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ieatyourorgansout · 8 months
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I like to think Subyss would love the study of anatomy..
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subiysu-chan · 6 months
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Sorry for brainrotting but stuff subyss would say>>> do you have any more? 🤲
-Subyss has no problems with racial slurrs. Partially because it's XVIIIth century, partially because he's a rude jerk the best of the time.
-I don't know why, but I imagine in a more realistic version of Innocent, he'll use both swear words and formal speech in the same sentence.
-He's master of backhanded compliments. Such as: "My, oh my. The thoughness of your joints amazes me. I am surprised someone that clumsy still doesn't have any knee problems."
-Mock-pity...He's a master of it.
-His voice is quite castrated and eerie, but he can also sound very bitchy.
-"Now, mister/miss/missus...I won't lie, it'll hurt quite a bit."
-To his child victims: "Why won't you be a good boy and danse for me ? I don't care if you thrash, in fact, I prefer it." (You know what kind of dancing I am talking about)
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coentinim · 9 months
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Can I have some headcanons about Subyss as a child getting a trouble.
For a moment I thought old asks show up because I didn't notice the trouble part lol
He definitely got in trouble a lot. He's not entirely stupid, but he's not a genius either though it might be his alcohol-corroded brain. He's impulsive and naturally cruel and probably was like this since early childhood. He would get in trouble for jumping/lashing out at kids who teased him verbally to get a reaction (he was an easy target for them) (that one was inspired by personal experiences) (other hcs about him are not from experience dw).
Also I hc he was really reluctant or indifferent at best when it came to torturing people when he started to do it, so he might get in trouble for that too, kind of like Charles. Also he probably never got 'good' at the 'job', because at first he found it gross and later on he got addicted to satisfying his sadistic desires. I mean that he's not methodical like Charles when killing, he's super chaotic and has some weird complex about it. And even with how ineffective of an interrogation method torture already was... he'd personally lower the statistics.
I said I don't actually think Charles got punished all that much (he just latches onto those memories a lot since he's the type to contemplate his trauma) ...Subyss definitely did. If his father was also a torturer, I don't wanna imagine what he did to him as a punishment. It might have just been with stuff that was normal at the time, but the hypothetical dad/legal caretaker might be like Jean-baptiste and use an actual torture device and twist it that he's teaching his child how to use it... I'll leave that thought alone though, it's pretty disturbing to me.
He probably got in trouble for drinking and sleeping around since quite an early age for that stuff, like 16 or something.
Probably has some sort of masochistic fantasies, but whether that's natural to him, stems from childhood abuse, from a desire to be the victim out of curiosity or from some sort of repressed guilt, I don't know. Most likely all of the above.
Oooh he also takes out his rage on others always and takes shit personally, so if he got beaten for coming home drunk or failing at the job, you'd expect some half-dead convicts the next day since he blames the vague 'unjust world' and not himself for his actions. After no one can abuse him anymore, he still 'copes' this way.
He also has that thing where the more he gets punished, the more he does what he was punished for, as a sort of childish rebellion and bcs he thinks he's allowed to do anything he wants. That superiority complex grows with every person he personally ruins and traumatizes because of the power rush of standing above someone and hearing them beg. And he's sooo addicted to it that when Damiens refused to react to Subyss' cruelty he nearly fucking tormented him to death, man is INSANE. He doesn't see people as people anymore and couldn't form any type of relationship because of that.
I'm sorry for going so much off topic lol, I overanalyse this minor character so bad.
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unpunishablelamb · 10 months
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I'm sorry, now that I think abt it I realized my request might have sounded kind of rude. So please, feel free to ignore it (I'd even prefrer that because I'm anxious😭). But I still want to ramble about that absolute babygirl of a man. Any relationship with him would be abusive (probably mutually, he likes to provoke). I also think he finds it very erotic to hurt his lover in some way, be it emotionally or physically. Just imagine it though, being with him would not be all that bad. After all, he's really easy to manipulate.
Also, the inherent romanticism of him corrupting a young, innocent woman... my head is so full of him.
Lots of love for you 🩷
A/N: NOOOO don’t worry wasn’t rude at all it’s okay! i just chose to respond to this ask instead of the first one cause it wouldn’t make sense to respond to both 🫶🏻
ANYWAY subyss is absolutely abusive in a relationship! i actually think he would be more abusive towards his partner than others just because they spend the most time with him.
he is impulsive, lacks empathy and i honestly believe he’s a bit stupid! he enjoys your suffering and to him you’re nothing but a little toy, as if you gave a fluffy, spicy kitten to some little child who has no idea how not to hurt them because of how cute it is.
being around him would be so painful physically and mentally but he’s just so pretty and charming. your entire body would be covered in bruises no doubt and i honestly believe at some point you would either break down completely or turn abusive too as an attempt to defend yourself, depending on what type of person you are.
