#okay so woman means one right

[deconstructthesoup]

The parallel of Simon forgetting Betty as a result of going mad and Betty going mad as a result of not being able to forget Simon and yet both of their insanity manifests in an inherent obsession with the other will continue to make me lie awake at night

#simon as the ice king still desperately searches for his princess to the point of being obsessed with the one who resembles betty the most #he can't even remember that bonnie is his daughter's ex because she's smart and she's kind and she's logic-driven and that's so familiar to #betty as magic woman has her devotion to simon turned up to the point where she doesn't seem to care about anyone other than him #she'll destroy the world if it means that simon will be okay and safe and with her again #our clues that the relationship was always gonna be doomed were there right from the start weren't they #simon petrikov #betty grof #petrigrof #adventure time #fionna and cake #adventure time fionna and cake

[swinging-stars-from-satellites]

I just had a whole actual married, mother of two adult woman be the first person older than about 21 to actually accept the fact that I don't want to get married and be willing to talk through what that means for me, instead of trying to convince me that I'll change my mind as I get older. I'm going to fucking cry

#I told her I'm lonely and why. and I told her that part of it is because I never want to get married #and so as the people I love move on to new seasons in their life I will always be left behind. because I don't ever want marriage #and she was just like ''okay. that just means you have to figure out what YOUR milestones are going to be #because that's going to look different than most of the people around you.'' #I've never had an adult woman. especially not a church one. just accept it before #it's always been ''ok but everyone feels that way at your age [a blatant lie. most of the people I knew in high school #got married RIGHT out of high school] you'll feel differently in a few years'' #or ''well don't shut yourself off from the possibilities!'' or ''oh but you'll meet The One'' #so it's like. earthshattering for someone like this to just accept that I know my own heart in it and help me figure out what that means #for the future #like. I'm going to cry. I'm literally in tears. #Lu rambles #sorry for swearing. it's for emphasis. I'm very emotional rn

[aeide-thea]

#don't ask me how i ended up here ('was it a fic‚ K?' 'yes‚ obviously it was a fic.') but #this poem somehow makes me think of plath's 'black rook in rainy weather' #not because the poems are at all similar but because it's that feeling of a dull ruinous landscape suddenly illuminated #like. the sestet here is SO workmanlike and wearisome #yesterday. grey. eyes. wise. 'one that is ever kind' right okay you're making up the syllable count. etc etc #and then—'the fire that stirs about her‚ when she stirs‚ / burns but more clearly.' #'o she had not these ways / when all the wild summer was in her gaze.' #like. my god. #the sudden wild white beating of swan's wings. the lift of my battered enraptured heart. #anyway. 'did you know famous poet william butler yeats had his moments‚ actually??' you heard it here extremely not first. #(i mean. that said—imagine writing a poem that ascribed any qualities to a woman you couldn't reassign to a horse.) #(like. billy boy. do you love anything about her but her beauty and her ~spirit~. is she intelligent. is she funny. is she fiercely moral.) #(ah well.) #poetry #w.b. yeats

[mishtershpock]

