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Axiom - BnL Fisk Starliner - 8:00 pm
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James Wesley press the buttons and time options then Auto press and change from day to night then the holographic sun and the projected blue sky change to an orange setting and go to starry night with a holographic moon with a BNL FISK logo meanwhile Foggy and Matt the Avocados in Law (Foggy who did)were hiding waiting at dusk when they noticed the BNL logo with moon and stars in the holographic sky
Attention BNL FISK buyers and Axiom passengers
It's 8:00 pm everyone must go to their cabins immediately and for those awake our bars and nightlife are available 24 hours
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Foggy who left behind a hologram says silently "pssss Matty" they are already gone they can leave
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Matt sweats after demonic transformation from dark magic back to his human form and in addition he is in his black suit which was good for camouflaging at night
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I'm lucky to have you as my best friend and family because I had to smell this perfume samples and a lot of people and single mothers gossiping and being fake to each other this is torture!!!! What Fisk did to these poor people obese souls and now they are pieces of meat and addicted and dependent on BNL Fisk?!.?Matt says in a childish tone, serious and dramatic as his senses are spinning in agony”Well friend, at least you smell good and you got an educational talk”Matt tried not to grumble and throw a towel from the Lido Deck laundry room at Foggy just out of anger at him because it was traumatic and he threw things that will never leave his head and his soul.
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Foggy immediately hugs Matt, surprising him by saying You're a Nelson, my best friend, we're a family and I shouldn't have left you alone there in this field of gueeeeerrr... aaaaa Foggy tried to hold back laughter because that was hilarious. Let's find Karen and Jess with the information and get out of here as Sister Maggie and Inspector Ebony May are currently inspecting the rooms and hallways of Columbia and they won't be happy if they find our rooms alone
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Matt with a smile on his face wraps his arms protectively and comfortingly around his best friend and Foggy does the same and they both laugh and Matt had at this point already put his black and tacky outfit in Foggy's opinion in his backpack and changed into his normal faculty outfit. Matt playfully scoffs: As if I'm afraid of Squidward and the Iron Lady!!!! Matt!!!, bro they look like they don't have a soul and I feel like Ebony Maw doesn't have a heart like her father who is Fisk's War Grape genocidal
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Foggy, as his sunglasses-wearing best friend and brother, I say I'm not afraid of that squid prodigy who came straight out of daddy's pocket and is just a spoiled rich young man who thinks he's the best in his class and still calls himself a prodigy!!! Hahahahahahahahaaahhaaahahahaha Mattttty this is cruel!…FOGGY SAID HE COULDN'T STOP LAUGHING!!!! And he's not cruel because he's just telling the truth! they both laugh almost tripping with laughter…..
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Nelson and Murdock forever!!!
they both scream, not caring about the noise because as long as they were together nothing would happen to them
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dyns33 · 2 years
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Daredevil : "Foggy was really pissed last night." 
Spiderman : "Why ? Because of the mission ? I thought you told him about it." 
Daredevil : "I did." 
Deadpool : "So what ? You told him that you were unhurt, right ?" 
Daredevil : "I did." 
Deadpool : "You also told him that his little adorable nephew was unhurt too ?" 
Spiderman : "Nep... Hey !" 
Daredevil : "I did." 
Deadpool : "That it was a success ? That was stopped the bad guys, without killing them and saved the kids ?" 
Daredevil : "I did." 
Deadpool : "So why dear Foggy berry was mad then ? You were late for your anniversary ? You broke something on your way home ? He's on his periods ?" 
Daredevil : "Well I told him about the whole mission, including the part where you were shot multiple times, once in the end, and I was pissed because you were hurt, because you're his friend and he cares about you, and as for Peter and me, he wants you to be fine." 
Deadpool : "... He's my friend ? Foggy Nelson ? Franklin Foggy Nelson ? My first non vigilante friend and it's Foggy fucking Nelson ? Am I dreaming ? Oh boy, I'm dead for real." 
Daredevil : "I know it's awesome but calm down and don't go annoy him." 
Spiderman : "And you have other non vigilante friends. Like Weasel or Al." 
Deadpool : "Theses assholes are not my friends, I don't let them the choice. Foggy Nelson cares about me !"
Daredevil : “Wade, breathe.”
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murdocklovespage · 7 years
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So, when you talk about your "long-winded and disjointed list of problems" with season 2...I'm curious to ask, what's on that list?
It’s been a few months since I’ve re-watched Season 2, so feel free to correct me if I’ve misremembered something. 
My biggest problems with season 2:
The Timeline: 
Everything has to take place in the span of a few weeks? If it worked out logically, Matt wouldn’t have self-destructed the way he did. He catches the Punisher in a few days, the trial happens a week later (riiight...) and then lasts a few days. Then the Punisher gets out in less time than the length of the trial. And all of this is happening during very time-sensitive Hand discoveries? Kevin McCallister voice: I don’t think so. 
