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ivyines · 1 year

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Novel illustrations

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fekatsitra · 11 months

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In the novel, does Lloyd ever learned how OG Lloyd broke Javier's wooden sword in two?

I'm gonna ramble a bit but short answer: Yes.

Okay, first of all, the webtoon adaptation went differently from the webnovel. Some moments are skipped, and some others are delegated to a different chapter. Heck, a lot of Lloyd and Javier's banters got skipped. How Lloyd dealt with Viscount Lacona's knight is different, the knight didn't try to assassinate Lloyd in his sleep, and Lloyd didn't accept the knight's demand for a duel. There is more insight from Lloyd on why Javier is hesitant to completely trust his sincerity (the RP is still in the negative before).

Like, here's their conversation after they dealt the contract with the viscount (who tried to sabotage the water in the Frontera fiefdom):

So, here. The knight just barged and tried to attack Lloyd, in the viscount territory, except his attack was stopped by Javier. Completely different from the webtoon. Of course, Lloyd being Lloyd, he teased and made fun of Javier whenever and wherever 😂 Anyway, the development is completely different from the webtoon.

There's a part where Lloyd said there's good news and bad news, of how Javier is so talented that people would want to recruit him. Javier said it won't matter because his loyalty lies to the Baron alone and no one else basically.

They even talked about Sir Bayern, the webnovel expanded how Lloyd appreciates the other senior knight in the Frontera barony as he is a steadfast, fair, and unselfish man who prioritized the development and betterment of the fiefdom over getting envious of Javier, a younger knight, of being stronger. The novel has more pronounced in-depth appreciation and closer relationship of the other side characters than the webnovel, more than just comedic gag and Lloyd just using/exploiting Sir Bayern's talent.

Here's a glimpse of how Javier berated Lloyd for being improper and his RP no longer being in the negative:

Sorry for low quality, I just screenshot them through mobile 😂

ANYWAY! The conversation, place, and timing of Javier and Lloyd having their talk is different from the webtoon. It's soft, and feels more fluffy and I prefer the novel over the manhwa adaptation, but both medium are good. Just, I like the softer and calmer feels in the original webnovel.

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procuder · 5 months

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what is this.

Seriously, like, what on earth is happening. What on earth is happening here. I thought it would turn out better, but no, I raised my hopes too high.

How they portray og Lloyd's character??? Like, god excuse me Lee Hyunmin-nim, but what the hell??? Are you? ???????????

At first, I didn't think it would be this bad. What makes you think that Lloyd's mistreatment of Javier for so long was simply because he didn't know what to do when he was a kid, and he always wanted to be Javier's friend? I was quite interested in Lloyd's character. So this is it. FOR GOD'S SAKE, WHAT THE HELL??????????????

It was almost good, because, of course, he felt inferior to Javier when Arcos adopted him. It's normal for a 10-year-old to feel jealous and feel like they're about to steal their affection, especially if that child looks better than them in every way. And especially if they know that they will never be like that because they don't think they are good enough. Of course, that's just his own pov btw. I already know how much his family loves him. But that's what can happen, right? Because I don't like who I am also, and I know in my heart that my family loves me, but still🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

And yes that shit happened. So 😮‍💨

BUT IF. IF. If he could think like whatever you made him in the webcomic, he would have done it a long time ago. If this were his actual character's trait, he would have done it long ago. I didn't even think he'd apologize for something like this and in this way, you know? He always thought that he would change something in his life in the next life instead of. Yeah. Whatever tf he is doing in the webcomic here. I won't argue with you that Lloyd feels guilty for his family. But. Not with Javier. He hated Javier as much as Javier hated him, and he always would. I really wonder what makes you see Lloyd like that? Great. Now people who only read webcomic will 😮‍💨😮‍💨🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ SHAKING MY HEAD.

“I'm sorry I broke that wooden sword. Actually, I want to be friends." MY ASS what????? Is this where you sacrifice so many details for?? what??? I have so many things to say, but my God. I'M DONE.

And more than that, you changed Lloyd's will just because he was reincarnated as Suho? He doesn't want to deal with human stuff anymore, and he wants to be reincarnated as a whale because he doesn't like the stuffy atmosphere of hell. Yes, that's it. Easy and simple. The funny idea of someone who has been hiding in hell for a long time and fears of being eaten by the devil. But now you have changed him to want to be reincarnated as a human again to be a better person and work harder than Suho???

Excuse me, WHAT? He wants to work hard?? What makes you think that way out of all his character? Oh my god, they also cut out the scene where Javier, despite not liking Lloyd, wishes him a good new life. Huh? Okay??

