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its-blorbin-time · 1 year
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Goncharov remake fancast (I’m really proud of this)
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Lin-Manuel Miranda as Narrator
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Toby Maguire as Ice Pick Joe
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Leonardo DiCaprio as Valery
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Harry Styles as Andrey
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Timothee Chalamet as Goncharov
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Jennifer Lawrence as Katya
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Kirsten Stewart as Sofia
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Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson as Mario
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rebewatson · 1 year
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Al Pacino (Mario Ambrosini) and Robert DeNiro (Goncharov) on set of Martin Scorsese 1973 masterpiece, Goncharov in 1972.
photo by screenwriter Matteo JWHJ0715
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iwasnotaslasher · 1 year
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aurpiment · 1 year
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We don’t talk enough about how Domenico Procacci was born in 1960 and was 13 at the time of filming. (He plays the boy that leaves the clock tower open. You can also see him in some of the market scenes.) It was his first time on a movie set and he treasured the memory for the rest of his life.
The thing is that he’s known for starting his career as a producer in the late 80s. So all the posters with his name on them aren’t originals (why would they credit a 13-year-old playing an unnamed character on the poster?) but the 25th anniversary rereleases (from 1998) where he was using his name, better-known by then, to promote the film that got him into moviemaking.
It’s an incredible story. He grew up in Bari, four hours away from Naples, but happened to be visiting relatives in Naples that fateful summer.
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pinkiepiebones · 1 year
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if one more person says Scorsese directed Goncharov I'm going to lose it. He was the executive producer or something. Domenico Procacci produced it and Matteo JWHJ0715 directed it.
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comediakaidanovsky · 1 year
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the thing that has really fascinated me with mainstream media’s coverage of goncharov is how they misinterpret the whole thing about “the movie not existing”. like, talk about journalists not picking up on fandom lingo?
we all know that the movie has been in licensing hell since negotiations between Proccacci’s estate and Scorsese broke down, and basically we’ve all just dealt with the fact that a genre defining work of art currently is unavailable on all streaming platforms by being all “lol, it’s like it doesn’t even exists, amirite” while watching the same old grainy VHS rips on torrent sites
and here comes the new york times and polygon and what not, all “the movie doesn’t exist *wink wink*” and not to be a whiny asshole, but maybe if these journalists actually put some work into highlighting the intricate legal situation that has robbed us of this movie having a DVD and/or streaming release, then possibly that coverage could lead to things being resolved somehow??
like YES i’m just a fandom dinosaur who used to hang in the clock watchers community back on livejournal, but come on??? we’ve NEVER been this close to getting the HD release we’ve been praying for for decades, and it really grinds my gears that these magazines prefer to go with hip with the kidz jokes, rather than digging into the meat of the story
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redd-orsmthn · 1 year
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wait did procacci produce goncharov when he was 13???
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y’all domenico procacci was born in 1960. which means he was only thirteen when he produced the cinematic masterpiece goncharov. mans fucking talented.
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niniane17 · 1 year
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I feel that Domenico Procacci, the original producer of Goncharov, doesn't get enough credit. Remember, back in 1973 this movie was far from a safe bet: neither the actors nor the director were big stars yet, the subject matter was heavy and it was chock full of homoeroticism. And yet Procacci decided to go ahead and produce it.
It is especially remarkable since at the time he was only thirteen.
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starberry-cupcake · 1 year
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all the lore tumblr made up of the goncharov movie is really wild but what’s wilder is the real life fact that the real movie that the patches were a computer generated mistranslation of had 4 cast members arrested after the release of the film, that the director matteo garrone paid protection money and cast a camorra clan member for the film as part of the pay, and that scorsese had nothing to do with the actual film but decided to support it upon its us release so it became ‘martin scorsese presents’
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balkanfashion · 1 year
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MARTIN SCORSESE PRESENTS
GONCHAROV
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Oblomov’s Goncharov: The Novel That Started It All
To understand Martin Scorsese’s presentation of “Goncharov” (1973) it is first necessary to understand Oblomov’s original novel on which it is based, and indeed, the time in which it was written.
