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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Yall realize this means that the MOST MINOR MIRACLE that Crowley and Aziraphale are capable of performing, when done together, could bring back 25 people from the dead??? Next season, if they ever realize their true power, it is going to be over for heaven AND hell
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uksares-diary · 9 months
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Good Omens Season 2 spoilers ahead, obviously.
So I, like all us fans, was screaming-crying-throwing hands at the Last Ten Minutes of Episode Six, shouting that Aziraphale better be already preparing that apology dance, the bastard.
But when I calmed down a bit, I realised the person I was actually mad at — was Crowley.
It's no wonder that it was he, and not Aziraphale, who got the talk about not communicating enough. Because it was he who wanted something else out of their relationship and never said a word.
To Aziraphale, they were already an "us" after Armageddidnt. He was with Crowley, not hiding from Heaven or Hell, calling the Bentley "our car", casually touching him etc. I don't think he even thought about more physical relationship, and, apart from that, they really were an item from his point of view.
And he never stopped being an angel and wanting to do good. He totally wouldn't go back to Heaven and betray Crowley, but that's not what he was offered! He was manipulated into thinking that he was going to be in a position of power, able to actually make a difference, and with Crowley by his side.
And the Second Coming? Aziraphale only learned that it was what Heaven was planning when he took that elevator. But Crowley? Crowley knew. And never bothered to tell his angel. And now Aziraphale is going to face the music alone.
So... yeah. If you wanted kisses and holding hands, if what you had was not enough for you, then maybe you should have said something sooner, Crowley.
Not withholding the important information or acting like you were betrayed by Aziraphale just being himself.
I wish them a happy ending, I do. I love them both. I just don't think it's only Aziraphale who has to learn something out of all this.
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maddiemaynot · 5 years
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Other Angels and Demons
Okay but I like to think that there are more angels and demons like Crowley and Aziraphale. That the whole concept of the Great Plan didn’t quite sit right with them. But they weren’t given the same opportunities as Crowley and Aziraphale.
Crowley and Aziraphale get to live on Earth. They get to fall in love with small restaurants and old books and music. They get to see first-hand what the war would destroy. And they have each other. Aziraphale, the angel, bringing out the underlying goodness in Crowley. Crowley, the demon, bringing out the inherent badness in Aziraphale. Each making the other more human. So it’s only natural that Crowley is instantly opposed to the idea of Armageddon and that it only takes two or three days for Aziraphale to come around to that way of thinking too.
(And we could discuss that further too: Crowley’s a demon. His fall was because he “only asked questions”. It’s in his entire nature to ask questions. So when faced with the concept of Armageddon, it’s only natural to him that he question it. Whereas Aziraphale, despite being something of a “bad” angel, he’s not actually there outright asking the questions that got Crowley expelled from Heaven, so after 6000 years of NOT asking questions, it makes sense  that he would take a little while to come around to speaking his thoughts out loud.
And then we can take this digression even further to speak about that concept versus the concept of their relationship: How Crowley is saying “I Love You” to Aziraphale in every way he can, but it takes Aziraphale so much longer to actually admit those feelings to himself. But as much as I am HERE FOR THAT, that’s not the point of this post. But the parallels are there and I might write about them later or another day.)
So where was I? Oh yes. So Crowley and Aziraphale are experiencing exactly what they will lose if they don’t stop Armageddon. Their comfortable lives on earth, and each other.
But I want to think about the other angels and demons. Perhaps they remember the Fall. They remember what they lost, the friends who became their enemies. They would remember the devastation it caused.
So when they are presented with the End of Days, maybe they start to think that “Perhaps this isn’t such a good idea?”.
The angels, they wouldn’t say it. They’re inherently obedient. They are told that Armageddon is God’s Great Plan, and so despite any misgivings, they would continue to do as they are ordered. They prepare for the war, all the while quietly thinking to themselves ‘this is wrong’.
The demons might say it, but then again perhaps not. Demons are not obedient by nature, but hell has ways of making it’s denizens do what is asked of them. We see examples of it in the treatment of the oh-so-aptly named Disposable Demon. He gets thrown in with the hell hound, he has his throat ripped out by Hastur, is dissolved by Hastur. We see the Usher demon get thrown into the bath of Holy Water, just to check it’s legitimately Holy. So the chances of those reluctant demons also saying what is on their minds – that perhaps another war isn’t such a good idea – are quite slim.
