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thetorchwoodarchive · 3 years

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Can you recommend any fics where either Rose or Martha joins Torchwood? Thank you in advance!

I Can’t Say I’ll Be Alright Without You by Violetmessages (JackIanto, TenTooRose, MarthaMickey, GwenRhys | WIP | 6398 | T)

In one timeline, Rose Tyler stays in a parallel universe with her parents and the Metacrisis Doctor, Martha and Mickey freelance their alien hunting careers, and Torchwood Three carries on in Cardiff until its untimely end.

This is not that timeline.

In which Martha, Mickey, Rose, and the Metacrisis Doctor join Torchwood Three after Journey's End and, along with Jack, Gwen, and Ianto, fight on behalf of the human race.

Normal Tuesday Night by pocky_slash (JackIanto | complete | 1697 | G)

In which Tuesday night is Date Night.

Below the Line of Your Heart by m_feys (JackIanto, Ianto&Tosh, Jack&Martha | WIP | 26191 | T)

I’ve seen snake bites— I’ve died to snake bites,” he laughed at the admission, though there was no humor in it. His breathing came unevenly as he turned around to point out the nasty looking injuries on the shoulders.

“They look wrong,” he emphasized.

Lost On Memory Lane by PinkFairy727 (Gwen&Ianto | complete | 2k | T)

The image was burned into his mind. He knew it would haunt him for the rest of the day." Gwen/Ianto friendship fic set post Exit Wounds. Also features Jack, Martha and Mickey, plus mentions of Tosh and Owen. One strong swear word.

no easy way from the earth to the stars by fitzroysquare (Jack&Rose | complete | 2812 | T)

When the Doctor passes through Cardiff, Jack doesn’t chase after him. The reason why starts with Rose Tyler stumbling out a dark Cardiff alley in a flash of light.

Another Year by Beleriandings (MarthaTosh | series | 19, 430 | Multiple Ratings)

Tosh had thought that when the Rift had closed again after Bilis and Abaddon, after Jack had come back to life and given them all his forgiveness, that things would return to normal. Or at least normal by Torchwood standards.

It’s only when she meets Martha Jones and the Doctor, and finds herself swept off to the far future, that she starts to realise that the end of the world is only just beginning.

The Rose of Jericho by Kaydeefalls (JackIanto, GwenRhys | complete | 62606 | M)

Post-CoE. When Martha Jones encounters a dark UNIT cover-up in the wake of the 456, it's up to Gwen's new Torchwood team to bring the truth to light -- and save Ianto.

Her Hands by DinoDina (LoisTish | complete | 2763 | G)

In which the Year that Never Was is over and Tish needs to move on; in which the 456 are gone and Lois is not the same person. In which they are drawn together, and everything changes.

You're gonna heal over (someday) by beleriandings (JackIanto, GwenRhys | complete | 7461 | T)

After Tosh and Owen's deaths, Jack, Ianto and Gwen are exhausted, trying to put the city back together as they grieve. Luckily, Martha's there to help.

The Dead Reunited by lydiamartini (TenRose | complete | 52k | T)

Rose Tyler has managed to break through into her home universe - a year in advance. But when she begins searching for the Doctor, she finds someone else instead. Someone she wasn't expecting to see. 10/Rose.

#character:rose tyler #character:martha jones #mod:alyssa

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dinodina · 3 years

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53 and 63! tish and lois!!!!!

Mutual pining and everybody knows/mistaken for a couple, from this

First of all, these are some of my favorite tropes! So. Okay. I have a headcanon that Tish and Lois both end up spending some time between Cardiff and London after CoE (in which no one dies, and yes, there is a fic that I’m working on that has... kind of that exact set-up), Lois working for Torchwood and Tish doing stuff with Martha/figuring her life out. So they spend some time together, and in this plot/outline/scenario, they don’t... really vibe at first. Yes, ouch.

They just can’t ever start a conversation because Tish doesn’t know what Lois went through with the 456 and Lois doesn’t know about the Year that Never Was, so they just keep missing each other. They do respect each other, though, and over time, that respect turns into something more. They don’t vibe, but they desperately want to get to know each other. So... something-something-something, they spend some time together, finally talk, spend an overnight trip somewhere, have breakfast together, look at each other in the morning light outside of the cottage they have to rent for whatever trip/mission they’re on (Lois is there for Torchwood, Tish is visiting Martha).

And - gasp!!! - they’re definitely attracted to each other.

Mutual pining commences. And they are awful. Gwen thought working with Jack and Ianto was bad? There is nothing worse than Lois checking her phone every second to make sure she didn’t miss a text from Tish because they’re talking more and more and she doesn’t want to give the mistaken impression that she’s having trouble communicating again. Tish gave Martha trouble for how ridiculous she and Mickey were being? Martha bursts out laughing every time Tish asks if Torchwood is busy because she doesn’t want to interrupt them and accidentally cause some alien mischief to go unmanaged because she distracted Lois. They have to babysit Anwen once and Rhys asks Gwen how long they’ve been together because he thinks they’re dating.

But no. They’re just... very very very in tune with each other. And it happened so suddenly, everyone’s convinced that they had to have slept with each other for it to happen!!!

Anyway. They get together at the end to much surprise because everyone thought they were dating anyway but they were just being busy pining.

Thank you!

#torchwood #lois habiba #tish jones #TISH/LOIS SUPREMACY #thank you nik I need these two in my life #<3 #princess-of-the-worlds

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papermoonloveslucy · 4 years

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LUCY & BEDROCK! (TWIST! TWIST!)