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#not to sound like a broken record #i know this has already been talked about a lot in current fandom discourse #but all the tommy love also comes from a place of #misogyny (buck’s m/f relationships failed bc the women weren’t good enough. but his first m/m is perfect and destined and tommy is god) #(even though we know next to nothing about them as a couple. cough 1 kiss and 1 failed date cough cough) #and biphobic concepts (buck’s only relationship/partner that is worth shipping and love and fandom time is the m/m one) #(if he’s with a woman he’s not worth our time? the relationship/partner isn’t worth our time. right?) #some people kinda sounding like the conservative haters right now #oliver stark’s voice shouting from afar: he isn’t gay! he is bisexual! he still likes women! #some people like to celebrate bi buck (as we should) but then erase his previous gfs #in favour of this 1 man he’s shared literally 4 scenes with. okay #<- <- <- i drafted this like 6 hours before that interview came out. ollie came to back me up with the ‘he still likes women’ lmao #him dating a guy now does not erase or dismiss his previous m/f relationships or that he’s still into women #one final comment. any time buck got with a girl it was ‘they need to break up immediately’ #‘she’s not right for him’ #he’s with his first guy and it’s ’they should be endgame’ #‘they’re perfect together’ #huh?? one. we barely know tommy/them together #two. what exactly makes them endgame material? bc they’re both men? cough biphobic misogyny fetishization cough #three. it would be objectively hilarious if he realises his sexuality and within 2 weeks is dating a guy for the first time #and then that guy ends up being his endgame forever partner. lmaoooo that would be so dumb sawry #not to mention it would kinda lean into the biphobia and misogyny mentioned above #in that it would suggest that his problem with finding love previously was… women #and this problem is now magically fixed because… man #four. not to be a buddie endgame truther but if all the vocal support means this is what we get instead #instead of Them. i’m out see ya bye bye #i am sooooo reading way too much into this but oh well

[running-in-the-dark]

oooh. there's a trans woman in this Night Court episode and I'm scared.

#they do the 'man in a dress' joke literally all the time. that's already bad enough #but. so far they've handled similar topics really well (at least for it being the 80s) sooo... maybe it'll be okay? 😬 I'm still scared tho #and of course it's a Dan episode because he's the horrible shitty one. #oh god please don't be a horrible episode please I can't handle that right now 🙃 #night court #she has beaten Dan up. I love her. she's great. and they are showing him clearly in the wrong. so... pretty good so far #(but of course 'haha he got hit by a woman'... I mean. yeah but. you don't have to be misogynistic about it...) #oh Dan is the absolute worst and I don't mean it in a nice way this time 😔

[dishsaop]

does anyone have recommendations for fictional media that has like. actual lesbians in it. not like supergirl Two White Skinny Girls, One Blonde and One Brunette Kiss media, or "its implied lesbianism!!!" but just regular fucking lesbians

#i say lesbians but i guess i mean sapphic #im just like. tired of gnawing #and of men also. sorry men in my life i love you but on god if i have to pretend one more man is butch just to get #content that isnt m/m or m/f im going to turn into a horse and run into the wilderness until im saved from the glue factory by a plucky #young woman except instead of letting her have her formative summer where she trains me and bonds w me and wins a competition w me #im going to commit horse suicide in front of her & change her life forever. just because im so tired of bland CW-marketable women kissing & #digging for scraps in a refuse bin while brushing aside 7002993829292929939292929399394 gay and het romances #m text #i will also take nonfictional lesbians if its like a story #not to be whiny on main but one of the hardest hurdles i had to jump wasnt realizing i was a lesbian. i came out to myself and to friends a #lesbian multiple times. but i would always walk it back when a friend would express doubt or a male friend would ask me out #bc i dont and especially then didnt know very many lesbians in person. and so i had to turn to examples #and all i fucking had were fictional women who liked men. or fictional lesbians who were so cleaned and sanitized and prettified #(you all know what i mean right. the 2 skinny white girls one blonde one brunette. im not crazy right) #and i would be like. i dont feel things when i look at these fictional lesbians so i guess i belong back here #(this is also bc my gender ended up being fuckier than i realized but shhhhh) #I WAS GOING SOMEWHERE WITH THESE TAGS but theyre too long and im lost. #anyway the point is if people werent so fucking weird abt fictional or onscreen lesbians maybe thered be a lot more people comfortable bein #out as lesbian #like sorry but this awful ouroboros of 'all lesbians onscreen have to be cute and sanitized' meaning that people write and believe wlw has #to be cute and pure and sanitized (OR a 'badge of honor' bc good for u u doodled two women together or had it as a background in ur fic) #meaning that therefore all portrayals of lesbianism continue to be like this. is just #and im also gonna be honest theres probably a lot of good sapphic media im just in the wrong circles to have stumbled into lol. so #yknow. personal viewer bias here #but i still like swing wildly between overly brandishing my dykeness as a badge to feel like im proving im lesbian #and like. backing up under a blanket bc i dont wanna be weird or annoying or freak people out #but if people just Saw Normal Ass Lesbians. aough. #im going to watch revolutionary girl utena one of these days even if i struggled w the writing style the first few episodes #I JUST WANNA SEE AN OLD BUTCH ONSCREEN GET SOME PUSSY. #like it also doesnt help im mostly femme4butch so seeing 2 femmes on screen is like. okay cool so what. but only femmes are 'marketable'

