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ddenji · 20 days

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you can never go back!!!

ourghh such a good denji moment tying together such a poignant theme of the manga!!! there’s a lot he can never go back to, for better or for worse, and its interesting to examine his goal of a good/ normal life from the other end now. like yes there’s still more he can reach for in having a normal life, but theres also a lot he cant tolerate anymore bc of his normal life. mwah amazing

#chainsaw man #csm #chainsaw man manga spoilers #csm 165 #spence.speaks #DENJIIII DENJI MY BOY #IM SORRYYYY THAT YOUR LIFE IS LIKE THIS

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lindleart · 20 days

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gonna be real with you, when they reintroduced katana man this is not where i thought they would go with him

#chainsaw man #katana man #csm 165 #chainsaw man spoilers #csm spoilers

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lunargirlthing · 13 days

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"Hold up I'm cooking, Asa"

"No Denji, you're mentally unwell"

#csm #chainsaw man #csm part 2 #denji #asa mitaka #csm spoilers #csm 165 #asaden

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sugar-grigri · 15 days

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Comedy in CSM is the most important thing to analyze

I accept that the last arc can be read as comic, but you have to push the analysis further; every situation, every comic spring, pursues a theme: identity.

While it had been raised, questioned, it's in this arc that Fujimoto announces that this time we're in the dissection phase.

Denji is accompanied by characters of different narrative rank to enable this operation: a former enemy (still current, but belonging to part 1), a current enemy (introduced in part 2), a potential lover, a guy who idolizes part of his identity, and someone a little more out of touch with everything that's going on.

Everything is there to talk about identity, from the fact that Asa's high-school girl outfit is an advantage for going unnoticed, to the fact that she's stumbling.

Because this way of portraying Asa isn't the right one, since she's a teenager who's always resisted fitting in at her high school.

The guillotine is not insignificant either. It's not to be analyzed as something innocuous - there were plenty of potential demons - but Fujimoto chose ultra-symbolism.

For the guillotine has been manipulated by men of all political persuasions, and is also the symbol of a France seeking to redefine itself.

Above all, it's a symbol of a changing world.

And the rules of the world into which the characters fit are changing.

Fami's struggle against death is one of the first cogs in this change.

Stripping the guards of their clothing is also a way of removing their authority through their uniforms.

The high school girls' uniforms, on the other hand, had the advantage of symbolizing innocence and candor, and of not drawing attention to themselves.

The guards' uniforms contained their authority, so undressing them is enough.

Finding Denji cut up also heralds what's to come, as all the characters help him to literally rebuild his life.

If Asa learns who Chainsaw Man is from Denji's severed head, it's also Fujimoto's way of punishing his main characters.

Asa had always conceived of Chainsaw Man as an evil symbol, a demon for whom she felt no respect or consideration.

So, presenting her with a severed head is always reminiscent of the guillotine: the guilty party's head, presented to the people.

Because Chainsaw Man, before being a hero, is a culprit.

Just as the greatest revolutionaries glorified by the early revolutionaries ended up on the guillotine.

Above all, Fujimoto punishes Denji, because Denji's dream, the only thing he had about his identity - the power to reveal himself - has been taken away from him.

Denji didn't present himself, he was presented as a hunted beast

If Yoru and Katana Man are trying to help Chainsaw Man, it's because without the bloody, invincible enemy that is Chainsaw Man, they lose their objective.

The way they both present themselves from the start is through a desire for revenge

If the beast that would allow them to savor this vengeance is not in state, then all falls away.

What you're witnessing is not a humorous transition arc, but a pause in the work's own narrative.

Because its main character no longer accepts pretending to be Chainsaw Man

So the work stops and starts again from the beginning

What does Denji want to eat?

And what could he have eaten already?

The most obvious response to a Denji who refuses to rebuild himself as the person he used to be, and to whom he no longer wishes to resemble, is to grant him what he desires, since what defines this life before is precisely the fact that he doesn't get what he wants, that he stagnates, and that everything is denied to him, even his own identity.

Sex is something Denji is banking on, basing all his hopes on, since what he's experiencing doesn't please him, so surely the answer must lie in what he hasn't experienced, right? His reasoning is as simple as that. If sex is the foundation of existence, then it also settles existential problems.

