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"Armand envies you and spies on you far more than you might think."
“I hear Armand and I see him and I ignore him,” I said.
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leliosinking · 1 month
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“Marius and David not welcome” is sort of funny to me in the grand scheme of this series, like I get the basis of this argument is “well they’re both creeps” but to that point I’d recommend a reevaluation of the entire series, particularly its cast of characters.
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They are all guilty of some manner of abuse. They all commit horrific atrocities. And they moralize over these atrocities. Like. That is the principle upon which the entire series is built. Can these literal monsters ever be redeemed?
When you read Interview with the Vampire did you feel some extreme discomfort with the father/lover dynamic between Louis and Claudia? (which was excised from the show I might add) That locked-door uneasiness is the essence of southern/gothic fiction. Read V.C. Andrews. Read Shirley Jackson. Read William Faulkner. The taboos, the ick if you will, is the foundation of gothic horror. You are meant to feel this. It is an essential function of the genre.
Like- every one of Anne’s books that followed IwtV had to essentially compete with the gothic genius that is the invention of Claudia and the sickness that is her story. It’s not all effective, but it’s there in almost every work. TVL has Lestat and Gabrielle’s incestuous relationship, QotD has Armand’s abuse (yes, abuse) of Daniel. For god’s sake, TTotBT features Lestat committing a rape, and I know that you all know this. Yet no matter how you try to headcanon that scene away, it will always be significant because its very function is to service the larger themes of bodily autonomy and consent within that specific novel.
Killing in fiction is benign. We are desensitized to it. And we know this. Killing means nothing, so the narrative must work harder to find a violence that can demonstrate evil to a desensitized audience. There is a reason that these books are shelved in fiction as opposed to genre. By design, their difficulty is inherently literary. You’re uncomfortable? Good. Then Anne achieved her goal.
But if you’re looking to proselytize and transform the work into something with a black and white morality system then you have come to the wrong series. You are gatekeeping yourself from a nuanced understanding of the material. David and Marius are as bad as everyone else. The main trio are not exempt from this reading. That was the point. They are all bad. They are all complex. It is meant to be difficult to parse. Engage with it or don’t, but you are deluding yourself if you think that these two main characters are somehow going to vanish from the tv show.
(And again, AMC is going to strip away the most challenging character traits anyway)
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roadkilljovi · 28 days
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daniel molloy must have the most bomb pussy of all time bc why is every man in iwtv begging for him bruh
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cuntyvampires · 4 months
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- David Talbot and Everyone Loves Louis, Merrick
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hekateinhell · 30 days
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@monstersinthecosmos and I were talking and she dug up this exchange Anne had with someone on Fanpop back in the day, concerning vampires' love and sexuality. There were quite a few fascinating tidbits but these are my favorites:
I see them [vampires] as transcending matters of gender or age. Lestat loves Louis. Louis loves Claudia. Armand loves Lestat. Lestat loves Gabrielle. There is no distinct difference in the quality of any of these loves. This has also been described as polymorphous sensuality.
"--- Armand is desperately in love with Lestat but it has nothing to do with sex. Armand feels Marius failed him and Marius feels Armand failed him, and that part has nothing to do with sex. Marius and Pandora, that is a love affair, but again sex has nothing to do with it. So they are all capable of loving people of their own gender and the other gender; gender doesn't matter. It's the essence. Lestat loves David Talbot as a lover, a friend, a mentor, a father, etc. --- It goes on like that. The act of dominating and drinking blood can happen between any two characters regardless of gender. They cannot be pinned down. They see all life as potentially beautiful and all forms of love as rewarding."
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I'm verklempt at the fact Anne mentioned Armand and Lestat in the same vein as Armand and Marius and Marius and Pandora, but also I love how much she emphasizes that they can cannot be pinned down and all that forms of love are rewarding!
It's just such a revolutionary way of thinking especially when you consider that she was a woman born in the 1940s in the American South. She may have missed the beat on some things but on others, she was right on the fucking money. 