[senseiwu]

The REAL "theydeservedbetter"shipping

#in WHAT WORLD does THAT MAN deserve 'better' than misako? #shes the one that deserved better LMAO? #why would koko leave her husband but be okay with him when hes done WORSE #this ship and the goddamn NAME make me so bloody angry #he didnt deserve her sorry #he didnt treat her right #like. have you HEARD the things shes said about him??? maam are you OKAY??? #'i was married to him once im up for anything' MAAM WHAT RHE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN #not to mention. 'i wont let you get away from me again misako' 🤢 #the hate for this poor woman is INSANE. #if anyone in that relationship deserved better. it was her. #and dont try and come at me calling me a hypocrite or anything. that mans name isnt mentioned. nothing here is tagged. THAT is my problem. #when people TAG NEGATIVE POSTS WITH THE MAIN TAGS #what is WRONG WITH YOU

[itspileofgoodthings]

Matthew MacFayden’s Darcy is a fascinating thing to unpack because I don’t believe it succeeds as a performance of Darcy or even as a performance in general (it kind of can't) but there are layers to it and it's not simple.

#the layers are: he’s a good actor. it’s a bad script. #okay simple enough but then it’s a bad script with several lines ripped directly FROM ONE OF THE GREATEST NOVELISTS OF ALL TIME #and so for a second he’s a good actor saying a great line and tbh it works in flashes #LOVE when he asks Caroline if he can defer her raptures til his next letter #Darcy dryness IN THE ROOM WITH US FOR A MOMENT #but then he’s also forced to stand up too quick and say ‘she’s upstairs’ in response to Lizzy asking about Jane #And it’s just. Giving Blurting? And I know he’s supposed to be flustered but it’s so not Darcy so it’s ooc and also jarring #and then there's his terrible haircut and the ill-fitting clothes and the strange blocking and direction #which add their own layers of bad #but then he ISN'T a bad actor and he's not not responding to Keira's beauty #there are moments where it's like.... yeah! that's a man who knows how to look at a woman! #he is not not connected to her. i know what people mean when they say they feel it #there's an energy! some glances! some warmth! #but then there's the thing where it's like. a) i don't think that he's the right choice for Darcy even in a better script #b) the script doesn't understand and has no interest in Darcy's true character and goes for the shy puppy/awkward/tumblr take on him #so both of those things are happening at once!!!!!!!! #and yeah it's just kind of so emblematic of the movie as a whole #not all the ingredients are bad but they are not well utilized at all #and also sometimes they are the wrong (good) ingredient #anyway do not mean to hurt any feelings or start any discourse i just am always trying to explain this to myself #and i don't think i've ever come so close tbh!!!!! #this was in my drafts from last night so i thought i would share it now #because I've always felt how much is wrong and how much is wrong as an Austen adaptation and yet there are glances #(that one gifset of them at Pemberley where they're talking about her playing and he's like 'no i said quite well') #(and she smiles and then he smiles and the light is golden and it's !!!!!) #but then there are moments that don't even work by that isolated measure!!!! #that just feel so weird and wrong!!!!! again. even by a sentimental measure #maybe even ESPECIALLY by a sentimental measure #so i'm always trying to unpack it more clearly (joe wright the clear villain being one takeaway) thank you for listening etc. more at 11. #2005 liveblog