THEY EVEN CHANGED HOW TIME RUNS. What is the point. WHAT IS THE POINT??? How important is it to change it? How important is it? From 1 month = 1 day to 1 month = 1 hour?? I wonder if there's any need for you to change it. Are you making a new story or adapting it?

But considering the fact that bk_moon approved every change, then it was...okay, never mind.

Anyway this chapter is pain hold your disappointment before reading it...😭

Oh yes, more than 3 times of Hellkaros thoughts of wanting to go home were completely omitted and now Javier and Lloyd were going to find the Dragon King. Great.

:(

I want my cookies back.

#tged #tged spoiler #ch 119 #og lloyd frontera #I haven't even mentioned Hellkaros in this chapter yet...#IT'S.#Jqhxjwkqkjdjqk

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caleism-1 · 1 year

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Wow… I expected something but I didn’t expect that… kinda.

Sometime the comments are really funny and interesting to look at… sometimes.

#tged spoiler #tged #the greatest estate designer #the greatest estate developer #chapter 81 on Manhwa #The legend of the s*** annihilating dragon #Solitas #lloyd frontera #shocking… not really #Even Javier was shocked

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ying-doodles · 1 month

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// novel spoilers (side story 1 / chp 403)

No but wait. Hold up. You're telling me that Javier wished for Lloyd to change and almost immediately Suho was sent into Lloyd's body?? Suho was literally sent to the world of 'Knight of Blood and Iron' for Javier?? ... If that's not the most romantic shxt I've ever heard of in my life?! Talk about destined soulmates!! Σ(°ロ°)!!

Okay but also why are they literally this meme:

#ying talks about tged #the greatest estate developer #tged #tged liveblog #tged spoilers #chp 403 #side story 1 #okay but it's interesting how in the novel javier made a wish and in the manhwa suho made a wish (that we still don't know what it was-)

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murasaki-cha · 1 year

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jsdhwdmax56 · 10 months

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Lol

Javier. Popular Guy. Loved by ALL the girls. Admired by the guys. Number One candidate for "Must Let My Daughter Marry" list of every noble there is. GOT REJECTED by LLOYD. Fucking lloyd!! 😂😂

Lloyd. who is always mistaken for servant. the bad guys ain't got nothing on his face. definitely number one candidate for "Must Tell My Family I Don't Want To Be Married. To"

#the greatest estate developer #tged spoilers #tged #lloyd frontera #javier asrahan #llojavi #look at Javier's face 😂#he looks murderous at the first panel 😂😂

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lloydfrontera · 5 months

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i think my issues with the canon romance at the end can be summarized by that competition alicia holds to win lloyd's hand.

she's like 'oh your new body sucks you need to marry someone who can protect you 24/7' so she holds a tournament to find the strongest woman in the continent and marry him to her so he'll have built-in bodyguard. which is objectively the funniest thing she could've done i love her so much. but. like. it's so unnecessary, redundant and also just,,,, factually incorrect??? ajdhka god lemme explain

here's how alicia puts it

but,,,, lloyd already has a bodyguard who's at his side 24/7. like. that's very much a plot point of the entire novel. there's literally a character who's arc is about coming to care about lloyd above anything else and deciding to stay at his side for the rest of his life to protect him. like. that's very much a thing that happened. it literally takes us 320 chapters to get to that point why are you acting like you're doing something new here

a swordsmanship competition. to decide who gets to marry lloyd. remind me what character have we spent the entire novel being told and shown over and over and over again is the most powerful and strongest swordsman in literally the entire world???

right. but he can't participate. because he's not a woman. which i think it's the point to this rant.

i don't think i need to spell it out but i'm gonna anyway.

the only reason javier isn't the one to end up with lloyd is because he's a man. because even by the in-universe made up requirements he's the most qualified one to do so, except that he's not allowed to even participate because he's not a girl.

and y'know what's the extra thing that just. makes me go a little insane because it's the one detail that makes me doubt for one second that all of this wasn't just pure chance or coincidence and instead is bk moon taunting us. y'know what it is.

what character is the only one who canonically can and has passed for a woman with no issue whatsoever in a seemingly out of nowhere gag that never comes up again. do you remember.

right. yeah.

so we have,,, a character who is devoted to our main character and has sworn to protect him for the rest of his life with everything he has, who is the strongest swordsman in the entire world and who can easily pass for a woman.

and then the main character is supposed to marry whoever wins a competition to decide who gets to protect him for the rest of his life, who is the strongest swordsman in the country and where only women are allowed to participate.

and i'm not supposed to read anything into that.

okay. i feel like i'm going crazy this is me right now

but seriously. this little tidbit that was probably just meant to be a joke about how alicia came to marry lloyd just,,, really highlights how unnecessary and redundant their romance feels to me

like. why would lloyd need to marry alicia. when he already has javier.

do you get what i mean

#i talk a lot <3 #tged #the greatest estate developer #tged spoilers #lloyd frontera #alicia magentano #javier asrahan #llojavi #again this is nothing against alicia! she's amazing!#her doing this is some actual queen shit #genuinely funniest way she could've done it #alas. i think actualy emotional build up is better for a canon relationship that just. jokes. but like. that's very much my own issue lol #ch 402

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individuals-collective · 1 year

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Tged affirmations - Part 2

(All of these are light-hearted btw!)

