#anti gilmore girls

[fandomshatewomen]

I see popular tweets about Gilmore Girls and noticed people always ignore Lorelai was a victim of her parents emotional abuse. Both Richard and Emily tried to control every aspect of Lorelai life and tried to do the same with Rory, so much so that they treated their working class boyfriends badly because they weren't upper class. Furthermore, they are both extremely racist and treat their maids poorly. Lorelai is not perfect but as victim of toxic parents it's terrible to see people defend them+

+There was an episode where Rory was excited to see her grandparents until she discovered that her grandparents lied to her and that party they invided her was actually with high society boys so that she could break up with her boyfriend who didn't belong to their social class. Later they destroyed Lorelai's relationship with Luke, who is also a worker. There is so much manipulation, gaslighting and classicism but people ignore it.

+Just saw another thing: Richard and Emily Gilmore saying white blonde rich men are 'good breeding'. Emily even fantasizes about Rory, her granddaughter, having blond, blue-eyed children. How people really say they are the real good guys of the show????

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YUPPPPPPP there’s a *lot* of classism and racism baked into that show that get’s laughed off as Emily and Richard being a product of their time and like, “harmless” or whatever. Amy Sherman Palladino pulled some similar shit in The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel with the lead character’s parents, only this time she added some antisemitic caricatures, you know, as a treat 🙃

• mod dyr

#gilmore girls #racism #classism #nostalgia goggles #emily gilmore #richard gilmore #lorelai gilmore #rory gilmore #gilmore girls crit #anti gilmore girls #(reminder to filter ‘anti’ tags if you cannot handle seeing criticisms of your faves)

[tracychapmansfastcar]

always gonna be mad about the fact that somebody had hot chocolate and was like "i wish this tasted bad" and invented coffee

#coffee hate club #anti starbucks #anti gilmore girls #anti senorita awesome

[mqrianos]

jess mariano and rory gilmore are literally the SAME people at their core, just in opposite fonts. they MIRROR each other and are each other's TWIN FLAMES. that's exactly why they understand each other better than everyone else (asp herself said so). both are raised by teen moms and have deadbeat dads. yet, one is nurtured with love and care with a mom like lorelai. and the other is abandoned & ignored by a flaky mom like liz. both develop an immense love for reading regardless of whether it became kind of a coping mechanism. both exceed normal expectations of intelligence required for their age. hence, one goes above and beyond, strives for perfection with it, and craves validation while the other could not care less what people think and says "fuck it. rules don't matter anymore for me. i know stuff". one becomes stars hollow's princess, held onto a pedestal by everyone around her. the other becomes stars hollow's pariah, hated by every person he meets. both are under intense scrutiny by people where one is held to exceptionally high standards and the other is seen as "good for nothing". both of them break out of those respective moulds as soon as they become young adults. and both play a pivotal role in helping each other break out of those moulds and still be true to their inner selfs. I COULD WRITE AN ENTIRE TEN-PAGE ESSAY ON THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THEM....I REALLY COULD!

#gilmore girls #jess mariano #literati #jess x rory #rory and jess #rory gilmore #rory x jess #anti rogan #someone help me out of this brainrot #they are SOOOO INSANE #not even shakespeare could write out a love story as complex as theirs #they will FIND THEIR WAY BACK TO EACH OTHER #the collage is just a silly lil thing but omg theyre my pookies

[stellaluna33]

It's interesting to me that, while Dean is very respectful to Lorelai herself, he is at several points pretty disparaging about Rory's relationship with her. "Well, you just feel that way because your mother feels that way," and "I say I love you, and you want to think about it? Go home and discuss it with your mother?"

And Jess is less respectful to Lorelai herself, but he never says anything against Rory's relationship with her, never seems annoyed or resentful of it. He sometimes expresses resentment about Lorelai's hatred of him, but never about Rory's closeness to her, even though he could have at various points and even though he probably doesn't understand it. And it's interesting to me, because Jess antis would probably assume that he's the one who would be saying things like the quotes above, trying to drive a wedge between them, but he never does. It's the "nice" guy that Lorelai likes so much.

#Gilmore Girls #Anti Dean Forester #(for filtering purposes anyway) #Jess Mariano #Like... He doesn't like her but he seems to respect that Rory DOES #And Dean is the opposite. It's SO interesting!