Lucille Ball & “The Flintstones”

“The Flintstones” was TV’s first primetime animated sitcom. It was produced by Hannah-Barbara animation and ran on ABC TV from 1960 to 1966. Following the show's cancellation, a film called The Man Called Flintstone, a musical spy caper that parodied James Bond, was released that same year. The show was revived in the early 1970s and several different series and made-for-TV movies. The original show also was adapted into a live-action film in 1994, and a prequel, The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas, which followed in 2000.

Although not officially recognized by its creators, the show bears a very strong resemblance to TV’s “The Honeymooners”. Fred and Wilma Flintstone are reminiscent of Ralph and Alice Kramden, and they have best friends and neighbors Betty and Barney Rubble that are very similar to Ed and Trixie Norton. The original “Honeymooners” (1955-56) also was spun-off into future iterations, including musical episodes, just like “The Flintstones.”

Lucille Ball admired “Honeymooners” creator and Jackie Gleason and Gleason even played Ralph Kramden on “Here’s Lucy.” Ball also worked with the show’s other stars: Art Carney (in “Happy Anniversary and Goodbye” and “What Now Catherine Curtis”), Audrey Meadows (in “Mother of the Bride” on “Life With Lucy”) and even Jane Kean, who played Trixie in the color “Honeymooners” (who was seen on a 1966 episode of “The Lucy Show”).

CAST CONNECTIONS

Jean Vander Pyl (Wilma Flintstone / Pebbles) worked with Lucille Ball on several episodes of “My Favorite Husband” radio show in 1948.

Alan Reed (Fred Flintstone) played a train station luncheon counter attendant in “Lucy Visits The White House” (TLS S1;E23) in 1963, while also playing Fred Flintstone on ABC. He later appeared on an episode of Desi Arnaz’s “Mothers-in-Law”.

Bea Benadaret (Betty Rubble) was one of Lucille Ball’s favorite performers. She played Iris Atterbury on “My Favorite Husband” and was Ball’s first choice to play Ethel Mertz. Instead, she played Miss Lewis in “Lucy Plays Cupid” (ILL S1;E15).

Mel Blanc (Barney Rubble) was a master of voices best known for Bugs Bunny. He also worked extensively with Jack Benny, once with Lucille Ball. He did two films with Lucille Ball: The Fuller Brush Girl (1950) and G.I. Journal (1944). In 1969, Blanc did some ADR (dialogue replacement) work on “Here’s Lucy.”

Hal Smith (Various Voices) is probably best known as Otis the Drunk on “The Andy Griffith Show”. He appeared with Lucille Ball in the 1963 film Critic’s Choice and did three episodes of “The Lucy Show” and one of “Here’s Lucy.”

Howard Morris (Various Voices) played Howard Coe in “Lucy and the Golden Greek” (TLS S4;E2) in 1965.

Allan Melvin (Various Voices) is best remembered as Sam the Butcher on “The Brady Bunch” and Barney Hefner on “All in the Family.” In 1956, as Corporal Henshaw on “Sergeant Bilko,” he did was seen with Ball in “Bilko’s Ape Man.” Melvin and Ball also appeared together on the 8th Anniversary of “The Ed Sullivan Show” In 1954.

Harvey Korman (The Great Gazzoo / Various Voices) is best remembered for his work with Carol Burnett on “The Carol Burnett Show”, several times with Lucille Ball. He also appeared on “The Lucy Show” three times.

Janet Waldo (Mrs. Slaghoople / Hedda Rocker / Various Voices) is best remembered for voicing Judy Jetson on another Hanna-Barbera cartoon series, “The Jetsons” (1962-87). She played Peggy “Keep Jiggling” Dawson on “I Love Lucy” and Lucy Carmichael’s sister Marge on “The Lucy Show.”

Frank Nelson (Rockbind / Rocky Stone / Various Clerks) did two recurring characters on “I Love Lucy” - Freddie Fiillmore and Ralph Ramsey, in addition to other characters. His distinctive voice was heard on “My Favorite Husband” and he made one appearance, as the harried train conductor, on “The Lucy Show.”

June Foray (Granny / Nurses) was one of the most famous voice artists in Hollywood, most famous for Rocket J. Squirrel. Coincidentally, Warner Brothers recruited Foray to replace Bea Benadaret as Granny in their cartoons. On “I Love Lucy” she provided the bark of Fred the dog.

Paula Winslowe (Mrs. Slate / Various Voices) played Mrs. Martha Conklin on “Our Miss Brooks” opposite Gale Gordon. On “I Love Lucy” she was one of the passengers on the S.S. Constitution in “Second Honeymoon” (ILL S5;E14) and a patient (in wheelchair, above) in “Lucy Plays Florence Nightingale” (TLS S2;E14). She was the voice of Bambi’s mother in the 1942 Disney film Bambi.

Verna Felton (Pearl Slaghoople) received two Emmy nominations for her role in the Desilu series “December Bride,” playing Hilda Crocker from 1955 to 1959. She did two episodes of “I Love Lucy,” including playing Lucy’s stern maid, Mrs. Porter. Felton voiced many characters for Disney.

Howard McNear (Doctor) played Mr. Crawford, Little Ricky’s music teacher on “I Love Lucy.” McNear went on to play Floyd the Barber on “The Andy Griffith Show” from 1961 to 1967, filmed on the Desilu backlot. He was also seen in Lucy and Desi’s 1953 film The Long, Long Trailer.

