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staliaqueen · 2 months
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Mal's Gilmore Girls rewatch: Here Comes the Son 3.21
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GILMORE GIRLS | 3.20 "Say Goodnight, Gracie"
JESS MARIANO meets his father for the first time at 18
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allthisheaven2 · 7 months
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so its like they have the same mannerisms when they talk and move + the same twitchy defensive anger + the same cadence of voice + they enjoy similar hobbies + they are leavers in the dead of night (metaphorical) when they get scared + something something sins of the father. and jess had never ever met his father til he was 18. hm. however
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like this is as on the nose as it gets. surly + angry + uncomfortable in kooky social situations + incapable of displaying affection unless its in weird convoluted awkward ways (the chuppah. the diner care package) + trying really hard at loving and being kind without it feeling like skinning themselves alive
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butchjess · 1 year
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thinks about liz and jess and jess almost grimacing when liz kisses his cheek and jess saying “because THAT’S what family does!” and liz calling him and telling him about the car after luke tells her he stole it and the implication that she and luke are the only ones who had his number in s4 bc he regularly gave it to them and jess saying “i don’t like any of the guys, but she’s gonna do what she’s gonna do.” and “she doesn’t care what we think. she really doesn’t care what i think, i’ve got 19 years of proof to back me up.” and then thinks about jimmy and jess and them sitting together nodding their heads to bowie and jess watching him run away and jess seeing all the books on his shelf and jess begging him to let him stay, “just tell her i’m a dog,” and “you have nothing? i have nothing!” and “i don’t need you to raise me, i’m 18, i’m already raised!” and then my brain blows up inside my own head and i disintegrate into dust. it’s all about family it’s about never ever knowing love ever or not having it in a way you can understand it’s about love that’s complicated and not even good for u! and then becoming better anyway because he wasn’t a lost cause he wasn’t his blood he didn’t have to be like them and
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i have nothing to offer you NOTHING
you have nothing? I have NOTHING
I HAVE NO PLACE TO GO, I CANT STAY AT LUKES, I CANT STAY IN STARS HOLLOW, MY MOTHER IS A WACKJOB
AND WHAT? YOURE SAYING YOUR THIS LOSER AND YOU DONT WANT TO TAKE ME OFF THIS TERRIFIC PATH IM HEADING DOWN?
IM NOT GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL
I DONT KNOW WHAT IM GOING TO DO WITH MY LIFE BUT SOMETHING TELLS ME I BETTER FIGURE OUT SOON OR IM GOING TO BE THE GUY ON THE BOARDWALK SELLING THE HEMP HATS
i own one of those hats they're nice hats
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thefirst3chapters · 4 months
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"Here Comes the Son" has the whole plot line of Jess going to find Jimmy and finding how they are alike (books, music, running away), and evidently the premise of Windward Circle was about the father and son getting to know each other. But the dynamic that Jess has with the other characters in this episode is so interesting.
He just had his fish out of water moment on the beach with "Catch a Wave" (a Part 2 of sorts to his "This is Hell" moment in his first episode in Stars Hollow) before he meets Sasha. The way Jess, who is facing the world alone and who the show just made clear is completely out of place in LA, sees all of the stray animals that Sasha takes care of is so on-the-nose. (Plus there's his "I swear, I'll bite you back" to the dog that is delivered so fearfully and shows once again that Jess is really just a sensitive nerd.)
And then he sees Lily, who probably reminds him of himself and Rory, and thinks maybe she could be his sister judging from the way he asks Sasha about her. How did it make Jess feel to see that Jimmy, who not only walked out on infant Jess but then just showed up and walked out on teen Jess, has a loving, quasi father-daughter relationship with Lily? That would have been interesting to explore. When Sasha and Jess are walking to the hot dog stand, Jess sees Sasha stop multiple times to check on people in the community. So not only does Sasha take care of stray animals, but apparently she looks out for people, too.
Sasha's personality and style seem like a direct opposite of Jess's, and it is easy to imagine Jess being annoyed with her like he was with the guy who offered him directions in the beginning of the episode. Sasha might remind him of Liz (free-spirited, hippie aesthetic) and/or Lorelai (admired by the community and single mom of a bookish daughter), but he is polite and seems appreciative. It would have been neat to see how the dynamic of Jess being a stray kid that Sasha takes under her wing would have played out.
Jess is also remarkably polite when he is at Jimmy's hot dog stand and when Jimmy starts rambling about his friend. Just like when Jimmy showed up at the diner, Jess ends up having to try to be the more mature person than his parent. (A recurring theme for him, and the show.) Jess is in so much pain and is so desperate that he begs to crash at the house like a dog (again, the stray animal motif). Of course this last scene is juxtaposed with Rory finding out that Jess is gone and Lorelai finding out that Rory is valedictorian of Chilton because you can't have Jess and Rory without tragic parallels.
Something that Jess needed so desperately, and maybe more than anything else, was help sorting through the way he grew up and the emotional trauma that came with it. That is one thing Luke just wasn't prepared to give him, because he had his own family trauma and problems with emotional repression that he hadn't really worked through. Maybe Sasha could have been the best candidate to support this aspect of Jess's character development if Windward Circle worked out (because it probably wouldn't be Jimmy), and maybe it would've changed Jess's arc if he still returned to Gilmore Girls in S4.
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jessmmariano · 1 year
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Fanfics where Jess has a good relationship with Sasha and Lily >>>>
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megexpress · 2 years
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3x21 - Here Comes the Son
I don't need a daddy. I just need a place to crash. Do you understand it's only in the last five years that I even started to put my life together? You don't wanna be around me. I am a screw-up. That is my genetic code. Well, the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. Don't say that. You're young, you can do anything you want.
