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doomsdaydicecascader · 1 month

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becoming one of those update art posters as we speak

#homestuck #homestuck beyond canon #alt calliope

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hurlyburlytopsyturvy · 1 month

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What a daring dream.

↑ close-up of the gang

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meowcatmutie · 16 days

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@413countdown day 5: best friends/worst enemies!!!!!

homestuck is great at having absolutely FASCINATING sibling relationships

#homestuck #dave strider #dirk strider #caliborn #calliope #alt calliope #my art #413countdown #homestuck 413 #homestuck spoilers

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springselkie · 7 months

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hear me out

#homestuck #calliope #callie ohpeee #alt calliope #alternate calliope #my art

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ducotte-real · 27 days

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Hey lol so like. So like space players and they're red saviors huh

#GOD the reversal of the space maternal figure that raises a red proof of political fissure that takes on a form of both messiah and devil #me and my karkat/ruby parallels #homestuck art #homestuck 2 #homestuck beyond canon spoilers #homestuck beyond canon #jade harley #the dolorosa #the signless #ruby lalonde harley #alt calliope

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cringefail-clown · 5 days

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hear me out, but i dont think alt!calliope is that much concerned about canonicity of the story all that much. theres some deeper motive going on here

when john defeats lord english (and gets promptly unsubscribed from life, since his narrative purpose is completed) and davepeta hurls him into the black hole, on the other side in candyverse alt!calliope waits for him to appear and, when he does, devours him to gain the power-up needed to escape the timeline and goes on a hunt for ult dirk to stop him from starting another sburb session

and this is where lord english storyline should be put to rest, but its not as simple as that. this dudes like a cockroach, you just cant get rid of him, he just doesnt disappear, hes always there no matter what, looming over the narrative. and, now thats he was absorbed into alt!calliope, whats left of him? his masterpiece self now residing inside ult dirk

and dirk always had a close connection to caliborn - cal liked dirk the most from all the alpha kids, chatting with him regularly, hal - dirks splinter - became a part of cal and also doc scratch, who was also the host that brough lord english into the universe after beta kids created the green sun (which he also manipulated them into)

basically what im trying to say, dirk wanting to start another sburb session isnt really about maintaining their connection to canon, but it also is about it. caliborn lords over the alpha timeline, and is intrinsically tied to the canon. hes always there, hes already there, and he will always come back. and dirk is narratively tied to the one guy that was responsible with brining him into the story. excellent host, you might say

the point of starting another session is ultimately to bring caliborn back to life, and this is the goal of ult dirk, as the one whos carrying the last splinter of his soul. and thats why alt!calliope is so focused on stopping him. its all about the powerstruggle between the two cherubs, once again

(would also like to point out that rose got fooled twice into bringing lord english into the narrative - once through doc scratch manipulating her into believing deploying the tumor would destroy the green sun, and now through dirk manipulating her into believing starting another session will stop the timeline from deteriorating. girl cannot catch a break jesus)

tldr ult dirk is acting as another doc scratch, and the goal is to revive lord english

but tHATS JUST A THEORY-

#homestuck beyond canon #homestuck meta #dirk strider #ult dirk #lord english #caliborn #calliope #alt calliope #long post #considering what happens to doc in canon... this doesnt bode well for dirk huh #will his head explode again #the hemoanarchist post about lord english being a splinter of dirk only further solidified this to me #maybe ill be proven wrong but i mean. the evidence is there isnt it

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classpectpokerap · 29 days

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gonna go completely insane for a second here.

was thinking about mspar. who will obviously not. appear in hsbc. bc it makes almost no thematic sense for that to happen

but like… i made a connection. that i want to talk about.

mspar in pq is defined by two things, early on

really, really, really fucking hating the direction the epilogues took the "story", and wanting to take it into their own hands to fix it.

like, the imagery about this being a Bad Thing is pretty unsubtle. in the prologue, mspar literally tramples over homestuck panels, crushing them underfoot. and by the end of pq, what they have done isnt just create a new timeline where "everyone is happy," they've overwritten homestuck to do it. theyve Literally retconned the story and replaced it with their fanon ideas of how to "fix" things. that's why ultdirk and the director have to come and tell you that it needs to stop.

there's a lot more about mspar's actions in pq being like… pretty unambiguously villain shit, in my reading, but thats a sort of separate ramble to what i wanted to be insane about (let me know if you want me to ramble about. mspar being the bad guy. another time.)

basically. mspar's design looks a hell of a lot like doc scratch. obviously. theyre both round-headed narrators.

doc scratch's textbox is literally just mspar's inverted. theyre foils, in a sense. scratch enables canon while hurting everyone to do it, and mspar enables fanon (…while hurting everyone to do it, differentways.)

and that got me thinking like. a lot of this description i just wrote applies to another character too.

someone in the text who was introduced as a reader of the stories of the heroes, as an author of fanfiction and fanart

though, obviously meat and candy calliope are accounted for. it's not literally that mspar is calliope. besides, its not even like calliope wears a similar hooded black outfit to them, or makes a huge fucking deal about loathing the complexity of postcanon,

hey wait a minute

and theyve got a lot in common. even beyond the superficial. for example, they both just. appoint themself as the guardian of their timeline, because they have to "fix" homestuck. (whether the characters in homestuck want this or not.)

jade harley literally tells *both characters* "well, what if we don't want your protection!!!! why won't you leave us alone!" and then they just sorta ignore her wishes

and the connection keeps going. like. mspar and altcallie have both stood outside of the green sun with aradia and absorbed a canon into themself so they can rewrite it.

this extremely specific thing they have in common!!!! kinda fucked up!!!!!!

like, im not saying this because i literally think mspar is going to crack their head open and reveal altcallie a la Lord English in that intermission.

but THEMATICALLY.

they have a lot in common.

way more than i realized until literally two days ago!

like mspar is LITERALLY another narrator at least on the scale of ultdirk and doc scratch and the like and LITERALLY ALL OF THEM ARE VILLAINS shdashjfhasfhsajdhgashfkgshjdgsdfgsdhjg. there is stuff to think about.

