#antoinette brown

[mrsdulac]

#no notes #just me living vicariously through claudia #also this has been in my drafts for weeks #interview with the vampire #claudia #claudia de pointe du lac #antoinette brown

[brotherconstant]

“A bond like that makes you believe there are only two of you on the planet. Freedom and chastity wrapped in one person.” “But there were three of you.”

#iwtvedit #iwtv #interview with the vampire #louis de pointe du lac #lestat de lioncourt #claudia #claudia iwtv #antoinette brown #beegifs #vampterview

[thomas-the-goat-of-satan]

crazy how Lestat spent like, twenty years fucking a woman that he didn't even really like on a platonic level because he was so deranged and feral that he was like, "well if my husband really loved me, he'd want me to fucking KILL her! and the fact that he hasn't explicitly requested that I murder this woman is proof that he actually hates my guts and is waiting for the soonest opportunity to rip my heart out and leave me." and Louis, who is equally as insane but slightly better at pretending that he's not, knows what Lestat is waiting for. and he wants Lestat to kill her too! but he could never ask, because he refuses to lose. lose what, who knows. and so for twenty years, he stows away in his coffin and repeats a nightly mantra of, "I want her dead I want her dead I want her dead I WANT HER DEAD-" and then he wakes up and is like, "of course you're welcome to see her, Lestat my beloved, I'm totally cool with this!" because he's a total liar.

#and then Claudia is like 'I'll throw you both a bone; kill her or we're gonna kick you out again' and Lestat is like 'NO!' #'how dare YOU tell me what to do you demon!' #and even when the topic is on the table Louis still refuses to ask #because he's not a LOSER I guess #interview with the vampire #loustat #lestat de lioncourt #louis de pointe du lac #antoinette brown #show #cloey talks iwtv #mine

[fayevalcntine]

Interview with the Vampire (2022) | 1.07, "The Thing Lay Still"

#iwtvedit #interview with the vampire #amc interview with the vampire #iwtv #vampireedit #tw blood #cinemapix #adaptationsdaily #louis de pointe du lac #claudia #claudia iwtv #lestat de lioncourt #antoinette brown #not enough people mention this part tbh

[nalyra-dreaming]

Well, they like playing with us that’s for sure…

#interview with the vampire #iwtv #amc iwtv #lestat de lioncourt #amc interview with the vampire #louis de pointe du lac #iwtv amc #iwtv 2022 #antoinette brown #claudia de lioncourt #daniel molloy #wake up #Instagram

[neverswungonswingingstars]

Lestat with Louis vs Antoinette

#interview with the vampire #iwtv #sam reid #jacob anderson #amc iwtv #amc interview with the vampire #iwtvedit #lestat de lioncourt #louis de pointe du lac #antoinette brown #loustat #mp

[prettynerdieworks]

#Interview with the Vampire #IWTV #Sam Reid #Lestat #Lestat de Lioncourt #Jacob Anderson #Louis de Pointe du Lac #The Vampire Chronicles #Lestat x Louis #Louis x Lestat #Loustat #IWTV AMC #Interview of the Vampire AMC #*tv #*gifs #Antoinette Brown

[brotherconstant]

INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE 1x03 Is My Very Nature That of the Devil He would do his killing away from me now, out of respect, he said, for the choice I had made. The frolicking repeated itself every night for two weeks. They would add another song to their set and work on another at night, while I tried to adapt to my new diet.

#iwtv #interview with the vampire #iwtvedit #louis de pointe du lac #antoinette brown #lestat de lioncourt #beegifs #vampterview

[rosesocietyy]

Imagine agreeing to chop off your finger just for a smidge of some french white dick.....

#ANTOINETTEEEEEE #STAND UPPPPP #or go die #like damn #interview with the vampire #iwtv #interview with the vampire spoilers #antoinette brown #lestat de lioncourt #amc iwtv spoilers

[thomas-the-goat-of-satan]

#interview with the vampire #daniel molloy #lestat de lioncourt #claudia #antoinette brown #paul de pointe du lac #louis de pointe du lac #armand #show #i make things sometimes #cloey talks iwtv #mine

[nalyra-dreaming]

I enjoy your blog and I’m not trying to be argumentative; just some friendly debate, but I notice you and Virginia both frequently reduce the entire Antoinette ordeal to Louis’ feeding habits and Lestat’s need for attention and adoration. Don’t you think Lestat had to have at least a little love for Antoinette? He had to love her on some level not to kill her right off the bat. This is apparent in the scene before Louis is playing cards before Doris tells him Jonah is there, Lestat is standing up close to the stage, completely entranced watching Antoinette perform like there is no one else in the room. Louis isn’t even present to make jealous. He slept with her and didn't kill her before Loustat was having serious problems like lack of intimacy. He stayed with her just as long as he stayed with Louis. I’m sorry, but I don’t think that man ever had any intention of being in a monogamous relationship.

