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kinnspocketporsche · 2 years

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Metaphor Done Right: Childhood's End in KinnPorsche

Full transparency: I have not read this book. But I did major in literature which means I am highly proficient in Making Books Make Sense without reading them. Having said that, if anyone who has read this book calls bullshit on me - that's valid. If you read the book and think this post makes no sense, you're probably right. All I'm saying is I think I could pull off a decent grade in a KinnPorsche Lit Analysis course XD

Like any good metaphor, this one has multiple meanings: a tangible, in-universe meaning, and a broader, meta-meaning - so bear with me; as per usual, I have a lot to say.

The Title

I don't think the title is the only reason this book was chosen, but before we get to that - even if it was the only reason this book was chosen, it has more depth to it than the message it intends to send to the viewers.

Who is reading this book, in-universe? Who chose to read this book in-universe? Vegas.

Right, obviously I didn't need to tell you that, but y'all - we do choose books by their covers, I don't care what anyone says, and we choose them by their titles. I had multiple lectures on cover design and analysis during uni because of this and it was actually fascinating.

I also want to consider what Vegas is trying to get from reading. We might read for pleasure, to learn a new skill, or to learn something about ourselves and the world we live in. I look at Vegas's face here and I think about him asking his abusive father "What am I supposed to do?" and I think he's looking for answers.

The title of the book might be meaningful for us, the viewers, but it had meaning for Vegas and that's a lot more important. Do y'all think Vegas, who has grown up alongside death and amidst abuse his whole life, is morning the loss of his childhood now, in, what, his 20s? I don't. Do y'all think Vegas, who's tortured and killed repeatedly, is a child? Yeah, me neither.

So why this book? Daddy issues again, yep! Gun treats Vegas like a child! He even groups him in with Macau, who is very clearly more childlike in age and demeanor. And here's Vegas thinking he's getting this treatment because he's a failure, looking across the bridge at Kinn who's in the process of taking over for his father. Vegas does one thing of his own volition and his dad says he's ruined everything. He can't come close to being himself. It's insulting and painful for him. We might see the title Childhood's End and think "loss of innocence" but Vegas sees it and probably thinks "freedom." Most 20-something-year-olds with an overbearing parent would, and especially one with and overbearing and abusive parent. I don't think it will give him the answers he was expecting, but I think the book's answer does further the one that Pete ultimately provides.

The Book as a Book

Just real quick - the fact that of all KP characters, we're seeing Vegas read and be associated with books has meaning on its own. This goes back to him needing to look for answers beyond the ones he's been handed by the people in his life - but books can indicate intellect, knowledge, learning. Also, very relevantly, words and their meanings. Vegas reading a book, Vegas reading into Pete's words... They're connected. I also find it interesting that this would indicate, that, even though Vegas doesn't believe in honesty, words are important to him. I mean, if Pete used those double meanings with Porsche - even Kinn, probably - it'd be a lost cause, I think.

The Plot

My quick summary of the book, based off of its Wikipedia page: Aliens decide that humans need supervision. At first they're unobtrusive and seem to be a positive force, leading to great creative feats within the human race. Unsurprisingly, things go sideways and children start losing their identity and merge into a group consciousness - one which is powerful, and dangerous. They're isolated, physically, from everyone else. They eventually lead to the end of the Earth and the end of humanity.

My gut instinct was that Vegas would feel like an alien in the context of a sci-fi book. A victim of child abuse and he's also gay? I mean...

But nope, it's worse than that :) The aliens in this book end up on top, anyway. Vegas feels like a broken human. He's nearing his shattering point, the point of no return, the point of - like the children in the book - losing his whole identity to the demands of his father. Let's break down that summary line by line.

Aliens decide that humans need supervision. Just like Gun constantly supervising his adult son. Ah, Gun, the unnecessary supervision in Vegas's life. The sneaky little bastard that convinced Vegas that Gun was a positive force in his life, and that Vegas was the one fucking things up. Which leads us to the next bit:

At first they're unobtrusive and seem to be a positive force, leading to great creative feats within the human race. At first, it didn't seem so bad - it seemed like Gun was trusting Vegas with things, and Vegas felt pretty powerful kidnapping Porsche and having (seemingly) free rein to play his mind games.

Unsurprisingly, things go sideways and children start losing their identity and merge into a group consciousness - one which is powerful, and dangerous. There's a lot here, but Vegas is losing his identity here. He willingly sacrificed his humanity at (probably) a pretty young age, what with all the death and torture, but he'd come to embrace it. But when things go wrong, it's Vegas who's bad, it's his identity that's flawed. The little things that he chose to do of his own volition - even within the rules provided by his father - are to blame for any failures ("Why didn’t you do what I told you? Why did you defy me?").