(conspiracy brain.) and of all the outfits mspar wore in friendsim, it's specifically the black hoodie up that they got sprites for….

anyway.

obviously pesterquest and hsbc werent referencing each other because the second one did not exist yet.

but like! i think theres something there. in terms of da Themes and Motifs.

(if there are more close readings of pq, id be SUPER curious to find em :3)

#homestuck #hs meta #homestuck beyond canon #hsbc #hsbc spoilers #alt calliope #ult dirk #mspar #mspa reader #pesterquest #friendsim #calliope hs

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whamss · 1 month

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Every now and then I think I'm kind of sleeping on classpect analysis, but also what you have to understand about me is that I'm way less enchanted by the act of defining classes and aspects and way moreso by how individual Characters contextualize their relationship with their aspects and assign meaning to it based on their experiences

Something that I always found striking about late Act 6 Kanaya was the way she recontextualizes her relationship with her aspect as something so specific to her and her own experiences. Something about the juxtaposition between Alt Calliope mapping out hard rules about her classpect, saying "This is what it means to be a Space player" "This is what it means to be X" while Kanaya talks about how her experiences formulated her own relationship with her classpect. It's a fascinating difference between them where I never think that the story tries to say that either of them are Wrong about how they view Space. But there's such an underappreciated depth there where Calliope is demonstrated to be somebody who's obsessed with rules, strict categorization, while Kanaya says "this is what my experiences have told me, this is what Space means to Me." And Alt Calliope saying things like Space players are inseparably tied to loneliness are interesting claims, but also putting these beliefs in context with each other you can just as easily see how Alt Calliope's views of space can be formulated by her lifelong (deathlong) experience with isolation.

I think a big reason that I always found it hard to engage with a lot of classpect analysis is that there's this insistence that classpects must have strict categories that define people, when throughout the comic we consistently see how things like aspects and classes mean different things to different people. The way that Kanaya, Calliope, and Jade all see Space and their relationship to it is so so different, I sort of wonder if they'd have any common ground if they actually discussed it between each other (or wrote their thoughts down and passed it around, as Calliope would undoubtedly dominate that conversation lol). The same goes for Rose and Vriska with Light, the Time players... I don't know, it's striking to me. I can understand why the rumored Hussie Classpect doc is supposedly only a sentence or so per classpect because what do you even say? When the variety of experiences is so broad among them, it's impossible to define Classpects cohesively. Alternatively, aspects are something strictly defined by the meaning that people (characters) assign to them

#talk tag #homestuck #kanaya maryam #alt calliope #also i know that karkat also takes part in the “redefining classpect” (more intricately even) but consider i like kanaya more #and also the technical comparison between two space players is more fun to me #anyways this isnt to say that i dont think classpects have some assigned meaning to them i just leave that particular brand of close readinh #to people who care more about it #i like thinking about parallels between characters with the same classes/aspects though #rose and her ties to vris/rezi #interesting stuff #anyways no shade to actual classpect analysis dhdkdhkd this is just me tossing out some thoughts ive had while skimming logs

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burningdownthehousecomic · 1 month

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BEGIN CHAPTER 3x3 COMBO.

[ NEW PAGES | START READING ]

#homestuck #burning down the house #jane crocker #terezi pyrope #jade harley #alt calliope

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mansuta · 2 months

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shin megami tensei au

#homestuck #june egbert #jade harley #alt calliope #rose lalonde #kanaya maryam #dave strider #shin megami tensei #manstart

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k3agn · 1 month

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Oh man I gotta say the panels for this update are super cool. The art team is doing a kickass job.

Spoilers beneath the bar it does give us an idea of the scope moving forward. I was really hoping the characters were gonna talk about their classes more, but the context for the story is important too I guess.

Alt Calliope’s explanation for why the story has gotten so convoluted and fucked up out of hand in ways unsatisfying to everyone involved is pretty good honestly. Yeah it alludes to the meta of the writers/audience relation to the work, but that honestly is what makes it such a genius choice even if it seems like a cop out on the surface. Homestuck has always been super meta, it’s one of its core pillars, and the new team have been very honest about the state of homestuck and how they feel about some strange story choices they inherited.

I also think it’s really fucking interesting that the house being symbolic of the narrative and that transforming into this convulsed fuckery reminiscent of how the kids built their houses up in Sburb. That imagery is golden. There’s a lot of good art in these updates. So much good art. I would like to beg and plead with both the HICU and Alt Callie though to not deny me further classpect exposition this was RIPE FOR IT.

There might’ve been a bit of it with the way Callie describes their presence, but I think they might’ve been meant as a reference to the abilities of Lord English she got from snack time. Hard to say, though it seems referential.