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no but i think there's something to be said about frost being an artist and caitlin being a scientist. i don't know what the something is but it makes me weak in the knees. like. caitlin being this repressed, logical, dutiful woman? frost being this funhouse mirror of everything caitlin built for herself, everything she is? and then how many times they call attention to caitlin liking pink things, and frost's love for blue shades- pink symbolizes love, compassion, nurturing whereas blue symbolizes freedom, imagination, loyalty. JUST. i'm not making sense, but, listen, listen to me
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the-feral-gremlin · 7 months
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back at it again with another ship game ask. what kind of dates do you think killersnow would go on?
I think Frost would take Caitlin to either a science museum or something like that. And Caitlin would have Barry run them over onto a roof for a picnic under the stars.
[from this ship ask game]
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shrinkthisviolet · 3 months
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character ask game for Iris and Caitlin? :)
Iris
Sexuality headcanon:
Bi or pan!
OTP:
Westallen 🥰 I also love Westhallen, Snowest, and Barriscowest!
BROTP:
Iris & Cisco 💞 sunshine twins for the win
NOTP:
Iris/Eobard, Iris/Snart
First headcanon that pops into my head:
Iris is a decent singer, but she hates singing solo. She loves singing with Barry 💞
(She misses him so much when she loses him 😭 she can hardly bear to sing a single note without him there to harmonize)
Favorite line from this character:
"In this world, the bravest thing you can be is optimistic" words to live by!
One way in which I relate to this character:
I also can't cook very well 😅 working on it though
Thing that gives me second hand embarrassment about this character:
Her Three List. Also the waterfront kiss. I just...*sigh*
Cinnamon roll or problematic fave?:
Cinnamon roll!
Caitlin
Sexuality headcanon:
Bi and/or aromantic!
OTP:
Snowstorm and Snowest 🥰
BROTP:
Caitlin and Cisco! I used to really ship them, but...as time goes on, I ship them less. I don't see them as siblings necessarily, though I do see that vision, but...idk. They're cute as a ship but I mostly prefer them as a brotp lately
NOTP:
Caitlin/Eobard, Caitlin/Wells (any of them). Also Caitlin/KF (I personally love the sisters angle for them)
First headcanon that pops into my head:
Caitlin had a toy doctor set and proudly carried it around everywhere 💞 she used it most often on her dad
(This is in fact me projecting, I miss my toy doctor set)
Favorite line from this character:
"It's not a burden if we shoulder it together"
One way in which I relate to this character:
I'm also a pre-med like her who had a passion for it from a young age!
Thing that gives me second hand embarrassment about this character:
The way she treated Jax in 2x5...yikes. (And the way some people on Tumblr apparently called that "a mom encouraging her son"...double yikes)
Also her stint with Amunet...girl wtf??
Cinnamon roll or problematic fave?:
Cinnamon roll! Though…problematic fave in some seasons (like s4 💀)
character ask game!
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icedteaandoldlace · 3 months
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i often wonder how badly her being kidnapped by zoom relates to killer frost successfully overtaking her. like caity has been kidnapped the most out of any character in the flash, but the time zoom took her was a multi-episode spanning thing and she actually gets to realistically suffer for it for an episode after getting away from him. the ptsd gives her panic attacks and hallucinations. and when kf comes out definitively after after julian tears that necklace off, after another fucking man decides he can choose her life for her, that he's entitled to make her decisions, that he has the right to make her into what he wants her to be. she must have been so tired. it started with her father and it never ended. but if she was a killer, if she was someone else... she would be too cold to ever be touched again. caitlin can just go to sleep while the new girl piloting her body gets to be a god. and the going to sleep forever thing, that's suicide ideation.
tl;dr was caitlin choosing not to fight frost that hard anymore a motherfucking suicide attempt???
Okay, I gotta tell you, it is honestly fascinating getting your take on this because you're such a big Killersnow fan, so there's a lot of emphasis there on them being separate individuals, and I (before the big Frost retcon in later seasons) always saw Killer Frost as literally a part of Caitlin. Like, not just in the sense of sharing the same body, but like, they're two sections of the same mind, just kept separate because Caitlin couldn't reconcile her darkest thoughts and emotions with the rest of her identity, so she buried them deep down where she wouldn't have to deal with them, and then the perfect storm of trauma and stress finally caused them to surface and take over. There is so much in the first three seasons that seems to point to this, most notably Hartley's comment about how she doesn't like emotions because they're messy, and also, YES, the Zoom trauma, which absolutely played a major roll in her frost powers coming out. Like, they stopped Zoom, and then Paradox takes place THE NEXT DAY (it just doesn't seem like it because of time travel and the between-seasons hiatus and a series of scatterbrained writing choices). Dude totally jump-started her powers/Frost surfacing by being a dick and inflicting all that psychological damage on her. This is something I have thought forever.