Herb Vigran (Cop) was one of the busiest character actors in Hollywood. He played Jule, Ricky Ricardo’s music agent on two episodes of “I Love Lucy” in addition to playing movie publicist Hal Sparks in “Lucy is Envious” (ILL S3;23). He was seen in the Lucy-Desi film The Long, Long Trailer and six episodes of “The Lucy Show” - all as doctors!

Ginny Tyler (Daisy) voiced Clementine the sheep in “Lucy Buys a Sheep” (TLS S1;E5) and the bird voices in “Lucy Gets the Bird” (TLS S3;E12) and one episode of “Here’s Lucy.” She did the voice of the sheep in Disney’s 1964 hit Mary Poppins. Although she died in 2012, her voice can still be heard in the chorus of birds outside The Enchanted Tiki Room at Disneyland and Walt Disney World.

Willard Waterman (Gus Gravel) was a versatile voice actor who appeared on hundreds of radio shows in the 1930s and 40s. He is probably best remembered for playing “The Great Gildersleeve” on both radio and TV. He was seen on “The Lucy Show” in “Lucy and The Plumber” (above) and “Lucy the Rain Goddess” (S4;E15).

Jerry Hausner (Clyde) was best remembered for playing Jerry, Ricky’s agent on “I Love Lucy” (including the pilot). He also did one appearance on “The Lucy Show.”

Sam Edwards (Agent) played the star-struck bellboy in “Lucy Meets the Queen” (ILL S5;E15). He was also the voice of the adult Thumper in Bambi (1942).

Sandra Gould (Various Voices) was best remembered as Gladys Kravitz on “Bewitched”. She made two appearances on “I Love Lucy” and one (above) on “The Lucy Show.”

Ann-Margret (Ann Margrock) was one of several celebrity guest stars to be honored with character on “The Flintstones”. She was also a guest star (as herself) on “Here’s Lucy” in 1970 and had appeared on Ann-Margret’s 1969 special.

Elizabeth Taylor (Pearl Slaghoople in The Flintstones live action film, 1994) was one of Hollywood’s most glamorous and popular stars when she guest starred with husband Richard Burton on “Here’s Lucy” in 1970. It is odd, then, that she was cast as Pearl Slaghoople, a character that was previously considered frumpy.

Paul Winchell (Umpire / Thief / Reporter in "Wind Up Wilma” - 1981) was best known as a ventriloquist, but he was also an accomplished character actor who appeared in two episodes of “The Lucy Show” and two of “Here’s Lucy.”

Arte Johnson (”Flintstone Kids” - 1989) was best known as a cast member on “Rowan and Martin’s Laugh-In”. He also did an episode of “Here’s Lucy” as an eccentric bird watcher.

George O’Hanlon (”Flintstone Kids” - 1989) was best remembered as the voice of George Jetson on “The Jetsons,” another hit Hanna-Barbera cartoon. On “I Love Lucy” he was one of two actors to play Charlie Appleby.

"I Love Lucy” and “The Flintstones”

First, Lucille Ball bears more than a passing physical resemblance to Wilma Flintstone. In “The Flintstones” it is clear that Fred is the leading character and most stories revolve around Fred and Barney, rather than Lucy and Ethel. The tried and true formula of a leading couple and the best friends / neighbors as the secondary characters is used in “I Love Lucy”, “The Honeymooners” and “The Flintstones”.

Here are a few more tangible connections:

The animated Lucy and Desi that opened pre-syndication airings of “I Love Lucy” were created by the Hanna-Barbera unit at MGM.

And both shows were sponsored by cigarette companies; “I Love Lucy” by Philip Morris and “The Flintstones” by Winston.

Wilma and Betty trying to sneak into the Water Buffalo convention in "Ladies Night at the Lodge" (1964) while disguised as men was very close to Lucy and Ethel disguising themselves as male reporters to infiltrate Ricky’s daddy shower in “Ricky Has Labor Pains” (1953).

The plot of “Operation Switchover” (1964) recycles the premise and many of the same plot elements of “Job Switching” (1952) especially with the domestic disasters on Ricky and Fred's end: scorched clothes while ironing, a fallen cake, and overflowing rice on the stove.

Like Lucy Ricardo, Wilma Flintstone’s pregnancy was incorporated into the storyline. It was originally thought that like Lucy, Wilma would have a boy, but merchandisers pointed out that there were more opportunities for products for girls, so Pebbles was born. Like Lucille Ball, Jean Vander Pyl (who voiced Wilma) was pregnant at the time of recording and gave birth to her son on the day "The Blessed Event" originally aired on February 22, 1963.

Fred and Barney undertake a rehearsal for the big moment, including Betty rehearsing telephoning the doctor, just like Ricky and the Mertz’s do for Lucy when ‘the time has come’.

Wilma seems to get cravings for unusual foods including hot fudge and sardines that Fred dutifully supplies, just like Ricky did for Lucy.

In the father’s waiting room, a man worries his wife might deliver more than one baby, just like Mr. Stanley (Charles Lane) on “I Love Lucy.”

In “Operation Switchover” a character named Hedda Rocker from Good Cavekeeping Magazine is obviously inspired by Hedda Hopper, the famous gossip columnist who appeared on two episodes of “I Love Lucy” as herself.

Arthur Murray, who’s innovate dance instruction method and dance studios became iconic, is parodied on “The Flintstones” as Arthur Quarry. In a 1965 episode, he was named Arthury Murrayrock.

In “Lucy Meets the Mustache” (LDCH S3;E3) Lucy wants to open a sealed letter so she tries a inserting a knitting needle under the flap, a method she says she saw in an Alfred Hitchcock movie. The scene is underscored with “Funeral March of a Marionette” by Charles Gounod, which served as the theme tune of “Alfred Hitchcock Presents”. On “The Flintstones” he is parodied as Alvin Brickrock.

