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guys… i don’t think he’s doing this for all of us
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meraki-sunset · 5 days
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It’s a loop!
Guys i have a wacky theory but, BUT, we know Dirk and Rose are creating 2 different new species to compete with each other on Deltritus, Terezi will judge them and the winner gets to play sburb.
We saw many discarded creatures before the big 3-year hiatus, and when it came back we could see one particular creature, a horroterror looking creature, obviously made by rose.
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So rose is most likely mixing abyssal creatures with her own DNA to make the ultimate Sburb player.
Acording to the MS Paint Adventures Wiki
“ Rose lalonde was never very involved with the show but purchased a shirt and re-purposed it to fit her tastes, which is quite fitting considering that the Squiddles are, in part, a subconscious reimagining of the Horroterrors and the other monsters in the Furthest Ring.”
NOW, Andrew Hussie once said jokingly that the session that created the A1 (the dancestors’s) universe was played by 48 Squiddles, but later deconfirming its canonicity in Book 4's commentary.
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What if they are using that idea again? It’s normal to create stuff, delete it and suddenly dig it out because it can be repurposed for a new idea.
And with the last update confirming Rose’s species to be aquatic I think we’re headed in that direction.
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I think Dirk and Rose will make their 2 species, and rose’s will be horroterror-like creatures. They will win the competition against Dirk’s species (idk probably something related to horse puppet ninjas) and a group of them will play the game.
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Another instance of the squidles real form being abyssal creatures is the very first creature Dirk creates, maybe foreshadowing the winner of the competition?
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Acording to dirk this will be a 4 player session. Which makes the staement of “a 48 squiddles session created Beforus’s universe” false, but still a posible foreshadowing to a more reduced number of the abisal conterpart of the squiddles being responsible for the creation of said universe.
So this Horroterror/squidle people play and win the game, create a universe, and this universe is where Beforus is born (Universe A1), which then gets scratched and creates Alternia (Universe A2), which creates EarthA, the beta kid's home (Universe B1), which also gets scratched and creates EarthB, the alpha kids’s apocaliptical home gobernated by the Condesce (Universe B2), which creates EarthC’s universe, where all the surviving players now live (Universe C), where the Horroterror/squidle people are created, who then win their game, create a universe, and this universe is where Beforus is born(Universe A1) etc, etc, etc.
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There’s only five universes, which feed from each other in a wheel that creates and is created by one another. The Alpha timeline, just like a juju, is a perfect cycle and doesn’t have a beginning or end.
There’s no escape, it’s a loop.
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classpectpokerap · 29 days
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gonna go completely insane for a second here.
was thinking about mspar. who will obviously not. appear in hsbc. bc it makes almost no thematic sense for that to happen
but like… i made a connection. that i want to talk about.
mspar in pq is defined by two things, early on
really, really, really fucking hating the direction the epilogues took the "story", and wanting to take it into their own hands to fix it.
like, the imagery about this being a Bad Thing is pretty unsubtle. in the prologue, mspar literally tramples over homestuck panels, crushing them underfoot. and by the end of pq, what they have done isnt just create a new timeline where "everyone is happy," they've overwritten homestuck to do it. theyve Literally retconned the story and replaced it with their fanon ideas of how to "fix" things. that's why ultdirk and the director have to come and tell you that it needs to stop.
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there's a lot more about mspar's actions in pq being like… pretty unambiguously villain shit, in my reading, but thats a sort of separate ramble to what i wanted to be insane about (let me know if you want me to ramble about. mspar being the bad guy. another time.)
basically. mspar's design looks a hell of a lot like doc scratch. obviously. theyre both round-headed narrators.
doc scratch's textbox is literally just mspar's inverted. theyre foils, in a sense. scratch enables canon while hurting everyone to do it, and mspar enables fanon (…while hurting everyone to do it, differentways.)
and that got me thinking like. a lot of this description i just wrote applies to another character too.
someone in the text who was introduced as a reader of the stories of the heroes, as an author of fanfiction and fanart
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though, obviously meat and candy calliope are accounted for. it's not literally that mspar is calliope. besides, its not even like calliope wears a similar hooded black outfit to them, or makes a huge fucking deal about loathing the complexity of postcanon,
hey wait a minute
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and theyve got a lot in common. even beyond the superficial. for example, they both just. appoint themself as the guardian of their timeline, because they have to "fix" homestuck. (whether the characters in homestuck want this or not.)
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jade harley literally tells *both characters* "well, what if we don't want your protection!!!! why won't you leave us alone!" and then they just sorta ignore her wishes
and the connection keeps going. like. mspar and altcallie have both stood outside of the green sun with aradia and absorbed a canon into themself so they can rewrite it.