Crowley and Aziraphale, however, they say it. They say it out loud and with fury and fervour. They all but scream it from the rooftops, and eventually Armageddon becomes Armageddidnt (another fandom thing that I adore so much).
So what I’m thinking is that perhaps that paves the way for other angels and demons to start questioning their orders.
Angels see Aziraphale outright question his superiors, and then they see Heaven’s treatment of him afterwards. They see him get dragged up to Heaven and thrown into Hellfire, with no trial. (I will never stop yelling about the fact that he had no trial). And they see him survive this. He can still perform miracles, he is still an angel. There are no consequences from God Herself. They begin to realise that as long as they are doing the right thing, then it doesn’t matter whether that comes hand in hand with questioning their superiors.
Then you have the demons: They see Crowley all but spit in Beelzebub’s face. They see him murder Ligur. They are present at his trial in Hell, and see that Hell will stop at nothing with their torture – even throwing someone into a bathtub of Holy Water. But he survives. And they begin to go back to the old ways of thinking, before The Fall. They asked questions then, and maybe it is time to start asking questions again. They think to themselves: “We fought for free will, the gift God gave the humans but not the angels. We fought for a choice. Hell is taking our choices from us. This is not what we signed up for.”
More and more angels and demons moving down to and up to Earth. Settling down and opening small businesses that are barely noticed.
More and more angels and demons interacting with one another. Remembering that they are in fact from the same original stock. (I would go so far as to say maybe even more angel-demon romances, but I am also very fond of the idea that Crowley and Aziraphale are unique in at least that respect).
After Armageddidnt, Crowley says “perhaps the big one is all of us against all of them.”
I don’t think he’s exactly wrong, but I think perhaps the battle is going to be more than that. I think it will be the battle for Free Will.
It will go beyond simply some rabble-rousing angels being cast out from Heaven for asking “Why?” (Looking at you here, Lucifer!)
It will be all these new angels and demons, and Crowley and Aziraphale, and humanity, fighting for their right to Free Will, against those angels and demons that believe the law should be followed to the letter.
And it will be big and it will be fabulous, and I believe, truly, that the side of Free Will will win, because it has the capacity to make decisions that are creative and different.
Angels being good for the sake of being good, damn whatever Heaven says.
Demons being bad because they want to be, not because they’re told to be.
It’s a long thought, but quite a lovely one, I think.
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LONG POST IS LONG
I tried to put a page break in this but I wrote the whole thing in a sleep-deprived rage at three AM on tumblr mobile and apparently it’s uneditable now, you all have to just take my screaming as it is
I’m so surprised and confused every time someone’s like “Aziraphale’s totally gonna fall after the Not-Apocalypse” or like “weird that after everything Aziraphale is still an angel” because no, it really really ISNT. Aziraphale’s the safest angel in existence on that front. Aziraphale will never, ever Fall.
Like, look. Obviously we all agree and accept that Crowley isn’t a Baddie, and Aziraphale definitely isn’t a super pure all the time Goodie. And, like, fuck all the other angels, they’re super huge colossal throbbing dicks, so obviously being a shining example of a good person isn’t the real qualifying factor on the whole angel vs demon divide. Beyond that, based on the way Aziraphale flaunts the rules left and right—LIES right to God’s fucking FACE about his flaming sword—clearly, clearly it’s not obedience either.
So I think the thing that separates angels and demons, for real, isn’t Good and Bad like they all seem to believe, it’s *Faith*.
Crowley didn’t Fall because he was a Bad Guy, he fell because he questioned God, and he’s still questioning Her. He has faith in things he can know and understand and hold in his hands, and She won’t give him that. He hates it when Aziraphale tells him things are Ineffable, unknowable; come on, Aziraphale, what’s going on, is this really for the best? Why, why why why? If She’s really got a plan, and it’s really Good, I can’t see it, so I can’t believe it. And so Crowley’s lack of faith makes him a demon, but it also lets him be a good person—if it’s not Ineffable, if it’s not a Great Plan written in the stars since time immemorial, then it’s not written in stone. It’s changeable. It’s—like the Apocalypse—avertable! FUCK the Great Plan, Crowley’s a demon AND a good guy and the world doesn’t have to come to an end!