Hollyrock star Rock Quarry is a tribute to Rock Hudson, but talks like Gary Cooper. Hudson guest-starred on an episode of “I Love Lucy” set in Palm Springs. Previously, Lucy dressed as Gary Cooper (complete with his trademark ‘yup’) to fool near-sighted Caroline Appleby.

An episode titled “The Soft Touchables” is modeled after Desilu’s hit gangster series “The Untouchables.” “The Lucy Show” parodied their own show in an episode titled “Lucy The Gun Moll” (TLS S4;E25) in 1966 starring “The Untouchables Cast” but using different character names.

Wilma and Betty’s favorite television show “Peek-A-Boo Camera” catches Fred and Barney acting silly in a 1963 episode that is clearly modeled after TV’s “Candid Camera” created by Allen Funt. In 1971, “Lucy and the Candid Camera” (HL S4;E14) also featured Funt in hidden camera shot plot. Lucy Carmichael also get involved in a hidden camera television show in “Lucy and the Beauty Doctor” (TLS S3;E24). In that show, the program was called “The Boiling Point.”

The hit Broadway and movie musical movie My Fair Lady inspired many satires (some in name only) including “My Fair Freddy” (1966) and “My Fair Lucy” (TLS S3;E20) in 1965!

In “Fred Flintstone Woos Again” (1961) Wilma convinces Fred to renew their wedding vows after realizing the official who originally married them wasn’t fully licensed! On “I Love Lucy” Lucy realized that their wedding was also invalid when she found an error on their license. They go to the spot they first wed to renew their vows, just like “The Flintstones”.

In “Dial ‘S’ for Suspicion” (1962) Wilma's devotion to a murder mystery novel causes Fred to wonder if Wilma is trying to away with him. In “Lucy Thinks Ricky Is Trying To Do Away With Her” (ILL S1;E4) Lucy's devotion to a murder mystery novel causes her to wonder if Ricky is trying to do away with her!

When Wilma can’t keep up with the housework, she hires a maid in “Wilma the Maid” (1963). The same situation happened in the Ricardo home in “Lucy Hires a Maid” (ILL S2;E23). While the Flintstone’s maid is an earthy Italian woman named Rockabrigida, the Ricardo’s maid is a humorless woman named Mrs. Porter. Coincidentally, Mrs. Porter was played by Verna Felton, who voices Pearl Slaghoople on “The Flintstones”.

When superhero “Superstone” is hired for a birthday party but can’t make it - Fred takes his place. On “I Love Lucy” when Superman is promised for Little Ricky’s party, but can’t make it, Lucy takes his place - nearly!

In “How To Pick A Fight With Your Wife” (1966) spats between spouses escalate to such a degree that the couples split: Fred and Barney are thrown together as roommates, while Wilma and Betty are bunking together at the other house. In “Vacation from Marriage” (ILL S2;E6) much the same thing occurs between the Ricardos and the Mertzes!

The real comparison with Lucy and Desi is something Joe Barbera could have only hoped for in 1960 — enduring popularity. Lucy is still justifiably loved by hoards of fans and “I Love Lucy” is on the air somewhere. “The Flintstones” remains a part of the popular culture, 60 years after the show’s debut.

#The flintstones #I Love Lucy #Lucille Ball #Jean Vanderpyl #Bea Benadaret #Lucy #Fred Flintstone #Mel Blanc #Hanna-Barbera #Alan Reed #Ann-Margret #Elizabeth Taylor #The Honeymooners #Hedda Hopper #frank nelson #Janet Waldo #Verna Felton #Willard Waterman #paul winchell

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greendreamer · 3 years

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Torchwood S3 Ep1 - Day One

First off, HOLY FUCK the menu screen. Yeah I know CoE is dark, but that’s something else

Look some creepy children

How many months have Torchwood been going with only three members? Because of no matter how long I find it unbelievable that they were able to manage. After all, I bet the Rift was crazier after the events of Exit Wounds

“Morning.” My heart 😔

“He thought we were together, as a couple. He said, you two. The way he said it. You two.” “Well, we are. Does it matter?” “I don't know. It's all a bit new to me, that's all.”

“you’re Torchwood” “Never heard of them”

Hey, Lois!

“Of all the times for Martha Jones to go on holiday.” “ Don't you dare phone her? She's on her honeymoon. “ Okay, I HATE THIS. Why? Because I bet it was less than a year since the Doctor Who S4 finale. So in that time she broke up with Tom (who she was engaged with), start dating Mickey, gets engaged and gets married within that short space of time.

Yeah Nah, Martha being on holiday, I’m okay, Honeymoon? Nah.

“She's calling us a couple now.” “What's your problem?” “Just saying.” “I hate the word couple.” “Me too.”

I dislike the awkward tension going between Jack and Ianto. I swear the ongoing plot between them in S2 was about them being more honest, actually committing to their relationship.

Hey more creepy children

“Big science fiction superbase. Honestly.”

“I'm going to England. Farewell forever.” “Good luck. Have you got currency?” “Yes, and I've had my injections. See you.”

It’s so weird having so much content of the families of Torchwood in one episode, especially after no mention before

At least they get acknowledge their existence in the audio (well, at least Ianto’s family)

Weird how quite the rift is during all of this

I love how much there is to Ianto’s family

I feel Ianto is a niche Bi, as in he’s attracted to woman and 51st-century captains (this is joke, I know about Ianto’s other male crushes/romantic interests)

The chaos of this scene XD

Well, that’s one way to get rid of the SUV

Although I have a feeling Torchwood did track it down some point after the events of CoE

Well, that’s definitely Torchwood style pregnancy test

And it wouldn’t be Torchwood without a Jack death

“Ianto, we're having a baby.” I wonder how many fans have wished that...