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bubblegum-blackwood · 6 months
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Just for fun
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“is it David Talbot? is it Marius de Romanus?”
guys, the true question is why the fuck Daniel Molloy is talking to this guy
they seem to get along, and they are talking about Armand and (probably) Louis being active threats, so it could be in Dubai still; why on earth would David, or Marius, talk to Daniel — or more accurately, why on earth Daniel would be willing to talk, and probably trust a guy in that setting?
i have some theories but still, what the fuck
just expanding on some things here
maybe it's right after the second interview: it turned out bad when Louis remembered, Daniel thinks he shouldn't come back because of Armand and is probably ignorant still about the devil's minion thing
maybe it's at the beginning of season 2 (most likely) and Daniel is talking to a friend mostly unrelated to the vampires if it's David, to a friend who lied to him about being involved if it's Marius ; etc
if it's Marius, the way Daniel's open here still is makes me think they are... friends or colleagues of sorts? i am quite convinced it's from episode 1 or 2; it would mean Marius befriended Daniel previously — and well, i can't help but wondering whether it might be because Armand asked him to
if it's David, it would be extremely funny that they are just two friends (??) and Daniel just called him at some point like “dude, i need a drink and a sane man to give me some insight because you won't believe the kind of interview i'm on these days”, and David just Listens™ to Daniel and gives him actually good advice
or Daniel is really desperate and starts to talk to this random guy who turns out to be Marius (the vampire who TURNED ARMAND) or David (an investigator about paranormal things...?)
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nalyra-dreaming · 1 month
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Ok now I'm biting myself in curiosity of what are they doing with Justin Kirk's character, at first look he doesn't exactly look like Marius 🤔 But considering how they played us with Rashid in s1 it would not be surprising at all if he is Marius under disguise sneaking upon Daniel, especially knowing him and Daniel have a fling in the books
Just said it in the other ask, but... given the shifted timeline with Daniel?! And exactly... with... (some of) the events of Blood and Gold? I mean... there's story to play with here!
I have theorized before that it might not have been Armand who wiped Daniel's memories after all... :) (Also, given Marius's stance on turning Sybille and Benji later? And the tidbits about his motivations from the Tulane scripts?)
We'll see. But it makes no sense to me to have David in Dubai. And a LOT of sense for Marius to get a haircut and some glasses. :)) *shrugs*
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rijinks · 9 months
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Requested by @fofoqueirah! Jesse, David and Lestat swapping contact details on their phones (i.e. Lestat VS his iPhone)
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(From Prince Lestat)
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translestatdl · 6 months
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David Talbot single relatable feature is wanting to hang with Lestat but also knowing that putting his dick in that kind of crazy would be taking his life in his own hands
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thecactifindahome · 3 months
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Some early notes for Memnoch the Devil:
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Consider: Never seeing David Talbot again because he's busy in hell, being the Devil.
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hekateinhell · 4 months
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In some of the earlier drafts of Memnoch the Devil, David Talbot was supposed to die, NOT Armand:
From what I saw, a lot of Anne's drafts and notes at Tulane for MtD where more heavily focused on developing the whole religious aspect and the lore that she wanted to follow, but this really caught my attention in a big way for obvious reasons. In an another world, David would've self-immolated instead of Armand, and the book would've ended with Armand and Lestat walking together in Central Park!
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"Almost Claudia, but not"... Ouch.
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I will say that I understand why ultimately Anne decided to go the route that she did with Armand in actual canon (aka what's literally on the page)—I think it does make sense for his arc given his background and religious trauma. I understand it, but also as a reader and an Armand girlie, I would have been much more satisfied by this ending 🥲 (no surprise there!). Alas, I am not Anne Rice, and I'm just so grateful that she thought ahead to make her notes, drafts, and diaries accessible to us after her passing so we can have fun trying to understand her creative process and considering all the possibilities!
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"I do think David has go to to go. Maybe he should go instead of Armand." just takes me right out.
ANNE.
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desertfangs · 4 months
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In Tale of the Body Thief, David asks Lestat where got his snazzy clothes and Lestat says,
“Oh, a little shop somewhere. I never steal the garments of my victims, if that’s what you mean. And besides, I’m too addicted to lowlife and they don’t dress well enough for that sort of thing.”
I love this because I always read it as a sort of dig at Armand. Like Armand may take clothes from victims like a filthy street urchin, but my taste is too refined for that!
Nevermind that Armand probably stopped doing that for the most part in the 80s and most of his clothes are probably custom handmade from some tailor in Italy. It probably isn’t actually meant that way—but you know Armand probably read it that way, too.
And it's also good insight into Lestat's character, and how he needs to dress fashionably to feel like himself and how how he prefers to hunt among the rogues, thieves, and murderers who would never dress like he aspires to. But reading it as a little snub in Armand's direction makes me happy.
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bubblegum-blackwood · 7 months
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