 months
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What a silly little doodle of Brett singing 😅
And of course I’ve got the lovely Mat doodle on the side there. 😊
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suedesongs · 12 days
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These Are The Suede Songs 003: The Drowners
1991. The University of London Union Ticket Office. Enter one Simon Gilbert, stage right. Gilbert, a twenty-five year old punk from Stratford-Upon-Avon, has just heard a demo tape from a band, supposedly one managed by, among a couple of other characters, his colleague Ricky Gervais. Gervais was, at this point, working at ULU and moonlighting in a band, as Brett Anderson recalls, called Son Of Bleeper. This was long before he would become better known for his “comedy” - and troubling views on transgender rights.
Gilbert asked Gervais if he could join, to which he was told he couldn’t “because he didn’t have flares and he didn’t have a fringe”.
Thank goodness, he would go on to ask another of Suede’s managers and secured a rehearsal. It would take six months of Gilbert believing he was on a trial period to realise he was officially in the band.
This was monumental in Suede’s musical journey. Gone was the faulty drum machine which would constantly break down, and here was a proper full-time drummer, and the final push to shake off the unpleasant spectre of Baggy forever, and to comfortably slide into something tighter, more violent, sexier. Gilbert’s drumming is melodic and calculated, whilst at the same time booming and tribal. It’s the kind of drumming that fills stadiums, and what a better way to introduce Suede to the world at large than with his iconic drum fill on ‘The Drowners’.
It was around this time, too, that Justine Frischmann would depart the band. Anderson recalls to Dave Thompson that, as Butler was increasingly developing his playing to incorporate both lead and rhythm at the same time, this, sadly, made her feel her place in the band was becoming somewhat redundant. Frischmann herself remarks that it was “better to be Pete Best than Linda McCartney.”
Another reason for her exit was the shift in the band’s musical direction. Frischmann increasingly felt that songs were becoming too long and overwrought. Though she would, fantastically, go on to create short, spiky post-punk with Elastica later in the decade.
On January 2nd 1992, Suede attracted the attention of Saul Galpern, the operator of Nude Records, whilst playing at The Venue in New Cross in a show under the name “On For ‘92”. He offered them £3,132 for a two single deal.
In April of that year, Melody Maker made the bold choice to place Suede on their front cover, proclaiming them the “Best New Band in Britain”. This cover has gone on to gain an almost infamy amongst Suede and their fans. Anderson, in the 2022 BBC Documentary Rock Family Trees: The Birth of Cool Britannia, refers to it in disparaging terms, likening it to winning a competition in school as a child.
However less discussed is the contents of the article itself. Not only were Suede described as ‘The Best New Band in Britain’, but as “the most audacious, mysterious, sexy, absurd, perverse, glamorous, hilarious, honest, cocky, melodramatic, mesmerising band you’re ever likely to fall in love with.”
And this leads us back, finally, to The Drowners.
Released on May 11th 1992 as a double A Side with To The Birds, The Drowners peaked at a not insignificant number 49 on the UK charts at the time of release, however it would later go on to hit an impressive Number 17 in July 2023 for one week as a thirtieth anniversary reissue, albeit in a time when chart positions don’t mean all that much.
Suede would often be touted as some kind of antithesis to the Grunge which dominated the airwaves in the early 1990s, however, The Drowners’ opening chords could, in some sense, be described as “grungy”. They’re hard and powerful and dirty. Not dirty in the greasy-haired grunge sense, but in a way that oozes sex. This is what truly sets Suede apart.
In the Channel 4 Documentary Opening Shot, Everett True, at the time assistant editor at Melody Maker, explains: “the critics loved them [Suede] (...) because they are exactly the same as everything they grew up with. They hark back to an era of rock and roll that critics understand, 1993 down the front at the Hammersmith Odeon watching David Bowie.” I feel that this perspective, whilst it may have some truth to it, is rather an oversimplification and focuses primarily on Suede’s image (cobbled together from charity shops and largely consisting of whatever they could find). Suede only have as much in common with Bowie as any of their contemporaries, it feels like a rather lazy comparison.