They're isolated, physically, from everyone else. This one is obvious, right? Isolated from the rest of society, isolated from the main family, isolated from his own family (Macau) at the safe house. Isolated by the experience of growing up in an abusive household (What did he say to Pete? "You've never gone through what I have?" Huh.). Vegas is very much alone.

They eventually lead to the end of the Earth and the end of humanity. This is the direction Vegas is currently headed. Absolute destruction.

And the children in this book end up kind of in-between human and alien. Pretty nicely aligns with Vegas's monstrous human attributes, the way he's scary even within the mafia world, to everyone except his father. I think that's the abuse coming in to play, mentally he's in a very different place than Kinn and his brothers, even though they all grew up in the mafia. It makes Pete, who's had the same parental experience as Vegas and wasn't from the mafia world originally, especially interesting because he blends in so seamlessly.

It's also interesting that the book's plot twists the meaning of the title on its head. "Childhood's End" has multiple meanings: the children are warped to be these alien-humans, so the literal end of the human children and also the end of humanity's supposed utopia. Maybe utopia under alien supervision looks good, and maybe to Vegas (to any kid), having a father to guide him looks good, but both are leading to a stripping of identity that will end very badly.

Thematic Metaphors

Drive to Conquer

The "peaceful alien invasion" very much parallels colonialism and assimilation. I don't know how to read that summary and not get that vibe. Gun isn't trying to take over a country or a culture, but I think there's something there. The drive to conquer is a huge part of their family. In the book, the alien-human children ultimately consume the Earth, and I wonder if they inherited that from the aliens. I don't know if that's a real thing or just something that I'm incorrectly assuming/hoping for. There's something satisfying about that parallel with Gun and Vegas regardless, but if it's an inherited thing in the book it would really be a perfect fit.

Deception

Sparknotes actually gave me this one. You can probably see it already - the aliens deceived the humans into believing they were helping humanity grow; Gun deceived Vegas into believing he was a dad helping his son grow. Deception is a core part of who Vegas is. There's more of it in the book, but you get the point. Super on par with Vegas and his world. Made more interesting with Pete, who wields his honesty as power and intellect when talking to Vegas, but is also very much capable of deception, as we've seen with his duality.

Does the book give Vegas an answer?

Well... he didn't finish it, I assume, but also, I think the cover being knocked off was telling - I took it to mean that Vegas won't find his answer in books, or at least not in this one.

Also, the book ends with the destruction of humanity. He'd know this already, assuming he read the blurb on the inside cover or the back of the book.

But maybe we can say it would give Vegas a partial answer. It would tell him what not to do. The end of humanity in the book seems to be framed as an inconsequential, but net good thing... for the aliens. For Gun, that would be. For Vegas, following his father will only lead to destruction in the worst way possible - loss of identity, and then loss of, well, everything he currently cares about as an individual. Assuming his father's overwhelming power parallels that of the aliens, maybe fighting his father directly also isn't an option. So he needs to find a third option, which - as previously discussed - is provided by Pete.

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Okay that's all I've got for this post. Anyone who made it to the end here gets a little head pat and a big thank you from me <3 If I'm wrong, do please come shout at me about it (gently). My inbox and DMs are as always very much open for more discussion! :)

VegasPete Communication + Double Meanings Post

Follow-up VP Communication Post

Pete's Escape as a Final Test

#vegaspete #vegas theerapanyakul #kinnporsche meta #kinnporsche analysis #winnie's words #childhood's end #kp meta #kinnporsche episode 11 #kp ep 11 #kinnporche the series #kinnporsche #pete saengtham #gun theerapanyakul #vegas x pete

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idkwiawy · 2 years

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The way pete react 🫣🫣

#kinnporsche #kinnporscheep11

#kinnporsche ep11 #kinnporsche ep 10 #kp ep 11 #pete so hot #vegas so good #pete masochist #vegas the sadist #minor Family #major family #theerapanyakul brothers #kinnporsche #kinnporche the series #novel

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surajmukhis · 2 years

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but do you know the thing that confuses me though?

it's that kim didn't...have to lie. when chay stops him, tears in his eyes and everything, he wasn't asking why did you lie or even how dare you use me. he only asked kim if he ever loved chay.

and i think that's what changed the way i looked at kimchay. it's really not sweet flower petal chay living in a wattpad fic anymore, it's someone much more real, someone willing to come to terms with another heartbreak right on the heels of the one his brother gifted him. i don't know that chay would've forgiven kim or fallen into his arms or anything of the sort but it matters that his question was about what kim felt, rather than what kim did.

which is why, coming back, i don't think kim needed to lie. he could've said yes, salvaged something if not all of what they had. sure he thought he was protecting chay or whatever but that also falls flat doesn't it? chay was already attacked. he's entered the orbit of the theerapanyakuls, there's no keeping him safe now. not really.

it's funny to think how kim can sit in his room and think and connect dots all night but the second it comes to chay he loses all sense of cognitive function

#and by funny i mean tragic. kimhan get your fucking bits together loser #kimchay #kinnporsche the series #kp ep 11 #this isn't meta it's just me realising i have a lot more feelings abt kimchay than initially expected #writing this fic is just taking me on tangent after tangent </3 #ruhi.txt

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tehkatie · 2 years

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Now see I feel comfortable shipping Vegas and Pete now. I like how they made them kindred spirits. I can see why each of them is going to fall. Of course it ain’t healthy at all but I’ve said before I love me a toxic ship as long as it’s in a show targeted at adults who should and mostly do know better than to want a relationship like it.