Well done Javic...

And from then on the Hub was never mentioned again (well, and apart from once in MD) So we have no clue of the damage. All we know is the bomb had a one-mile blast radius, but still no clue of the side effects of the explosion.

#torchwood #children of earth #torchwood children of earth #day one #day one coe #Jack Harkness #captain jack harkness #ianto jones #gwen cooper #martha jones #green speaks

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vampiremonday · 4 years

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TV series ask meme: Doctor Who

send me a tv series and I’ll tell you:

my all-time ultimate fave character: I’m not sure I have a favorite, but I have clung to Clara harder than any of the others. I like all the companions I’ve seen much of, some more than others, but she was the one who makes me think the most. I also really love Martha and Rose. I guess those three are my favorites, but it depends on what we’re talking about.

a character I didn’t used to like but now do: River Song. I understand some of the criticisms of her, but she grew on me to the point that I would say I like her.

a character I used to like but now don’t: I never liked her to begin with, but the original portrayal of Cassandra in 1x02 makes my skin crawl a bit because of the transphobia involved now that I understand it, which I probably didn’t in my early years as a fan. I appreciate that the second and final portrayal of her involved showing her some empathy, which I guess was a slight rebound on that, but still. Bad taste in my mouth.

a character I’m indifferent about: Thirteen, so far, because I haven’t seen her or her companions??? And I guess that I was just kind of put off by the very hamfisted pop-feminist marketing angle they went for. Like, the fact that the Doctor wouldn’t be opposed to regenerating as a woman had been foreshadowed since Eleven, so I don’t really think that we needed Simm!Master being made even more arbitrarily sexist than he already was (which was enough and made some kind of sense character-wise) and Twelve and co being all ~the future is female~ in the text of the show. I mean, I guess hedging your bets against idiot dudebros who can’t read the writing on the wall. But yeah, I hope to… one day enjoy some Thirteen but for various reasons including the way the marketing just made me feel blank about something I thought I would otherwise be intrigued by, I haven’t gotten around to it.

a character who deserved better: Martha Jones the mostest. Also, Danny Pink. Ianto Jones (Torchwood). Also Owen and Tosh but especially Tosh. Probably a bunch of other episodic characters, including that Family of Blood whom the Doctor went full wrathful-Eldritch-god on. Oh, and Donna Noble.

a ship I’ve never been able to get into: Doctor/Donna as a romantic thing. There are others I’ve seen that I’m indifferent to or put off by, but that one is one that I can sympathize with the urge to ship but just… can’t.

a ship I’ve never been able to get over: Honestly since I’ve liked Doctor Who for over a decade, this is a hard question to answer. Doctor/Rose was one of my first ships as a teenager that I really understood in a fannish way, but over time the fire about it has cooled somewhat for me. I like it still, but I feel like over time I stopped being as OTP~ about it. So Doctor/Rose is a mainstream ship that I really like when presented in certain ways. Clara/Danny broke my heart. I liked Amy/Rory as they matured, and “together or not at all” made me really happy even if I was iffy about the early execution. I still tear up a little at the musical piece from that scene. And… uh… I am forever transfixed by Doctor/Master | Missy and Doctor (especially Twelve) & Clara and might be persuaded to ship it under certain circumstances. See, I can’t choose, but I guess if I had to it would be one of the last two. Oh, and it’s pretty much bits and pieces except on the Torchwood side, but one of my favorite rarepairs in the world is Jack Harkness/Martha Jones and I would’ve endgamed it so hard had Torchwood S3 ever existed.

a cute, low-key ship: Jenny/Vastra? I’m mostly pretty “oooh I can’t decide” about choosing ships and favorites, but in this case I was pretty, like, on-board with it. I wrote a fic one time which is more than I can say for even ships I’ve been more into. Doctor/River wavers between “I accept it” and being low-key to very occasional bursts of Strong Feelings that would put it in the above-category.

an unpopular ship but I still enjoyed it: Jack Harkness/Martha Jones.

a ship that was totally wrong and never should have happened: The sexist, dehumanizing elements of the episodic romance in Love and Monsters have aged really badly. At first, I didn’t really fully understand why so many people hated it so much, but I get it now, even though I liked the underlying concept for that episode a lot. I also have a lot of discourse-y opinions about why, while I enjoyed some of it and rooted for Ianto and Jack both to be happier, together or apart, that I really don’t like Jack/Ianto endgame and/or it being treated like this Epic Romance when it really only became Epic because Ianto died horribly. I would just prefer to ignore CoE (I have never watched it) and endgame ship them with other people. But this is a sin to people who are major Janto shippers, and I support you! I just… don’t personally… jive with it. It felt like Ianto settling for me and then getting killed for it.

my favourite storyline/moment: The whole narrative throughline involving the Doctor, Clara, and Missy in S8 and S9. It really played with the whole “the bad guy is right” and “who is the bad guy” in a way that never became so nihilistic I couldn’t stomach it, and in fact led to Missy’s redemption, which is hitting all of my happy buttons.