Anderson’s vocals have once again assumed new inflections and has a great deal more character, not to mention confidence. Listening to the Rocking Horse Demo, which is a much rawer, grittier take, the first thing that sticks out are, indeed, the vocals. They’re sung in near falsetto, they’re a little girlish and coquettish. Inviting, sexy. If there’s one way that The Drowners can be described, it’s certainly sexy. The rhythm of the guitar line, the pounding drums, the pleading of Anderson’s vocals.
There’s the ambiguity of it all, too, as Anderson describes how “we kiss in his room”. Is this the room of a third party? A male partner? Or is he singing from a woman’s perspective? It’s kept completely open, and this ambiguity is something that will become a theme throughout Suede’s catalogue.
Interestingly, two music videos were shot. One for the UK market by Lindy Heymann, which depicts the band flouncing around a white soundstage intercut with footage of Anderson and an unnamed girl walking around a manky railway bridge in Camden (now a pilgrimage spot for avid Suede fans, complete with an unofficial blue plaque), and another for the US market, depicting a kind of frantic gig scene with fans, real fans, clamoring for a piece of the boys on the stage, before it devolves into a foam party. I feel the latter captures the song considerably better. It's so thrilling, sexy, dirty and primal. It's everything Suede are, and everything that drew me to them.
At the time of writing, this is the song that Anderson uses as his excuse to do his crowd walk, wading through a sea of adoring fans. It's fitting, with the use of the “we” pronoun (another characteristic of Suede lyrics), creating a convivial experience. Whilst the power dynamic between band and crowd will always place the band upon a higher footing, oftentimes literally, at this moment he becomes one with his audience. It's also a chance for Mat Osman and Richard Oakes to really shine.
Although, the production on The Drowners, and Suede’s back catalogue as a whole, I feel does Osman rather poorly. He's a truly accomplished bass player who creates some truly incredible baselines which compliment and tie together the songs so perfectly, and combined with Gilbert’s ferocious drumming, it's truly a match made in rhythm section heaven. The bass, though is so often disappointingly low in the mix, and so can only be heard with the highest quality headphones.
Anderson admits part of this would likely be due to how he listened to music throughout his adolescence, on a cheap sound system which cut out the low tones. The recent remasters rectify this somewhat, but it still rather feels a shame.
All in all, The Drowners is a delightful, sleazy, beautiful introduction to the world of a band who still aren't given the credit they're due.
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stardustxfox · 1 year
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Okay. I have to post. Here's a couple pics from a Suede concert in Austin, TX. Also featuring my stupid face. lol
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ashercries23 · 6 months
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did i scream when i got my Vundabar spotify wrapped message and he said they’re putting out new music? yes. yes i did.
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also the way that i got into three of my top artists bc of marauders, and all of my top songs were of bands i was introduced to during this year. this god forsaken fandom has taken over my whole like /pos
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folksreg · 7 months
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Band of brothers as indie rock albums.
