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robinsbanduniform · 1 year
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if mike wheeler is straight how come his most emotional, intimate, honest, and vulnerable scenes are all with his best friend who is canonically in love with him????
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turningsoft · 3 months
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as a gay mike truther, i promise you him being bi wouldn't automatically reduce him to solely being someone's boyfriend. i promise you his struggles with heteronormativity, sexuality and identity would still be very real and very valid
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robynrocksforbrains · 11 months
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Rewatching the show from start to finish. Has anyone talked about the way Karen looks at Ted after Mike says "I'm the only one acting normal here. I'm the only one that cares about Will."
Like yeah, it is a look of disdain. We know Karen is not fond of Ted. But there's something more to this look.
She looks at him like she's assessing a threat. Like what Mike said could've crossed a line for Ted and she might have to defend/protect Mike. Like she's trying to figure out if he picked up on what she's been picking up on, and if so, how she's gonna do damage control. If her reaction here wasn't important, what was the point of showing it? This doesn't happen in the background, they made a point to focus on her.
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Slow motion replay:
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This combined with what she says about how she doesn't want Mike to feel like he has to hide anything from her... Makes me believe even more that she knows, or at least suspects, that Mike could have feelings for Will.
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howtobecomeadragon · 2 years
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Inspired by this post by @renaissancemeetsworld, thanks for the emotional devastation!!!
S1:
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Mike does what makes him happy without shame, with his friends that he loves. Both times he plays D&D, Will is there.
S2:
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Losing toys is a punishment for not behaving correctly. Thus a conundrum: behave correctly according to parents or lose toys? Or try to behave correctly and also act like you're not interested in toys because it's clear now that your parents look down on you for playing with them still?
S3:
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Mike tries to behave correctly, dating a girl. He still tries to be silly, but he gets more messaging that who he is isn't right, it's wrong and embarrassing.
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And so he shoves it down. Both sides. He acts more straight and acts like he thinks D&D is childish.
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Until he loses Will.
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Around El he reverts to shame about liking toys and that is linked to his shame about his sexuality. The story has intertwined those two ideas so closely. Toys and boys. Mike likes both, but he's being told he shouldn't like either.
S4:
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Mike is "being more rebellious," doing what makes him happy even if his parents disapprove. He's still playing with toys, playing D&D, and it's the happiest we've seen him in ages. He's still working on the fact that what his parents think is appropriate for his behavior isn't always what's best for him though, and he doesn't get that yet. He is still with a person that he can't play D&D or sing with. He's still missing part of this puzzle of growing up and figuring out for himself who he is and what he wants and if he's going to let other's opinions get in the way of that.
S5: To complete this arc, Mike will figure out that life doesn't have to be a lose-lose situation. He can win. He can be himself, do things that make him happy and be with the person that makes him happy. He can be with Will and play D&D and Nintendo for the rest of his life because that's what makes him happy. He can like toys and boys, and that's okay!
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fruitybowl · 2 months
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How can you see the way Mike looks at Will and not think the guy is down bad
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Like bro is MESMERIZED
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thevoidspeakz · 2 years
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I still cannot get over Mike actually differentiating his relationship with all his friends, vs his reationship with Will. Like seriously.
He named every single one of his friends, "Max and Dustin and Lucas," and then said it's different when it comes to you. You're so special to me, and I miss you. Home doesn't feel like home anymore because you're not there.
can i die
(since this post is getting attention can y'all go look at my actual content please lmaoo)
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bylerspookie · 8 months
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it's actually canon that Mike didn't fall in love with El at first sight fight me
firstly, that's just terrible writing. many writers, including the Duffers, have literally made fun of this trope.
remember Eden and Argyle??? THEY WERE LITERALLY MAKING FUN OF THE TROPE.
and they have Mike, right behind them, looking disgusted. in fact, that entire scene is queercoding for Mike but that's another story...
remember this?:
Mike, watching Lucas and Mike crush on Max:
Dustin/Lucas: She's awesome.
Mike: Awesome?? You haven't even spoken a word to her.
Mike, talking to Max:
Max: Why do you hate me so much?
Mike: Hate you? How can I hate you? I don't even know you.
REALLY GUYS??
you're all stupid if you think Mike's monologue was truthful and made to destroy Byler, it was literally made to destroy Mileven, why do you think El was ignoring Mike afterwards???
it goes down to the fact that Mike said I love you to El 9 times (9 represents failure in st), the fact that he talks about what she wears (it's a direct quote from Eddie), the fact that Eleven looks hurt when he says it, the fact that she loses (and Vecna just??? let it happen?? he knew it was gonna cause failure), the lights were flickering in a way of anger, not of love (we see how the lights look when she channels love vs when she channels anger), the fact that Will was right behind him in frame and literally had to rub his back and call him pets names in order for Mike to say it even though El was literally dying, the fact that Mike had to brace himself, the fact that "You're the heart" and "you're different" line up perfectly, the fact that he-
IF I GO ON I WON'T BE ABLE TO STOP.
