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ckret2 · 4 years

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“Bulgarian Goat Herder Alastor” really made me laugh. do you have any tips for writing angel dust (or any of the other main cast, really)? i know you kinda focus on alastor and pent but i suck at dialogue and could really use some advice :)

Thanks! :D

General non-character-specific advice? Honestly the best advice I have for capturing any character’s voice is “when in doubt, find a transcript of the dialogue and re-read that character’s lines in particular and study it closely.” The slang they use, how long the sentences they use are, what kind of vocabulary, how often they’re sarcastic vs sincere vs grumpy vs whatever other tone, etc. Nothing helps like going back to the source material and re-rereading the dialogue to get their voice fixed in your head. Here’s the wiki’s transcript for the pilot episode.

I specifically recommend transcripts over just rewatching the episode because, for me, I find using transcripts more useful than rewatching the episode, since as a writer my medium is text—I don’t have animation or a voice actor to support my dialogue—and so looking at the dialogue presented solely as text is more helpful for me to figure how to directly translate it into the medium I work in.

For Angel Dust, I don’t have any good overarching advice to tie his whole voice together—I haven’t written him as much so I don’t yet have his voice systematized the way I do Alastor’s or Sir Pentious’s. But instead I’ve got sort of a laundry list of individual points that I keep in mind while writing him, both in terms of his voice and characterization:

- Don’t write him as dumb. In fact, if you want to overcorrect and write him as smarter than average, it won’t hurt. That doesn’t mean using big fancy vocab words, just let him have a thinking brain in his head that shows when he talks.

- Sex is his job. It’s his profession. His relationship to sex work—and how he talks about it—ought to reflect how other people in service jobs talk about their jobs. If you can take time to track down accounts by actual real world sex workers talking about their jobs to draw from as inspiration, that’s fantastic and I recommend it, but if you can’t then just say to yourself “Angel Dust talking about his job ought to sound the same as a Starbucks barista talking about their job, except instead of making coffee he’s having sex.” The biggest consequence of this is going to be the tone with which he talks about sex. He’s not obsessed with it, he’s not drooling over it, he’s matter-of-fact and casual about it. As casual as talking about the weather or getting groceries. (Take your cues from canon: he says, “I can suck your dick! ... Eh, your loss.” He does not go, “Please let me suck your dick!” It’s “I can,” not “I want to.”) He’s gonna talk about sex a lot, but not in an exaggeratedly horny way.

- On a similar note: I try to separate out the sex he’s probably hypothetically having for fun during his time off from the sex he has for work, and he treats them differently: he approaches Fun Sex the same way most other folks do, and Work Sex is where he goes into matter-of-fact service worker mode.

- I haven’t got a strong grasp yet on which slang he does and doesn’t use, but overall his manner of speaking sounds a lot more modern than, say, Alastor’s. He sorta sounds, like, 30% 1930s gangster movie, 30% 2000s stereotype of how gay guys sound, and 40% Millennial/Gen-Z cusp kid who learned how to argue from Twitter and Vine. Any questions about which specific slang terms he uses should be answered by going back to the transcript of the pilot and his prequel comic and re-reading his lines for the fiftieth time, but for the most part he sounds pretty modern.

- But in my heart I feel like any slang term from the 1940s to the present should be legal for him to use as long as it doesn’t sound dated/incomprehensible to modern ears. In Angel’s normal day-to-day dialogue, if you throw in a term from the 50s or 80s that you happen to know and that sounds obvious and easily-understandable from the context, you’re good. If you throw in a term that you learned off of a “52 Great Slang Terms From The ‘40s We Should Bring Back” listicle that nobody will be able to understand in context unless they go look up the term, it doesn’t fit in his mouth, because in canon his slang is never so dated as to be incomprehensible.

- Angel’s got an accent that some people (including the folks that transcribed the pilot’s dialogue onto the wiki) render by dropping all the G’s on -ing words and switching out “you” for “ya”. (Example: “And it's obvious ya ain't catchin' on.”) General advice on this, for Angel and for any other character: don’t do this. On rare occasions, to imply emphasis, is fine. But if every single G is dropped? Yeah, we saw the show, we know what his accent sounds like. Constantly emphasizing an accent by spelling words unusual ways is like pointing a finger at an accent and going “look, isn’t that person’s voice weird??” which ain’t cool—and on top of that is distracting and, if the written accent is too heavy, makes it hard to read. Put Angel’s voice in the word choice, not in the weird spellings. This essay on writing accents is, despite being nominally about Transformers fanfic, the single most useful accent writing advice I have ever received in my life, so even if you don’t know Transformers I recommend reading the essay anyway—because the advice in it applies just as well to writing Angel.

- Angel’s inclined toward snappy, quippy, snarky dialogue—sharp, rapidfire comebacks with clever wording and phrasing. Writing clever snappy dialogue is hard, I don’t have advice on how to make it easier. I’m just pointing out that it’s a thing he does. If you wanna write Angel: get witty. Good luck.

- This is more on body language than on dialogue, but remember all his hands. He’s very expressive with them in canon—lots of gestures and finger-snapping, lots of having different sets of hands doing different things. You don’t have to describe where all four-to-six hands are at all times, or else we’re gonna get bogged down with obsessively keeping track of all of Angel’s hands rather than moving the story forward—but supporting his dialogue with hand gestures and maybe an occasional mention of different hand sets doing different things can help add realism to the idea that he’s got extra limbs and capture the sense of physical expressiveness he has in canon.

