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post-it-notes7 · 7 months

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So it's a pretty established rule in the Mirror Realm that reflections reform after shattering, but on average how commonplace is it for a being to shatter? Is it just another Tuesday kind of event, or is it considered rare even for them? Followup question of sorts, is it societally considered dishonorable and humiliating, or not even thought of at all?

I imagine the metrics are different between those of riskier professions vs the average waddle dee, but I still can't help but be curious! (Hope you're enjoying your Amazing Mirror playthrough btw!!)

This is going to be another long one, better settle in :)

Shattering is most commonly caused through accidents, whether it's from a fight that went too far, a misstep that ends in a lava pit, or—on the unlucky occasion—poisoning, any typically-lethal blow will do it. Your health gets too low for any reason, you take too much physical damage, and you hit the shattering threshold. Poof!

With all the counterparts in the Mirror World being tied to the Dimensional Mirror, that does mean that accidents can add up over time, and several reflections may be respawning at once, and at random. It'll happen periodically throughout the day, and for that reason, the Dimension Mirror stands in neutral territory—Rainbow Route, to be game-specific, the hub for travel. The Mir GSA's main base is close by, but they abide by the neutrality rule, and don't interfere with those respawning who aren't their own.

You probably have a 50/50 shot of any one counterpart having been shattered before! It certainly depends on what they do on their own time, but there's a fair mix of both those who have shattered before, and those who haven't. It's usually considered polite not to ask.

And now we get to the more complex discussions. Shattering itself is viewed differently depending on who you ask.

There are those who take it more lightly. It's (conditionally speaking) not as if it's permanent, right? It's not death. You come back as if that final blow never even happened. Why waste time overthinking it? These views make up a decent percent of the population.

In the middle, you have those with more complicated viewpoints. Should we really treat shattering so frivolously? Sure, you respawn so long as your counterpart is alive, but it's not as if the experience is pleasant. It's kind of mean to do it on purpose... Maybe even hostile. Really, it's reasonable to feel wary about the possibility of it happening. They make up the overall majority, but are the most diverse in terms of thinking.

And then you have those who take it into serious consideration, each time, and every time. Who will avoid it if possible, and be the most reluctant to resort to it. They are the minority viewpoint.

Mir Falspar, to single him out as a wonderful example, is a bit of an outlier even in that regard. He's on the latter side, and treats shattering with a lot of weight despite its direct overlap with his job as a security/bodyguard. He doesn't know if the intruders he fights are on their last life—thus, he treats each shattering he commits as if it is going to be permanent. It's his job not to hesitate, his conviction can't waver when he's the last line of defense. The second someone raises their sword against him or those he guards, they've forfeited their life to him, and he will shatter them before they can cause any further harm. Again, he takes it seriously, and because of that is probably most prepared to confront what it means to shatter someone permanently.

In the same vein, Mir Falspar tends to avoid putting anyone in the Mir GSA at unnecessary risk of shattering, no matter how frequently he has to deal with carrying it out. Ultimately, it should be avoided if possible. He's been shattered several times prior to his last and most concerning incident, and each one was disorienting and overall unpleasant. After all, it's not like you forget what it feels like to die, just because you come back good as new.

In the wrong scenarios, in the worst ones, shattering can be traumatic, and this, unfortunately, is societally considered an overreaction in the Mirror World, even by those who are more sympathetic. Sentiment favors the fact that death isn't always permanent with shattering, and thus shouldn't be treated as such. Sure it's unpleasant, but why should you take it seriously enough that you keep yourself up at night? You're fine, right? You respawned. It wasn't permanent.

There's a lot of problems with that, though the instance doesn't happen very often. Shattering has been normalized in the Mirror World; what hasn't, is making a "big deal" about it after coming back.

And with that, thank you for the ask!