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Richard Winters: everything you’ve come to expect
Lewis Nixon: twilight
Eugene Roe: wiped out
Ronald Speirs: ultraviolence
George Luz: tell me i’m pretty
Joe Leibgott: french exit
David Webster: lovers fevers
Carwood Lipton: tranquility hotel and casino
Buck Compton: drowners
Donald Malarkey: the record
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monstraduplicia · 1 year
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daddy's little girl he broke in thirty: a dean winchester mix
1. abuse me - silverchair 2. adam raised a cain - bruce springsteen 3. alcohol - sisyphus 4. alibis - marianas trench 5. animals - nickelback 6. anyone who knows what love is (will understand) - irma thomas 7. black-eyed - placebo 8. blown wide open - big wreck 9. blunt force concussion - the dirty nil 10. break me - mcfly 11. burn & shine - the posies 12. call of the playground - shudder to think 13. carry that weight - the beatles 14. christian brothers - heatmiser, elliott smith 15. colossus - idles 16. coward's son - the ballroom thieves 17. daddy - korn 18. daddy's daughter - merricat crellin 19. damage control - the dirty nil 20. degenerate - the jesus and the mary chain 21. the devil you know (god is a man) - face to face 22. discipline - nine inch nails 23. don't let the sun catch you cryin' - jeff buckley 24. the drowners - suede 25. father - the front bottoms 26. father and son - cat stevens 27. father figure - george michael 28. father of mine - everclear 29. feel the pain - dinosaur jr 30. fiddle about - the who 31. forgiven - alanis morissette 32. fortunate son - creedence clearwater revival 33. freak - silverchair 34. friends in the sky - the dirty nil 35. fuckin' up young - the dirty nil 36. ghost - sky ferreira 37. girls - the dare 38. good boy - patriarchy 39. hang yer moon - the dirty nil 40. hard times - ethel cain 41. he needs me - shelley duvall 42. i burn - toadies 43. i know it's over - the smiths 44. i'm with you - avril lavigne 45. i need somebody - the stooges 46. infra-red - placebo 47. i woke up in a strange place - jeff buckley 48. judge yr'self - manic street preachers 49. last night i dreamt that somebody loved me - the smiths 50. life becoming a landslide - manic street preachers 51. lightsabre cocksucking blues - mclusky 52. loverboy - you me at six 53. low self opinion - rollins band 54. monster side - addict 55. moodswing whiskey - jeff buckley 56. mr. self destruct - nine inch nails 57. nancy boy - placebo 58. o death - rhiannon giddens, francesco turris 59. oh comely - neutral milk hotel 60. pain - four star mary 61. papa was a rodeo - the magnetic fields 62. please hurt me - the crystals 63. please please please let me get what i want - the smiths 64. prayer - big wreck 65. pretension//repulsion - manic street preachers 66. renegade - styx 67. runnin' with the devil - van halen 68. samarians - idles 69. send the pain below - chevelle 70. sex and violence - the exploited 71. the shining - badly drawn boy 72. simple man - deftones 73. slab - silverchair 74. song against sex - neutral milk hotel 75. story of isaac - leonard cohen 76. (they long to be) close to you - carpenters 77. thoroughfare - ethel cain 78. a trophy fathers trophy son - sleeping with sirens 79. two-headed boy - neutral milk hotel 80. two-headed boy pt. 2 - neutral milk hotel 81. unloveable - the smiths 82. wanted man - ratt 83. the weight - the band 84. western nights - ethel cain 85. what will you say - jeff buckley 86. whipping post - allman brothers band 87. you are a runner and i am my father's son - wolf parade 88. you can't always get what you want - the rolling stones 89. your flesh is so nice - jeff buckley 90. youth gone wild - skid row
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ikbeneenwong · 8 months
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Started listening to suede nine years ago, and the first song I heard was THE DROWNERS. Before this, I was living a life without music, now I can hardly imagine the life without music. I said to Mat that u were the beginning of my rnr life, and he replied with thats sweet. But what's really sweet is seeing you guys onstage: I've heard so many other bands in between, but when THE DROWNERS started playing, all the music I've heard before fell out of the water. I just listened to the songs and did not know much about the history within suede before, but now it is not the case. What I admire most is the young spirit in the 1990s, which is completely different from me even now, full of vitality, valuable and tearful. BA, I initially admired him for the personal style and beautiful image, and sighed after learning about BABB's past. Standing at the node of 1994, looking forward, you said that you did not know how talented u were, even if there was no condition for you to create the music, even if there were so many wonderful British pops before, there was no possibility of giving up this attempt of continuing suede; Standing at this node and looking back, I would like to believe that all people have reached their own HE, even if frustrated, dissolved, restructured, but still have the enthusiasm for the stage, in my opinion BA is very: determined. That's it. I am not a suede focused, nor a BA focused, let alone a rnr focused, but I am very grateful to BA for bringing me these happiness, so I painted him:
HB to Brett Anderson!