BUT, all that being said, from season 4 and onward, the idea of Killer Frost being Caitlin's dark side gets chipped away bit by bit, until finally it's chucked out completely, and Frost is now a full-fledged person with her own mind and agency that doesn't involve Caitlin, and as a result, you have this weird continuity issue where season 3 Killer Frost is Caitlin, and Caitlin is the one responsible for stabbing Barry and kidnapping Cecile and all that other stuff, but season 7 Frost is Caitlin's "sister", and Caitlin had no hand in the crimes Frost committed, she was just stuck riding shotgun in her own body while Frost was at the wheel.
So that's where my head has been, basically, that there are some points in the show where they're two sides of one person, and there are some points where they're two people sharing one body, and however you interpret who Frost is in what season just depends on how you wanna view it, I guess.
But the angle you're coming at it from here provides a way for Caitlin and Frost to have been two different individuals the entire time. It's not foolproof, because the show's writing is still inconsistent in places, but it works a whole lot better than just saying "Frost went rogue in season 3 because she finally got to call the shots, and she just wanted to make up for lost time." Like, what was that all about?? Frost's motives being entirely separate from Caitlin just doesn't make sense. Even when it's played like Frost just enjoys violence and hurts people for the heck of it, it doesn't fit with the massive chip on her shoulder in season 3. What does fit is Frost acting on Caitlin's anger. Whether it just gets transferred to her as a result of sharing a body, or she is actually angry herself on Caitlin's behalf and acting out of a protective impulse, it just makes more sense for what Caitlin is going through to be Frost's driving force when she's out committing crimes, than for her to just be randomly violent out of nowhere.
I feel like this has strayed so far from the original subject, and also I'm very sleepy and not sure if it makes much sense. You just got my wheels turning so fast because now I have material for headcanons involving Caitlin and Frost being different people from the beginning, and there is so much to think about. It's like you just handed me a bag of asphalt patch and now I can go fill plot holes I kept bumping over before.
In response to your main point here, Caitlin basically giving Frost control as a means of letting herself escape is a very interesting takeaway of the situation. I don't know if I see s3 Caitlin as dealing with suicidal ideation (s1 Caitlin is another matter), but I get where you're coming from on that, and it is a thought provoking point. Also, never thought about the fact that Julian taking off the necklace is another case of a man choosing something for her, so major props for pointing that out (and this adds more layers to the end of the season when she turns on Savitar after being given a choice on who she wants to be...)
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blazethecheeto · 7 months
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What kind of dates do you think Smoak Siren would go on? For the ship ask game.
AAAAA OKAY
Dinner and Drinks
this is already technically canon because they've been doing this in s7 but like felicity always invites laurel to these fancy ass restaurants or to a bar or just to big belly burger whenever she can. and laurel's always skeptical about why she wants to go but always does it anyways. when felicity shows up looking all pretty and dressed up sometimes laurel is caught off guard and she's like 'oh. you look. nice.'
the one time laurel tried to ask felicity out for dinner (ahem friend date) she failed miserably. anyways yes i believe they're hardcore dinner/drinks girlfriends and felicity finds the coolest food to make them try together.
2. Karaoke
hold on hold on hear me out. im definitely imagining a sort-of snowbarry situation here with a very drunk felicity dragging laurel to a karaoke place and then singing her heart out. laurel is horrified but also finds it endearing until she calls her up to sing with her.
she gives in because well, it's felicity and she surprisingly has a good voice (BECAUSE SHE'S SIREN) and she has fun for the first time in a while
(i should write this oh my god)
3. Aquarium Date!!
because i like aquariums and felicity probably does too she probably hyperfixated on sea creatures when she was younger.
she would be pointing out all the cool fish and infodumping about them while laurel is like that's a fucking cool shark right there
felicity drags laurel through all the exhibits and in the end laurel gets her a little pufferfish stuffie or something and insists she's not going soft.
(that date is so killersnow WAIT)
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Snowfrost headcanon
After the excitement of having her own body wears off (after a few days maybe), something happens (villains and dangers and all that) and Frost realizes that there's a very big downside to not sharing a body. She can't always be with Caitlin anymore and as we have seen in earlier episodes (flashback to that scene "if im not there whos gonna protect her?") and even though Caitlin assures her that shes safe, Frost cant help but think about that time where Caitlin died (she flatlined so technically she was dead for like 30s-1min) and the only reason she is alive right now was because of Frost. So for a while Frost follows Caitlin practically everywhere and is probably overprotective.