Nelson and Murdock
How in the hell do two men with expensive law degrees afford to live in New York when they are (maybe) paying the rent for their space and nothing else? You can’t ignore that fact for an entire second season. Maybe Matt could survive off of whatever money his father left him, but that seems unlikely. And I haven’t gotten the vibe that Foggy is rich like in the comics. Plus, the Punisher certainly isn’t paying them, so the best case scenario would be that hopefully their careers aren’t ruined and more (criminal) clients to show up on their doorstep after everything is done?
I know DD is a dark show, but one of the best elements of the show is the relationships. Foggy and Karen balance Matt out - they are his ties to his humanity. But the second half of the show he is off screwing them over and they barely interact with him for the last four episodes - a good 1/4th of the season. I don’t think he even speaks with Foggy in those last episodes. Foggy basically disappears from the show - and the fact that Matt doesn’t see him while he’s standing on the roof of the same hospital is so incredibly aggravating. He’s been Daredevil for a year? A year and a half? So he was a decent friend before all that and then became an asshole? Does his alter-ego have that big a hold on him? He really needed to have more conversations with Father Lantom, that’s for damn sure.
They didn’t use Foggy enough after the trial. He’s so much better than the role of sanctimonious best friend. In the beginning of season 2 he is more accepting of Matt’s nightly activities and I think that’s because he knows that Matt isn’t going to stop. But no, we need to rehash the conversation they had in Murdock v. Nelson (which is my favorite episode of S.1, btw) because Matt just doesn’t learn. Foggy is justifiably upset with his partner, but it comes off as annoying. 
Whenever Matt is an asshole, Foggy ends up being an asshole to Karen too, which is garbage. He’s like, “I’m out,” but he is her employer. She’s losing everything after all her sacrifices for their firm. I know she’s always trying to keep things together when he just wants distance from Matt, but both of their lives are crumbling and his mentality is basically, “I can’t deal with you right now, Karen. Even though you helped me get through all of this.”
The fact that Matt thinks he can promise Karen that he’ll protect her when he dodges her calls, lies to her, and ignores her is flat out asinine. And for the majority of the show, she’s just nods her head when he says he’ll protect her. If she doesn’t know that he’s Daredevil, the only frame of reference she has is him letting her stay at his apartment (which wasn’t attacked, so I guess that counts), and him telling her she needs to be more careful. But seriously, how does he even think he’s protecting her? He was ok with her going with Grotto, who was being hunted (not his fault, but a good example of failing to protect her), then her apartment is shot up. He straight up failed at what he promised (with the exception of the DA’s office) and those are only season 2 examples. I know he’s human, and he can’t be everywhere, but quit acting like you BELIEVE you’ll protect her, Matt!
He was finally willing to go off with her into protective custody - to which I was like, “YES,” even though I feel like it was uncharacteristic of him. How long would he have stuck around if she’d let him? He could have been doing this the entire time. Thank God she told him that he wasn’t hers to protect in the end. He needed that rude awakening.  
The Trial
Why would N&M let Frank wear the orange jumpsuit during the majority of the trial when they knew he needed to be humanized? They never would have done that in a real courtroom. Also, there was no way Castle was going to be a good boy and give a good testimony when he thought he was justified and LIKED killing everyone. That was a bad call, Karen. He can’t use his sex glare on the whole courtroom.
Frank was annoyed about the PTSD argument, but they should have explained that his PTSD didn’t stem from the war. He saw his family butchered in front of him, was shot in the head, and was almost murdered after surviving all of that. You don’t think you have PTSD? You think going on a murderous rampage and enjoying it is normal? There’s clearly something wrong with you, bro. And if you don’t see that, there’s the proof.
I want Matt to be a decent lawyer with ever fiber of my being. But instead, he goes off on this tangent that should have been his opening remarks (if he hadn’t slept through it.) He was testifying for Frank, not “questioning the witness.” How did Samantha Reyes let that slide?
I cringe every time they say they could “win this.” Like, how? He still killed dozens of people. Do they mean that Castle would be put in a mental institution? Is that winning?
The Villains - I feel like they made the same mistake a lot of superhero movies (and Luke Cage) make, and that is including WAY too many villains. The show felt incredibly disjointed. We have The Hand, the Punisher, The Blacksmith, Elektra and Stick for a hot minute, and Fisk. It’s ridiculous.
This is my biggest issue with Season 2. It felt like they decided to tell an incomplete story in order to set up The Punisher, Iron Fist, and the Defenders.
The Hand 
had been around since season 1 and I STILL don’t feel like I have a decent grasp of what they are/why they’re doing what they’re doing. They should have just been thrown in during the last episode, because that’s how much information I felt like I got after 9 episodes.