#the greatest estate developer #tged #the greatest estate developer spoilers #tged spoilers #the greatest estate designer spoilers #the greatest estate designer #lloyd frontera #javier asrahan #llojavi #arcos frontera #marbella frontera #siluria namaran #alicia magentano #alilloyd #alilloyd deserved more chapters #abstaining myself from tagging 약 파는 황태자 #and rakiel #also yeah i know it's spelled siluria #call me ggoming but I'm too lazy to change it

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autixel · 30 days

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Made this venn diagram of the ships I think about most often and realized some trends. Spoilers for tged and orv. Yes one of these ships is not like the others I'm well aware

#this message was brought to you by autixel #I SPENT 49 MINUTES ON THIS SHITPOST WHY DID I DO THIS #jinjae #llojavi #joongdok #wizardbaron #tged spoilers #orv spoilers #ah yes let's see we got korean novel... korean novel... korean novel and ig sequel... AMERICAN BOOK SERIES 🦅🦅#seventeen goddamned books and only two pieces of accurate characterization. release me.#one scene. AND ONE SHORT STORY IN ANOTHER SEPARATE BOOK.#Marcone. dear sweet Marcone. please be in Twelve Months. i fear I'm just now knowing you as a character.#for the other three it's like their authors got hands on gay concentrate and dumped 3 metric tons of the stuff into their respective stories

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littleravenette · 1 year

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javier meeting kim suho in seoul but he lost his memories

javier: look i know you don't remember me now but i need you to go with me because you are clearly miserable here and i want you to be happy

kim suho: sure

javier: ...

kim suho: what?

javier: the lloyd- i mean kim suho i know wouldn't agree so... easily?

kim suho: it was either stay here and rot away or follow a handsome man who wants me to be happy, i think i'll take a gamble

#and he did find happiness #the greatest estate developer #the greatest estate designer #tged #the greatest estate developer spoilers #rara incorrect quotes #this struck me while i was sleeping on my table #sleepy me has ideas™ that's for sure #also minor spoilers #ignore the fact he knows who javier is #he's like 'i can't be a fan in front of him'#kim suho dear you are a Loser #i'll elaborate later #rara aus

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ivyines · 1 year

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“Sir Ppodong?”

Javier made eye contact with Ppodong. Ppodong, who was hovering over the walnut kernels, raised his head.

“Ppo-dong?”

“My name is Javier Asrahan. I’m a knight who escorts Lloyd-nim. I’m looking forward to working with you.”

“Ppo-dong!”

Javier’s long finger and Ppodong’s small paws met to shake hands.

#tged #the greatest estate designer #the greatest estate developer spoilers #the greatest estate developer #tged spoiler #tged novel #tged official art #javier asrahan #Ppodong

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tgedphotos · 1 month

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Side Story 1 - “Sir Javier Asrahan's Wish”

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#novel image #tged #tged spoilers #lloyd #javier #duo #tged side story

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procuder · 5 months

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Let's see some of what they have sacrificed (a whole chapter lol I'm almost crying no I'm crying so hard rn I won't shut up about it) for that 'I want to be his friend' (my ass) scene! (I'm only choosing my favorite)

So, only after both of og lloyd and suho were on the train, before og lloyd got reincarnated btw ☺️ so we will see. What we were robbed just for half of chapter.

"Seriously? Are you still sulking?" Lloyd lifted his brow. "..." "What? Why? What? Don't look at me like that. Speak." "..." Ghost frontera didn't speak. But its gaze at Lloyd was distinctly different from a while ago. There wasn't anger, resentment, frustration, or any of the negative emotions that played across its eyes as it blewoff steam at Lloyd. The corners of Lloyd's lips rose slightly. "Hey, you're grateful but embarrassed for getting angry at me earlier, right?" "..." "I can see you flinching in guilt." "Oh, tsk... Come on." "If you're thankful, just say it. Don't curse me out."

And what's more funny is how suho cares for og lloyd lmao this is the proof that shows us how good person he is. And. You know. Yeah I'd rather not talking about how they portray his character out like that I cannot shut up.