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eyesausomething · 8 months
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somethibg i drew at my session a few days ago !!
i really like subyss
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Can I please have Laito react to his bride being the daughter of an XVIIIth century french executioner, and one who enjoys the adrenaline rush with being mobbed ?
Laito: Bitch-chan, Bitch-chan~!
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Laito: If you like crowds so much... Could you really be an exhibitionist at heart? The thrill that comes with being watched, doesn't that get your heart racing~?
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alovelyburn · 11 months
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I think the part for me that really sells Griffith cares about Guts is that scene in the Eclipse where he tries to catch him. After all the torture done to him, trying to catch Guts (who's probably very heavy because of all the muscles) would probably be excruciatingly painful, physically speaking, with all the damage done to his skin, plus the bone damage caused by the lack of sunlight. I also bet that his shoulders have been in and out of their sockets a few times, because I'd have trouble believing one of the most commonly used torture methods where't used on him. But even with non-dislocated shoulders, with the amount of stiff scar tissue and fragilized bones...Ouch!
Honestly, there are so many things in the Golden Age and even after that definitively nail down that Griffith not only genuinely cared about Guts but did so to the point where it ended up damaging him (not inevitably, but because of how things played out) that I find the continued discourse around it genuinely baffling. So, yeah, I completely agree with you and at the same time I'm deeply confused about how anyone (not you, rofl) could still be unsure about Griffith's feelings by that point.
This is kind of a tangent, but when it comes to interpreting stories or character relationships, I think there are... different levels of interpretability.
There are things that one can fairly interpret in different ways because various different takes would make sense.
There are things where I'm kind of like, "well in order to get that you'd have to ignore the context of the scene, the nuances in the use of the specific japanese words/kanji used, and probably several interview responses, but if you really want to see it that way, you're not technically in direct contradiction with canon."
And then there are things where... genuinely, a take is just objectively wrong. "Griffith never cared about Guts" is absolutely one of these. Just on the face of it, if he didn't care about Guts he wouldn't be Femto - that's legitimately all you really need to understand that he cared about Guts (and the Hawks as a whole) immensely; at that point anyone who is saying otherwise is just factually incorrect as they're in arguing with black-and-white on the page canon.
The fact that so many people are so dedicated to misreading what they claim to be a favorite series is just so fucking weird to me. And speaking as a veteran of approximately 9,000 arguments and flame wars over Griffith, I have never seen a single person give a coherent explanation for how their perspective on this character even works, it's always just circular logic, projection of their own (unevenly applied) moralization, and vibes. IDK.
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bthump · 11 months
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I’m copypasting this ask so I can put it under a cut, because it’s a little graphic and I’m uncomfortable posting it without a warning. So tw csa:
@subyss-chan asked:
About Gennon being obsessed with Griffith and thinking of the "nice things they shared", probably is because he is delusional. Many in-real life pedo-philes are so, and I don't think it's Griffith being amazing in bed as much as Gennon being a crazy creep. Like, some pedos can literally interpret a child fainting in pain after fighting back as much as their small frames would allow them to as having an orgasm.
I think this is probably in response to this post?
Hopefully you’re responding partially to the anon ask, and I didn’t accidentally imply that Gennon is obsessed with Griffith because Griffith was good in bed anywhere. Like, if you got that from any of my posts then clearly I need to work on clarity lol. I definitely think Gennon is a liar who overtly romanticizes rape and we’re not meant to take his statements at face value. I don’t really think he’s deluded, since he was overt about intending to kidnap Griffith and didn’t, eg, assume that Griffith would come back willingly, but I do think he was blatantly lying in his final confrontation with Griffith to make himself look better.
My point isn’t that Gennon has a good reason for being obsessed with Griffith, or that Griffith led him on or dazzled him in bed. My point is just that it’s a useful parallel to others who pedestalize and obsess over Griffith, and it’s a recurring aspect of Griffith’s character and relationships for a clear thematic purpose.
I’m the type of person who focuses on themes when it comes to meta, so that’s usually where my answers to questions come from. I’m less interested in “what would likely drive these characters psychologically if they were real?” and more interested in “what is the narrative purpose of these characters’ choices and the way the story frames them?”
But yeah Gennon’s predatory obsession with Griffith can’t be blamed on Griffith in any way, even if he did dazzle him with sheer charisma. It’s just a recurring feature of Griffith’s life that reflects on his narrative in interesting ways.