But Aziraphale. Gluttonous, Greedy, Angel of Earth Aziraphale. Aziraphale isn’t following the rules, but he has Faith, capital-F-Faith. God’s not bad, the plan isn’t bad—so they must be bad angels, right? The plan is Ineffable, it’s unknowable, we don’t know for sure what She wants because She’s not talking to us anymore, but I’m an angel and I do Good and this is Good. Humans and humanity and an earth that keeps on spinning. God told the angels to Love and by God, Aziraphale Loves. He LOVES Earth. He LOVES us, stupid brilliant good evil humankind. And that’s where Aziraphale gets off the metaphorical train to the Apocalypse that’s carrying along all the rest of the angels (who, by the way, all have Faith, too. This is God’s Great Plan and they will Fight the Evil Demons and they will Win The Great War because this is what God wants, this is the end to this great poker game She has set up in the dark. They have Faith. They BELIEVE).
God made humans, and She made Earth, and even after the Flood and the Crucifixion and the French Revolution and the Nazis and every last terrible thing, for Aziraphale and his faith there’s still—the first rain over Eden, and the rainbow, and oysters in Rome, and Shakespeare at the Globe. Sushi, bow ties, rare books. Dinner at the Ritz.
And, of course, there’s Crowley, who’s as much a part of the answer as he is part of the question: are we really understanding Her correctly? Not questioning Her, not exactly, just Heaven’s interpretation of Her words. Are we playing checkers, while She plays chess?
Aziraphale looks at what he’s told is right by the other angels compared to what he’s seen, what he Knows, and he bets it all in the end on pure faith. Faith in himself. Faith in Crowley. Faith in humans. Faith in Her, pure fucking faith! Depressing as it is, he’s even got Faith that if he’s got it wrong, if he HAS misunderstood, then he will lose entirely and utterly because even if it’s not what he wants, not what he believes, She has a Plan and it will happen as it will.
But of course he hasn’t got it wrong. Aziraphale is fucking RIGHT, we all know that. Humanity can see it, even if all of Heaven and Hell can’t. We ate the apple, didn’t we? The Tree of Life, the Knowledge of Good and Evil—we know. Aziraphale had Faith, and Aziraphale got it RIGHT, and I firmly believe that Gabriel and Michael and Uriel and Sandalphon and every fucking wank-wings wandering around the sterile corporate nightmare that is Above is on the list to Fall from Heaven before Aziraphale.
If the angels could make him Fall, if Heaven alone could make him Fall, they’d have done it and never bothered with all that overcomplicated Hellfire business. But they can’t. It’s not up to them, it’s up to HER. And fuck the other angels, fuck Heaven and Hell, fuck the Apocalypse As It Was Written. If She didn’t knock him down Below for lying with Her voice in his ears and Her divine light shining like a spotlight in his face, there’s no fucking way she’s doing it for being the only blessed angel on earth (pun fully intended) who has Faith, and Love, and Hope. Who looks Inevitability in the eye and says I think NOT. Who does what’s Right and not just what he’s told. Who sees a tablet carved unchanging and unchangeable out of stone and remembers that angels bend reality every day, all the time; angels do bloody Miracles.
And it works! She lets him do it!
If there was ever a moment when he might Fall, it was just before Armageddidnt, before he made his choice to go on Faith and Good and What Was Right as opposed to what Gabriel and Michael and the Metatron told him, where the conflict between the two could have broken his faith; but it didn’t, and he didn’t, and now that trial has been passed. He was right, and he knows it, and he doesn’t ever have to doubt that. Faith unbroken, faith REWARDED.
No way he’s Falling now. No way.
