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#Admiral Croft
bethanydelleman · 1 year
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There's a part on Persuasion where Admiral Croft and Anne are walking in Bath, and the Admiral is telling Anne about Louisa's engagement and how Fredrick is free etc etc. And at one point Admiral offers his arm to Anne saying that he feels weird without a lady at his arm, implying that he's so used to his wife Sophie walking and being by his side that one time of one day that she wasn't he felt awkward and couldn't resist himself but mention her coz something reminded him of her. Similarly when Mrs. Croft tells at the dinner with the Musgroves that she's lived on so many ships and she was fine and dandy on all of them, but the only time she "imagined" herself sick was when she was away from then Captain Croft for a month or so when he was in sea and she was on land. These twooooo 😍. I LOVE this couple!! You know not being able to conceive a child can make or break a couple, but in their case I think it definitely brought them closer. Also that instance when Admiral, Mrs. Croft and Anne are riding when the lot is coming back from their walk and Mrs. Croft informs Anne that her and Admiral married quite quickly after they got to know each other, infact too quickly by the standards of that time 😂. I also remember that part where Anne is visiting her house after the Crofts have rented it and the Admiral informs her that he and Sophie moved around some furniture together, implying that they both are actively involved with each other even in mundane, day-to-day things of life. These two have clearly been thick as thieves in both love and adventure, and have stood by each other through it all. Now, THIS is the relationship I want!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Admiral and Mrs. Croft are even more #couplesgoals than the main couples because they have stood the test of time! They have survived war, childlessness, separation, and relative poverty. Mrs. Croft even fondly remembers when they lived in a room as small as a postage stamp.
That is true love that lasts. I don't want honeymoon fresh feelings, give me a couple that still wants to be together every day after 15 years.
(Also, the Admiral is a hilarious man and I love him as much as his wife. All women should be named Sophie? Gold!)
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showmethesneer · 1 year
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Admiral Croft criticizing a drawing of a boat:
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oldshrewsburyian · 2 years
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I think it was @fictionadventurer who once argued on here for a nursing-focused read of Persuasion, and the importance of health, illness, disability, and injury really does come to the fore in Bath. Sir Walter -- in keeping with his denial of mortality generally -- cannot conceive of the reality of a Mrs. Smith, close to Elizabeth’s age but also chronically ill. Anne’s confrontation with her father over her commitment to Mrs. Smith of Westgate Buildings, in turn, only comes about because Lady Dalrymple has a cold (!) so is inviting people to come to her so she won’t be bored. Guiltily, I find this hilarious. Meanwhile, Anne and Mrs. Smith (can I call her Harriet?) have a fascinating chat about Nurse Rooke and her insights. And this shows us more about the different meanings of illness. Mrs. Wallis’ confinement, in earlier chapters, has meant her sad absence from assemblies, the impossibility of making the acquaintance of a colonel’s wife. But Nurse Rooke reports that she is “a mere pretty, silly, expensive, fashionable woman,” and Harriet sees her as a good candidate for purchasing her more elaborate and expensive crafts. I support this plan; I hope Colonel Wallis finds his wife’s bedroom just... festooned with knickknacks. Incidentally, I also hope that Mary buys a lot of Harriet’s things (Mary is currently complaining about a sore throat she doesn’t even have.) The Crofts continue to embody #couplegoals, as Sophy strides around to accompany her husband in his medicinal exercise regime until she gives herself a blister. In sickness and in health, I love these two.
I think we can also count the discussion of spirits as part of the discussion of health in these chapters, given early nineteenth-century understandings of health. In analyzing Louisa’s marriage to James Benwick, Anne certainly does this. Louisa’s “health, her nerves, her courage, her character” may all be affected by her injury... and this may be no bad thing. Arguably, Louisa is here implicitly contrasted with the late Mr. Smith, who did not think seriously till it was almost too late. Louisa, whose lack of seriousness was her one serious fault, has been cured of that. And Captain Benwick, who “must love somebody,” with his affectionate heart (aww) is also improving in spirits, and thus in emotional health. It is also noteworthy, I think, that Anne is eager to make the argument, to the Admiral, that “spirit and gentleness” need not be incompatible. And this is something that I think I have perhaps been too ready to overlook in Anne’s own character. (I have wronged her!) Meanwhile, in evaluating the soundness of the impeccable Mr. Elliot, Anne reflects that “her early impressions were incurable.” Incurable!
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kajaono · 2 years
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It should be a never ending running gag that in every new persuasion adaptation Admiral Croft has a new illness that brings him to Bath
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firawren · 1 year
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Have you ever written something on Admiral and Mrs. Croft from Persuasion? I've been listening to the book again on my walks and honestly I love them! I wish I could read some lighthearted fanfic or something about them.
I haven't written about them yet, but I love them too! They are honestly couple goals, and I want to be best friends with them. Maybe I will write something for them someday.
Maybe someone else has a Croft-centric fanfic to recommend?