It's a disillusionment, an obsession for a teenager, who has been denied the status of child so much and is now obsessed with this """"passage to adulthood"""" because everything would make everything so much more coherent.

Sex is also an element of incessant blackmail, but one for which Denji is willing to put himself at risk because it's his only hope, yet another unknown physical sensation, yet another need to be satisfied.

Denji takes up this objective knowing full well that what he's missing once again is someone, a loved one, to protect. For the old Denji loves, tries to protect, is trapped in Chainsaw Man's infernal cycle of suffering. If he is to return to the way he was, then he must also learn to love again, and to love others.

But love isn't visible; Denji only expresses himself in terms of needs.

The need to be loved and the need to have sex are two different needs. Denji doesn't seek one through the other, he only grasps one.

This conclusion on sex sums up this arc a little, this pretext for making Denji out to be an idiotic character, obsessed with sex as a poorly-written character with subversive aims. It's not about falling into the pitfall of a puppy looking for love.

It's about a boy who has long since stopped accepting that he has to go on living, and who projects himself through his non-experience to find meaning in it.

Not having a mother is part of his non-experience.

#chainsaw man #csm #csm part 2 #csm spoilers #denji #asa mitaka #nayuta #katanaman #haruka iseumi #csm 165 #csm 164 #csm 161 #csm 160 #csm 159 #my thoughts

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lancuchwidzialmezczyzne · 20 days

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I don't think sex will cheer him up this time

#csm #chainsaw man #csm manga #csm manga spoilers #csm 165 #katana man stfu let him eat sushi

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heart4dinner · 19 days

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i love asa sm thank u for existing

#csm 165 #chainsaw man #chainsawman #csm #asaden #denji hayakawa #mitaka asa

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possum-with-the-big-iron · 20 days

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The new chapter of Chainsaw Man is... Too much. He'll never be the same.

I like the development of Denji caring so little about people he doesn't know at the beginning of Part 2 that he saves a cat instead of several people to him stopping for a moment to fully take in that someone died there — meanwhile Fami and Asa are passing by that people have been dying all over the place as if it was a breeze.

Also Asa representing Part 2 while Katana represents Part 1 values. The value of a good life against baseless pleasures. God this manga is so good.

#chainsaw man #csm part 2 #csm #csm 165

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possiblylando · 20 days

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Chainsaw Man 165 'Early' Analysis

Media is what I would call the main theme of part 2. To be more specific Part 2 is about how people engage with media. Especially in these last few chapters and arcs as a whole, the throughline is clear. Nobody cares.

Corpses are just rotting in the street they've been there for at least a few hours and a week+ at most. Nobody except Denji seems to care about the present everyone is exclusively concerned with the next big event. It's a critique of how the modern internet tends to interact with media. If something exciting isn't happening then it might as well not exist. People only start to acknowledge something when there's some crazy moment or event to bring up. It's the 24 hour new cycle. There's very little lingering.

The panels like these stuck out to me because of how personal and slow they feel. Like actually taking time to stop and acknowledge the moment. Denji being the voice of reason in this chapter- and part 2 as a whole (while in human form) shows a lot of how he's grown and how his past still effects him. Denji isn't normal. He's seen hell (figuratively and literally) so he understands whats going on. He may not be able to put it into words but he understands the problem in what's happening on an emotional level. Everyone in Chainsaw Man has lost something. But Denji has experienced it all. He started in the gutter, started climbing out, got what he wanted, then got kicked right back down. Everyone else had something to begin with and then lost it. They're all at their lowest currently. Denji has been lower than all of them still.

Alot of this chapter is also about Denji as a character. Not him as a person but a character in a piece of fiction. Asa and Katana verbally dragging him between extremes they think he should be. Never once in the chapter does anyone stop and ask Denji what he thinks or wants. Even if they mean well they don't even consider Denji as a person. Just as a thing to push in a direction to make him do what they want. It's been apart of this entire part. Yoshida trying to stop him from becoming chainsaw man, public safety dissecting him, asa trying to make him normal, yoru trying to kill him, katana man trying to get him laid. None of them actually care about Denji's thoughts. Some of them act like they do and I'm sure some of them have good intentions. But that doesn't change their actions. It all just reeks of

The worst part is that Asa has good intentions. But she isn't thinking of Denji. She's thinking of herself. Everything Asa is trying to get for Denji is actually something she's been trying to get for herself.