[emmafallsinlove]

#same jess same

#ggedit #ggedits #gilmoregirlsedit #jessmarianoedit #dean forester #jess mariano #reputayswift #tuserhaz #tuserelyn #tusernoa #lorelaigilmo #nessa007 #tsusermeggie #tsusertalia #tsuserannie #tuserella #anti dean forester #gilmore girls #* #he was so right about that

[femmedefandom]

I think the stupidest thing about the whole bracelet debacle in 2x15 is the fact that Jess doesn’t know. He has no idea that the bracelet Rory wore was a gift from Dean and that apparently being his girlfriend means she is contractually obligated to wear it at all times to prevent a meltdown of epic proportions. All he knew was it was her bracelet and it was left right beside him after their friendly lunch/quasi first date…and that she never brought up the fact that is was gone after meeting with him. Jess wasn’t some master plotter or anything in this situation, he didn’t expect to start a fight with Dean or to upset Rory at all. In fact, the moment he finds out about the bracelet, he makes sure the house is empty and puts it right back in Rory’s room. And then Lorelai in all her infinite biased wisdom assumed that he…stole it off her daughter’s wrist without Rory noticing? Snuck in at night and robbed her jewelry box? What did she think happened exactly? And then Jess, who has had maybe 30 minutes tops to process the bracelet and all it’s connotations, hits back with the hardest truth of all. The one that Rory and Lorelai seemed determined not to think too deeply about: if it’s the most precious thing she owns, why did it take Rory two weeks to even notice it being gone?

I love that he says that, partly because I can’t always keep track of time skips in the show but also because it meant that Rory didn’t take it off for two weeks, didn’t put it on in the morning to go to school, didn’t fidget with it while she was distracted, didn’t have it bend a paper or get mashed potatoes on it, didn’t have it roll under her sleeve….she cared so little about this “symbol of Dean” that she was perfectly happy until he blew up about it being gone.

#rory gilmore #gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #jess mariano #lorelai’s unreasonable hatred of jess #anti dean forester #gilmore girls 2x15

[jessmmariano]

If I think about Jess’s childhood/high school years too much I get sad because no one deserves that. And Gilmore Girls just glosses over it.

I get that’s not the tone of the show, but how on earth did Liz get a redemption plot? Meanwhile, so many fans hate Jess just because he made mistakes at seventeen. His mother was an alcoholic and addict who drank while she was pregnant. Jess worked two jobs while in high school so he could be financially secure. It was heavily implied that Liz was constantly dating/marrying men who mistreated her and Jess. Yet so many fans continue to hate Jess.

#Jess deserves better #jess mariano #rory gilmore #gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #stars hollow #luke danes #liz danes #anti liz danes

[staliaqueen]

Mal's Gilmore Girls rewatch: Application Anxiety 3.03

#ggrewatch #gilmore girls #gifs #anti dean forester #gilmoregirlsedit #ggedit #useramys12 #teendramaedit #usergif #userthing #smallscreensource #okay i generally try to gif moments for this series that i haven't really seen giffed before but with this one i couldn't resist lol

[frazzledsoul]

The primary reason Lorelai prefers Dean to Rory's other boyfriends (to the point where it seems that Lorelai is enjoying the relationship far more than Rory is) is because Dean is so controlling and demands that Rory spend every waking moment with him, to the point where she doesn't have time for any outside interests or friends. Rory can't be swayed by the rich kids at Chilton or their hard-partying lifestyle that got Lorelai in trouble if Dean monopolizes all her time (the only person she socializes with there is Paris, another outcast). Her only real friend at Stars Hollow High is Lane, another sheltered only child with a highly constricted social life. Rory is constantly negotiating with Dean to get him to go to events, because he doesn't want her to go alone or to spend time with other people. Much of their time is spent just hanging out with Lorelai, with Dean as a sidekick to Rory and Lorelai's domestic routines. Dean keeps Rory's world small, tied to Lorelai and Stars Hollow, with no room to contemplate life outside of the bubble that Lorelai created. He heavily micromanages Rory's social life and Lorelai likes that, to the point where she is constantly encouraging Rory to not do anything to upset him, to anticipate his wrath, to forget about her attraction to Jess who she tells her doesn't really like her because he moved onto Shane when Rory wouldn't take him seriously as an option. She needs to stay with Dean to make Lorelai happy, because Rory (unwisely) views her as having better judgment in romantic matters and she wants to please her mom.