Even with Iron Fist, I feel like the Hand was barely explained. Now it’s also some cult that good people get swept up into (but when they try to leave, the people who cared about them are instantly willing to drain their bodies of blood and fight them… sure...) I feel like Matt whenever Stick talks about the Chaste. Annoyed and in disbelief that it even exists.
Somehow the enormous hole situation is enough to pull Matt back in? He’s like, “I’m not helping you anymore, Elektra. Oh wait, there are giant holes in Manhattan. Ok, I’m in.”
Why are centuries old trained ninjas such terrible fighters? They don’t even seem like real bad guys. They’re expendable and they suck.  
I feel like the real reason the writers had the Hand kidnap all of the people that DD had saved was to give Karen a reason to be potentially thankful when Matt reveals his alter ego. Also, why in the hell was Turk kidnapped when DD beats him up regularly? He is not one of the victims of the criminal element of Hell’s Kitchen, he IS a criminal.
The Punisher
His introduction - which, honestly, I still loved because it gave me chills, but it doesn’t make much sense. If he has this code, why would he shoot up a hospital? If he is such a marksman, why didn’t he just wait until he caught up to him and shoot him? But no, he has to use a shotgun in a hospital to chase a dude who is being protected by an innocent woman so that he looks scary. That’s the only reason.
How in the hell did the Punisher have the resources to find Grotto when he was given an alias and the police didn’t even know?
I feel like the conversations between the Punisher and Matt were some of the best acting on the show, but the Punisher won most of the arguments. Also, Matt tries to get on his level by acting like he understands the struggle of a war vet, which really pissed me off. And if DD told me that the men who killed my children IN FRONT OF ME deserved justice… Let’s just say the Punisher seemed pretty damn patient in that moment.
Also, Matt. You literally throw billy clubs at brains. Those men are brain dead. You have no higher ground to stand on.
The relationship between Karen and Frank. She doesn’t trust him, then she does, then she doesn’t, then he saves her and she trusts him again. Then this conversation happens:
Karen: The Blacksmith already tried to get me once, I really don’t want to give him a second chance.Frank: He’s not going to get it.Frank (under his breath?): Except I’m going to use you as bait a few minutes later, and technically his people will be shooting at you, but you know, you’re safe, or whatever.
Also, if she were in protective custody, why wouldn’t the police go into the elevator? Does “we’ll be right outside” mean they’ll be “right outside” the hotel?
The Blacksmith
Felt like an afterthought. Frank Castle’s family dying at a drug bust for the Blacksmith was so ridiculously coincidental. And why in the hell would the Blacksmith help him at his trial if he’s coming after everyone involved in the deaths of his family? He was the only positive element of Frank’s trial, but he could have easily said no, and his problem would disappear. He acts like he owes a debt to Frank, and then tries to kill him.
The Punisher and the Blacksmith should have been combined into one season and everything else into another. But since season 3 is happening two years after season 2, I guess this is the crazy way they decided to do it.
Elektra and Stick
Maybe you don’t think that they were villains here, but they were certainly problems that took up multiple episodes. Stick turns on on Elektra… Why? Because she chose Matt instead of him? And then Matt just jumps on his side when she justifiably attacks him. Hey dude, your douchebag sensei:
Abandoned you as a child.
Sent Elektra to ruin your life in college. 
Has a completely different code than you, and never keeps his promises. You literally can’t trust him. 
Tried to kill her because she wasn’t a good soldier - just like you. And you don’t ask questions?
I need to end this by saying that I still like season 2, it was just super flawed. I like Elektra and the Punisher. I like that Karen steps away to become her own person. I like Foggy showing he doesn’t need Matt - even though it breaks my heart and if I had a choice I would pick Matt being a decent person instead. And I loved the Karen/Matt storyline until they just gave up on it.
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ao3feed-daredevil · 6 years
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A Conspiracy of Ravens
read it on the AO3 at http://ift.tt/2EHCt3g
by KairosImprimatur
In an attempt to keep from hurting anyone else, Frank lays down his weapons, lives quietly, and keeps his distance from everyone who cares about him.
Karen finds a new story about him anyway.
Words: 2963, Chapters: 2/?, Language: English
Fandoms: The Punisher (TV 2017), The Defenders (Marvel TV), Marvel Cinematic Universe, Daredevil (TV)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: F/M
Characters: Frank Castle, Karen Page, Maria Castle, Mitchell Ellison, Franklin "Foggy" Nelson, Father Lantom (Marvel)
Relationships: Frank Castle/Karen Page
Additional Tags: Slow Burn, Plotty, Grief/Mourning, Reporter Karen Page, Foggy Nelson Is a Good Bro
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