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ruki--mukami · 1 year
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"Long time, no see!" said Subyss playfully.
"Indeed, Subyss. 'Work first, play later,' as they say. Just what exactly have you done during the time we haven't seen each other? I'm most curious. Don't misconstrue my words; I only ask because you are a rather idiosyncratic person compared to most humans I've met," the Vampire uttered, remembering their past interactions and the most enigmatic first meeting. "More importantly, what brings you back to this estate? These unexpected meetings are, to put it lightly, wearing my patience thin."
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script-a-world · 1 year
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The Drows I am worldbuilding have an extremely unique social structure thanks to living underground and dispersal across wide areas is quite costly for them. Only the oldest male and female siblings are fertile, the rest would have to wait for the death of the eldest one by one to become fertile. Drow society is patriarcal, and paternal aunts and uncles play an active role in providing ressources for the household and the education of their nieces and nephews, and thus enjoy a large degree of inclusive fitness. They also adopted a culture in which non-reproductive incest is considered a form of sexual education and they have no nudity taboo. How would their introduction to a society (thanks to natural disaster) that is mainly XVIth century "European" christians work?
Previous asks in this set are Part One, Part Two, and Part Three.
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anything-viva · 1 year
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oh motherfucker
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subiysu-chan · 6 months
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What do the Innocent executioners dream of? As in at night
I think almost all of them are prone to traumatic flashbacks when they try to sleep. Like during the day, their minds would be occupied.
I think Jean-Baptiste barely sleeps at all because of the nightmares he has of killing people. I think when he was younger, he would have nightmares of being murdered or framed by his rivals. The rivalry mentality in executioner and torturer groups would make it very difficult for him to cope with disability, since his new found vulnerability would mean having once again a target on his back...Also, Charles being inexperienced and clumsy, or illegally applying retentum, or that he considered to send him to a school in Toulouse were the prejudice against executioners and their families was much stronger, he would sometimes have nightmares of Charles' mutilated, battered corpse sent to him. He would later, as they gradually enter apprenticeship, have nightmares of his sons sent to him in a box. Also, the time he went to jail for a short while for botching a hanging, he still has dreams about his ex cell-mate, and how later he had to kill/brand him. Also, would sometimes have dreams of Madeleine still peacefully sleeping in his bed, or him having sex with her. On these nights, he'll hug Jeanne extra tight, who'll welcome the affection, not knowing he thinks of another woman. Because of the quasi-sibling like relationship they shared, his relationship with Madeleine is one that could never be replaced, and he'll never love another partner like he did with her. Given how he's presented all over the manga, I don't think he can sincerely love a woman he doesn't consider related to him. The relationship with his mother is quasi-incestuous, and Anne-Marthe is very misogynistic, and he seems to share her values. Also, being a dynastic executioner, I don't think he'll consider courting, marriying and then having children with a woman he considers a sister, aunt or niece to be morally wrong.
For Charles-Henri, he would have it similar, but the Revolution would drive those dreams to straight up hallucinations of the faces of his victims, of blood and gore. As a youngster, he would sometimes have dreams of his father hugging him, or strangling him. Up to age 23, he would sometimes have nightmares about his physical punishments. Sometimes, he'll see Jean de Chartois. Also, him sleeping around in his mid-twenties, and even after getting married, he would sometimes have sexual dreams regarding his wife or mistress(es). Also, I think the "soft compassionate side" of his personality never left, and mixted with his new playboy lifestyle, given how horribly prostitutes and "loose women" were treated, he would sometimes imagine he'll have to sheer or whip his mistresses, or have news that the magistrates had some sick "games" with them. Also, his wife finding out his infedelity is also one. However, he won't have any incestuous fantasies, and would be grossed out by the prospect. He spent too much time with individuals outside his cast and with the church to consider that...
I don't think Soubise/Subyss would sleep well either, his concious tormenting him a bit as he sleeps. Also, he is someone who always needs to be high on something, be it torture or alcohol. Subyss would often have dreams of being tortured himself, perhaps flashbacks prostituting himself to magistrates or doing tasks for them in the "convulsionaire" secret reunions (what they did there was pretty disgusting). Since torturer isn't enough to make a living on it's own, he'll be a corrector either for the Hôpital Général, colledges or for wealthy nobles with bratty sons or daughters (honestly, who ever happens to offer the most money for the job). I think he might sometimes get emotionally attached to those kids, especially as he shows signs of histrionic personality disorder making one believe that relationships are closer than they actually are. He'll also have sexual dreams about Nicolas, sometimes Damien.