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booksandpaperss · 2 years
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Saw this gay alignment chart (lmao) going around with the Nancy&Co fruity four, and I couldn’t resist doing my own version with the OG fruity four bc it fit them too well not to 😌
Anyways it feels so good to be so right 💅
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gayofthefae · 28 days
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If there is one thing we know about Mike Wheeler it is that he would do nothing to jeopardize his friendship with Will Byers. By no selfish means would he risked harming that relationship. Which means that when he behaved the way he did in season 4 episode 2...his intention was to preserve the relationship.
Mike Wheeler held the belief that if he let his guard down and behaved how he was naturally inclined to, their relationship would be damaged or at the very least, it would make Will uncomfortable.
Now why would that be? What level of acting "too close" to Will would risk such a thing? What is he afraid he might do?
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! Not L7cas S9nclair !
Spoilers for both F.R.I.E.N.D.S and Stranger Things!
Ok but. I was watching F•R•I•E•N•D•S with my family earlier this day, and something notable came up during the episode.
Does this scene remind you of anything, dear reader scrolling through the byler/stranger things tag?
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This scene.
For context, the guy on the left is Ross; about to marry Emily, the woman on the left. The one behind them is Rachel, who is in love with Ross.
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...yeah.
At first, it seems both Will and Rachel are supposed to accept that the one they're in love with is not with them; and both of them do try to commence with it for a bit.
Now, there is interesting context to be added.
Ross is in love with Rachel. He was since he was a kid. However, they never seemed to work out, going through random drama I'm too tired to explain, and later he ALSO fell in love with Emily, while away from Rachel, choosing to later marry her. But then he sees Rachel again just before his wedding, and during the wedding ceremony, he accidentally says Rachel's name instead of Emily's, causing and inflicting drama, and making Rachel realize he still loves her.
Rachel and Ross get together for good, after ten seasons of will-they-wont-they.
And so - if me imagine Ross as Mike, Rachel as Will, and Emily as El...
Who do y'all think is getting together?
I'm not sure if FRIENDS is on Stranger Things inspiration board or not, this could've been a pureeeeeee coincidence, so let me know if this is the case.
There are much, much stronger arguments for Byler - but I just wanted to make this post as a small thing to notice on the way.
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budstiel · 11 months
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you’re all thinking about how mike very literally physically overcame the distance he had put between himself and Will through the length of season 4 right? WE’RE ALL THINKING IT RIGHT? IT ISNT JUST ME?
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byler-is-endgame7 · 1 year
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on the very few times that will and mike actually did get to call each other, mike would always end the call by saying “love you” on accident and they would both just sit there in silence for a good few minutes until mike awkwardly apologizes and will says that it’s fine and they would end the call with them both still believing their love is unrequited
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hessolivagant · 1 year
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Mikes expressions explained, lets go!!!
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“the painting was for me not for a girl, don’t know what i was so worried about. :)” this part of the scene is so cute, there’s just pure joy on this mans face. Throughout the seasons we can tell that mike is a fan of wills art, mike also likes gifts stated in s3 last episode.
Will: “well, el commissioned it”
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“What lol”
After will says this and continues his coded rant about “el” needing mike, mikes face drops from his very happy expression and mike seems conflicted and confused. He was told by el that she doesn’t know what will is painting and that it’s probably for some girl he has a crush on. Literally the whole fight in rinko mania was just mike being jealous and mad thinking that will is pushing away from him.
Literally at the airport he looks down, which i think is him seeing the painting and immediately being like “wtf why did he bring the painting he’s making for his crush”
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Mike knows that the painting could be for a crush so during the van scene we get THIS
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THE HEART EYES HELLO?? Mike knows more then what we’re thinking, I’m always seeing people say that he’s braindead(he is) but i want to bring up a Byler theory and it’s that a lot of the byler scenes we see are in wills point of view. Because at the end of their conversation, will pulls away from the conversation, ending it, we see mike blurred out and he looks back at will. We can’t see mikes expression, but during that part i was thinking that he was still confused, probably trying to make sense of the conflicting information he’s being given
“but el doesn’t know what he was painting what, why would el lie about not knowing something? El isn’t pushing me away either? What is happening? Is will lying???”
Mike has probably caught onto the fact that will is lying about something because of this facial expression !!
