#interfamilial jealousy

[shallowseeker]

I'm not trying to be contrary but I'm genuinely curious why you think Jack would be jealous of Claire rather than follow her around like a lost puppy.

I mean, he might try to be friends at first. Jack likes to style himself as a polite, young fellow, after all. Plus, he appears to be uncomfortable about Jimmy Novak, if you go by the script outlines. There'd be guilt mixed up with everything, too. He has his dad because she lost hers. Claire is someone he'd instantly want to protect.

But Claire is mean as a fuckin' snake, and Jack's feelings aren't iron-clad. He also can tend to get snipey and sassy when pressed, especially if he thinks Claire is doing something dangerous.

For her part, Claire doesn't want to be protected. She wants to show off and be the superior hunter, which of course gets her into trouble.

And well. Jack's never really had to share Cas before. Not like that. I don't know if he'll understand at first why he's so uncomfortable, but he definitely will be.

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Maybe you're right that you'd need one of those serpent tongues around to voice the most uncharitable interpretations of events, in true SPN fashion. This way, Jack's fears and jealousy can get riled up more properly (Claire, on the other hand, doesn't need any help getting riled up).

Instead of a demon or villain of the week to be the mouthpiece, I'd choose Dark Kaia. I mean, Dark Kaia is ruthless and cunning and blunt and cruel...and she tried to skewer Claire. Plus...

REGULAR KAIA IN HER DEBUT: I mean, you picked the wrong bait. I'm not the kind of girl folks come for. In this world, I don't even rank a milk carton. No one is gonna come for me. I'm not white, rich, blonde. No one's gonna fight for me. I don't matter.

Still, regular Kaia fell in love with Claire, even though she was milk-carton gorgeous. But Dark Kaia tried to kill Claire, because Claire was the thing taking her twin from her.

We also understand that Dark Kaia is jealous of Kaia for even having a Claire in the first place, just like she admits to being jealous of her world.

In 15x12, Dark Kaia too sees a beautiful, Claire-like face in a magazine and angrily shoves it across the table. Like regular Kaia, she seems to have hang-ups about the sort of person society seems to "instantly care about."

All that to say, she'd totally be the voice in Jack's ear pointing out the contrasts between how Claire is treated versus how Jack is treated. Look how soft they all are on Claire, how precious she is, how they protect her, etc. etc.

Sorry, that wasn't really your question, was it. The real answer is...because I like the flavor.

Claire is jealous because TFW gives Jack more responsibility; Jack is jealous because they give her less.

It's spicy.

ADDENDUM: If she'd been an active player in the plot, Claire would absolutely volunteer to "Kill Jack Kline...so Cas, Dean, and Sam don't have to." Dark Kaia would agree, and regular Kaia would be looking for a way to save him. If Jack killed Claire, that might be the thing that motivates Cas to act more visibly out of character, similar to how Mary's death pushed Sam and Dean to the brink.

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[crispyfryenperu]

rolling around the sun

I am one year older!! It seems ridiculous that I turned 25 AND 26 in Peru, and I am still going to turn 27 IN PERU before I return to the US. It seemed like a long time before, but right now it seems like an insane amount of time.

What have I learned in my 25th year of life, living abroad? In a country that I thought would be more like Mexico or El Salvador — and in some ways it is —,  in other ways it’s not. First of all, the culture. I think it is close to Mexican/Salvadorian and Latin American culture, but I am used to Mexican or Salvadorian AMERICANS, and have only ever visited a Latin country for a month at a time.  

The culture here is beautiful; people are so generous and friendly. It’s also overwhelming. There is more jealousy in friendships, especially in relationships and from people in relationships. I am surprised that more Peruvians don’t dislike me - for the amount of food I eat, and being vegetarian. Food in this culture is a mother’s love, and Peruvians are incredibly proud of their food.  However the coastal dishes rely heavily on chicken, seafood, white rice, and potatoes— not at all like Mexican or Salvadorian food. When I visit some friends’ houses, they are stumped about what I can eat. Once they figure it out, they are horrified when I don’t ask for seconds, or more dessert, or eat all 5 side dishes. I am not trying to be ungrateful or difficult.  Sometimes I hear Peruvians speak about other volunteers, and they brag about how much they eat, or that they suck even the bone marrow out of the bones. Part of me is sad that they will never brag about how much I eat, but another part of me is glad that I am sticking up for my own boundaries. And fortunately, most of the people in my circles still seem to invite me to events, meals, and respect my decisions. 

A delicious vegetarian causa!!

I made hamburgers and French fries for the Fourth of July :O

Another big difference in our cultures are interfamily relationships. Many Peruvians continue living at home until they are married, and once they are married, build their home as the second story of their parents house. So parents have much more control over their children. Adult sons and daughters have to tell (or sometimes ask for permission!) their parents every time they’re going out, and again with the food, be very careful about coming home for lunch and dinner! Some parents consider it disrespectful to eat out. Of course, the culture is diverse, and I am soooo lucky to live with my host family, where as long as Ii tell them I am leaving the house and when I am coming back, they will not bother me or guilt trip me.  All this being said, I think the strong family ties contribute to the sense of community. Here on the South coast, there is a lot of pride for being from each pueblo, and people always share their harvest with neighbors or lend a hand to a child or elderly couple. In my town, almost everyone knows everyone. That can also be a blessing and a challenge. Because it’s so small, I have manyy friends, but I wouldn’t choose to live somewhere so small again.