a storyline that never should have been written: The ending of Love & Monsters (the stupid kids-show-write-in-monster resulting in a woman being a tile that performs oral sex for the rest of her lifespan is bad but didn’t have to be like that). I’m really bitter about The Girl in the Fireplace even though there are parts of it that I have grown to be at peace with. I still would probably be happier if the episode mysteriously vanished from memory. That bizarre thing with the Daleks in business suits and something about pigs? I hate The God Complex, like, a lot. I only ever watched it once and am afraid to try and stomach it again. And there are others I’m just indifferent about or have mixed feelings about, but those are my axes to grind. Interesting how, at this point, most of my gripes happened in the RTD era, though The Girl in the Fireplace was entirely the result of then-Moffat’s textual criticism on how stupid it would be for the Doctor to fall in love with a common girl. Probably my favorite episodes in S1 are actually the ones that involve the Slitheen, but I hate the fatphobia and fart-joke-heavy aspects of those as aliens. Would tweak the actual threat, though the writing of the overall story feels like some of the best in early Doctor Who revival to me?

my first thoughts on the show: The first episode I ever saw was The Idiot’s Lantern, and I really understood nothing about it except that it was science fiction, a revival, and something a British friend watched every Saturday. I was perplexed, but intrigued. Then I caught random smatterings of episodes over the rest of my Christmas break, and by the time I saw The Christmas Invasion on Christmas, I was in love and given a new lease on hope. I had just gone through a personal trauma, and it really helped me to feel something about anything again, and S3 and Simm!Master’s role really helped me grapple with what I’d been through and feel empowered enough to survive.

my thoughts now: I always tell people that I’m kind of indebted to Doctor Who for my life. And I feel like that’s true. My emotional involvement with it varies a lot, depending on when you’re talking to me, but it’s a comfort-attachment for sure. There are certain lines or scenes from it that form some of the foundation of my personality, when I manage to have one. I think it is at its best when it is showing love for what it is: healing, restorative, and revolutionary, but on the other side of the coin, cruel, dangerous, and destructive. I think its engagement with questions about the nature of love and responsibility toward one’s fellow-living-things is when it is the most fun. I haven’t really interacted with it as much since Clara left. I have seen about half of Bill’s episodes, the missing chunk being the middle of S10, and I’ve seen nothing after that. I will one day, probably.

#doctor who #stargazerdaisy #answered ask

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jbharrisauthor · 6 years

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Tag game - Torchwood edition

Tagged by @humany-wumany-stuff (thanks very muchly!)

Rules: Always post the rules. Answer the 11 random questions posted for you. Create 11 new ones and tag 11 people. Let the person who tagged you know that you answered.

1. When did you start watching Torchwood and what (or who) got you to start watching? I started way back when it aired on TV (in 2007), but I live in Australia and the TV channel who had it played the episodes out of order and kept changing the time it was on, so I got really confused about what was happening and gave up not even halfway through season 1. I always meant to watch it properly but never got around to it until 10 years later it popped up on my Netflix suggestions and the rest is history.

2. What is your go-to episode to watch when you’re feeling down/bored and why? Probably either Cyberwoman because its such an intense episode, and obviously all the Janto angst or Something Borrowed because there are some truly brilliant moments in that episode. Rhys with the chainsaw, Gwen’s reaction to waking up pregnant, Ianto quips, Tosh being a badass, and of course the Janto dance at the end. It’s an episode with everything you could want.

3. Which of the TW villains/aliens/whatevers did you find the scariest and why? Its a tie between the 456 and the cannibals in Coutrycide. The thought of people being capable of such evil in a group is seriously scary. But the 456 had the creep factor down by talking through the kids and all the slime they splattered in the tank when they got angry.

4. If you had to pick 2 characters to do a BF audio, who would it be and what would it be about? Easily Ianto and Gwen. I just think there was so much unexplored potential in a close friendship between them, especially since they both loved Jack in different ways and no doubt had come to understand that Jack wasn’t the easiest person to love. I’d probably trap them somewhere together, not in immediate danger, just more an inconvenience, and maybe have some humorous element to it. They’d work well together to save themselves, and I can see Jack turning up with “I’m here to save you!” just after they’ve recused themselves, then Jack ending up a little deflated since they didn’t need him after all, but Gwen and Ianto assuring him that if he’d just been a few minutes earlier, he definitely could have played the hero for them... think I feel another fanfiction coming on... :D

5. What is your favourite fanfic-trope to read/write? More like what ISN’T my favourite trope! I’m not keen on fully AU where like Ianto’s a uni student and Jack is a professor, or similar kinds of things, but I like cannon AU where Jack or Ianto go to other timelines and meet alternate versions of each other. Soul mate fic if it’s done really well, CoE fix-its are always good. Or post-Miracle Day where Jack finds a way to bring back Ianto. Pretty much anything where Ianto is not dead is good. Oh, I really hate Gwen-bashing fics because although I know she had her flaws, I don’t hate her. And I don’t like the fics where Ianto gets upset about something Jack has done and then retcons himself, I just don’t think Ianto would have ever done that without a good reason. That being said, I did read one fic where he had retconned himself for a very good reason, and it was a great story.

6. If you could assemble your own TW team (post-CoE) with canon characters from the extended Who-niverse (any show related to DW), who would be in it? Easily Martha Jones and Mickey Smith. Haven’t see the other DW spin-offs, so can’t comment on them. But if we’re going all out, I’d also bring in Rose and the Metacrisis Doctor (TenToo) because I just know that would make for some amazing stories. And Jack, of course. Wouldn’t be Torchwood without Jack.

7. A question you would like to ask the actors on a panel (assume they are all present :p) Oh um... Probably I’d ask if they could pick any audio, comic, or book to make into a TV episode, which would it be and why.