#post's rambles #post's doodles #I will begrudgingly admit that I haven't played katam but I have watched playthroughs and stared at the backgrounds on google for too long #my last long post lore post for a bit hope ya like snacking on these #<- I say this as if I won't randomly write five more paragraphs responding to an ask anyway

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voiddemon · 2 years

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my brothers in christ

#this is it #this is all im posting now #skirb's katam sprite #shadow kirby

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pinkestmenace · 5 months

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Thoughts on Dark Meta Knight

A continuation of 'Thoughts on Shadow Kirby'. This is a long one!

TL;DR: I first talk about his relation to Taranza and Sectonia, then comes the fic I 'accidentally' wrote, then I talk about his (mirror) abilities and relation to Meta Knight (or rather, his inherited memories.)

Have you ever noticed how whenever people talk about the whole Dark Meta Knight/Dimension Mirror/Taranza/Corrupted Sectonia issue, it's always "Taranza must hate DMK so much!" and never "DMK must hate Taranza so much!" or even "Why did Joronia/Sectonia keep a magical mirror that clearly oozed bad vibes?" (Note: I'm neither saying Taranza is a poor uwu boy who did nothing wrong nor that he is evil incarnate. He didn't know DMK was in there nor that the mirror had lingering corruption. I am however saying he was a fool for stealing an important magical artifact! All three were hurt here.) I mean, come on. Sectonia is an individual with agency. You're telling me she just placidly accepted this whole situation and only gets to serve as an "Evil queen needs to die!" and "Woe is Taranza, his beloved is dead!" plot device? She could have been corrupted/replaced by her own reflection! Maybe she was as interested in studying DMK/this weird danger orb in 'her' mirror as he was in corrupting her.

That is, if he did corrupt her. Who's to say he wanted that? Or had the ability to, other than by speaking? We've heard nothing about him having corrupting magic. Besides, what would he gain from it? Sectonia could've already been somewhat unhinged before she got the mirror and this was just the beginning of a domino effect. Remember, the mirror you fight him in in Triple Deluxe seems to be the one that was in the middle of the Central Circle, not the entrance of the Mirror World. That's the one Dark Mind was hiding out in and judging by how destroyed it still looks inside it's also the most likely place for any corruption to linger. (Luckily for the other inhabitants, I'd say. Not so lucky for him or poor Shadow, who in DMK's absence was likely left alone to defend the Mirror World and therefore grew more agressive like we see him in other games. He had no allies and no choice but to learn to fight.) I think that Shadow spawned when Kirby first entered the mirror, but DMK was likely around at least a little longer than that, judging by how he seems to have a pretty good grasp on his abilities already.

So. Since Triple Deluxe is clearly inspired by fairy tales, (Consider the Dreamstalk/beanstalk, a palace in the sky and a wicked beauty-obsessed queen with a literal magic mirror!) why not spin a little tale of our own?

I want you to imagine being Dark Meta Knight for a moment.

Mirror, Mirror, From the Sky — Who's the Wickedest and Why?

Once upon a time a dark force secretly infested your world. Depending on how long you've been around, you either spawned as a flawed clone, or you got to feel yourself being corrupted. You may not even know who you are, other than what the wisps of your inherited memories and skills tell you. Either way, the heydays of good fortune, friends and fair weather are nothing but a burning memory to you.

Dark Mind, the force calls itself and it takes an interest in you, since it could use a strong henchman. Now you have this flaming eyeball breathing down your neck, playing at being your master and ordering you around. Tsch. Do you dance like a pathetic little puppet? Do you plead with it using the fancy words you find on your tongue, but did not learn yourself? Do you obey to save your own skin, or resist and risk having your mind broken and hollowed out further? Do you have it in you to become a double agent? You are a scared toddler who only just learned how to walk. You are a hardened knight who has no patience for this. The armour you wear shows traces of battles you haven't fought. You cling to it in preparation for what's to come.