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theladykit · 10 months
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Hot take: the best relationship in all of Austen isn’t any of the main couples, it’s the Admiral and Mrs Croft.
No, I’m not taking constructive criticism.
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ljones41 · 2 years
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Commentary on “PERSUASION” (2022)
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I just finished watching the latest version of Jane Austen’s 1817 novel, “Persuasion”.  And . . . well, below is my opinion on the film:
I just finished watching "Persuasion" recently.  I thought it turned out to be better than I had assumed it would be.  I certainly enjoyed it more than 2020's "Emma", which not only struck me as overrated, but not as tolerable as I had originally assumed.
 I had some problems with "Persuasion".  I didn't care how modern English managed to occasionally find its way into the movie's dialogue.  I wish Admiral and Mrs. Croft were utilized in the Bath sequences.  I found Richard E. Grant's performance to be a bit exaggerated.  I didn't care for Cosmo Jarvis' day growth beard or Dakota Johnson's hair.  Nor did I have to see Anne Elliot prepare to take a piss near some bush.
 The movie's uses of a narration and "breaking the fourth wall" did not bother me one bit.  In fact, these narrative devices were slightly used in the 2007 version with Sally Hawkins.  As for Anne Elliot's sense of humor, I was relieved that Dakota Johnson had handled it with such subtlety that she did not come off as a Jane Austen 2.0 like Frances O'Connor in 1999's "Mansfield Park".  I am relieved that the movie did not completely re-live Anne Elliot's "Run Through Bath" from the 2007 film.  And I'm grateful it did NOT make the mistake of having all Naval characters in this film wear uniforms, like the 1995 movie did.  Royal Navy officers DID NOT wear their uniforms, while off duty.
 Like I said, I still managed to enjoy this movie.  I enjoyed the performances, especially from Dakota Johnson, Cosmo Jarvis and Henry Golding.  I thought this version filmed Louisa Musgrove's accident at Lyme a hell of a lot better than any other version I have seen.  I'm not kidding on this one.  I was especially pleased that this film DID NOT portray the William Elliot character as an out-and-out villain.  I hate to say this, but I've always believed that Jane Austen's one big mistake was to portray Mr. Elliot as a villain.  I thought it was unnecessary.  I thought he was more effective as Frederick Wentworth's romantic rival, as this movie eventually proved.
 One last thing - there are three other versions of "Persuasion", not two.  Aside from the 1995 and 2007 movies, there is the 1971 BBC miniseries with Ann Firbank and recently deceased Bryan Marshall.  You should check that out.
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madame-r · 1 year
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The Crofts are the best. 
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Listen all I have to say is the Crofts have the most wild sex of any of Jane Austen's couples and I stand by that. Like I guarantee you if any of Admiral Croft's sailors are in the "it's bad luck to have a woman on board" camp it's because they had to spend too many fucking nights like 🙉🙉🙉🙉🙉. Those two have compatible kinks that the rest of the world hasn't even heard of. They do the role play they do the 19th century sex toys they do the experimental positions like. Of any of her characters those two Fuck.
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volcanicmudbubbles · 1 year
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Admiral Croft is walking along a busy street in Bath. Anne is on his arm. He nods hello to old friends and colleagues as they pass by, and he tells her a little anecdote about each of them. Austen doesn’t say so but I’m certain Anne is charmed. She longs to be an Admiral Wentworth’s wife some day, and to be able to play “remember when?” with him.
Then the Admiral says that while he likes seeing everyone, he likes even better going back to the house with his wife, to draw in their chairs and be snug — as snug as when they were newlyweds in North Yarmouth.
“We do not like our lodgings here the worse, I can tell you, for putting us in mind of those we first had at North Yarmouth. The wind blows through one of the cupboards just in the same way.”
This is such a lovely little detail!
I want to leave a comment for Miss Austen, a la A03: Lovely detail! I too had windy cupboards in one of my first apartments. The cupboards overlapped a poorly sealed window frame, so the wind came through — one time even snow blew through. I can’t say I’d like for my current house to do that; but I get that he likes the way the draft makes them snuggle together!
Me 🤝 Admiral Croft
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bethanydelleman · 1 year
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Why You Should Read Persuasion
Short answer: to cast out the demon of Persuasion 2022
But no really, read this book...
A beautiful story about love reclaimed but with the BEST SIDE CHARACTERS EVER!
Admiral Croft, who while being an apparently competent admiral, his favourite hobby is riding around the countryside in his gig and frequently toppling it over so he and his wife are thrown out. He wants all women to be named Sophie because somehow that would be easier (???) He finds it funny when artists paint ships that don’t look seaworthy. And, who listens to and respects his wife…
The amazing, Mrs. Croft! We can only describe her as phenomenal, marvelous, and tough-as-nails. She’s travelled across the world, she advises her husband in money matters, and she attempts to keep herself in the carriage by taking the reins. She scolds her brother for not thinking women are capable of being as awesome as her. She is one half of the best marriage in Austen.