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This is the face he made after will slips up a bit about the “party” he takes a sharp inhale, indicating that he’s nervous. Why are you nervous mike huh? Would you like to share for the whole class mike?
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He then looks away and looks back at the painting that is most definitely “commissioned” by “el”, and he seems confused again. El doesn’t play dnd so why would she commission a dnd painting for mike, she’s not even in the painting😭
Mike is definitely picking something up, and after this conflicted look on his face we just see mike looking at will, barely looking away. While will is literally confessing to him through els name, he gives will two lip stares. Why mike?
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We all know mike wants to kiss will, why is his body language so???? Finn wolfhard really wanted to make it obvious that mike is not straight because the facial acting tells me a whole different story. Mike is not in love with el, he loves will.
Bonus, mike being flustered about will touching his hand.
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The photo doesn’t really show much but if you watch the van scene and look at his expression. He’s definitely nervous/flustered.
So yeah, either mike is gay or written poorly. Either way, byler endgame💙💛
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robynrocksforbrains · 11 months
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I'm about to ramble like I've never rambled before.
Season five is going to have the most well executed displays of affection and romantic moments not only because byler will be happening but also because this show has always been about LOVE. Love has been constant throughout the entire show. It's always been about love saving the day. Which is why we see what happens when love is unwavering. When it's hidden. When it's suppressed. We see the consequences of believing there is a "right way" to love. We see the consequences of performing love. And we see the rewards of just loving. No matter what other people say. No matter if people think you're crazy. If you love someone you fight for them even when everyone tells you it's wrong. Or that you shouldn't. Or that you should give up.
That is most prevalent in season one and two.
In season one the whole town thinks Joyce is crazy. But she says it herself "Maybe I'm crazy! Maybe I'm out of my mind! But god help me I will keep these lights up until the day I die if I think there's a chance that Will is still out there!" Jonathan and Nancy team up to kill the demogorgon because they love Will and Barb respectively. Mike, Lucas, and Dustin continue to search for Will even when it will get them in trouble. Even when it's dangerous. Even when everyone believes he's dead. They keep searching and they keep fighting because they love him.
In season two Joyce, Jonathan, and Mike do not stop trying to reach Will. Even when he appears to be gone, they keep reaching. And once they reach him they keep holding on. And even when Will tells them to close the gate, likely knowing it will kill him, they don't accept that. Joyce finds a way. Mike, Lucas, Dustin, Max, and Steve find a way to give El and Hopper a fighting chance. All of their actions are fueled by unwavering love and loyalty for each other.
This show has always been about love. It has been the lifeblood of the entire series. It has been a constant, so much so that you almost become blind to it. Because unwavering love is the baseline, you don't really notice it until something changes. That's what seasons three and four did. They made us notice that the baseline existed in the first place. We started to see fluctuations.
In season three, Mike and El are constantly off in their own little world, they aren't considerate of their friends. Will is feeling completely and totally isolated and like the group is falling apart. Dustin is separated from them for the entire season. Will says it best in the rain fight "where's Dustin? See you don't know and you don't even care! And obviously he doesn't either and I don't blame him!". The Party has their good moments in season three, but gone is the shameless love and unwavering support that they once offered each other. Lucas and Mike leave Will out and make fun of him. Which is so unlike them. None of them actually believe Suzie exists, and they humor Dustin in a condescending manner. Dustin isn't an idiot, he knew that they were being condescending. But he chose to give them the benefit of the doubt and tolerate them because it was so unusual for them to be so mean to each other. In conclusion, season three shows us the consequence of the loss of that unwavering and unselfish love.
(color code for this point on: genuine love / performance / something that is not loving)
In season four, there is even more fluctuating. The season starts off with El lying in her letter to Mike. Ending a letter of lies with "Love, El". Which is an interesting juxtaposition to the concept of "true love". Will's feelings are spotlighted by the mention of the painting and the "girl" he might like. Mike and Dustin are not supportive of Lucas, and they are not there to celebrate his accomplishments. Will is supportive of El and tries to comfort her in the face of her "failures". (Not that I think her class presentation was a failure, she did amazing. But she felt like she had failed.) Lucas continues to reach out to Max and pay attention to her even when she continuously pushes him away; even when she's mean. We see Mike and El putting on fake smiles, it's clear that they can't be themselves in this relationship. They're once again ignoring Will. Mike and Will fight again. Mike and El have their fight about Mike's inability to say "I love you" and about how he makes El feel like a monster. Joyce and Murray go to FUCKING RUSSIA to save Hopper. Mike and Will begin to patch up their relationship. Will gives Mike the painting and along with it his veiled love confession. And although it's hidden behind a flimsy lie, it is such a beautiful act of love. Because the lie is not selfish. He's lying because he believes it is what's best for Mike, not himself. He hands over his heart on a silver platter for Mike and tells him that it's someone else's because he believes that's what Mike needs. Although it is dishonest, it is closer to the concept of "true love" than El's letter from the beginning of the season. (Not a lot of consistency. Well, there's consistent inconsistency. This season is so far from the baseline)
And then we have Mike's monologue. Mike's monologue that brings the concept of "love saves the day" to front and center stage. And for the first time we see them completely and utterly lose.