8. If there was another season and they would do a crossover with any show/movie/book/whatever of your choosing for 1 episode, what would it be and why? Supernatural with Dean and Sam. I don’t know why, but I just feel like it would be hilarious. Imagine what Sam and Dean would think of Captain Jack!

9. If you were to find out tomorrow that Torchwood is real and Jack is leading a Torchwood team in your home city, how would you convince him to let you join them? Um I WOULDN’T because I don’t have a death wish. In fact I’d be like “please retcon me right now so I forget that I know this. I like being alive and not traumatised.” Hahah.

10. How would you recast the original Torchwood team? (Jack, Owen, Tosh, Ianto and Gwen) No! Blasphemy! It can’t be done! Honestly, I have thought about this before, but the first person I thought about recasting was Jack and I never got any further because there seriously isn’t another John Barrowman in this world.

11. If you could pick any author to write a Torchwood novel, who would it be and why? Can I be totally self-centred and say ME? I actually really would seriously love to write a Torchwood novel, but I have no idea how an author gets to do that! If we’re talking other fanfic authors i think @gmariam321 would write amazing Torchwood novels and also another author who goes by Angstosaur.

And now I’m going to cheat and not tag 11 people because everyone I would have tagged have already been tagged!

#tag game #torchwood

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softcompanion-blog · 7 years

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rambling about some of my favourite characters

martha jones - goodness, where do i even start? i remember only seeing a little of her on screen as a child and immediately liking her but only really starting to love her when i rewatched. of course, you have to hand it to freema agyeman– billie piper was the the first companion of new who and yes she was /amazing/ as rose tyler. but freema portrayed martha excellently and i feel like she needed so much more screentime than she got. martha jones was the first black doctor who companion and that in itself is incredible. OF COURSE she was jealous of rose…it’s not easy thinking you’re constantly second best. she loved the doctor but never forced anything on him as most martha haters like to think she did. it must of hurt so much knowing her feelings of pure adoration weren’t and never would be reciprocated. but she got on with it. in my opinion, she was the most useful companion to the doctor in the whole show. she was headstrong but kind at the same time…not to mention she had to experience so much racism when sent to the past with the human doctor “john smith.” i am still mad; she deserved so much more gratitude! in the end, she saved the world with her love and determination– she didn’t need superpowers or kick-ass fighting skills! she saw her family tortured, the end of the world, and walked away from the man she loved most all while keeping her humanity intact. and that is why she is the best companion ever!

ianto jones- WHY DO I HAVE A THING FOR CHARACTERS WITH JONES AS THEIR LAST NAME???? but anyway, god do i love this boy. i will never ever ever forgive the writers for doing him so dirty. his dry sense of humour always cracked me up but, although he was very sarcastic, he had a soft and vunerable side to him and i really really felt for him. he’s been through so much (countrycide and CoE are so difficult for me to watch) and i wish i could have known more about his life before torchwood. also, he was AMAZING QUEER REP!!! he so deserved his happy ending with jack and i also feel like jack needed to treat him better but maybe that’s just me??? the most heartbreaking thing is they kill him off just when we see him REALLY open up. he becomes so much more comfortable about his sexuality, excited about his relationship with jack and he even wanted to build up the relationship with his family again! in CoE you see how much he loves jack and how devestated he is thinking he will be forgotten after death and it shatters my fragile heart into teeny tiny pieces…yes, he is flawed but he is the best character on torchwood (tied with toshiko) and deserved the world!

toshiko sato- it’s so hard to even write about her without welling up man. i loved her from her very first appearance and the writers just sort of …. dismiss her?? i don’t know but i love her so much. i HATE owen like full offence but she deserved someone who loved her and actually, y'know, cared? (also maybe not a rapist.) also despise mary and people who ship them together OBVIOUSLY hate tosh and want to see her manipulated and abused. SHE IS A SMART, KIND AND STRONG ANGEL AND I CAN’T BELIEVE THEY GIVE HER THAT ENDING???? almost everything she did was for other people and she never really looked out for herself? it angers me so much that she’s just seen as a background character when she could save the entire team without even breaking a sweat (and she has done!) also very salty about how i didn’t get my developed tosh and ianto best friend duo but a girl can only dream ;-; honestly if it were up to me gwen and owen would be dead and it would be tosh, ianto and jack in CoE because WHAT A DREAM TEAM!

bodhi rook- rogue one broke me especially bodhi’s death because you can just see the realisation on his face and oh boy. my kid went through so much and if you think he wasn’t a true hero then you’re INCORRECT. i love characters who may not be the best in physical combat but are strong in their own way and that is what he brings to the table. lovely lovely boy :’)

han solo- SPACE DAD SPACE DAD SPACE DAD

princess leia- SPACE MOM SPACE MOM SPACE MOM

poe dameron- BADASS GAY! cannot wait to see more of him i loved him in tfa it was adoration at first sight!

finn- BISEXUAL FATHER!! i’d pay him to stab me with a lightsaber. but seriously…he’s so kind and his development makes me cry

#doctor who #torchwood #star wars #bodhi rook #martha jones #toshiko sato #ianto jones #finn #poe dameron #princess leia #han solo

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nofomoartworld · 7 years

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Hyperallergic: Portrait of a Young Artist, from New York to Vietnam and Back

A work in progress by Tammy Nguyen (all images courtesy the artist)

I met Tammy Nguyen at the Asian American Literature Festival, which was presented by the Smithsonian Asian Pacific American Center at various venues in Washington, DC, over a three-day period (July 27 – 29, 2017). I don’t remember the circumstances of our first conversation, but she told me that she was an artist and had a small press. She also said that she resided in New York and often worked at the Center for Book Arts, which wasn’t far from where I live.