Jess is a threat because he reminds Lorelai of the person she was when she was a teenager, wild and rebellious and itching to escape from the life she didn't want. Jess is not made for Stars Hollow: he represents all of the art and the literature and the worldly adventures that Rory dreams of experiencing someday. He's a force that's going to pull her away, and Rory is sexually and intellectually attracted to him, having outgrown the safety of her tightly controlled relationship with her dimwitted beanpole of a boyfriend. Jess doesn't want to be part of Stars Hollow life, he wants his time with Rory to be with her only, and if she wants to do the cheesy town stuff that's cool with him because he doesn't seek to control her every waking moment. He can have his interests and she can have hers and their time alone can belong to them and both Lorelai and Rory...have a hard time adjusting to this. There's definitely some middle ground to be had here, but Jess doesn't want to do what Stars Hollow expects him to do because they hate him anyway and I'm pretty sure Rory was his first serious girlfriend, so he was out of his depth even if he wanted to conform...and he was too emotionally damaged to be much good to anyone at that point anyway. That said, Rory does seem to make an effort to socialize the most among the Stars Hollow crew while they are together and do her own Chilton stuff, so maybe it was in her best interest not to be tied to someone who insisted on controlling every single thing she did.

Logan is a mixed bag, because prior to getting involved with him Rory was alone for an entire year and hated it. She struggles at the paper, doesn't make any real friends at Yale except for Marty, comes home every weekend, and eventually gets involved with Dean again because she wants to relive her youth before realizing they actually don't have anything in common. She's sucked in by Logan's lifestyle and his hard-partying ways but she hasn't really let herself be involved in this kind of thing before, so she enjoys it until she doesn't. Logan doesn't actively seek to control her, she's always there by choice, and he never tells her she can't hang out with other people or do things on her own...but she still gets subsumed by him because it's what her primary experience of being a girlfriend is. When Jess goes to find her in Hartford, she has no idea of what to do in the city because even though she's lived there for six months, she still defaults to doing what her boyfriend wants to do.

I think this does get better in the seventh season, because she did gain a little bit of independence after she got back together with Logan, but also because he's elsewhere, his entire supporting cast of characters isn't around, and she's forced to make friends on her own and deal with things that don't revolve around her significant other. (Also, their relationship is relatively stable, so even though there is tension with Marty and Lucy, it's not really an insurmountable obstacle). She seems to have learned by that point it's okay to argue with your partner and not have it be the end of the world and to have parts of your life that don't revolve around him, either.

Of course, that is not ASP, even if it was something that needed to happen. It seems that the patterns set up early with Dean and Lorelai controlled Rory's life for a long time and negatively influenced how she interacted with the other guys. Remove AYITL from the equation (yes, please) and it puts Rory in a position to reconcile with Jess on the campaign trail or afterwards, because she's finally able to entertain the thought of maintaining an independent existence while being part of a couple.

#meta #rory gilmore #not sure where i was going with this but whatever #gilmore girls #anti dean forester #jess mariano #logan huntzberger

[rogersstevie]

“the verbal thing comes and goes.” jess + not being monosyllabic

#gilmoregirlsedits #gilmoregirlsedit #ggedit #tvedit #jessmarianoedit #rorygilmoreedit #literatiedit #jess mariano #gilmore girls #gg 2x16 #my gifs #mine: gilmore girls #jessverbal #i do appreciate being able to put more gifs into a set now #he was really trying to protect her and even then comes what is arguably the scariest dean scene #like you gotta think if not for paris' presence and intervening #(and you gotta think there are probably reasons both for her and jess to see that kind of anger and try to stop it) #it might've been so much worse #anti dean forester #100

[gilmoreposting]

Rory thanking her boyfriend for not being mad at her for wanting to spend a night alone is genuinely such a terrible sign. All she wanted to do is have a night in and do laundry, and her boyfriend thinks his a "saint" for allowing her to do that???

#gilmore girls #anti dean forester #2 ep 16 #i'm rewatching gilmore girls for the billionth time #if you're a dean fan block me now

[weepynymph]

ALSO

I've just noticed when lorelai and rory are fighting about rory sleeping with dean, the exact point at which rory storms out and says 'i hate you for ruining this for me!' is after lorelai says 'but you broke up with him [dean]. you picked someone else.'

Like out everything she says that's the thing that has rory running out of the room - the tiniest hint of jess' existence. his name isn't even mentioned.

I will die on the hill that rory sleeping with dean has EVERYTHING to do with what happened with jess the episode before and the fact that she still loves him but wishes she didn't and kind of wishes she'd never met him and by extension never broke up with dean and is trying to put things back the way that they were.

#like COME ON #hes all over this season even when he isn't physically there or even mentioned by name #rory gilmore #jess mariano #gilmore girls #literati #jess x rory #anti dean forester #lorelai gilmore #gilmore girls meta #literati meta

[mqrianos]

desperately need to know what they were talking about here.....