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forget-me-maybe · 3 days
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hellooooo lovely ~ for the fantasy ask game: 🧚🏻‍♀️ , 👻 , & 👺 (iphone is telling me this is a goblin. I am not certain.)
oooo thank you for the ask!!!
you and me:
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Fairy- What is something that you get excited about? 
I'm really easily excited it's almost silly. But something that'll always get me going is going to a concert. Doesn't matter if it's a band I know or not, I just love live music.
Ghost- Favorite song? 
Currently: Someone else is getting in by Drowners. I listen to it an unhealthy amount each day (but I'm also the kinda person that'll listen to a song until that one moment when it no longer brings me joy and then not touch it for another 5 years).
Guilt pleasure song: Victim of love by Erasure
All time fave: Famous Last Words by My Chemical Romance (because of REASONS)
Goblin- What makes you happy?  
Cliché but my friends - I've found a bunch of friends that mean the world to me. We all share one braincell and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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syntia13treeman · 7 days
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Case 15.02
My thoughts on:
Case 15.02, the case of "Drowner Ending" or "Enjoy deep sea blues"
Once upon a time, a person drowned. She did not go down easy. She fought for her life with all she had, struggling toward the light above. She broke the surface three times, gasping for air, before the current (or weight or… something else) dragged her down for good, and she died. And then she woke up, still sinking into the infinite abyss, among other corpses.
One Saturday night, that person wandered through an alleyway near The Gladstone Arms, choking on saltwater filling her mouth, relieving her final moments, her death… and the first moments after her death.
One Saturday night, a band was playing at The Gladstone Arms. It was called "Penny for the Well" (object thrown in the water), and the man playing the bass, Luke Dyer is also in another band, "Dredgerman" (one who pulls things out of the water). Both those bands used to struggle, but recently they became very popular all of a sudden.
One Saturday night, one Alice Dyer (one who dies and dies and dies) walked back home from a show through an alleyway, and an unexplained tape recorder sitting on the alley floor turned on just in time to record her meeting with Ms. Drowner (one who drowns and drowns and drowns…).
There is no proof that those three events are connected. There is also no evidence to the contrary either.
RESET: same night, from a different point of view:
Alice had a nice evening with her brother. On her way back home she stumbled onto a woman who was very obviously unwell; the women swayed, and grabbed her, and nearly dragged her down to the floor. The woman started choking; Alice called for an ambulance; the woman stopped breathing; Alice started CPR; Alice got too tired to continue; the woman continued to be dead. Alice noticed a tape recorder, just sitting there on the sidewalk, apparently recording the whole thing. Alice picked it up, confused. The dead woman next to her started talking again. Alice… dropped the recorder run.
And I for one can only applaud her survival instincts. When the dead start talking, it's not time to play hero. She's already done all she could for Ms. Drowner, now she needs to try and save herself.
Here are some random thoughts:
One of the first thing they tell you on a life guard course is this: a drowning person will try to drown you - not on purpose, but because they will grab anything in range and pull it down in desperate attempt to get themselves UP and out of the water. (The irony of it is off course that if you go down, they go back down too. But logic has no sway over a dying mind). Ms. Drowner was drowning. Alice was in range. That is all.
Something something, Ms. Drowner struggling to stay afloat (literally) and going down three times. Her reaching out to Alice in the alleyway. Something something, Luke struggling to stay afloat (financially), reaching out to Alice for help (twice that we've seen already), and now doing well. Is Luke due for the third, final setback? Or is Luke staying up because Ms. Drowner can't?
So we had a second appearance of a random tape recorder. *staring at the tape recorder* *poking the tape recorder* Eh. Eh you. What are you? You're familiar, but do I know you? Are you a returning friend, or are you a new fiend, trying to trick me? What are you doing here? What are you planning?