(I'd like to say that I hate the way people say that the deaths in season 4 are Mike's fault because of the monologue. They are not his fault, he is 14 oh my god please stop putting that on him. But the loss is crucial to understanding why that baseline I was talking about is so important.)
In the first two seasons, when we were at this "baseline", the show never told us that love was going to save the day. It didn't have to tell us. It was obvious, but not in a dramatic and cheesy way. The monologue is dramatic and cheesy. It uses romance tropes that no one actually likes. It doesn't line up with any of Mike's behavior throughout the entire show. This is the first time that the show states over and over again "love is going to save the day". It's this big dramatic moment that falls flat on its face because we have never needed them to tell us this before. So why are they telling us now?
"Forced conforming. That's what's killing the kids."
For the first time, stranger things conforms to the usual dramatics of the "love saves the day" trope. And a kid literally dies.
In season one, when they find Will in the UD, we know what has led to this moment. We know that Joyce has fought her way to this moment fueled by nothing but unwavering love and an unyielding belief that her son was out there. That he was alive. Then they find him dead. But Joyce and Hopper fought for Will for that entire week, why would they stop fighting now. So Hopper starts cpr, and it's an intense moment. But it's not dramatic. It's just real, and raw. It's a mother desperately begging her son to come back to her. And Will lives.
Compare that to the dramatics of the monologue while Max is being murdered? It doesn't take a genius to figure out what happened there.
El brings Max back in a quiet moment. She finds her resolve and she says "No. You're not going." And this moment feels similar to when Will was resuscitated. Lucas is sobbing and desperate for someone to help. And El helps. That moment is not a performance. No one is there to see what she does. That moment is an act of true love. It's not fueled by a dramatic monologue. It's just love. For this one moment, we come back to the baseline.
Season four was about the performance of love. And conforming to the "right way" to love. That is why they failed.
I believe that season five will see the return to this baseline that I talked about. For all the types of love we see in the show, but the one I'm focused on is romantic love. (This is not me saying that romantic love is more important, it's just the one I'm thinking about the most right now)
Because not only has the show always been about love, it's also always been about Will. It started with him; it started with the group's love for him. If love is the lifeblood of the show, Will is the heart and soul of the show. And now there has been so much attention drawn to Will's romantic love for Mike, and his desire to be loved in that same way. He is so so sad because he believes that this form of love just isn't for him. His love being requited is a satisfying ending to his arc, but is also the perfect opportunity to bring the show back to its "baseline". Will's arc concluding with his love being requited is the perfect way to drive home the message they've been sending this entire time. The heart of the show deserves to receive the love it has inspired.
Will has loved Mike. Mike has loved Will. They don't need a big dramatic confession. They just need to be honest with themselves and honest with each other. True love.
This was just a ramble so I don't really have a conclusion and I don't know if anyone will understand what I'm trying to say. But this is an aspect of the show that I absolutely adore and I am so passionate about it and I just had to talk about it.
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howtobecomeadragon · 2 years
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Mike tries figuring out his feelings while the word "boy" is literally passing by behind him.
No wonder this scene took all day to film.
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Credit to @dinitride-art for pointing out the word "boy" splashed all over this scene from the Surfer Boy logo! See a ton more of this in part 14 of their lighting analysis here!!!
Edit: just made an additional post here going over all the times the "boy" shadow is visible in this scene!
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fruitybowl · 3 months
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People fight over whether Mike is gay or bi mean while my personal favorite headcanon is something I don't think many people have considered:
Unlabeled Mike
It's my personal headcanon that Mike wouldn't care about labeling himself. All he knows is that he likes Will and doesn't care about anything else. He doesn't know what he is and he's okay with that. As long as he gets to love Will nothing else matters.
All other headcanons are great and valid I was just sharing my own perspective. I love both the bi and gay Mike headcanons, but I can't choose between the two which is one of the reasons I'm sticking with unlabeled Mike for now. In the end I don't think it really matters what Mike is since I don't feel the show is going to explicitly say what he is. As long as he's a boy kisser nothing else matters 👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨
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