Hey nonny!

(All good, you can be argumentative, as long as you're kind it's all fine, I just won't accept hate or insults anymore^^, hope that makes sense! Also, I really don't see that as argumentative^^)

I think @virginiaisforvampires and I just ... shorten the Antoinette discussion at times (by now) because it's been... a theme.

Like, the fandom latched onto the jealousy angle so massively, the asks wrt her were so numerous, the human cheating AUs on Ao3 so prevalent... the vampiric aspect seems to be often overlooked.

I think you're referring to my ask with the open relationship?

Because of course Antoinette was more.

(this is long, so the rest under the cut:)

She became more when he did not kill her as a feeding fling. (And I still stand by the fact that they must have had a lot of feeding flings, for example Louis is not really taken aback by soldiers in their bedroom - the same bedroom he gets so sharp about with Antoinette, which is another detail.)

So yes, Lestat apparently slept with her and didn't kill her. We don't get to see it, but it is insinuated.

But there is a lot more to Antoinette, and that is why some think she might show up again later. I am not sure if you're familiar with "the musician" from IWTV, "Antoine" from the later books?

Let me recap:

In IWTV we have the unnamed "musician". Louis never bothers to find out his name, even though it is clear that Lestat turns him. That unnamed musician then gets into the crossfire of Claudia's attempt on Lestat's life, and Louis... forgets about him. But he did know about him from the beginning:

"Lestat had a musician friend in the Rue Dumaine. We had seen him at a recital in the home of a Madame LeClair, who lived there also, which was at that time an extremely fashionable street; and this Madame LeClair, with whom Lestat was also occasionally amusing himself, had found the musician a room in another mansion nearby, where Lestat visited him often. I told you he played with his victims, made friends with them, seduced them into trusting and liking him, even loving him, before he killed. So he apparently played with this young boy, though it had gone on longer than any other such friendship I had ever observed." [..] "I could not tell whether he had actually become fond of a mortal in spite of himself or was simply moving towards a particularly grand betrayal and cruelty. Several times he’d indicated to Claudia and me that he was headed out to kill the boy directly, but he had not. And, of course, I never asked him what he felt because it wasn’t worth the great uproar my question would have produced. Lestat entranced with a mortal! He probably would have destroyed the parlor furniture in a rage."

(Interesting tidbit about the rage, which they picked up for the show!)

Louis even encounters Antoine, has a bit of a discussion with him after the initial attack on Lestat:

‘What is it?’ I asked him. ‘What did you need from him? I’m sure he would want me to...’ “ ‘He was my friend!’ He turned on me suddenly, his voice dropping with repressed outrage.

This last bit is important, for the later books, most importantly for "Prince Lestat", which we know Rolin takes from. Because in that book, in chapter 7, we find out what happened to "the musician", Antoine, after that fateful night, when Rue Royale burned (in the book).

Because Antoine did not burn to death (in the show, likely: Louis and Claudia did not know to scatter the ashes), and he survives, hideously burned, needing decades to heal. Lestat reunites with him before he chases after Louis and Claudia (to Europe).

When Antoine later tells of his own story, he says this:

“He was my friend, Lestat,” Antoine confessed. “He told me about his lover, Nicolas, who had been a violinist. He said he couldn’t speak his heart to his little family, to Louis or Claudia, that they would laugh at him. So he spoke his heart only to me.”

There is a LOT in that little paragraph. A lot that fits with what we know from the show, too.

Louis (in the show) tells of Lestat saying that "Antoinette fortifies him against them". Antoinette became more than a passing interest, a passing feeding fling, true, because Lestat can confide in her, can be himself with her, especially later, when things between him and Louis take on a strain. But he never leaves Louis, and I think that is often overlooked - (s)he was never a real threat to Louis, nor Claudia. Lestat left Antoine behind when he goes after them, to try to save them.

Louis on the show makes it seem as if Antoinette was that major threat. And the show (of course^^), sharpened that threat by making Antoine a woman, a white woman, whose very presence represented what Louis could not be in their relationship at the time, namely an official partner.

Louis uses the focus on Antoinette and what she represents to overshadow other things that coincide with the affair. He does the same later, when they are threatened, to shift the focus to Lestat's paranoia. It's clever, because it's built on truth, a "look at my right hand, not at my left" approach. But the real story is much more difficult than that.

And I think that goes for Antoine(tte) as well.

Since Rolin is specifically taking from "Prince Lestat" as well there is no way in hell he has somehow missed reading chapter 7, or has missed Antoine in the later books/chapters.