For no reason at all I think that Ms. Drowner didn't drown out at sea. I think she dreamt of drowning; she dreamt of it every night, waking for brief moments, gasping for air, before falling back down into sleep the abyss. Until one day she woke up with water filling her lungs, not breathing. (It's just something that popped in my head and refuses to leave. Maybe it's because of her final words, about deeps claiming her over land).
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brettyimages · 1 year
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Suede in Gothenburg:
Arrived at the festival just after it opened, met up with Scandi Insatiable friends and began the long wait in the tent. Luckily it was set up with benches for the orchestra so we had a comfy place to sit and eat and wait. The Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra did 90 minutes with various guest singers (famous in Sweden but the only one I knew of was Jose Gonzalez) which was nice but not the main event. As they took their bows we swarmed the barrier and I got a spot near the end of the catwalk, facing side-on towards Neil.
Finally it got to 21:30 and the band came on to TOYBAY - leading me to suspect we were getting a set like the UK tour. I was wrong though as they launched into She, Trash, Animal Nitrate and kept the hits going. From there on it was almost entirely singles, with the exception of By The Sea and Personality Disorder, which meant rare outings for some of the hits that don't make it into the regular UK set like Filmstar and Everything Will Flow.
Brett went for his usual leap off of the stage for The Drowners but unable to go into the crowd, he prowled around the barrier, grabbing hold of my hand towards the end of verse 1 and keeping it for a precious few seconds. His usual mic cable wrangler wasn't in attendance so he had some trouble getting round to the other side.
He started making use of the catwalk at the end of We Are The Pigs, the stamping of his feet reverberating off the hollow floor, then followed up with a lie-down for a stunning By The Sea.
Following Everything Will Flow and Can't Get Enough I was worried that they weren't going to play the song I was hoping for, but then Neil was handed an acoustic guitar and Brett said we were staying in 1999 and he gave his Wild Ones speech about music bringing people together before settling on She's In Fashion. The Suede song that's been with me for the longest and one of the singles that has evaded me at live sets back home where they never play it. It was lovely, magical, a big check off of the wishlist.
So Young, Metal Mickey and Beautiful Ones signalled the end and I assumed there was to be no encore - there were no songs left! - but the lights stayed down and they reappeared to play Saturday Night. Brett strolled back down the catwalk and faced my direction to sing "sat there in a black chair, office furniture" to me. I didn't have an arm outstretched to him but he reached out for me and I stood on tiptoe and reached as far as I could, missing him by mere millimetres as the both of us tried to make a connection, him avoiding grabbing onto the hands of the people beside and behind me vying for his attention until it was clear he wasn't going to get to grip my hand again. Devastating, but still so special to be chosen by him despite the impossibility of his goal.
All too soon the 90 minutes were up and we all dispersed into the night, the wild afterparty becoming just a quiet drink. It feels strange not to be doing it all again tomorrow but thankfully I only have to wait a week to do it all again.
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kenobihater · 2 years
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On Lambert and Power Structures
Disclaimer that parts of this are speculative and up to interpretation. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions etc. etc., it's just I read a fic a while back that was SO out of character in my eyes that I needed to sit down, figure out, and type up what my views on Lambert and power structures actually are.
Lambert is above all things pragmatic, and because of that I do not view him as trusting very easily considering the shitty world he lives in. It just doesn't make sense to trust very many people when you've been burned before, and boy oh BOY has Lambert ever been burned! Because of that, it's only logical for him to not be overly trusting of others, and it makes even less sense for Lambert to trust institutions, which can lack the sense of morality or the code of ethics that a person might have considering they aren't people, but structures.
Institutions (whether the underworld, the gov't, the Church, or the witcher schools) consolidate power in a way that is virtually impossible for a single individual to replicate. This consolidated power is in the hands of flawed people, and oftentimes in the world of TW3, the flaws run deep. Whether those in charge crave influence, order, or wealth, it often leads to an abuse of power or some form of immorality in order to achieve their goals (e.g. almost everything the crime bosses do, both Radovid and the Church scapegoating mages and nonhumans, and all the ways the witcher schools hurt their trainees).