I have also gotten used to the number of parties here! Every few weeks there is a saint to celebrate, which means going to church, eating our local dish carapulca with the whole town, and then drinking pisco or beer in a drinking circle, and dancing to a live band playing cumbias and local Peruvian music.  My town loves dancing and drinking, so these parties often go until 6 in the morning! Young people, mothers, fathers, children, and grandparents all participate. It took me several months to realize that I hate staying up until 6 am, probably because I love sleeping. So now I limit my partying.

Anyways, the point is, I may have gotten electricity and running water (which I did not want), but I am still experiencing a whole new culture. And I live with one of the best host families ever, have supportive Peruvian friends, and two adorable cats, but living here has still humbled me.  The generosity, the dustiness, the subtle poverty, the jealousy, the pride, and the chaos. Peru has so many great things about it, but at the end of the day, I remember that this is not my culture. It’s exhausting to read between the lines in people's conversations and understand discrepancies  (and my spanish has gotten a LOT better, but it’s still hard!). And it’s tiring living in someone else’s home and eating Peruvian meals for months.  

We did lose power one night this month though

I had a lovely birthday though. On Thursday the 13th some of my friends came over as a surprise and we had some delicious vegetarian causa, some drinks, and some cakes. We danced to some silly songs before going to bed by midnight. I had to wake up early the next day to help clean a captacion (where they capt drinking water from). On Saturday my friends came for lunch and we had a delicious yuca a la olla. My host Mom got me TWO cakes and Nathy and I made a pinata.

My friends 🫶🏽

#blessed

[thaunknowndreadhead]

If you feel like no one loves you. The Lord God loves you. People may hate you for your shortcomings, people may hate you for whatever, but don't lose hope in the Lord. Repent and turn away from ways that are unrighteous. Kill the lust, kill the hatred, kill the jealousy, kill the interfamilial waring. We will never heal if we don't let go of these things. Satan will consume us if we don't let go of what doesn't serve us. I was confused for years. I was struggling and suffering for years. But I know that ever since I've recently let a lot go, I've have been more confident than ever before thanks to the Lord. The Lord God will get us through. No matter what anyone says the Lord God is what matters the Lord God is to be glorified. And he will help us defeat any of Satan's devices. We can do all things through Christ. God bless

[chthonicdivinebard]

In Homer, Sappho, and others Aphrodite is perceived as the root cause of strong passions, above all of longing and love but also of hate, rivalry, and jealousy. Not an Artemis, She does not shoot people down with arrows, nor is She a Hera, bloodthirstily planning the sack of a city or the torments of a male victim. What She does do is create states of mind that may become the causes of murder, interfamily feuds, the sack of cities, and wars between nations. And She "is" like Artemis in that it is women whom She most often dooms. "She wrests them out of a life of security and restraint and causes them distress by a blind and often criminal devotion to a strange man" (Otto 1954: 98). This is why Homer, and Sappho even more, describes Her, like the other queens [of heaven], as remorseless, implacable, and cruel- but cruel in the special sense that She causes "cruel longing" and "cares that exhaust the limbs."

“The Meaning of Aphrodite” by Paul Friedrich (p 97)

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[panatmansam]

Hey Sam, do you think that the reason it's not acceptable to marry/have kids with your sister/brother is because a long time ago it was realised that doing so would result in impaired children, and had it not been the case that reproducing with family would result in this impairment do you think it would've resulted in it being more acceptable to be with your sibling like 'that' now? sorry if this doesnt make sense haha

I think that the possibility of genetic deformity was an important part of it. However, the evidence seems to indicate that marriages between siblings creates strife and interfamily jealousies which is perhaps another reason that such liaisons are forbidden and taboo in virtually every society on Earth.

#Anonymous #ask #asks #question #answer

[shallowseeker]

Claire & Jack are uneasy around each other at best; actively dislike each other at worst

==It's tension, mostly==

Like, they’re not obvious about it or anything, but they're wary of each other. Hostility is simmering just beneath the surface on both sides.

==Claire was already "late" to the Jody-and-Alex show==

Claire isn’t as wholly integrated into the Jody Mills household as she'd like. Every time someone new arrives, like Patience Turner, it upsets the order and Claire feels pushed to the side.

Despite everything, deep down, and against her better judgment, she loves Cas and the Winchesters. Sure, she left them behind...the Cas-and-Claire show was too painful and too complicated.

But even though she left, she still likes Cas's attention and his emojis, and she still sleeps with the Grumpy Cat. Even though she wants no part of his dumb show, it hurts to see the Cas-and-Jack show. Claire can't seem to star in anyone's stupid show.

And after all this time? The Winchesters still coddle her and don't believe in her hunting skills, but they let this Jack Kline do everything. They trust him.

==And Jack?==

Jack has never felt jealous before, but there's something hurtful in how she throws her arms so easily around Dean and Cas and even Sam, and the easy affection they have for each other feels...strange.

It makes his eyes prickle and his skin itch.

Jack has to shoulder so much and wield his powers with such precision, but Claire is a wrecking ball…and she doesn't have to worry about any consequences from her Bull-in-China-shop approach to hunting.

And they protect her.

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