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this extremely specific thing they have in common!!!! kinda fucked up!!!!!!
like, im not saying this because i literally think mspar is going to crack their head open and reveal altcallie a la Lord English in that intermission.
but THEMATICALLY.
they have a lot in common.
way more than i realized until literally two days ago!
like mspar is LITERALLY another narrator at least on the scale of ultdirk and doc scratch and the like and LITERALLY ALL OF THEM ARE VILLAINS shdashjfhasfhsajdhgashfkgshjdgsdfgsdhjg. there is stuff to think about.
(conspiracy brain.) and of all the outfits mspar wore in friendsim, it's specifically the black hoodie up that they got sprites for….
anyway.
obviously pesterquest and hsbc werent referencing each other because the second one did not exist yet.
but like! i think theres something there. in terms of da Themes and Motifs.
(if there are more close readings of pq, id be SUPER curious to find em :3)
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jeffmangumscumsock · 1 month
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Do you love the color of the sky?
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From the new Homestuck Beyond Canon update
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disgustedorite · 3 months
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nonverbal yiffany with colorful inner monologue let's goooooooo
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terraco-07 · 3 months
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I love that we finally get to see Kanaya angry for a moment only for Rose to go oh lmao I knew you'd forgive me so it was okay and Jade to talk about her feelings the entire time instead of letting Kanaya talk. Maybe Rose is unreliable here but maaaaaaan HS2 never stops having the weirdest shit moments for the girls does it? Hey, maybe just maybe we can avoid this becoming some fucked up polycule because that is still defcon 1
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catgirlweed · 3 months
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JADE: the world is fucked!!! JADE: and yet, despite all that, yiffy turned out to be so good JADE: and she's mine.
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lesbocrocker · 14 days
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im going to fucking kill myself
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homestuckexamination · 6 months
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Reading the upd8 and I need a refresher. Could Vriska actually use her mind powers on humans? Because it used to be that she could only put them to sleep, same with Aranea (seen a lot in Game Over and around that part). The other explanation was that maybe she could only do that much as the kids were in another universe entirely, but it just seems inconsistent.
Vriska found out Humans even existed when she was 13 and tried to Control them and found out she could only put them to sleep- But that was still proof that psychic powers CAN affect Humans to some extent. Condy never uses Mind Control against the Kids- But she also never uses it against the Trolls, like Kanaya, and resorts mostly to telekinesis, and more offensively-oriented powers- But she DID control Jade using a mixture of Bronze Animal Communion and Cerulean Mind Manipulation.
Vrissy, however, is from a society that has been mixed with Trolls and Humans for millennia, and she's proooobably a Mind Player in particular, which gives her a good mix of traits to be the first Troll to outright control and manipulate Humans. Interestingly, with the Crocker Goons and Tavros, it sounds like she has mostly manipulated those under Jane's thrall, which may be extra susceptible to Mind Manipulation because. Y'know. Jane. Soooooo-
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homestuck-archive · 1 month
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HOMESTUCK: BEYOND CANON UPDATE!! Click to view.
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wakraya · 7 months
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Aww I didn't catch he has that cute plushie/pillow thingy. Bet it was a gift from Roxy.
It's so smooshable...
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What a daring dream.
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↑ close-up of the gang
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classpectpokerap · 1 month
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hey also.
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RUSSET CLOVE FROM WIZARDY HERBERT REFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!! YEAH WE WIN THESE
WOO YEAH WOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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w1z4rd-l1z4rd · 15 days
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Actually a good upd8
Like holy shit.
Dirk is such a bitch, like wow.
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No ur not
U doing it for yourself. Because things started to get out of your control. If it wasn't u, there would be no problems.
Well, almost.
But he's utterly selfish bitch. He does what he does because he can't control himself. His feelings.
He couldn't stop himself from doing epilogues.
And here his trying to convince himself. He doesn't want to be the bad guy. But he can't help himself.
My prediction: candy guys will get out from the black hole, come on the delterus later then the meat crew, and it will be cool cause john will do the windy thing to stop the meteor and all the trees will start moving and then the- the gamma kids will play while john and dirck hatelovingly make out.
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cyber-corp · 4 months
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this is a proper 2009-era joke. well done, no notes
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terraco-07 · 3 months
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The fact that the update was released on Year of The Dragon puts salt on Jade's wounds.
If you don't know, the dragon inthe Chinese zodiac is the opposite of the dog.
Jade's wounds are being a giant pissbaby. But that's what in my opinion she's supposed to be here. For better or worse I don't think any of us are supposed to look at Jade and feel sympathetic after this update. She's throwing a fit about being sad and lonely and she just can't have a normal life (Spoiler, none of them can) so this is actually all Rose's fault! Sorry seeing this update heralded as good has me in a mood
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