Another reason I think Lambert would be hesitant to trust power structures is that these institutions that exist can also take on a life of their own, meaning he couldn't just cut the head off the snake if the institution is corrupt and expect everything to fall apart immediately like he could with a single individual or even a small group (Karadin's band, for example). Yes, there are influential representatives for each individual power structure that are important to ensure they retain power (the crime bosses, the monarchs, the Hierarch, or the mages and instructors for the witchers), but when said individuals are killed or deposed, the power structure itself often endures in one form or another, even if it's diminished. That is, unless the entire power structure is taken in one fell swoop, as happened in the Sacking of Kaer Morhen. Not all of the wolves died, but enough important cogs in the machine were killed that the metaphorical wheels could no longer turn and the process of creating new wolf witchers was ended.
Lambert is likely familiar with how corrupt the underworld, the governments, and the Church are, though we get no information on his views on these structures. The easiest way to extrapolate his thoughts on institutions as a whole is to look at how he views his school. Lambert is painfully aware of the bloody history of the Wolf School, of how it as a power structure perpetuated a cycle of abuse by subjecting trainees to violence and death, and encouraged them to bring back more boys while out on the Path to traumatize in turn for the greater good of the Continent. Witchers serve an important role, a fact Lambert is undoubtedly aware of. That doesn't justify the abuse, experimentation, and senseless deaths that countless children were subjected to. Those two facts can, and should, co-exist.
Lambert is not the kind of man who would want to reinstate the power structure of the witcher schools. The way I read Lambert, he would NEVER sacrifice the well-being of children in order to ensure some country bumpkin doesn't die by drowner. He just wouldn't. He hates the legacy of his school, as evidenced by the many, many times he tells us in game. For example, at the beginning of The Final Trial, he comments to Geralt that he wishes the Salamandra assassins had torn down the rest of Kaer Morhen, the closest thing he has left to a home. If he's willing to give up the safety that Kaer Morhen provides him and his brothers during the harsh winter months just so the school can symbolically end, he must truly despise the place. Another example from the same quest is when he reminds Geralt that not everyone made it through the Trials, that many died, and that they were also taken against their will. Finally, when he learns that Yen is going to perform the Trial of the Grasses on Uma, he reacts with enraged disbelief, and a few lines later he clearly states that the secrets of their school have been forgotten, and that's how he thinks they should stay.
All of these bits of dialogue from Lambert add up to the indisputable fact of his view on his school as a whole: that the systemic violence and cruelty that young children were exposed to far, far outweighs any good the school may have caused by existing. The Wolf School ending is the lesser evil in Lambert's mind. Taking his opinion on his own school and the systemic violence it enacted into account, I'd be willing to bet he doesn't like the underworld, the governments, or the Church, either, considering they also often use their power to enact violence and oppression onto people.
I think Lambert can be a tough nut to crack characterization wise, but to ignore both his canon views on his school and his possible opinions on power structures as a whole that are discernible from said canon views does a great disservice to him as a multifaceted character and undermines the way his worldview was immutably shaped by his trauma. Thank you for coming to my TED talk <3
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woundthatswallows · 10 months
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what's your favorite Suede song? do you like any other britpop bands? (sorry im kinda new to your acc i just like Suede and im glad to find a fellow Suede enjoyer haha)
hmm fave song by them that's hard.... but it's gotta b the drowners!! my other top two faves by them after that are probably animal nitrate and the wild ones! and yess i absolutely do like other brit pop bands :) lush + pulp + oasis are some of my other fave britpop bands. (ik lush is like often a debated britpop band but) i used to like blur but now they annoy the absolute shit out of me lol 🖤🖤but i'm a suede girl first and forever 🫶
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