#katie talks kinnporsche #kinnporsche #vegaspete #kp ep 11

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howdaretrashships · 2 years

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Ok I need this cleared up. We all know and grudgingly accept that the subtitles are cursed when it comes to swearing, and that occasionally there’s something that doesn’t quite translate. (See the “no more doubts between us” scene.)

But this scene with Kimlock Holmes looking into the deaths of Porsche and Chay’s parents…

So in the actual episode it says “two rich deaths”. Which based on the house, doesn’t seem far off. It’s a three?? story house? Considering I’m basing this in my knowledge as an American in my 20s still living with my mom in a one story house - I’d say that before their parents died they would be upper middle class. And then with the uncle’s gambling debts and bad investments, and the loan shark demanding payments they’ve been forced into a lower working class while still keeping the house.

But in the reaction with Barcode and Jeff, it says “death of two dignitaries” which implies a little more than just two upper middle class parents. Were Porsche and Chay’s parents government officials of some kind? Or were they ‘important’ rich people in some other way?

So which translation is more accurate? And how does this tie in or change that one book spoiler I learned about the mom?

#kinnporsche #kinnporsche meta #kp ep 11

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movementsofmylife · 1 year

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ok omg vegas is most pathetic little meow meow. he's so fucking dumb. literally out here developing feelings for his prisoner by treating him like his beloved pet hedgehog. i cannot. this man has never had a proper relationship in his life and it shows. i love him.

'you must suffer until i'm satisfied' like what a way to say 'stay with me'

#vegas theerapanyakul #also fuck his dad #and pete's dad #i have also been losing my fucking mind at the cuts between kp and vegaspete #kinnporsche #kp ep 11

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big-best-boy · 2 years

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Okay but you just know Arm is so tense when Chay enters Tankhun’s sphere bc like this kid isn’t beholden to the Young Master’s whims

#like that’s Porsche’s younger brother don’t want anything bad to happen to him #but also Tankhun is your boss who is used to his word being law #you know he was so thankful chay answered “correctly” and the Khun Nu likes him #i didn’t add pol bc he’s just along for the ride #kinnporsche #kinnporsche episode 11 #KP ep 11 #kinnporsche tankhun #tankhun theerapanyakul #kinnporsche chay #chay #kinnporsche arm #kinnporsche spoilers #kinnporsche pol #porchay kittisawasd #porchay #tankhun

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onlyasgoodasitgets · 2 years

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Thoughts while watching KinnPorsche ep11

my baby Pete

uh oh daddy issues

sleepy babies, cuddly babies

NOT GRANDMA (Pete my love i'm so sorry)

Kinn cares sm about his guards i'm soft

KINNPORSCHE OFFICIAL AND OUT

bdsm hedgehog

jealous porsche hehehe

kim the investigator is staring at his crime collage again

why is porsche SLAPPING THE WATER while doing freestyle

cute brother moment makes me tear up

Pete tries to escape towards water????

soft kinnporsche moments to feed my soul

TIMETAY MY LOVES I MISSED YOU

Queen Yok is my favorite ever

what is the significance of Childhood's End i need analyses

Tankhun adopting Chay immediately

Vegas finally learns aftercare and Pete reads him to filth

Kim stop breaking the boy's heart i swear to god

honneyyymooooonnnnn phaaasseee

why is this vegaspete scene kinda funny O.o

what is the helicopter version of the mile high club? asking for a friend

Kim the investigator investigates an alzheimer's patient who is not actually an alzheimer's patient and finds out his dad is behind things (and everyone is very shocked)

#kinnporsche #kinnporsche la forte #kinn porsche #ep11 #kp ep 11 #onlyasgoodasitgets #kp spoilers #spoilers #my thoughts #kinn #porsche #kim #chay #tankhun #vegas #pete #timetay

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teodorable · 2 years

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Why can't some villains just be villains in the story? Why do they always have to have some sob story that's supposed to justify their actions and make me feel sorry for them??

Vegas kidnapped Pete, assaulted him in all the ways, but oh no poor baby his father doesn't like him.