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armageddidnt · 8 months
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Welcome to My Collection of Random Thoughts during my nth* rewatch of Good Omens Season 2
*only amazon prime knows the exact number at this point but I’m fairly certain it’s in the double digits
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Episode 1: Gabriel’s fly lurking in the box when Aziraphale first takes it inside 👀
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Crowley’s promise of “two minutes” basically means that he’s been homeless and living in his car for the past 4 years strictly so that he can be within 2 driving minutes of Aziraphale at all times in case his angel needs him I’m not crying you are
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So here I think the key word is “fragile,” Crowley knows they are ostensibly safe from their respective sides but that could change at any moment so he’s basically spent the last 4 years in anxiety-ridden terror hovering as close to Aziraphale as he can to try and protect him from heaven, hell, and anyone else that would want to bring him harm after all that business they pulled in season 1 with stopping Armageddon
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Episode 2: I just happened to pause the episode while Aziraphale is lying to the angels about his miracle and LOL Michael really outdid himself here (Sheen, not the Archangel)
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Gabriel trying to swat flies and almost smashing the repository of every single one of his memories
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I’m cAckling
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So if Good Omens exists in Good Omens, does that mean Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett exist in Good Omens?? Do you think they based their Aziraphale and Crowley characters on Aziraphale and Crowley??
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Episode 3: So I’m trying to find any hints or foreshadowing of the Gabriel Beelzebub thing bc tbh I did kind of feel like it came out of nowhere which is really the only issue I have with them. I found this one scene where Beelzebub almost ?? seems to be concerned about Gabriel ?? But it’s blink and you miss it and there could be lots of other reasons why Beelzebub doesn’t want to fail in locating Gabriel (pressure from/leverage over heaven, etc) so idk
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More Foreshadowing Fly content 🪰
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Episode 4: So here we’ve seen that Shax can just appear inside the Bentley bc she did it earlier to talk to Crowley. Shax only pretended to be a hitchhiker so she could be invited in because Azirpahale was driving so technically she needed permission to cross the threshold of an angel 👀
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This scene will never not destroy me the 1941 flashback is the absolute sOFTEST thing ever to happen on this show
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We really need more context here I need to see the Crowley-Furfur Monkey Rides
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Episode 5: ahahaha thank you google translate for absolutely destroying my sanity this evening
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POP goes the Ziraphale
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Okay I know you can’t hear it in the gif but just before Nina takes Maggie’s hand, there’s a very quiet miracle noise, like Azirpahale literally MADE Nina dance with Maggie, he said I’m writing a Mina Jane-Austen-Ball-AU and my otp will KISS godDAMMIT
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Azirpahale seems lowkey kind of manic this whole scene tho, he’s controlling literally everyone to force Nina and Maggie together and whenever Crowley says anything that pokes holes in Aziraphale’s Magical Jane Austen Ball Fairytale, Aziraphale just straight up denies it. He wants Nina and Maggie to dance and he wants him and Crowley to dance and he refuses to acknowledge anything beyond that.
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Is this just Shax insulting Crowley for how much of a nuisance he’s been or a reference to his former status as an angel ???
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They’re both completely dismissive of each other when they’re trying to say something important and that’s the main issue they’ve been having this entire season tbh
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Episode 6: I think it’s funny that Crowley describes the angels as bees here because in the book, Neil/Terry describe humans the same way. Guess we have more in common than we thought huh?
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So the metatron was the one who originally decided Gabriel would be memory wiped and not sent to hell, and he was also the one that decided not to sound an alarm about Gabriel for some reason and said ‘just go find him yourself’ instead. The metatron has definitely got his own agenda and you can bet he doesn’t want Aziraphale up there in heaven because he’s a “leader” and he’s “honest” like that’s exactly what Gabriel was and look where it got him 👀
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There’s just something I can’t quite put my finger on about the metatron bringing Aziraphale a coffee from “give me coffee or give me death” and then asking Aziraphale if he’s going to take the coffee he’s giving him…
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I have not seen a single person talk about this since s2 came out but Nina literally calls Maggie “angel” because that’s the term of endearment they hear Crowley using for Aziraphale !!!! I’m still going fERAL over this and I can’t believe no one else is eitHER
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Something about this part of The Final Fifteen compared to this scene from the first episode is so representative of the entire season. Azirpahale keeps saying “my way or get out” and Crowley finally hits a wall and can follow Aziraphale no further. So he does just that. He goes.