Captain and Mrs. Harville give the Crofts a run for their money! They are hospitable, kind, and industrious. When Louisa is injured, they do everything imaginable for her care, including packing off their own kids to the Musgroves for Christmas to keep the house quiet. They seem like wonderful parents but…
The Musgroves are also wonderful parents. They support their daughters choices even if the men are a little less wealthy than Mr. Musgrove would have wanted. They appreciate and love Anne. They try to include Mary even though Mary is THE WORST. Because they are genuinely good people who have warm, open hearts. And if you get tired of all that goodness and those stable, happy marriages...
Sir Walter Elliot is there for you to laugh at. He has six mirrors (at least) in his dressing room, he took the time to count 86 plain women in Bath, he forgets his daughters exist if he can’t see them (is he a goldfish?), and he thinks rubbing bleach on your face can really improve your looks!
All of this in a story that has deep themes about the value of people who have not been born into wealth or rank and the value of women who have cultivated minds and strength that men cannot imagine possible. What can I say? 
Persuasion is a triumph.
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sunclttaflower · 2 years
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ultimately i think that the reason anne loved to watch and genuinely enjoyed being around admiral croft and mrs. croft was that she herself longed for a marriage in which being together with your spouse and creating a whole own world with each other would be enough.
at times i felt like she was utterly lonely, even around her so called best friend lady russel or other acquaintances. and only when she imagined herself being with captain wentworth, being with him throughout their lives, throughout their little and big adventures, filled that void of loneliness with emotional comfort.
and yes, i still have to read all of it. i'm 3/4 through, meaning not finished yet 🤓
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makorragal-312 · 9 months
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Ben really had the audacity to say that Nick was just like him.
BITCH WHERE?
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oldshrewsburyian · 2 years
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I’m presuming that anyone not interested in a more or less minute account of my internal screaming will block ‘Persuasion reread,’ so here goes. Today’s internal screaming is provoked by the fact that we enter Volume 2 with Anne glad that she and Captain Wentworth have -- at least tacitly, at least partially -- reconciled; she’s grateful for what she takes as signs of disinterested friendship from him. She’s also fully convinced that he is going to marry Louisa, and that she will just have to cope with that. (Interestingly, Lady Russell’s ‘pleased contempt’ at this news offers further evidence of the fact that she apparently hates Wentworth’s guts, despite acknowledging that he did seem to partly appreciate Anne’s worth in ‘06. Seem to partly appreciate! I tend to concur with the critical opinion that Lady R. has a wilful blind spot around Wentworth’s sexuality. Anyway.)
There is more! in this chapter, we get some of Austen’s first hints to readers that Anne’s perception of Wentworth’s feelings is... less than accurate. We’ve already had, of course, his responses to Mr. Elliot. Now we get Anne, responding to Lady Russell’s compliments on her appearance, ‘amused’ to think that she may be afforded ‘a second spring of youth and beauty.’ A second spring, you say, Miss Austen?? Moreover, we learn from the Crofts that Frederick, in bringing them news from Lyme, has asked after Anne’s welfare. He hopes she isn’t worn out; he’s noticed her exerting herself on behalf of the Musgroves, and wants to be sure she’s all right.
For one thing, he’s the only person who does appear to have noticed this, or thought to ask after her. (The Musgroves, in their anxiety over Louisa, have a good excuse for not doing so, granted.) And I think that we have here some early suggestive evidence concerning what our favorite obtuse genius is thinking and planning.
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boltlightning · 11 months
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finished northanger abbey. last of austen’s main 6 novels i needed to read and a hell of a book, no notes. no one asked but here is my final ranking of the austen leading men:
george knightley (certified old man, also certified king)
henry tilney (so genre savvy he could look you right in the eye off the page)
colonel brandon (a little melancholic but he’s got the spirit. eventually.)
frederick wentworth (brick-headed jock. so in love he blinds HIMSELF)
fitzwilliam darcy (actual clown. he gets better. eventually.)
edward ferrars (speak up we can’t hear you over your family)
edmund bertram (lol)
thanks for tuning in, gonna go accuse my crush’s father of killing his wife now yours &c. bolt
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birbfeedersart · 2 years
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Psst! Hey!! You like Jane Austen's novels??
You hate the 2022 adaptation of Persuasion?
You wanna see a good adaptation instead???
Then check out the Granada miniseries Persuasion from 1971!! You can find it on the YouTube!! Or get it on DVD (that version may be shortened/cut differently though)!!
It starts out a bit slow, and has a more 'staged' feel than a 'film' feel, but it's true to the story, the actors are excellent, the costumes are beautiful, and Anne never paints jam on her face like a fucking ninny--!!!
Ahem. It's just... it's a good adaptation. My fav one, in fact. Might be worth a watch?? Good palate cleanser, at any rate 😅
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