Marie-Josephe: I think on top of flashbacks being tortured as a child, would sometimes have dreams of being held and hugged warmly. Marie-Josephe does have an underlying desire for affection and recognition. She seems genuinely hurt when Charles-Henri refused to support her during that La Barre execution, and we see a flashback asking Charles if he found her disgusting. In that part with the Chevalier Alain Bernard, she wonders if he'll change and leave her like Charles did. Also, we see her mocking and angry after her father asked to step aside so that he can finish Lally/Griffith in one stroke and treat his body with the "respect he deserves". Like, knowing her dad had some lingering friendship and respect for the man who raped her, but little to none to her, nor her mom...That must hurt. Again, Marie seems like someone who secretly wants love and approuval, but doesn't allow herself to indulge in that. However, at night, when she's about to sleep, I can very well imagine she'll have dreams of being hugged warmly by Charles, or by Alain...Maybe by her mother. Although, I don't imagine those dreams being pleasant to her, and she'll probably wake up afterwards with her face twisted into a grimace of pain. Thanks to having chosen the path of female executioner, I think Marie, for all her rebelliousness, does have desires and fantasies of acceptance, just that they bring her a lot of emotional pain.
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coentinim · 4 months
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No one can fix him, but he's pretty when he's all ruined
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unpunishablelamb · 11 months
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I know I sent a lot, but I hope you like this one. I like your headcanons, since they pretty much ackowledge most of your favorite characters are hot trashlords. What would be your "romantic" headcanons for Jean-Baptiste, Subyss and Nicolas-Gabriel ?Now, me thinks Jean-Baptiste has all the romanticism of a plank of wood, and doesn't probably know what a date or "galent rendez-vous" intails, but what are your thoughts on it ?
romantic headcanons for jean-baptiste, subyss and nicolas gabriel
(I had such a blast writing this especially for subyss he’s literally my pookie i want to bite him as if i was a pitbull🫶🏻)
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jean baptiste
-i feel like deep down he wants to be a romantic he really does but he’s just so emotionally crippled
-his love language is probably acts of service and i can really see him doing little favours to his darling like fixing their hair, pouring them wine or something like that
-he’s pretty shit when it comes to words of affirmation so physical touch would be the next get to go
-i imagine forehead kisses when he’s about to join you in bed
-biggest pda hater, he thinks it’s inappropriate and it could hurt his serious image
-deep down he wants to be appreciated so badly
-he secretly melts when someone tells him they appreciate his hard work, how much he does for the family, how handsome he is
-doesn’t show it but it makes his heart hurt in a good way, he probably just scoffs and stays quiet
-give him time it takes a lot for him to warm up
subyss
-manz is insane (i want him so bad)
-he lives for physical touch and words of affirmation
-he LOVES pda to a point where it’s borderline disgusting, he doesn’t hesitate to grab your ass or chest in public or literally shove his tongue down your throat
-he gets off on you being shy and embarrassed and he also gets off on people looking uncomfortable and grossed out around the two of you
-now when it comes to words of affirmation i genuinely believe he uses it to manipulate 90% of the time
-i headcanon him to have a shit ton of disorders but also npd (just like me frfr) so he will love bomb the shit out of you especially when he wants something from you
-he is BIG on receiving any kind of love language, he loves being worshipped as if he was a god
-he gets sooo cocky but isn’t he just so dreamy
nicolas gabriel
-most normal one tbh
-covert manipulation master though don’t underestimate him!
-i really feel like he also lovebombs like crazy but in those moments he really means it and he doesn’t love bomb on purpose
-when he’s in love with someone he would literally defend them no matter what they do, as long as they continue to live up to the image he has of them
-if you manage to do that he’d be a sweetheart, giving you bouquets of wildflowers and bringing you little trinkets every now and then
-he’d keep a hand on your waist or shoulder in public at all times and he’d also accept kisses to the cheek in public
-don’t disappoint him and he’ll cherish you forever
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girlvinland · 2 years
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I wanna read Innocent and Innocent Rouge again.
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myroanokedream · 14 days
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@subiysu-chan Subyss right?
He has a fixation with skin. Not in a racist way tho, he just likes how skin reacts, as an organ. How it peels off the body from burns, how it rips under sharp blades, how it tears off the muscle if you cut and pull in a certain way. He adores skin.
He tried some drugs when he was an older teen but he had a bad trip and didn't take them again (as in got unpleasant fucking hallucinations etc)
Sometimes has sex w his victims (probably promises to let them go/give them reprieve or food/discuss their sentence with the higher ups. He is lying he just wants to fuck)
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