It sends you to go remove some obstacles. A pink child and your own doppelganger. Fueled by bitter resentment and childish petulance you dare to bend your orders just slightly. Rather than rend the child into pieces, you refract him into four. Rather than sending your doppelganger back to his maker, you lock him in with yours and break the mirror to prevent his escape. (As well as Dark Mind's escape, that is.) Your master is angry. That's fine. You're already wrong and broken and don't give a crap.

Eventually the child and his refractions fix and enter the mirror and your master gives you an ultimatum. Twice it told you to get rid of the brat and twice you have failed! Now, to prove your loyalty you must put your life on the line. Beat the brat. At any cost. Surrender is not an option! You shed the veneer and take out your frustration on the child. But he's too strong. You can feel your body give out! You remember how to beg. "Master, please, I can't take any more!" It's no use. Its fiery gaze scorches you, it widens the cracks in your mind and forces you to continue, miserable marionette that you are.

You shatter and your consciousness fractures. Where did you go so wrong? Why did this have to happen to you? What will become of that strange charcoal child you saw stalking you? You want to go home. That home isn't yours. What does your counterpart think? Like the allegory of the prisoners and the shadows on the cave wall you don't know more than what little you can infer. His flickering gaze is unreadable. There is no cave. You are the shadow. You have no idea what philosophy is.

??? days later you somehow wake up. You get your bearings. You're still in this ruined miniature dimension, but your master is gone. You're alone. Tsch. Figures the brat and your blue bastard of a counterpart would abandon you. What's wrong with them?! (What's wrong with you? Are you really that disposable? Maybe they didn't know you still had life left in you either. Did they mourn for you?) At least the mirror portal is right there. You'll go back to the Central Circle, find something to eat and then you'll plot your revenge against the world that failed to welcome you! You just have to step out...

...into a large bedroom. You look around. Fancy furnishings that would befit a palace. A breathtaking view of the rising sun, which drapes the room in purples and oranges. It hurts your eyes. You look down. A vanity? Where the Shards—

You don't get time to think before a piercing shriek rends the air. You look to your left and see a strange spider-like creature charging at you, wielding twin rapiers! You quickly leap out of the way and draw your own sword.

The woman stops in front of you, clad in a simple but refined silk nightgown, her four unoccupied hands balled into tight fists. She stares you down with her four front eyes. Is this spider as afraid of you as you are of her? She's Princess Joronia, you soon learn. She received the mirror as a gift.

She sympathises with you and offers you a cup of herbal tea to calm your nerves. You've never had tea, (not-you remembers the taste) but by the Mirror's mercy do you know you're thirsty! You accept it, if only to buy yourself time to figure out what's going on and come up with a way to escape with the mirror. The tea soothes you, although it has a strange aftertaste and Joronia's smile is gentle, if a bit too practised. Her gleaming upper eyes gaze patiently into yours. She doesn't drink. You're tired, so tired.

The next day you wake up inside the mirror and try to leave again. Joronia didn't seem so bad. Maybe you can convince her to let you return the mirror! You find it's been magically sealed.

"Oh, don't worry," says 'Joronia' through the glass, her eyes and smile just a little darker and haughtier than they were yesterday, "it's only a safety precaution until we get to know each other better." But months later she still hasn't let you leave with the mirror. Instead, she's been staring into it more and more, fussing endlessly over her make-up and increasingly ostentatious outfits. She laments to you as if you are nothing but a pet she can vent to freely. "Uhuhuhu~! Didn't I look simply unacceptable before? I just couldn't stand my dull reflection. Tell me how gorgeous I am! Then I might even feel generous enough to feed you."

You grow bitter. How trapped you are! Behind you is the ruined hellscape where you were broken and humiliated. In front of you is an increasingly deranged self-obsessed woman who you're forced to ingratiate yourself to for scraps. Tsch! You are caged and seething! The day you find the person who subjected you to this your sword will taste blood! Soon your vibe arsenic joins the maddening sulfuric stench that abhorrent eyeball left behind. Your mind and the mirror grow ever darker in a vicious cycle. It's been years. You yearn for sights you have only seen in dreams. You cannot die.