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I’m sure a lot of us by now have seen this post that brings up how Aziraphale literally pushes the remains of Crowley into his mouth and swallows and it’s the only thing I see when I watch this now
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We still don’t know for certain if Crowley queued up this song to play on their way to the Ritz or if the Bentley started playing it all on its own and it’s driving me insane
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Basically how I am doing after my Truly-Alarming-Number-th watch of this traumatizing episode/season. WELP hope you enjoyed this garbage dump of my thoughts and feelings time to go cry for a bit again BYE
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Aziraphale and Crowley try to perform one (1) tiny miracle
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Supernatural Dumbasses™️ (that’s a nat 1 on the stealth check)
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No but this literally means that when Aziraphale and Crowley combine even a fraction of their power, the miracles they can create are almost unstoppable. I can’t believe the power of their love is like one of the strongest things the angels have ever seen asjalsfakkdjakla
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armageddidnt · 8 months
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How has my ability to cope with the finale only gotten WORSE over time like it’s been 40 days and I am no closer to reaching even a semblance of normal life again I am spending even more time on tumblr spiraling in good omens theories than I did back in July it consumes my every waking thought and I can barely focus on Real Life because I’m just like How Can It Have Ended Like This anyone else relate or am I just backsliding even deeper into the Good Omens Pit of Depression
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armageddidnt · 6 months
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A Quite Nice and Fairly Accurate List of misconceptions Crowely and Aziraphale probably have about each other because these two idiots are Literally Incapable of Communicating (seasons 1+2)
[Aka I am going insane about their absolute inability to Talk Out Loud With Their Mouths and now you can too]
-Crowley probably thinks Heaven discorporated Aziraphale and burned down his bookshop instead of Shadwell doing it accidentally in 1x4 because Aziraphale never told Crowley what actually happened to him
-Aziraphale probably didn’t realize how upset Crowley was when he thought Aziraphale was gone for good in 1x5 and Aziraphale probably didn’t even realize Crowley was referring to him when Crowley said “I lost my best friend.” This is because it doesn’t seem like Aziraphale could actually see Crowley when he appeared to him in the pub and Crowley never stated this explicitly to Aziraphale
-Aziraphale doesn’t know Gabriel told him to “shut [his] stupid mouth and die already” when he tried to burn ‘Aziraphale’ in hellfire in 1x6 because Crowley never told him
-Aziraphale doesn’t know that Heaven threatened to ‘book-of-life’ anyone who was found helping Gabriel in 2x1 because Crowley never told him. Aziraphale also doesn’t know that this is the only reason Crowely came back to help at the end of the episode because Crowley never told him
-Crowley doesn’t know that Shax implied Crowley was risking destruction by helping Aziraphale in 2x4 because Aziraphale never told him (Aziraphale: “Nothing happened to me. Very uneventful journey indeed, no strange things at all”)
-Aziraphale doesn’t know any of the things Crowley discovered in Heaven in 2x6 because Crowley never told him. This is including but not limited to:
Gabriel decided he didn’t want another Armageddon and was immediately derobed, cast out, and memory wiped because of it, the Metatron decided to enact this punishment, the fact that Heaven is planning another catastrophic end to humanity in the first place, and that Gabriel as the Archangel had basically no real power at all because the moment he disagreed with Heaven he was ejected without a second thought (If Aziraphale had known this, Crowley’s pleas of “when Heaven ends life here on Earth, it’ll be just as dead as if Hell ended it” and “they’re toxic” might not have fallen on deaf ears)
-Bonus: not really a miscommunication but Aziraphale didn’t see that Look the Metatron gave Crowley when they were leaving the bookshop to go to Nina’s in 2x6 so Aziraphale probably has no idea how the Metatron/Heaven really feels about Crowley (and by extension, whether the Metatron’s offer to “restore” Crowley back to an angel was genuine)
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armageddidnt · 8 months
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Day 41 since the finale, how are we all doing??
