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gloxinian · 4 years
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A lot of people struggle with why fetishizing mlm is bad bc they either genuinely don’t know what it looks like or are purposefully changing the definition so that THEY personally aren’t the bad person and can continue on without taking responsibility.
Fetishizing isn’t about simply enjoying the chemistry between two guys, supporting mlm, or watching a show that happens to have mlm in it. Whenever mlm ask to not be fetishized, this is almost always how “fetishized” is redefined- something safe/harmless. Redefining fetishization like this makes mlm out to be ridiculous for pointing out our issues with the homophobic ways our relationships and identities are viewed. It makes fetishization out to not only be normal, but an ideal to reach to support mlm and impossible to criticize. 
But that’s not what fetishization is. Fetishization is dehumanizing. It’s breaking our existence down into something purely sexual, something for entertainment, and further dehumanizes us by representing us as harmful, predatory, abusive, homophobic stereotypes. It breaks us down as flat characters to play with, to paint us as abusive or abused for ~the drama~, and forgets or purposefully ignores how we’re real people with real lives and feelings who are hurt by these depictions and this treatment. 
Growing up seeing this fetishization is damaging to mlm. Most popularized mlm content isn’t written by us or for us and instead written by and for outsiders who forget that we’re real people instead of characters and try and mold mlm relationships into roles we don’t fit.
Straight people who do this treat us as a man and woman instead of as two men for example and it doesn’t make sense. It warps young mlm’s views of themselves and our relationships just as much as it warps others views of us. 
This isn’t to say other groups can’t be fetishized just that we can/are also fetishized
Just stop ignoring mlm when we say that WE are being fetishized and it hurts us. Fetishization isn’t representation or support. If you want to support us, then listen to us and boost our voices instead of blocking us out and boosting the voices of people who forget we’re human.
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gloxinian · 4 years
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It’s always so baffling to me that ppl are so ready to defend cishet women creating poor mlm content. Like... I grew up reading Japanese yaoi as well as the westernized version of it. Both were bad. Both were filled with harmful depictions of mlm relationships (sexual and not). Honestly, this also applies to cishet women creating that content under other names/tags as well bc a lot of modern BL still draws from the same stereotypes, especially when it’s written by cishet women who have no frame of reference or care for how our relationships function irl.
Yes, it’s entirely possible for cishet women to create good mlm content. But... so much of it isn’t bc the content isn’t being created with realism in mind. It isn’t being created after speaking to actual mlm or reading up on our thoughts and experiences, and it’s often depicting our relationships through a cishet lens. It’s created purely with the thought of what would be “cute/sexy/romantic” to the author and their peers and the perception on those ideas changes based on the author’s relationship to the topic. That’s why so much BL/Yaoi/etc created by cishet ppl in general comes off as stereotypes and treats our relationships as if one of us must be “the guy” while the other is “the girl” instead of the reality of us both being men.
And mlm pointing out that just bc content is about us doesn’t mean it’s good FOR us or for us in general shouldn’t be ignored or treated as if we don’t know what we’re talking abt. If we’re pointing it out, it’s for a reason and it’s very likely we’ve been directly harmed by it in some way. If u take every criticism of this sort of content from mlm as a personal attack... then that’s a YOU problem and u should probably reflect on why it is u find mlm pointing out homophobia to be a personal offense.
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gloxinian · 4 years
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Slur discourse in regards to bi ppl is always so confusing to me like u ppl think we aren’t allowed to reclaim any slurs related to our trauma? We aren’t even allowed the option to reclaim homophobic slurs despite experiencing homophobia? Bi ppl aren’t over here trying to collect and say all the naughty words but yea we’d like to be able to reclaim slurs that hurt us in peace.
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gloxinian · 4 years
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this shouldn’t even have to be said but supporting bi women is not just rbing posts abt solidarity or abt how much u love bi women.  supporting bi women isn’t abt picking and choosing which ones are “palatable” to u like “oh... i only support the bi women who perform the way i like by only dating women or never speaking up abt biphobia”.
if u don’t support bi women who have never dated anyone or who have only ever dated men, then u don’t support bi women.
if u don’t support bi women who are in an abusive relationship bc their abuser happens to be a man (aka “oh... she deserves it for dating a man/a homophobe/a biphobe/etc) then u don’t support bi women.
if u don’t support bi women who openly talk abt their attraction or who speak up abt biphobia, then u don’t support bi women.
if u don’t support bi women bc they have a different stance on some internet discourse, then u don’t support bi women.
i could go on and on but i really shouldn’t have to.  the point is that some of u are really digging for reasons to hurt bi women.  u shouldn’t be sitting there w a checklist of ur “ideal” bi women that has to be performed in order for a bi woman to deserve to feel safe nd supported.
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gloxinian · 3 years
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people really go “am i biphobic for thinking bi women are tainted for being attracted to men?” and people will go “no it’s valid to have dating preferences!”i
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gloxinian · 4 years
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we love a canon bi himbo
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gloxinian · 3 years
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what fucking rabbit hole have i entered where a cis person is trying to use trans women as a tool to explain why it’s aphobic to say people that aren’t bi shouldn’t imply that bi women aren’t affected by homophobia
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gloxinian · 4 years
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i feel like a lot of ppl don’t understand that it’s good to be critical of all media u consume in some way nd that being critical doesn’t mean u can’t enjoy things.  a lot of ppl on here automatically equate critical with hating smth nd thinking it’s bad when in reality it’s just... thinking abt what ur consuming nd not taking everything at face value.  it’s understanding that media can have themes, underlying meanings, good and bad qualities, that everything can be affected by a creator’s bias whether intentionally or not, and understanding what effects or implications media has on the real world.  stuff like that  
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gloxinian · 3 years
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Ok I broke down and colored her because its what she deserves
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gloxinian · 3 years
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bnha fans ask “hey is anybody going accuse abuse victims of being wrong about their abuse so i can like the hot man without feeling guilty?” and then not wait for a response
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gloxinian · 4 years
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ANYWAY if u rb posts abt bi/pan solidarity while also saying “bi = 2″, disregarding bi voices, and saying bi history doesn’t matter... u are an absolute clown, a biphobe, and there can never be any solidarity w u so long as u continue holding these beliefs/habits.
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gloxinian · 4 years
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absolutely losing my mind trying to figure out what this means. Transphobia is repackaged aphobia? Biphobia is just repackaged gold star lesbian rhetoric??
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gloxinian · 3 years
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guys i’m losing my mind does the lesbian masterdoc seriously say that having trans women as your “guy” crushes makes you a lesbian??  did they not consult a single trans lesbian???
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gloxinian · 4 years
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gloxinian · 3 years
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i’ve been trying to explain how it’s wrong to define bi women by their attraction to men and acting like they’re tainted by it bc... obviously and it’s just
genuinely heartbreaking to hear a young lesbian say she doesn’t think she could ever connect with a bi woman bc she doesn’t believe a bi woman could ever understand loving woman in the same way a lesbian could.  nd how she can’t view bi women without thinking about how they’re attracted to men
nd she brought up how it was ok bc she also felt the same way about straight women and i just...
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gloxinian · 3 years
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Fresh discourse straight from twitter!
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