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The author, Ilya Ilyich Oblomov, was a young nobleman who lived in the late 19th century in Moscow. Popular with the royal family and rich beyond all measure, he was targeted along with the royals by Lenin and the Bolsheviks when they took over Russia after the first world war (known then as World War Part I of II). To escape the fate of the royals (he is believed to have escaped the Winter Palace by only hours) he fled to Italy.
Italy was, at the time, a newly unified country of former city-states including Rome, Florence, Milan, and for some reason, Chicago, IL, the people of which may have thought “IL” stood for Italy at the time. Oblomov himself found protection in Vatican City (which was not a city, but a separate country) owing to his significant contributions to the Popesidential campaign of Pius XII. Once the revolution had died down in his former country, now part of the USSR, which is English for CCCP, which is Cyrillic for SSSR, which stood for USSR, Oblomov moved out into the “Country” (which was not a country, but just an Italian city) and began writing of his experiences.
Oblomov began his novel, Goncharov, in 1921. Its narrative was to be an epic escape from Russia to match his own, but this was not to be, as the house he moved into belonged to the family of Francesco Cuccia, known now as “Don Ciccio the All-Around Unpleasant” or “Cuccia the Pretty Damn Bloodthirsty.” Oblomov, having been tricked by certain vindictive members of the Vatican House of Commons, did not in fact have permission to live there.
As Oblomov himself tried to evade not only Don Ciccio’s mafia but Lenin’s assassins, Vatican intrigue, Templar knights trying to kill the Assassins, and of course, the order of assassins themselves, known then as “hidden ones” or simply, The Brotherhood; his novel Goncharov became a venting point for the tribulations to which he was subjected. Thus, Goncharov became the story of an epic battle between the Italian Mafia and Russians that we know today.
The novel Goncharov, published illegally in Soviet Russia as “Ivan Goncharov” or “The Many Sufferings Of Ivan Goncharov: Hope For The Best, Expect The Worst” was an underground hit. Stalin himself is said to have greatly enjoyed the novel before banning it, burning most copies of it, kidnapping its author and sending him to die in a gulag in Siberia. Though no record exists of Oblomov’s death, it does seem he was captured by Soviet secret police while visiting his parakeet in Yekaterinburg, and all record of him is lost upon his arrival in northern Siberia.
But a few copies made it out, and thanks to an English translation by Penguin Classics, the book fell into the hands of Martin Scorsese, who read the novel while in prep for his film Mean Streets, where he would go on to meet producer Domenico Procacci. Scorsese was of course too busy with his first New York epic to direct, but he agreed to co-produce the film. All that was missing was a director.
While filming the riot scene for Mean Streets though, Scorsese and his casting director happened to meet a certain extra with a peculiar name. Matteo JWHJ0715 (whose family name was changed at Ellis Island from “Jones”) had just moved to New York to achieve his dreams of Hollywood stardom, having thought Hollywood was one of New York’s suburbs. Scorsese corrected him and allayed his disappointment by inviting him to join him and Procacci for dinner.
The rest, as they say, is history.
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rebewatson · 1 year
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It’s kind of annoying how everyone associates “Winter is coming” with GOT, when it was first said by Goncharov in Goncharov on the boat scene with Mario.
Mario: “you only get one shot to do this”
Goncharov: “how mario? Winter is coming to Naples. The water is freezing. I’ll never make it in time!”
Mario: “if you had one shot, one opportunity, would you capture it? Or just let it slip? Now is your chance Goncharov.”
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galaxygolfergirl · 1 year
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What we know about Goncharov’s mysterious director, Matteo JWHJ 0715 and his tragic, yet fascinating life.
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He was born as Matteo Di Sciocchezze to a poor catholic farming family on November 5th, 1938, in Torre del Greco, just outside of Naples, during the fascist Mussolini regime.
It is rumored that the Sciocchezzes were heavily indebted to the Russian-Italian Chmerkovskiy crime family, after they bought a surplus of inventory from Matteo’s father’s cheese-making business when they weren’t able to sell off the excess supply.
His older brother Macareo was killed by German Nazis during WW2, causing him to have an intense hatred of Nazism and fascism, which would later be themes in his work.
Self-identified as bisexual in his teens but was shunned by his family. He would later join Fuori!, or “Out!”, the first homosexual organization in Italy, in 1972, soon after its founding after being attracted to its initial Marxist ideals. It was one of the first associations of the Italian homosexual liberation movement.