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Aziraphale saying “smitten” and then calling Crowley “silly” in that adoring, soft, heart-achingly sweet voice of his ?????? My heart is a pUddle on the fLOOR
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armageddidnt · 9 months
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Friendly reminder that Nina calls Maggie “Angel” now because that’s what Crowley always calls Aziraphale thank you and good night
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armageddidnt · 8 months
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I think that what’s still got me so wrecked about the Finale is that Aziraphale’s unconditional faith in heaven is stronger than his love for Crowley and it absolutely breaks my heart.
Let me explain.
Throughout all the time that Crowley has known Aziraphale, he’s been trying to get the Angel to question heaven, to question the Great Ineffable plan, to question God, to stop and think for once and see how none of this really makes any sense and heaven isn’t actually good. And on the wall at the garden of Eden, we thought that was the first time Crowley realized he was in love with Aziraphale but I think he didn’t realize that till much later, not until Nina asked him if he’d been with his “partner” long and Crowley actually stopped to think about all the years he’s know Aziraphale and question if love is actually what he’s been feeling all along. But anyway, on the wall, I think that was the first time that Crowley got even the barest hint that Aziraphale might actually be an Angel capable of free will. That there was some tiny sliver of hope in Aziraphale turning away from Heaven and Hell and joining Crowley on his Own Side. Because Crowley has confirmed how lonely his Own Side is and I think even the slightest chance of Aziraphale joining him there was enough for Crowley to latch onto and never let go.
Then Crowley spent millennia trying to show Aziraphale the complexities of morality and the futility of Heaven and Hell’s efforts and the blatant immorality of Heaven and the fact that he doesn’t always have to do what he’s told and free will doesn’t have to be a thing that’s just for humanity. And after all that time, trying to show Aziraphale over and over again, saving him from harm over and over again, protecting him, trusting him, being there for him, pleading with Aziraphale to just see what he sees and forget about Heaven and do what he actually wants to do … Aziraphale rejects him over and over and when he’s given the choice to return to Heaven, he takes it and leaves Crowley behind. Because Aziraphale cannot give up Heaven and God and the idea of being on the Right Side, the Side of Good, because he hasn’t learned how to have free will and he hasn’t learned how to disentangle his morality from the unquestionable and unrelenting word of God.
And that’s all Crowley has been trying to get Aziraphale to see for thousands of years and now that they’ve finally realized their love for each other, now that they’ve realized what they had all along and could have had beyond that, it’s still not enough and Aziraphale can’t let go of Heaven. Aziraphale knows that Crowley loves him and just wants to run away together and Crowley knows that Aziraphale needs him, but it’s not enough. Their love is not enough, 6,000+ years of trying to show Aziraphale the truth is not enough, “it’s always too late,” and Crowley knows he’s lost yet again. That every time he’s lost and he just wants to protect his Angel but now he’s lost Aziraphale to the one place he cannot go, the one place he cannot protect Aziraphale from. Crowley has given literally everything he has to Aziraphale, his entire life, heart, soul, and it’s not enough.
Their love is not enough and it breaks my heart.
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armageddidnt · 5 years
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I also broke Amazon Prime (part 1)
You know those posts about people breaking Amazon Prime and getting the wrong subtitles for the episode they’re watching? Welp it happened to me too !! I was watching episode 1 and got the subtitles for episode 3 so here we go! 😂
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This one is oddly accurate
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That’s a bit concerning
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Are you sure Harriet? Because you don’t look like it
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Ah, so that’s what happened to the extra baby
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That’s just a mood honestly
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Gardener Aziraphale roasts Warlock Dowling
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Don’t they like do that all the time anyway?
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I woke my mom up laughing at this one
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Do Hastur and Ligur just have like regular dinner dates or something???
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armageddidnt · 5 years
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I also broke Amazon Prime (part 2)
Some more incorrect subtitles because some of these are hilarious lol
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What Crowley is saying inside his head perhaps?? 🤣
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Is that what they call “wives” in Tadfield??
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Probably not anywhere near the food I would say
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rip Aziraphale’s dove
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I think I woke my mom up again laughing at this one
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Maybe Gabriel has a point about avoiding human food
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Honestly this could be either of them saying it and it would still make sense
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hA LOL
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part 1
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armageddidnt · 5 years
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Aziraphale reporting to Heaven
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We stan one (1) ethereal dumbass
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