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anxiouspotatorants · 4 months
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Just in case nobody's come up with it before me: Literati AU set to French Kiss (1995) where Rory is an anxious airplane-taker flying to London to get her cheating fiance (Logan or Dean, you decide!) back and happens to sit next to an American-turned English con artist named Jess.
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frazzledsoul · 7 months
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There's something so fucked-up about creating a cozy rom-com to redeem Jimmy Mariano, of all people.
Let's forget the first attempt at the backstory because it was obviously changed. Jimmy knocks up this teenage girl, somehow agrees to marry her, they have an apartment and a life set up and they're at least going to try family life, and he bails before the baby comes home. The show doesn't talk about it because the subject is supposed to be about the Gilmores and the betrayal of Lorelai running away and choosing a less prestigious lifestyle, as well as how it's always more important that Lorelai is embarrassed to tell her wealthy father she's sleeping with his wealthy business partner or how Jess won't plan for dates and how this is the worst thing in the universe or whatever comparatively trivial thing is often going on with the main characters, but the Danes really could not take the stress of Liz being left alone as a teenager with a baby. The business was failing, William Danes got very sick at some point, and Luke (also only a teenager when this started) was the only person to hold it together...Jimmy left Liz in the middle of that, likely knowing she didn't stop drinking while she was pregnant, knowing she couldn't and wouldn't stop partying, knowing the rest of the family couldn't handle it. He didn't come back for eighteen years (and I doubt he paid child support, either) and when he did exactly...what was he expecting? Liz is gone, Luke is barely holding it together, Jess at this point is something of a broken husk of a kid who's finally failed at keeping his demons at bay...what did you think would happen, buddy? You abandoned your kid to that, two decades ago. I guess you thought it's like giving a kid up for adoption and you'd show up and find out that he's done fine without you and you can stop thinking about it, but you didn't sign the papers to give him a better life, you just left. And once you find out that he's not better off, that you had a big part in making him what he is, you leave again.
And when Jess comes to find him, in a beach bum version of Stars Hollow where he will never fit in and that he's going to hate worse than the place he just left, he rejects Jess again, because he just can't handle it again and even after making all the effort to go and see him in the first place, he doesn't have any room for Jess in his family or his life, even if Jess has no one else. He has to beg to be given half a chance, and Jimmy barely takes it. Where's the shame, the guilt, the sense of responsibility? Why does the kid you abandoned have to beg YOU for a chance, Jimmy?
And I don't care if he's cute and charming and ASP thinks throwing a handful of la-la-las in this bucolic environment is going to cover up the ugliness here. I don't care if the excuse of being a teenage father is going to be what Jimmy keeps riding on, because Luke and Lorelai were children when they got the huge responsibilities of a small baby and a dying dad dumped on their laps, and they still tried to care for the people that needed them. I don't want to see THAT GUY, who has no shame or guilt over what he's done and seems to resent Jess for asking for anything, redeemed. Fuck you, deadbeat dad. Put in some effort. Oh, it might harm your laconic hot dog stand owner vibe. I forgot.
So I'm glad it never happened, because Jimmy Mariano didn't deserve it, and I don't think it was what Jess needed, and the fact that he comes back to Stars Hollow angrier than ever and still spitting nails at Luke, unable to offer either Luke or Rory any sort of an apology or explanation, is definitely an indication that things did not go well out there. I know ASP would likely have had all kinds of excuses for Jimmy just like she did for Christopher and fail to really account for the harm he caused the kid he left behind, just like she did for Christopher but I think...we had more than enough of that for this universe, especially with the attempts to wave away Liz's behavior that we got over the next few years.
We didn't need more of that. Let Jess silently hate his worthless dad. Rory didn't get to. There should be one character that does.
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kimberly-stocks · 3 months
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He looks so happy! It's in his eyes, he looks calm and content 😍
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scoopsgf · 2 years
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tbh the first time i watched the show i def related to the jew-ish nature of the danes, i’m a quarter on my dad’s side and grew up with yiddish slang and ashki food without actually being jewish lol i always kinda thought of jess and luke being similar
exactly like they are just extremely jewish to me. it’s all there. the yiddish, the chuppah, etc etc. i have so much fun weaving aspects of jewish culture into luke and jess’s scenes & i genuinely feel like it’s just. who they are. they are jewish. it feels natural to me <3
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hey guys I think I have to come clean...
I am secretly ASP I started this account years ago pretending to be a fall out boy fan and then had it evolve over time to a literati stan account
here are things that are so true bestie
the danes and marianos are jewish except Jimmy who just follows along with whatever spiritual thing Sasha has going on
jess, rory, lane, dave, are all bisexual jess gets a boyfriend in Philly after the Rory incident
paris is in fact a lesbian don't ask about Doyle
season 7 is a disgrace to television
I hate logan as much as you do
dean is a piece of shit we were intentionally gaslighting you so you could get the full rory experience
luke was supposed to be a leftist woman named Louisa who never forgave liz the way luke did is and was much more protective of jess when is came to Liz but we changed the character last minute to we could have a love interest for lorelai
fuck Chris
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clerati · 7 months
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Jimmy on Jess staying with him for a few weeks: "If [Sasha] says yes, we'll see. [....] It may not work out. [...] But I'll ask, and if she says it's okay, we'll see."
This is, of course, after Sasha has already told Jimmy she'd make up the extra mattress for Jess, because she assumed he was staying with them.
Hmmm, I wonder why Jimmy was never mentioned again... 😒
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jessmmariano · 1 year
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I think it’s so funny that ASP gave Sherilyn Fenn (the actress who played Sasha and Anna) not one, but two roles in which she was a ‘cool’ single mother. It’s even funnier considering that Fenn was who ASP wanted to cast for Lorelai originally instead of Lauren Graham.
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