Tldr: Frost has separation anxiety
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samuraiedgedchance · 3 years
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Frost was so excited because she'd finally get to kiss Caity, but the episode ending cut her off
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foxjockey · 3 years
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Nothing like a tender face touch between a bio-engineer and the villain that cohabitates her body amiright
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fireflake-art · 3 years
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New personal designs for the gaydies(tm)
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she keeps me warm, a killersnow collection - truisms by jenny holzer // the flash s3e7 killer frost // she used to be mine by sara bareilles // the flash s3e7 killer frost // fire and ice by robert frost // the flash s3e21 cause and effect // vices & virtues by reinaeiry // the flash s4e2 mixed signals // poem without a hero and selected poems by anna akhmatova // the flash s7e7 growing pains // strawberry blond by mitski // the flash s7e8 the people v. killer frost // intra-system relationship - pluralpedia // the flash s7e11 family matters part 2 // the amber spyglass by philip pullman
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the-feral-gremlin · 7 months
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ayo for the asksies gamesies: what's your fav headcanon for killersnow?
Thanks for the ask! I don’t have many killersnow headcanons but I love this one.
Whenever Frost gets Caitlin flowers, she doesn’t buy them but instead makes/sculpts them with her ice so that they last longer.
From this ask Game! (Send me a question from there and I’ll answer the best I can, if you want.)
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shrinkthisviolet · 10 months
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snowwest, killersnow, irisco
Snowest:
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My favorite non-canon Flash ship, I love them 🥰
Caitlin/KF:
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I know not a lot of people liked the sister thing, but I did 🤷‍♀️ so…nope, not for me
Irisco:
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I’ve never been a shipper of this per se, but they’re cute!! I like them, and I’ve read a couple fics about them 💞
send me a ship, and I’ll fill out the bingo!
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icedteaandoldlace · 10 months
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pretty sure ive already sent some of these ships as bingo for u before, but i'll fucking do it again: SNOWWEST, E-1 KILLERSNOW, KILLERSNOW OF THE E-1 AND E-2 VARIETY, WESTHALLEN (eddie, not eobard) AND FINALLY...... olivarry :3
Snowwest
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This is pretty much my only Caitlin ship besides Snowstorm, and also one of my only consistent fanon ships (in other words, one that I always like and don't just need the right set of circumstances to get on board with). I love the crumbs of their friendship that we got in canon, and I wish we'd gotten more of them!! 😭
E-1 Killersnow
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I'm mostly neutral on them, and that's probably because I have such mixed feelings about them due to their canon development. Before Frost showed up, the foreshadowing of her emergence indicated that Caitlin had a tendency to repress her emotions, and that she had an edgier side that she didn't always let show. So when Frost did show up, I was prepared for her to be an extension of Caitlin that Caitlin had to learn to come to terms with, and eventually she'd become a balanced version of both sides. Then I saw a gifset someone made with the caption that they were girlfriends, and I thought that was an interesting take, because that would make Frost a whole separate individual who just happens to share Caitlin's body, and the idea of them navigating dating under those circumstances would be very interesting. And then, of course, canon decided to turn them into sisters, which I can also see the appeal of, but the whiplash that retcon gave me makes me reluctant to refer to them as such. Tbh I still see season 3 Killer Frost as Caitlin, and I see later-seasons Frost as a completely different character, and seasons 4-5 Frost goes back and forth, so it makes for very inconsistent feelings about them. And of course, I headcanon Frost as aroace and Very Much Not Into Anyone, so I'm not super invested in any ships involving her.
E-2 Killersnow
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Earth-2 Killer Frost is much more clearly depicted as Caitlin Gone Evil, and season 2 had a fuzzier, less developed concept of doppelgängers than season 3 and onward, so to me it just kind of seems like shipping Caitlin with herself, just with a different life?? Idk if that makes sense. I do enjoy the one-sided aspect of them, though. Killer Frost was definitely feeling some type of way about Caitlin.