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iamatpeacewitheveryone · 5 years

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How I became obsessed over the Fab 5

Yass Queen I often heard that phrase on social media Particularly on twitter. I thought that this phrase is a new slang for millennial and gen-z that I just haven’t caught on yet (as most of the slang terms of early 2010s).

Jonathan Van Ness this is the guy that may or may not have started the popular phrase “yass queen” but he sure does use it a lot. When I first saw him randomly on a thumbnail of my recommended youtube video I described his appearance as “gay lord” ( I wanna use “Jesus” but in my opinion that’s disrespectful to my religion). He often is featured on hollywood celebrity channels (which I didnt clicked on that time). I thought that he may be a new emerging star or an old celebrity that I didnt know (bluntly I just didnt care). For me, most starlets that enters hollywood are shallow empty-brain fake people that does a lot of stupid stuff to be relevant. I just didnt care about this gay lord that is making the media go gaga over him.

Big Mouth Im a huge fan of this show. I love cartoons!!! Im 25 year old btw and Idga fudge of what you think about that 🙄. The heart of a child in me just never died 🥳. When season 3 came out I was ecstatic! I finished the whole season in one day and I finished it again the next day and the next day after that. I love the humor. I love the educational information sorrounding teens undergoing puberty, sex ,relationships and gays! I mean Im 25 but Im behind all these things that I should have learned in my teenage years. You know why? Because my country put stigma around sex education thinking that it will encourage kids to have sex. well guess what? With or without sex-ed some kids will still have sex. Anyway in season 3 they included the Fab 5 and I immediately recognized gay lord. I then learned that he is part of a reality TV show and has four other gay guys with him. So after watching big mouth I went on youtube and searched “Queer Eye” and sure enough the fab 5 pop out. The first video that I watched was “Fab 5 takes a lie detector test” . I laughed at their animated quirkiness and after that I watched Queer Eye on netflix right away. Aah!

Queer eye I fell inlove with the first episode. I love how they transformed Tom ❤️ ( I didnt really approved with the styling. Sorry Tan). I love their kind approach to Tom and how they make as simple as going mattress shopping hilarious. I love their relationship. Immediately I fell inlove right away with Jonathan Van Ness’ personality! He is full of gay antics and he exudes so much femininity. He is more of a girl than a gay man. Usually I see gays as men who are feminine (or overly feminine) like James Charles and Jeffree Star. Jonathan is more masculine looking than most gays. He sports beards and does not wear makeup. But for me, he is literally a girl in a man’s body.

Gay + Reality Show I never really thought that I will one day be a fan of gay reality show. First, I never had any gay friends in my circle of friends. Gays and I are like oil and water, we dont blend. Im introverted, Im chill and laid back, and a little tomboyish. Gays most of the time are extroverted, flamboyant, rowdy, sassy, and overly dramatic. Im not saying all gays but most of the gays that I encountered. I like them. I like their existence. Dont get me wrong Im not homophobic. It’s just I like them at a distance. Their personality overwhelms me. So it comes as a surprise to me how I came to love the fab 5. And on a reality TV show? Guuurrlll dont even get me started how much I dislike reality shows especially from hollywood. I see such shows as fake, phony, cheesy, and doesn’t really have any substance in it . I don’t waste my time watching these pretentious shows. But Queer Eye changed that.

I love how the casting is diverse. At least, two out of five people are colored people. As an asian Im so proud of Tan, and happy that he is part of this. Im proud how they bravely shared their traumatic stories of how they we’re outed and abandoned by the people they considered family. How they courageously show their vulnerability. You go Queens!

Religion affected Bobby that he cant even go inside a church. Inspite of this, Bobby had learned slowly to let go of the baggages and make peace with his past. I pray that he will be completely free one day because I believe we can all heal. Bobby is an inspiration for the lost and abandoned. I cant imagine my family disowning me and being out their on my own at the age of 15. Look at him now a very successful interior designer. He gave me hope.

I love how Karamo fought despite of racism and homophobia, and went for the things that people denied him of. Imagine being in a room full of people making you feel unwelcomed? Im so proud of you Karamo. Im happy of all the things you have now.

I love how Jonathan fights the issues and rights that I also believed in. He uses his voice to put awareness over racism, sexism, homophobia, HIV, diversity and hatred (which are mostly Trump supporters. just kidding 😜).

I love how Antoni is passionate with food. I can listen to him talk about food all day. He is also sensitive to other people’s feelings. He is respectable towards other people and sympathetic. He is refined and cultured.

Obsession I became obsessed! The proof is that I started taking care of my self more. Im not lazy anymore with my beauty regimen. I updated my products. SERUM AND SUBSCREEN!!! I floss always now. They inspire me to look fabulous everyday even when Im at home.

I started following them on their individual instagram account. Search them on google, pinterest and tumblr. Dont forget twitter for daily updates. My youtube recommendations are all filled of Queer Eye’s casts. Help me! And if that’s not enough I bought their individual books (audiobooks).

I’ll be giving my review on their individual books next time. Im also learning to use podcast since Jonathan and Karamo has their own podcast channel. Can you believe?

#netflix #big mouth #queer eye #feminism #gay #Jonathan van ness

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