#jess mariano #literati #gilmore girls #anti rogan #rory and jess #jess x rory #rory gilmore #rory x jess #jess and rory #their s2 era is something sooo personal to me #i love them your honor

[stellaluna33]

I think about that conversation where Rory calls Dean "safe" a lot. Like, in what way is Dean "safe"? She, with the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia, is comparing Dean's predictability with Jess's unpredictability, of course, but Dean had also dumped Rory TWICE by this point (and would dump her again!) and blamed it on her both times! He blames every problem in their relationship on her, actually! How is that "safe"?! But I've been thinking about it, I think a lot of it comes down to Rory's issues with control. Rory as a character likes to have all her ducks in a row, everything listed and planned (though she occasionally veers to the other impulsive extreme, which is interesting). She doesn't like feeling out of control of herself, her feelings, or what happens to her. So, in contrast to how I might feel about it, Dean constantly blaming her and breaking up with her feels "safe" to her because she can tell herself that SHE chose the outcome of the relationship. Everything is her fault, which means SHE decided it would be this way. Dean broke up with her because SHE didn't appreciate him enough, and that was her choice! Dean is mad at her because SHE studied too much or talked to the wrong person, and that was her choice! Everything is her fault means Nothing is Dean's fault equals "Dean never did anything bad to me." If Dean yells at her, it's because she deserved it, which means that everything is the way it's supposed to be! Predictable input-> output. Safe. It's what she chose. Rory is in control of her fate!

And Jess... She could control absolutely nothing about Jess. She couldn't control how she felt about him! She didn't want to fall in love with him, and she fell anyway. She was simply overwhelmed by it, without her own consent. She couldn't control her feelings, and she couldn't control the outcome of their relationship either. Jess leaving had nothing to do with her! But instead of that being a consolation, it was terrifying, because that meant there was nothing she could do about it. Jess crashed into her life and her heart and then was gone like a summer storm, and she was just as powerless to prevent either one. And she had found that kind of thrilling once upon a time, but now he's lost and what's to prevent him from slipping through her fingers yet again? It's out of her hands.

Her feelings for Dean are manageable. They're not going to overwhelm her and make her feel out of control. He's nice to her, because when he's not nice, she deserved it. This is what "safe" feels like.

#Gilmore Girls #Rory Gilmore #Anti Dean Forester #(just for filtering purposes) #Literati #(adjacent) #She definitely starts her 'friends with benefits' thing with Logan thinking it's something she can control too #Whoopsies that didn't work either haha #Before you know it you're crying on the bathroom floor #And saying things like 'I can't help it- I'm in love with him.' #But the intent was there haha

[emmafallsinlove]

#ggedit #ggedits #gilmoregirlsedit #ggnetwork #rorygilmoreedit #parisgelleredit #paris x rory #paris gellar #rory gilmore #anti logan huntzberger #tsusertalia #tsuserannie #tusernoa #usermalcfoy #userdanahscott #reputayswift #nessa007 #lorelaigilmo #gilmore girls #* #team paris all the way really!!! #rory nodding in the background is everything lmaooo

[bisexualpunk]

the first scene that lays the groundwork of jess’s character (luke explaining the situation to lorelai in his apartment) is actually so interesting and telling in regards to liz’s character, especially considering the direction they decide to go when they introduce/develop her.

luke puts the blame for jess getting into trouble and acting out and liz sending him to stars hollow solely on liz’s shoulders. he says she probably only gave it five minutes of thought. he says she gave up on jess and he doesn’t sound the least bit surprised. he says it’s obvious liz is the problem and that jess needs to get away from her because she’s a “nutjob” and a “selfish basket case.”

luke knows who his sister is. he knows the kind of damage that can be inflicted on a kid being raised by her. and this does paint a really dark picture for jess’s home life and upbringing and it’s sad that he wasn’t viewed through the lens of being a very damaged kid by the characters or even by some of the audience after we get that kind of a rundown.

but then we meet liz. and we see her interact with jess. and we see how she affects him. and like. i just don’t understand how the narrative shifts so suddenly to paint liz as this free spirit that’s earned her son’s love and forgiveness and jess as a kid who is holding a grudge against her and being petty when he should be sucking it up and accommodating her.

and i really don’t understand the leniency given to liz because she’s “changed and bettered herself” but not to jess for overcoming the incredibly awful hand he was dealt

#jess mariano #anti liz danes #luke danes #gilmore girls #charlie rambles