Westhallen
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BINGO! These guys are mixed feelings city. I can't really see them working out, but there are aspects of it that have potential. Like, I feel like any couple combination of them could work out (in an alternate timeline) with the other as their bestie third wheel, but given the love triangle in canon, I feel like they'd just be constantly at each other's throats if they tried to all be a thing together. It may be the Dan, Vanessa, and Olivia threesome storyline in Gossip Girl shaping my view of this, since they had a very similar trio dynamic. Also the fact that I've never read any fic for them, so all I have is their canon dynamic to base my feelings on. That said, props to the Westhallen fandom for their use of that "there's three people in this relationship" line. My hat's off to ya. 🎩
Olivarry
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I may be alone in this, but I've just never seen Barry and Oliver as being that close. They have some good moments here and there, but it seems like the majority of their relationship is just clashing over crime-fighting styles. I just don't really get it. Of course, the erasure of Cisco as Barry's best friend among the Olivarry fandom doesn't help my enthusiasm level any. On that note, I actually enjoy Olivibe's interactions more than Olivarry's, and I'm waiting for the day someone decides to do something with that.
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blazethecheeto · 7 months
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what are your arrowverse rarepairs?
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okay so this is gonna be fun especially as i'm not sure what counts as a rarepair
ARROW
lauricity (laurel x felicity) <- the first words she said to laurel was 'gorgeous laurel' ok she was crushing hard
shasladiver?!?! (shado x oliver x slade + please tell me if they have another name) <- domestic. cute. island. trio. before. the. incident. "what's the worst way your ship has ever died" "oh so slade fake-died and then oliver accidentally murdered shado and then he appeared just as she died and she never knew he was alive so he held her dead body in his arms as oliver was forever shrouded in guilt then slade became corrupted from a drug and oliver had to kill him too but he wasn't really dead and came back for revenge"
smoaksiren (siren x felicity) <- i already ranted about this one i LOVE THEM.
terrificdog (rene x curtis) <- they're so gay and chaotic x nerdy duos are the best even dinah agrees
constanqueen (oliver x constantine) <- why was constantine so flirty to him in that one episode they probably hooked up let's be honest
smoakingcanary (felicity x sara) <- 'YOU'RE STILL CUTE'
alicity (felicity x alena) <- they were actually adorable oh my god
lauryssa (laurel x nyssa) <- supposed to be canon you can't convince me otherwise
(gotta love how much felicity ships are in there girlie has chemistry with everyone)
FLASH
coldflash (snart x barry) <- does this even count as a rarepair they're so popular i mean thematic parallels, red x blue, enemies to lovers, homo-erotic flirting
snowwest (iris x caitlin) <- lauricity coded also the entirety of 4x05
balph?!?! (barry x ralph) <- the entirety of s4. that's all.
blackfrost (frost x siren) <- they're each other in a different font just IMAGINE THE FUCKING POWER.
bulian?!? (barry x julian) <- enemies to lovers and just very sus moments in s3 that made me say 'hold up fruity'
killersnow (caitlin x frost) <- new ship but oh my god its growing on me they're smoaksiren in a different font
(gotta love how barry is half of them he's so shippable)
SUPERGIRL
superwire (leslie x kara) <- dude they're so coldflash coded
agentreign (alex x sam) <- i still can't believe they're not canon
psiwire (psi x leslie) <- that one episode in s3. got me thinking thoughts.
superlane (kara x lucy) <- i shipped them so much in s1 oh my god
monwinn (mon-el x winn) <- bro has a thing for aliens
scholson (james x winn) <- nah bc this could lowkey work
superbat (kara x kate + is there another name?) <- kate was 1000% flirting with kara in the elseworlds crossover
LEGENDS OF TOMORROW
coldatom (ray x snart) <- snart has a type and it's self-righteous red coded dark haired boys
lovebirds (kendra x sara) <- this was so unexpected but like hello they trained together and she got sara back from the league
timehex (jonah x rip) <- actually no way u can convince me they aren't exes
whiteatom (sara x ray) <- they're so sweet and they're the time parents and so underrated
steelatom (nate x ray) <- bromance.
hellcanary (sara x constantine) <- hhhh i could rant so much bro but they get each other and they are friends with benefits and both have ties to demons and can understand each other's hurt and are chaotic bisexuals and-
atomhawkcanary (sara x ray x kendra) <- they lived together for like a year ok things probably happened.
thanks for asking!!!! damn there's a lot lol
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leviviii · 3 years
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Tonights episode... Not great, not terrible. Filmographers in the next millennia are going to be wondering why 2021 blocking was so screwed up. But that cliffy man.... Imma be honest. I lowkey ship CaitlinFrost... which I realize is... well I find it odd that I ship it, cause ya know... one body. Maybe it's just because i don't really ship Caitlin with anyone at all since Julian gtfo'd. Idk tho. I'm gonna go try and wrap my brain around that one with the new... development. *scratches head in self confusion*
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NEW KILLERWAVE DISCORD SERVER
https://discord.gg/eNj4czJ
A brand new discord server for our favorite pyromaniac and good doctor with a dark side!
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