"Hey, tell me if you feel motion sick." "Why?" "I'll remove the trap. That way, you can stick your head out and vomit." "I might as well just kick you out of the trap," growled Ghost Frontera. "Did you forget already how i beat you up after you tried to do that?" "No, I didn't, bastard," huffed Ghost Frontera. "Then let's just go reincarnate like a good boy. Anyway, how do you feel? What does it feel like to be the passenger of this monumental train?" "Well, nothing much." Ghost Frontera roughly scratched its jaw. "I want to get a drink. It's been a while."

Man...the more I write, the more sad I become when these good things are replaced with something. I don't know, you thought it was boring so you changed it? Even if it's just an unnecessary conversation but you know what? That allows readers to get to know the characters more. Get to know the character's attitude more. And can also relate more to that character...but...sigh. just. Sigh.

So I'm going to share my views on og lloyd right here. Tbh, he's a trash. Yes, he's inherently bad. And some people are just that bad no matter how good their family is. But if you try to analyze it through lloyd's pov on his home and his family. It's another kind. He finds his place boring and he is always dissatisfied with it. But with the little information we've gotten about what he was like when he was very young, and things he's noticed, even he considers them very boring. Of course, even though this bitch is a trash lol I never forgive him for what he had done (like-hate relationship for me and him lol)

Okay so. Hear me out. He did care for his family (*ahem* JAVIER EXCLUDED!!!!) but instead of changing himself he chose to let it be....yeah ykwim🤷‍♂️ As I've said before, he cares about his family and he knows he shouldn't have done that in the first place. But he was not the one to even say it because he thought he would do it in his next life. What makes you think that he'll do whatever tf he does in the webcomic? Lmao let me grab your collar and have some private discussion!!!

"You're heartless bastard. Don't you miss your family back there?" "No. My parents all passed away." Ghost Frontera paused for second before saying, "They say your family is always with you as long as they're in your heart. Cheer up, scumbag." "What are you saying?" Lloyd frowned with a smile. "Forget it. What about my parents? Are they well?" "Of course. They are as healthy as a horse." "Really?" "Yeah." Lloyd stared at Frontera. Then he continued in honesty, "Come to think of it, I'm relaying this news late. The Frontera family is no longer a barony." "What? What do you mean?" "It's county now." "Whaaat?" Ghost Frontera's eyes windened. "Surprising, right? I'm surprised too. Anyway, the count has resumed his hobby recently too." "Wood carving?" "Uh-huh. There are a bunch of wooden sculptures in the study already." "Then what about Mother's garden?" "It's still there. Oh, it has doubled in size. But I'm slightly worried about the count's back and knees." "What's up with that old man's back and knees?" "He's helping out with the gardening. He insists on crouching and giving a hand when he's not used to the work." "Tsk. I guess the man is still senseless as always." "Aren't you going to ask about Julian?" "Don't have to. He's a smart kid, so I'm sure he's doing well on his own."

And ;) they replaced these precious conversation with that. Changed long ass heartwarming conversation into 3 speech bubbles just to sped up the story and ooc'd literally every characters. I'm so okay sir. I'm completely okay.

This is just a part of chapter 243 you know TT you know how much we were robbed right? I am okay right now. It's not like I'm going to talk about how they manage to portray my king hellkaros like that too. Yeah I'm to tally okay with it!

Anyway, it's true that og lloyd cares about his family but, dumbass. he hated javier so much you know lee hyunmin-nim you already have read ch 408 how the hell did you manage to understand that 'wow this guy is actually a good person maybe he even wanted to be friends with javier too!' How????????????? He cared for his family, yes. And javier was there too? No. He's scumbag? Obviously. So he's a good person? NO DUMBASS. LOOK WHAT HE HAVE DONE TO EVERYONE AND TELL ME HOW.

Or are you just not good at writing complex characters? lol Not even mentioning what he was reincarnated as...

Qidjwkwiduiqoq I'm ; ;;; arugh. qidjqkqodk okay sir. well done.

I'll draw og lloyd and suho conversation soon ^^ watch me draw what it supposed to be soon! Watch me!!!!!!!

Also, how the hell again did you think he cared for his estate may i ask some simple question.

#tged #tged spoiler #ch 243 #God I love Hell arc so much that I cried #og lloyd frontera #lloyd frontera #kim suho #do you know the reason why I stop here?#you guys...it's better to read the whole arc yourself it's so good^^#i am not dragging myself to talk about hellkaros here or else i'll going insane #i don't care who tf is webcomic hellkaros is now i'm done #the only good webcomic hellkaros has is he's fucking dilf and hot grown ass man that's all #which is i don't even want to think that this mf is my gorgeous hellkaros ofc #i'm totally fine okay??#lol guys read the webnovel please!

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caleism-1 · 1 year

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