[star-mum]

Okay OP nation I have some (maybe controversial) statements about the Straw Hats and I need y’all to listEN FIRST OKAY- HEAR ME OUT

Boyfriend: Zoro and Franky

Husband: Usopp and Sanji

Girlfriend: Nami

Wife: Robin

Luffy: Aroace king

#DO YOU SEE THE VISION ???? #like I am a Certified Zoro Girlie but thats not a husband... he has Boyfriend written all over him #I cant call him husband in my head - ‘oh that’s my Husband Zoro’ - ew no - 'thats my BOYFRIEND Zoro' - yes ! #Franky is just cool and sensitive like that -> the boyfren to defeat all boyfrends -> i'd fall hard and fast -> like embarrassingly so #SANJI OH MY GOD !!! THE FIRST MAN WHO DARED TO MALEWIFE #and of course anime he has a couple red flags but I always put those on ‘annoying anime trope’ rather than accepting thats a part of him (C #(OPLA IS HERE TO PROVE THAT) shit like in canon they kinda set him up as this totally uncool Wannabe Casanova (which he is !!) #but he’s also just effortlessly charming ???? me at 7 y/o watching his intro for the very first time ??? a goner !!! -> me at 20 yo watchin #GOD !! USOPP !! THE MAN ! THE KING ! THE LEGEND -> I have ALWAYS been an Usopp girlie -> cause im always right and i love to win #y’all gonna give a pathetic cowardly little man with huge dreams and an even bigger heart who ALWAYS stands up for whats right #DESPITE BEING SCARED ???? I’m in the chapel baby lets do this 👰🏻 -> also his tiddies are always out ??? DUNGAREES WITH NO SHIRT !! WHATS NO #risking his life fighting an incredibly powerful and scary pirate for an entire village who didn’t treat him fairly and DIDNT BELIEVE HIM #him going to a place he was Not Welcomed and constantly mistreated at only to tell a DYING girl incredibly fun stories and keep her company #cause he saw his mom go through the same thing as a kid ? -> i love him yall 🥺 #NAMI !!! thats Girlfriend with a capital G -> shes pretty greedy and a little bit (very) mean -> i love her sm i want her to rule my life #RO !! BIN !! the crush I have on that woman is honestly embarrassing -> she is THE wife -> do not be mistaken #i dont really see Luffy wanting a romantic relationship but that’s not gonna stop me from reading fanfic about him ; p #i had to edit this and glue some tags together so they'd all fit -> thats why theres so many arrows -> I have Thoughts okay -> let me live #one piece #opla #one piece live action #straw hats

[fitzrove]

tag rambles

#sjjflsldk idk if this is weird to share on a public blog.......... #thinking about how [redacted favourite actor] said that for a long time he despised femininity [because of trans bg] #and reflecting on how long it took for me to realise that just because i'm not attracted to or 'available to' men doesnt mean i should #express scorn or distaste for masculinity #like!!!!! okay. You can actually really see this in how people talk about M*rk Seibert's Tod!!! #like... a lot of ppl (a lot of queer women) are like 'ew he's so macho hetero' when... he's not macho any more than máté is #and saying that his masculinity makes him bad or saying that it makes him het can be so hurtful #i joke about how gay men love marktod but like its just a fact lol a lot of gay men love marktod #(including biebz and his opinion as og rudolf is one of the most importantest /hj) #but like!!!!!!! consider that not all portrayals of a role are FOR YOU. but they can be very important to someone else #jakskskd idk i certainly don't intend to shame anyone #but during the past year i've definitely come a long way from internalizing the 'ew het tod' discourse #to being a staunch marktod defender oansöakdkd #idk it's just like. you can be not attracted to men without going on about how men are gross and bad lol #i know i prefer other tods (i'd really prefer woman tod tbh) but i will die on the hill of marktod rights