Shortly after I got back to New York, I ran into her while walking home from the supermarket. We talked briefly. That evening, I subscribed to Passenger Pigeon Press, which she started in Fall 2016, and, according to the website, “house[s] Martha’s Quarterly, Collaborations, Public Domain, and custom projects.” I subscribed to Martha’s Quarterly after learning that it is “a quarterly subscription of four handmade artist books a year.” The first two issues were sold out, and I started with the fourth and most recent issue, which includes a reprint of the Preface to The Novum Organum (1620) by Francis Bacon. In this paradigm-shifting text, Bacon argued that nature was a domain to be conquered rather than a resource that we inhabited: it existed for our use. Whatever else Passenger Pigeon Press is, Martha’s Quarterly is part manifesto, part a gathering of texts, with the intent to examine, contemplate, challenge, and refute.

Martha’s Quarterly, Issue 4, Summer 2017

Nguyen belongs to that vast and nebulous category, “young artist.” By starting her own press, she does something important: she takes control of the means of production for an easily transportable object. Her press exists outside of the art world’s marketplace, which gives her the freedom to reject mainstream standards and present an alternative measure. Lots of poets start their own presses, but there is no market for their wares, unlike the art world, which supports and fetishizes works by Mark Grotjahn, Jeff Koons, and Richard Prince, bad boy darlings whose whiteness is essential to the product.

The challenge for younger artists — particularly ones of color — is this: do you want to accommodate yourself to this world on the off-chance that you will get anointed? Or do you find another way that is not dependent on the marketplace and gallery system, but does not cut you off from that system entirely? I think that these questions were what initially intrigued me about the fact that Nguyen started her own press. Of course, I did not know what I would be getting myself into by digging deeper, but I believe that the state of not knowing is important to writing about art. Otherwise, you too become too dependent on the marketplace and what the galleries are showing.

Nguyen grew up in San Francisco and went to Cooper Union. In 2007, after graduating from Cooper, she got a Fulbright to go to Vietnam to study lacquer painting. She ended up staying for four years, and worked as “Concepts Team Manager” for My Duc Ceramics. She was able to travel throughout Asia for her job. In 2011, he moved back to America and went to Yale, where she got her MFA in painting and printmaking, graduating in 2013.

Tammy Nguyen’s studio

While she was a student at Yale, she took classes in biology and anthropology. One of her professors was Eric Harms, author of Saigon’s Edge: On the Margins of Ho Chi Minh City (University of Minnesota Press, 2011). She worked as a volunteer at William Robertson Coe Ornithology Library, which is housed in the Yale Peabody Museum of Natural History. This museum has one of the most comprehensive bird collections in North America. On Friday mornings Nguyen would help skin birds for the collection. This is how she learned taxidermy.

At some point, as she put it to me, she got interested in animals. This eventually led her to research the red-shanked douc langur, an endangered primate native to a small area of Vietnam near Danang City, and to learn more about the passenger pigeon, which went extinct when the last of its species, named Martha, died in the Cincinnati Zoo on September 1, 1914. Because she died before the age of Freon and refrigerated trucks, Martha was packed in a 300-pound block of ice and shipped by train to the Smithsonian, where she was photographed, skinned, and mounted. Just 36 years earlier, in 1878, seven million had been slaughtered in a hunt in Michigan. Focusing on an endangered species and an extinct one becomes, for Nguyen, a way of framing geopolitical issues.

A work in progress by Tammy Nguyen

The habitat of the few hundred remaining red-shanked douc langur primates is Son Tra Mountain (also known as Monkey Mountain). Used as an American observation base during the Vietnam War, it has since become a destination point for global travelers and, according to one online guide that I consulted, it is about a 35-minute drive from downtown Danang. Today, the building of hotels on Son Tra Mountain poses a serious threat to the red-shanked douc langur. If you can kill seven million birds in a single hunt, you can certainly knock off a few hundred moneys with red faces in the name of tourism and great lookout views. The other thing to know about Danang — which the guidebooks don’t tell you — is that it is located at 16 degrees latitude, directly in line with the disputed Paracel Islands, which sit in the middle of the South China Sea and are claimed by China, Taiwan, and Vietnam.

Tammy Nguyen, image from “Primate City Narrative”

The issue Nguyen faces is how to pull all these different strands of knowledge together. Passenger Pigeon Press is one way. Making artist’s books was another. She has made two books in the shape of the red-shanked douc langur. One of the books contains a facsimile of a 1969 US military intelligence proposal to modernize Danang City, which she found in a bookshop when she first visited Vietnam. In that book she came across the term “Primate City,” which was used to designate Saigon. A “Primate City” is an urban conglomerate that people move to from more rural areas; it absorbs the resources of the countryside without replenishing it. Nguyen is doing what many terrific artists before her have done: making connections where there were none before.

In addition to publishing under her imprint of Passenger Pigeon Press and making artist’s books, she has been writing fiction and painting on paper, mostly to construct visual narratives. One visual narrative, “The Red-Shanked Douc Langur,” was published in Bomb (February 28, 2017). This is an excerpt from that narrative:

The red-shanked douc langur is an endangered species of primate that lives on Son Tra Mountain in Danang City. There are only a few hundred of these primates left on Earth, but their ancestors have survived in Vietnam through a thousand years of Chinese domination, through colonization by the French and Dutch, and through all the battles between America and the Vietnamese Communists.

I don’t think it is far-fetched to suggest that Nguyen’s survival as an artist shares something with the red-shanked douc langur. What’s changed is the enemy.

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