I can fully understand what Vegas' father's shit does to him, but don't try to give me that as an excuse for what he's doing to Pete, just let him be a bad person.

#kinnporsche #kinnporsche the series #vegaspete #kp ep 11 #this is probably an unpopular opinion but idc

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freensrcha · 2 years

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"And are you hurt ?" "I am hurt. But I don't know why it's not as bad as before."

#kinnporsche #kinnporsche the series #kp ep 11 #vegaspete #I MAY HAVE SCREAMED VERY BAD #OH MY MY MY #what have we got here: bonding over shitty parents is it ?#111gif #today was ultimately shitty cause my downloader crashed 88% into the download #and i had to download again and this time the subs are so oddly timed 😭

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summersoldier-barnes · 2 years

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take breaks if you need to, folks. there's a LOt of extremely intense scenes and it's okay if you need breathers or just need to skip the entire parts.

#kinnporsche the series #kp ep 11

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kinnspocketporsche · 2 years

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I know this was The Conversation but I don't think we would've had it if not for their previous talk.

If it wasn't for Pete saying "I'm not eating I'm not fighting you" and "I'm not choosing to be abused" and "I don't like it, I'm not hungry I won't let you blame me for a fight I don't want to have. My actions are not defiance, they're just actions" and all of his other double-sided statements

If it wasn't for him backing those words with actions: escaping without a weapon and yelling/thrashing around/physically objecting to his abuse

If Pete had brought up his own father before that, we would've had this Vegas:

"Only the fool thinks honesty is real."

Instead, even before The Conversation, we see Vegas gently cradling Pete.

Even before he thought Pete died, Vegas was starting to care. He was starting to catch on to the fact that Pete had been giving him the answer to the question Vegas asked his father:

Pete has been showing him, as a survivor of abuse, what he can do. Vegas has been seeing 2 choices: succeed and be rewarded, or fail and be punished. The same 2 choices he offered Pete. Pete found - and is giving Vegas - a third possibility: the truth. The truth that Vegas didn't choose to be raised by an abusive father. The truth that Vegas can't win if he fights. Vegas might not have the option to remove himself, but he can choose to see that the fight has been rigged against him the whole time.

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As per usual, my inbox and messages are always open for more KP talk :) This scene - the whole show - has me in a chokehold.

VegasPete Communication + Double Meanings Post

Metaphor Done Right: Childhood’s End in KinnPorsche

Pete’s Escape as a Final Test

#vegaspete #vegas x pete #vegas theerapanyakul #pete saengtham #kinnporsche episode 11 #kp ep 11 #kinnporche the series #kinnporsche meta #kinnporsche #kp meta #kinnporsche analysis #kinn porsche the series #bible sumettikul #biblebuild #build jakapan #winnie's words

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pastelcheckereddreams · 9 months

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"I don't want to go to the safehouse alone. Guess I'll bring a pet to keep me company."

Are you surprised? Really, are you surprised?? This won't be a full series, I just wanted to do something for the kprewatch event and set maps are what I do best 🤷‍♀️ Especially because it involves watching the same episodes again and again very, very closely and going insane, which seems appropriate for all the brainrot VegasPete have caused me. The complete design:

Silly little observations below the cut, but also have this diagram that illustrates where all the scenes take place relative to the aerial shot from episode 11:

If you'd be interested in prints, let me know! I may end up having a crack at a more substantial safehouse piece. A front elevation view would be so interesting to put together.

Reblogs are encouraged, reposts are not. This piece is now crossposted to my instagram account here. Check out my cdrama set maps and other art at the links/socials below: The Untamed (ongoing): The Jingshi | The Hanshi | Lotus Pier Word of Honor: Four Seasons Manor (in progress) instagram | kofi | inprnt

A small note on my design choices/silly little observations: 1) The room where Pete is kept appears to be smaller and squarer than it is in the aerial shot. I'm guessing it's to accommodate the mood lighting and to give the room a more claustrophobic/cage-like feel. I've attempted to depict that empty space above relative to the dimensions of the birdseye view.

2) I'm not entirely sure there actually is a bit of a bump-out for the unseen room that makes up part of the main living space, but the apparent interior corner in the far right of this shot makes me think there might be:

3) There's fresh herbs growing in a planter by the fridge and I think we should all think about Vegas planting them and watering them and cooking with them:

4) There is one single shot of the bedroom where there might (a big might) be an armchair next to the bed at one point and I ran with it for personal headcanon reasons:

5) What is in this mystery room at the back of this shot?? There seems to be a welcome mat or something put down? Is that the true entryway?? A bathroom? A utility room? I don't know nearly enough about vernacular Thai architecture to make an accurate guess:

Anddd that's it, that's about all I've got for this blorbo house! As always, thank you for your support 🙏Feel free to yell about this location in the tags, I'd love to hear your thoughts and maybe improve my design.

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