[themyscirah]

Was about to say that Diana should quit the Justice League but then I realized that may be an insane statement with T*m K*ng around so like in MY ideal world where she has an amazing writer that will do really interesting stories with this Diana should quit the League 👍

(Pretend we have a JL ongoing for this post okay guys)

#blah #diana of themyscira #is this a controversial statement??? idk. i mean it either way so like 🤷‍♀️ #wonder woman #dc comics #anti tom king #justice league diana i hate you so much we need to take a break #its not you but like it totally is you 😁👍 #is she even on the league rn actually?? is there even a justice league BOOK right now??? i have heard 0 mentions but no way they wouldnt- #lemme check smth real quick #DO WE SERIOUSLY NOT HAVE A JL BOOK RIGHT NOW?? #wait okay theres the godzilla one so thats something #ive got to make some memes about this rq though thats amazing jl i fucking hate you #its just never interesting or meaningful lets be real #wow okay

[persephoneflouwers]

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#i had to read with my two eyeballs the words: #‘I dont understand why people are so upset about it’ #the thing my dear lovely pretty woman is why are you NOT lmao #if it’s okay your fave walks around freaking london as he has to rehearse the fucking marathon #every summer with amthe new woman he has to be seen woth in order to stay relevant (and *** a ******) … #the problem is clearly that playing the supercool ones in this scenario #only means you’re playing their supercool game of supporting closeting in the industry #dante would have put yall in the antichamber of hell ffs #i was so right when I wrote what I wrote about lights up lol #i mean you do you bestie but I’m literally starting to think #many act cool with it because they lowkey like the entertainment #even when is sick and dumb because after all that’s what they do it for #(i mean considering the passport of these people i wouldn’t be surprised but somehow I am I am)

[longagoitwastuesday]

One thing about me is that I will stand by basically every bad deed of my favourite characters fully aware of them being bad deeds. I just don't care

#'He destroyed an entire city and tried to destroy the world *twice*!!!' #Yes and he was right to do so. The motives are good and the city is fake anyway. Drown it in the abyss‚ dear boy #'He caused the fall of Camelot!' have you considered Guinevere and him wanted each other desperately and with a heart wrenching longing? #I don't care about Camelot #'He manipulated children to get his way!' again good motives. That's actually my favourite trait of them. Cheers #'He was the cause of kids dying!!!' Yes and it was quite the rational choice both times. And he wanted to go home to his wife and kid #Quite sweet of him #The other wanted to see his most important person again and ease their loneliness. I couldn't care less about the children dying #It's the 'absolute loyalty and devotion to someone means betraying everything else' approach #They do shitty things to everyone else but don't harm what matters to them the most‚ or not on purpose? #They can go wild. I'll support them in every step #Slay Gawain even if I love him. Cut heads off. Manipulate and kill children. Destroy the world. Steal from the kid you raised. Have fun #I'll bring you a snack and some water when you're done! #I talk too much #I should probably delete this later #The examples here are Heathcliff‚ Jack Vessalius‚ Lancelot and Odysseus #but I'm really okay with basically everything my faves do every time #In Ovid' Heroides it is said in one of the letters that Helen wanted to be kidnapped #I like the potential of the idea. As if trying to gain glory‚ reclaiming it as her right as daughter of a god‚ #and doing so in the way she can in her condition of woman (as opposed to someone like Achilles) #What can I say. I don't care if Hector dies and Odysseus is lost for twenty years #I mean‚ I do. I love them. But also... Good for her. Go take your glory‚ girl #Medea murders the kids? Avenge yourself. Clytemnestra murders Agamemnon? Avenge your daughter. Eat him later if you want #I don't stand by this interpretation (or not entirely) but is Cathy dying 'on purpose' to hurt Heathcliff and Edgar? #Destroy their lives. I love you #I just don't care. I fully support their wrongs. They're actually rights 😔 #'He is scamming and manipulating people' is particularly funny to me because that's not even all that bad? #It's always the best trait of the characters that do so #And idk maybe the scammed manipulated people could have been smarter about it