The reborn and remade Queen Sectonia doesn't care. She's too busy solidifying her power and enhancing her own grotesque beauty to pay attention to the machinations of naughty little strays. Your sharpened tongue pleases her just enough to spare you and coax out news of the outside world. You are her obedient pet. The keeper of her innermost secrets. More loyal than her advisor. You hone yourself and your blade when she's not looking.

So when Sectonia dies and the seal goes with her, you are ready. You don't care who's on the other side. You. Only. Want. REVENGE.

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Headcanon time!

I see DMK as leaning into using his mirror abilities, not so much because he wants to prove himself superior to Meta Knight, but because that's something only HE can do. Something he 'earned', not inherited. He wants to be the best at something without needing help.

When he spawned he already knew how to speak, move and wield his sword. Or rather, the second he attempted to do any of these things he 'remembered' how to do them.

Wouldn't it be funny and tragic if so much of his life consists of discovering skills he didn't know he had, that belong to someone who isn't quite him? What surprises will his memory give him today? Amnesiac roulette.

Imagine: he's just idly fidgeting with a sheet of paper and looks down to see he's accidentally folded a perfect little origami crane. He crushes the crane. Tsch. Another skill he didn't earn! (Later he secretly learns to fold something Meta Knight hasn't folded before, just so he can say he made the skill his own. He will deny this.)

He didn't know he had the ability to mend his cape. Yet when he found needle and thread his hands traced the movements with practised ease. He refuses to mend his cape and claims it fits his rough-and-tough aesthetic. (He collects scraps and quilts a cozy blanket for his hideout. He claims to have found it in the trash.)

He comes across a book in a language he has never seen before. He can read it! The contents make little sense to him. He tries writing, but discovers his handedness is opposite to Meta Knight's. Ink smudges his left glove as he adjusts. (It shouldn't matter. He's ambidextrous! Try as he might, he still cannot draw or write with his right hand.)

Infodump about memory function incoming! (TL;DR: there are several types of memories, some about life events, some about sensations or skills.) I hope I can explain this correctly using an example.

Imagine you're going for a stroll in the park. You don't have to think consciously about every movement you make because you already know how to walk. You decide where to go and your brain handles the details automatically. (Procedural memory. This is what let him immediately move and fight.)

You spot someone walking a dog. Your brain goes: "Dog!!!" You don't have to analyse every feature of the animal to know this because the holistic concept of "Dog" in your brain immediately lights up and couples it to the language part of you to remember the correct name. (Semantic memory. This let him recognise the world and understand speech.)

You consider petting it. Your hand experiences the ghost of fur underneath. It just stopped raining, so your nose anticipates the wet dog smell as well. (Sensory memory. He gets whiffs of sensations and tastes he hasn't experienced himself.)

You approach the dog. Suddenly you realise you've seen this dog before! It was last week and when you pet it wrong it snapped at you. You remembered a specific event. (Episodic memory. He didn't get this one and therefore doesn't remember Meta Knight's life. He has to puzzle out what his 'original' is like from the other remembered scraps he got.)

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metaknightsimp · 12 days

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Happy 20th birthday kirby and the amazing mirror!!!!

I like to think dark meta knight, being meta knights counterpart, doesn't care much for sweets, and is a little mad that he has to deal with a sugared up shadow kirby too! Don't worry, he's still having fun.

#kirby #kirby fanart #meta knight kirby #kirby and the amazing mirror #katam #dark meta knight #dark meta knight kirby #shadow kirby #did i mention that i also find dark meta to be extremely hot?#hes literally meta but he lives at hot topic and is mean to me #hes perfect

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stupidgalaxybrain · 1 year

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Ah, the classic. Meta Knight and Dark Meta Knight have big sibling energy to me, and as an elder sibling myself, I would flip off my younger brother from my mirror prison too. Of the four redraws I just worked on, this one has changed the least compositionally because I think the original is perfect in that arena. Honestly as nice as it looks when given more than an hour and a half, it's kinda lost it's wonky charm. Well, the original still exists.