Matteo was briefly married to actress Rita Lozionne and had one son with her, Bruno Lozionne, in 1970, but the separated soon after she gave birth.
Sophia Loren mentioned in a 1984 Variety article that she had been “madly in love with Matteo” at one point during their relationship in the early 1960s but had to end their relationship because of the “incident in Prague.” She would not go into further detail.
Changed his last name to his license plate number, rejecting his homophobic family and becoming disillusioned with the idea of nationalistic self-identity.
Knew John Waters and helped fund some of his earlier films.
Aside from Goncharov, the only other surviving work in his filmography, most which was tragically lost in a studio fire in Milan in 1987, were the underground early 60s short films “Tales of the Dog,” a 4 part series, and his 90 minute 1968 film “Green Candles.” These works are incomplete and partially damaged due to the fire.
Matteo had been in a gay love affair with the married producer Domenico Procacci (pictured below from a still one of Matteo’s “Tales of the Dog” films) during the production of Goncharov. Procacci admitted to this years later in 1998, and that they had been planning to leave for San Francisco before his untimely death.
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Matteo died tragically in 1974, however, after falling backwards out of a window, supposedly while playing the mandolin (his favorite past time), as sources claimed.
His son Bruno Lozionne emigrated with his mother in 1976 to the United States, and is currently living in Carbondale, IL, working as the senior office manager of Hardison Supply Co.
If anyone can send in more information on Matteo please feel free to add to this post.
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eeveearoace-creative · 9 months
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Since Goncharov is trending again, I want finally to share the poster I made a few months back! Unfortunately, I couldn't find the original image I used to create it (I looked for the photo, I really did! But I lost a record of it when I got my new computer). But anyway! Please enjoy this poster. I like it a lot :)
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[Image ID: A movie poster for the fake movie "Goncharov". There is a black-and-white photo of a clock-tower. Near the top, text reads: "Martin Scorsese Presents / Goncharov / A film by Matteo JWHJ0715". A bit below that, text reads: "Robert De Niro as Goncharov / Harvey Keitel as Andrey Daddano / Cybill Shepherd as Katya Goncharov". Text near the bottom reads: "Domenico Procacci - Producer, Roy Walker - Set Designer, Micheal Kaptan - Costume Designer, Sophia Loren - Actor (Sofia Daddano), John Cazale - Actor (Joseph "Ice Pick Joe" Morelli), Al Pacino - Actor (Mario Ambrosini), Gene Hackman - Actor (Valrey Michailov), Lynda Carter - Actor (Dancer #2)". In the corner there is a logo for "Tumblr Studios", as well as an "R" age rating - "Restricted - Under 17 required accompanying parent or adult company". End ID]
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effable-as-f · 1 year
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"Goncharov" (AI71 - PE)
CONTAINMENT PROCEDURE:
No known procedures for preventing the item's effect.
DESCRIPTION/ALTERED EFFECT:
A pair of boots with a poster for an apparently nonexistent Martin Scorsese film inexplicably printed onto the label.
Wearing, being in close proximity to, or even viewing an image of the boots causes one to retroactively develop memories of having seen "Goncharov" at some point in their life. Interviews conducted with subjects exposed to this item's altered effect have revealed that specifics about the plot seem to vary drastically from person to person, yet some broader details about certain characters and themes remain consistent.
More research is required to determine whether the actual Altered Item is the boots, or the film itself, whether it exists in any tangible form, or as the metaphysical concept of a movie that is spread through the mere knowledge of its existence.
BACKGROUND:
On August 21, 2020, an image of the boots was posted on the social media microblogging application [REDACTED] by user "[REDACTED]", real name [REDACTED]. The original post flew under the radar for two years before the image's influence suddenly and rapidly began to spread across the internet at large (see "Goncharov AWE" file for relevant details) and the nonexistent movie captured the public consciousness. Both the boots and [REDACTED] have since been taken into Bureau custody, but attempts to purge the original image from the internet have so far been unsuccessful due to the memetic nature of the effect.
Both director Martin Scorsese and producer Domenico Procacci have denied any knowledge of the film's existence. Investigations into a "Matteo [REDACTED]", the film's credited writer, have not yielded any leads, and it remains to be determined if such a person truly exists.
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