[running-in-the-dark]

shit I think I've just admitted to myself for the first time that I kind of hate my dad

#like I've had. conflicting emotions since he died in 2016 #talked through it a lot with my therapist and everything #but. #I think it's only now been long enough that I can be honest and say he really sucked #he was nicer than my mother so he was always my favourite #but he wasn't NICE #he constantly yelled at us #he never stopped my mother from blaming me for everything #right until he died he only cared about his girlfriend and his job #there was never one word about being sad about us (his children) #he did everything for whatever shitty woman he was with at the time. we were never a priority #he treated his girlfriend's daughter (my ex best friend) much better than he ever treated me and she is THE WORST. #like #fuck. that's not okay #he left his first wife and his two small children for my mother #he's always been shitty and I just didn't want to admit that both of my parents were not nice #I mean like I thought it was normal to constantly insult each other and like call your children/parents assholes and whatever #but that's not normal??? #like I even had to defend his shitty girlfriend's daughter all the time. she was so young still and he constantly said mean shit about her #fuck. I'm just so tired #I don't want to think about this anymore #and I will never admit this out loud around anyone in my family. because it was always my mother vs my dad and I was in the middle and #everything he did was my fault. he was the worst so I was the worst #(oh but they also had an affair for like 20 years after their divorce. while she was married and he was in several relationships) #(fuck my parents really just suck all around in every fucking way ľ

[nostalgia-tblr]

some of this tumblr Loki wank reminds me very much of when some Simm!Master stans got mad about Missy's redemption arc because "he was already good!!!! those murders don't count!!!" and ALSO the Thanos-control theory is a bit like "no ACTUALLY it was the drumming in his head that made him bad" we've even got some "it's sexist to have a female version of this character, because reasons" in there. wow, this is taking me back and no mistake. quick, to the wankmobile!!

#probably shouldn't tag this in case someone finds it and gets angry #if you're sat there going 'and you went batshit insane over the woman version despite not caring much about the dude one' then YES #you are right! i know my ways and i am at peace with them! #i suppose villain-stanning has some universals? #i was one of those who hated the drums btw #for the implied mental health stigma as well as because it removed the master's agency and etc #sometimes villains are villains! and that's okay! well not okay as such but you know what i mean #someone needs to write missy/syvlie i have too much on my fanfic plate at the moment #also a gallifrey populated by alligators wouldn't actually be much less effective than the normal one so maybe someone should look into tha

[tearlessrain]

please help me- i used to be pretty smart but i’m having so much trouble grasping the concept of diegetic vs non-diegetic bdsm!

gfkjldghfd okay first of all I'm sorry for the confusion, if you're not finding anything on the phrase it's because I made it up and absolutely nobody but me ever uses it, but I haven't found a better way to express what I'm trying to say so I keep using it. but now you've given me an excuse to ramble on about some shit that is only relevant to me and my deeply inefficient way of talking and by god I'm going to take it.

SO. the way diegetic and non-diegetic are normally used is to talk about music and sound design in movies/tv shows. in case you aren't familiar with that concept, here's a rundown:

diegetic sound is sound that happens within the world of the movie/show and can be acknowledged by the characters, like a song playing on the stereo during a driving scene, or sung on stage in Phantom of the Opera. it's also most other sounds that happen in a movie, like the sounds of traffic in a city scene, or a thunderclap, or a marching band passing by. or one of the three stock horse sounds they use in every movie with a horse in it even though horses don't really vocalize much in real life, but that's beside the point, the horse is supposed to be actually making that noise within the movie's world and the characters can hear it whinnying.