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#mykirbyart #kirby #kirby and the amazing mirror #meta knight #dark meta knight #I FORGOT TO MENTION IT IN THE POST BUT IT'S VERY SPECIFIC SO IN THE TAGS IT GOES #I didn't fully realize at the time how incremental DMK's design differences were introduced #During KATAM he's only a palette swap #Triple Deluxe introduces the mask scar #And his wings aren't ragged until Star Allies #I've since decided to mirror (ha) that progression and so right now he doesn't have either of those features #I promise I didn't forget what he looks like it's all intentional

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maybe-arts · 8 months

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something something sketchy version of Bobbin (mirror!Ribbon). colors and proper ref might be later down the line

i accidentally gave her lore so i had to draw her at the very last

bonus: skirbin for life

when you say "Hey, listen!" and he listens <3

#kirby #kirby series #kirby and the amazing mirror #shadow kirby #ribbon kirby #mirror ribbon #bobbin #kirribbon #kiiiiiiiinda since it's mirror ribbon #yes i gave skirby ravio's hood with a hammer bc my ass fully considers lorule roughly equal to mirror world in katam #(i've never played lbw)#if you feel the midna vibes from her that was general idea yes

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fullmoonfireball · 10 months

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ok so my mind was wandering while i was trying to do something else, and the thought my brain settled on was how This Guy...

...is not Kirby.

or well. not THE Kirby, at least. this is Pink Kirby- much like how the others are Yellow Kirby (NOT Keeby in this context!), Red Kirby, and Green Kirby. because, y’know. Dark Meta Knight split THE Kirby into four.

so like. that’s all well and good, it’s a silly little thought for me to sit with as i do things. then it hits me.

WHY THE FUCK DID DARK META KNIGHT DO THAT?

I look at a summary of KatAM’s plot to make sure I’m not forgetting anything. nothing. I look up the intro cutscene just in case. nothing. why did he do that!!!

like. okay. when Necrodeus split Kirby into 10, it was explicitly to weaken him so he could kill Kirby, since each of those Kirbys were smaller and FAR weaker than the original.

heck, in the anime, when Kirby gets split in 2 by Kittari Hattari, there’s a motive for it too! mind you, said motive IS just Dedede fucking around as per usual, but that’s something! plus, Dedede commands it to cut Kirby into smaller and smaller bits- there’s the threat of eradication here, too, especially since Kirby’s halves don’t seem to be as capable as the whole.

but in Amazing Mirror, DMK just drops in to split Kirby up, and then fucks off. the Kirbys are a little disoriented at first, but they immediately give chase. which like. okay. that’s a fine hook, I guess. I’m not sure Kirby would’ve even realized anything was wrong at this point if DMK hadn’t done that, but DMK’s a little bitch so it’s not like this part’s a problem. the problem is that the four Kirbys all seem to be fully capable. Kirby wasn’t divided here- he was multiplied. so once again, I ask: WHY DID HE DO THAT?

#Rambles Into The Void #sorry i'm going insane again #i love KatAM but. auuuaaaaaaaahhhggh!!!#why did he do that!!!#i know the out-of-universe reason is to have 4 players but like. there are other games with multiple Kirbys playable #and they don't tend to bake it into the plot y'know?#so why'd he do thatttttttttttt

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senseikaduguedes · 2 years

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II Encontro #CAPIXABA #KATA #Open Capixaba de Kata @fejoficales @rioitiuchida @fernandesjudo @amaraljosmar @leandrosel #judo #ES #cbj #kodokan #kata #nage #ju #katame #sp (em Vitória - ES) https://www.instagram.com/p/ChuMUw_O-Tu/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=

#capixaba #kata #open #judo #es #cbj #kodokan #nage #ju #katame #sp

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paintpanic · 2 years

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dmk is showing them a horror movie