I for one wouldn't be surprised if she shows up at the trial - or in Dubai. Maybe she's that interior designer, who knows that Louis is missing the natural world....

I don't know. We'll see. But I doubt that the jealousy angle is all there is to it. There are too many discrepancies, even down to the make-up they used for her (which is its own meta). Lestat may have very well loved her, albeit differently than he loves Louis.

As for the monogamous relationship(s)...

Nonny, forgive me, but these are not humans. They are vampires.

They hunt, and kill humans, for food and pleasure. They play with their food, like other predators in our world do, too. They are also inherently hedonistic, looking for pleasure. (Maybe) Especially Lestat is trying to drown himself in the pleasurable things at times, for reasons that the show will still get to. Since the show explicitly added sex to the mix that desire is of course expressed in the hunt for pleasure, too.

But totally apart from "food", and sex... these vampires are a mess, relationship-wise.

When Lestat and Louis are "married" in the later books as Jacob calls it (I bet they'll make that literal in the show^^), that doesn't mean that they don't still love others. Have loved others. Will love others. They are beyond the need to narrow down their love though. And they are "official partners" then.

But it's... a knot of relationships and history.

Some of these people are truly immortal. Like, can not be killed anymore.

Imagine living with that fact (it maybe most famously sends Lestat reeling in "The tale of the Body Thief", for example).

Imagine loving with that fact. Imagine having the time.

#Anonymous #asks #ask nalyra #amc iwtv #iwtv #amc interview with the vampire #interview with the vampire amc #iwtv amc #iwtv 2022 #interview with the vampire #lestat de lioncourt #louis de pointe du lac #loustat #antoinette brown #book quotes #prince lestat #antoine

[mademoisellebianx]

Bailey Bass as Claudia in 𝕀𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕣𝕧𝕚𝕖𝕨 𝕨𝕚𝕥𝕙 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕍𝕒𝕞𝕡𝕚𝕣𝕖 S01E07: The Thing Lay Still

#claudia #claudia iwtv #interview with the vampire #antoinette brown #mademoiselle's edits #iwtv (tv series) #iwtv spoilers #immortal universe

[bilestat]

they’re evil for this lmao

#😭 #iwtv #interview with the vampire #iwtv meme #lestat de lioncourt #louis de pointe du lac #antoinette brown #my stuff #not really but I wanna be able to find it again

[the-breath-in-air]

On why Antoinette had to be a woman...

...specifically, a cis white woman.

I mean, I say "had" to be a cis white woman...and it's fiction so nothing "has" to be the way it is. But I do think that in order to tell the story they're trying to tell, it only works with Antoinette being a cis white woman. She is meant to represent a white heteronormativity.

I was a bit worried at first that the show would position Lestat's affair with Antoinette as a straight forwardly "socially acceptable" relationship in contrast to his complicated situation with Louis and Claudia. Worried because it becomes thorny and a bit biphobic when a bi character in a relationship with someone of the 'opposite' gender is portrayed as a bi person choosing heteronormativity.

BUT here's why I think it works here, and why I don't think it'd work any other way. Because here, the point of it is that Lestat is unable (or unwilling to) confront the fact of his own whiteness and deal with how that impacts his relationship with Claudia and Louis.

And Lestat thinks his past trauma plus his existence as a vampire, entitles him to a life in which he gets everything he wants. He believes that he is entitled to an uncomplicated relationship in which his partner acts more as a follower. Lestat believes he's entitled to a relationship in which he makes all the rules.

And in episode 6, we hear outright that Lestat is basically using Antoinette as a source of simple pleasure. He is clearly not treating her like a whole person with wants and needs of her own. Lestat thinks he's entitled to the affair he's having with Antoinette. But even that is a delusion because he can't handle it when Antoinette starts making demands of her own.

So this isn't a story of a bi man falling in love with a woman and then people accusing the bi man of choosing heteronormativity. This is the story of a white bi man choosing to use an affair with a cis white woman as a simplistic escape from the complexities of his relationship with his gay Black partner and their Black sister/daughter.

And that has more to do with Lestat's whiteness and patriarchal mindset than it does his bisexuality.

#iwtv #amc iwtv #amc interview with the vampire #interview with the vampire #lestat de lioncourt #antoinette brown #louis de pointe du lac #heteronormativity

[thomas-the-goat-of-satan]

#interview with the vampire #claudia #antoinette brown #lestat de lioncourt #louis de pointe du lac #show #i make things sometimes #iwtv reductress #cloey talks iwtv #mine

[vandrawsing]

episode 6... one big pyjama party

#amc ivtw #amc iwtv fanart #iwtv* #louis de pointe du lac #lestat de lioncourt #claudia #antoinette brown #i love all #their outfits to bits i really do