non-diegetic sound is any sound that doesn't exist in the world of the movie/show and can't be perceived by the characters. this includes things like laugh tracks and most soundtrack music. when Duel of Fates plays in Star Wars during the lightsaber fight for dramatic effect, that's non-diegetic. it exists to the audience, but the characters don't know their fight is being backed by sick ass music and, sadly, can't hear it.

the lines can get blurry between the two, you've probably seen the film trope where the clearly non-diegetic music in the title sequence fades out to the same music, now diegetic and playing from the character's car stereo. and then there are things like Phantom of the Opera as mentioned above, where the soundtrack is also part of the plot, but Phantom of the Opera does also have segments of non-diegetic music: the Phantom probably does not have an entire orchestra and some guy with an electric guitar hiding down in his sewer just waiting for someone to break into song, but both of those show up in the songs they sing down there.

now, on to how I apply this to bdsm in fiction.

if I'm referring to diegetic bdsm what I mean is that the bdsm is acknowledged for what it is in-world. the characters themselves are roleplaying whatever scenarios their scenes involve and are operating with knowledge of real life rules/safety practices. if there's cnc depicted, it will be apparent at some point, usually right away, that both characters actually are fully consenting and it's all just a planned scene, and you'll often see on-screen negotiation and aftercare, and elements of the story may involve the kink community wherever the characters are. Love and Leashes is a great example of this, 50 Shades and Bonding are terrible examples of this, but they all feature characters that know they're doing bdsm and are intentional about it.

if I'm talking about non-diegetic bdsm, I'm referring to a story that portrays certain kinks without the direct acknowledgement that the characters are doing bdsm. this would be something like Captive Prince, or Phantom of the Opera again, or the vast majority of bodice ripper type stories where an innocent woman is kidnapped by a pirate king or something and totally doesn't want to be ravished but then it turns out he's so cool and sexy and good at ravishing that she decides she's into it and becomes his pirate consort or whatever it is that happens at the end of those books. the characters don't know they're playing out a cnc or D/s fantasy, and in-universe it's often straight up noncon or dubcon rather than cnc at all. the thing about entirely non-diegetic bdsm is that it's almost always Problematic™ in some way if you're not willing to meet the story where it's at, but as long as you're not judging it by the standards of diegetic bdsm, it's just providing the reader the same thing that a partner in a scene would: the illusion of whatever risk or taboo floats your boat, sometimes to extremes that can't be replicated in real life due to safety, practicality, physics, the law, vampires not being real, etc. it's consensual by default because it's already pretend; the characters are vehicles for the story and not actually people who can be hurt, and the reader chose to pick up the book and is aware that nothing in it is real, so it's all good.

this difference is where people tend to get hung up in the discourse, from what I've observed. which is why I started using this phrasing, because I think it's very crucial to be able to differentiate which one you're talking about if you try to have a conversation with someone about the portrayal of bdsm in media. it would also, frankly, be useful for tagging, because sometimes when you're in the mood for non-diegetic bodice ripper shit you'd call the police over in real life, it can get really annoying to read paragraphs of negotiation and check-ins that break the illusion of the scene and so on, and the opposite can be jarring too.

it's very possible to blur these together the same way Phantom of the Opera blurs its diegetic and non-diegetic music as well. this leaves you even more open to being misunderstood by people reading in bad faith, but it can also be really fun to play with. @not-poignant writes fantastic fanfic, novels, and original serials on ao3 that pull this off really well, if you're okay with some dark shit in your fiction I would highly recommend their work. some of it does get really fucking dark in places though, just like. be advised. read the tags and all that.

but yeah, spontaneous writer plug aside, that's what I mean.

#I found their original stuff while I was researching various waterhorses and their folklore for no reason #because one of the characters in their original work happens to be an each uisge #and then it turned out it ALSO included a lot of figures from welsh folklore in general #so yknow if you happen to have my incredibly specific hyperfixations you'll love it but even if you don't it's great #I didn't mean to bring up phantom of the opera so much it just happens to be very relevant to a lot of my talking points #I haven't actually seen it in years