#dark meta knight #shadow kirby #katam kirbies #sure i'll use that tag for them #food cw #dametadad supremacy #i dont know why i like it but i do #eye contact #ask 2 tag #secret tag

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timeturner-jay · 2 years

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Meta Knight and Galaxia: An Observation (and maybe a theory)

Earlier today, I was watching a playthrough of Kirby's Return to Dreamland, and as the group was fighting Magolor Soul EX, I noticed something peculiar:

In his EX form, he uses Galaxia. Huh! I never knew about that! It's gotten my theory brain going a little, I'll admit. How did he get that? Why is there more than one of it to begin with?

If the Master Crown can summon Galaxia, is there some kind of connection between the two relics?

Well. Let's see.

Before the games officially started using the name "Galaxia" (a name that first appeared in the Kirby anime) for the legendary blade, the fan community had a different name for it: the Master Sword. What looks like a tongue-in-cheek reference to Legend of Zelda at first glance actually has some canon basis - in Kirby and the Amazing Mirror, Meta Knight entrusts his sacred sword to Kirby for the final battle. The copy ability Kirby receives thereupon is simply called the "Master ability"; so the sword he got it from must consequently be called the Master Sword, right?

(Granted, the sword's design has changed quite a bit since then, but it's presumably still the same weapon that is known as Galaxia nowadays. The in-game spritework also has that golden energy dance around the blade in ways that strongly resemble Galaxia's familiar prongs.)

So if Galaxia is the Master Sword, and the relic known as the Master Crown can summon alternate versions of it... Perhaps these two artifacts aren't so dissimilar. 👀 I wonder if a similar power to Crowned Magolor could be unleashed through it, if Meta Knight wanted to. Why doesn't he, then?

I've got a few thoughts about that, as well.

As you know, the Master Crown had a guardian, one who was protecting it fiercely without ever tapping into its true power - the dragon Landia.

Perhaps Meta Knight's role is a similar one. Not just a wielder of the Master Sword Galaxia, but its guardian. Someone who can be trusted with such immense power. He does share one more similarity with Landia, after all...

I've compared Meta Knight's and Dragon Fire Kirby's wings in the past, delighted by the similarities, and pointed out that Meta Knight's wings seem a lot more draconic than bat-like to me, what with the talons and all... So perhaps, in a roundabout way, he too could be likened to a dragon protecting its hoard, just like Landia.

Perhaps relic guardians (if indeed there is an official role like that) were selected specifically for their draconic qualities - after all, in many cultures, dragons are thought of as wise and long-lived protectors. Who better to entrust a relic with god-like powers to for safekeeping?

There's also the fact that Meta Knight seems so utterly unsurprised by anything happening in the RtD finale, outside of perhaps Magolor's betrayal itself - where everyone else is acting surprised and confused, he just takes it all in stride, like he knows what's going on and what to do about it. Like none of this is new to him. He even uses Galaxia to deflect some of Crowned!Magolor's attacks - how did he know that he'd be able to do that, unless he was a lot more familiar with this type of relic than he lets on?

I just have a lot of thoughts about Meta Knight's role in the Kirby series. I doubt HAL will ever actually confirm anything, because being "a mysterious Knight" is kind of just his Thing now, but if you look into things just a little bit, there are a lot of vague implications that hang around him.

Maybe none of this means anything, and it's all just conjecture. But it's fun to think about, in any case. It could make for some interesting headcanons, if nothing else.

(There's also the fact that Void Termina summons the Master Crown for one of its attacks, so what does that mean for the Master Sword? And Meta Knight's own implied relationship with Void? The rabbit hole just keeps going and going!)

#Kirby #Theory #Meta Knight #Galaxia #Master Crown #Master Sword Galaxia #Kirby's Return to Dreamland #KRtDl #Magolor #Magolor Soul EX #Kirby and the Amazing Mirror #KatAM #Landia #Dragon Fire #Lore #Analysis

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