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#the duffer brothers are the jaws movies
ickypuppi3 · 2 years
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steve is all ‘ok but haven’t you ever watched jaws?’ when billy takes him surfing for the first time and ends up getting a full blown lecture from billy about how misunderstood sharks are
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Possible JAWS parallels for Vecna’s end + Mike fake-out death
Ever since I posted my analysis on the JAWS poster motif in ST—with JAWS representing Vecna, the placement of the poster in Will’s rooms during Byler heart-to-hearts, and it showing just how much Mike in particular is being targeted by Vecna—I’ve been thinking a lot about the last ten minutes of the film. Specifically, I’ve been thinking about how the film ends on Hooper and Brody.
Hooper, the oceanographer who discovered with Brody just how much of a threat Amity was under because of the monster shark (and goes out to sea with Brody and Quint as a means to put an end to it), enters the water in a shark-proof cage to lethally inject the shark via hypodermic spear.
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The shark rams the cage, Hooper drops the spear, and it falls to the seabed.
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The shark bends the bars and pushes its head into the cage, trashing it in an attempt to kill Hooper. Hooper fights back—
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—and manages to slip past the shark while it thrashes around in the cage’s remains. Hooper swims down to a rock formation on the seabed and hides there.
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Cut to when Brody, atop the sinking Orca, utters the famous line “Smile you son of a bitch!” and shoots at the shark, hitting the tank in its mouth and blowing it up.
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He did it. Finally. Brody defeated the shark. There’s relief and triumph in his laughter as the mangled corpse sinks amid its blood. As the shark sinks, so does the victory in Brody’s face. Adrenaline is calming. He’s likely processing everything that’s happened while thinking he’s the only one left out there on the water.
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But Hooper surfaces. He’s alive, unharmed, and he swims over to Brody. The two, completely exhausted from the fight they just endured and overcame, share laughter. As in, yeah, we survived that.
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Since Worlds Turned Upside Down mentions “the Duffers often cited the villainous shark as a key inspiration for the monster haunting Hawkins,” and that JAWS is also “the Duffer brothers’ favorite film,” I am entertaining the possibility that Vecna’s eventual demise could resemble the shark’s. AND this includes a fake-out death for Mike (Hooper) as well as Will (Brody) being the one to ultimately kill Vecna while thinking Mike is dead before he ‘comes back to life.’ There could be scenes paralleling Hooper and Brody during the fight and in the aftermath. For Will and Mike of course, everything would have its own details that fit for them and I can’t imagine it not being crazy emotional. Mike being attacked, fighting back with all he has within a literal grasp of death, ‘dies’ but is actually okay, Will doesn’t know it, Will has an insane final confrontation with Vecna before he kills him, Will thinks he’s alone… but there Mike is. Coming back to him.
The catharsis of it all would be so unreal. I can’t even fully imagine it myself.
Also. I can’t not think of the fact that the final battle in JAWS takes place in the water. Most of the movie takes place around or in the ocean, so it’s a given. But in context with all the water references/imagery/motifs in ST and negative associations with it (many relating to some kind of conformity or death), it has me wondering about how the final battle in ST might look despite there being no water in the UD. I do keep thinking about the quarry though… and the void…
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bylertruther · 1 year
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OCCUPATION: Chief of Police, Hawkins, IN ABILITIES: Vietnam Veteran, skilled with firearms, strong survival and fighting skills WEAKNESSES: Prone to violent outbursts, haunted by the death of his only child, heavy drinker and smoker, possible addiction to antianxiety medications
The role of Hawkins chief of police Jim Hopper was “certainly the most interesting character that had ever been sent my way,” Harbour says. “I love very flawed individuals as well, and I love very messy individuals who in turn discover who they are through the course of a few series of events, which forces them to either grow up or die.”
In auditions for Hopper, Harbour captured the character’s loose, rough-and-tumble masculinity and hinted at the police chief’s broken heart. “When I read the first draft of the script, I immediately thought of my grandfather John Ashe, who was a lieutenant in the NYPD motorcycle division when I was a kid,” says casting director Carmen Cuba. “He was the most iconic American man I knew, slightly terrifying and incredibly loyal and loving. He was also six feet, three. David Harbour embodied all of that in this character without ever having been given that direction.”
[…] “I was looking at movies about cops that are a little bit messed up and have to go into a situation that makes them face their biggest flaw.”
“Roy Scheider’s character [from Jaws] was a big influence with his uniform look,” says costume designer Kimberly Adams. “What was great about how that movie was done was that the chief had a different uniform than his guys. that felt right for Hopper to not be the same as his guys, to make it more small-town, not so perfect. The hat—we wanted it to seem like something that had been on [Hopper’s] head for a while.” Even the way Hopper’s clothes hang on his body indicate that something’s amiss in his life. Adams says, “David didn’t want to slim down for the character. [Hopper] drinks a lot of beer, and he’s not taking care of his body like he should. So we played into that with the way that his jeans fit, the way his clothes fit. He’s let himself go a little bit.”
Harbour had other insights into Hopper’s demeanor and his behavior that he eagerly shared with the Duffer brothers. “One of the things was I wanted him to be very emotionally unavailable and have problems with intimacy,” Harbour says. “So there’s this stuff with sleeping around. […] All that stuff was my contribution because I wanted to see more of the degradation of this guy in terms of intimacy.”
Hopper’s cowboy persona quickly turned him into the show’s resident sex symbol—despite his inner turmoil, he moves through the world with confidence. He’s hot-tempered and brave. “He is still and simple in a show that is often loud and busy, and yet even with that simplicity, he conveys such damage, such wounds,” executive producer Shawn Levy says.
(From Stranger Things: Worlds Turned Upside Down.)
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Stranger Things is an obvious portrayal of this terms theme with the ‘upside down’ mimicking the real world only to be plagued with monsters and a supernatural twist. Producers of the show The Duffer Brothers have spoken of their inspiration from: Dungeons & Dragons being significance to the design of the monsters; the plot taking a loose influence from an alleged US Military programme named The Montauk Project; and lastly in an interview the brothers pull apart scenes and reveal some of the movie references. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGGc1wGmgbM In particular they bring up the influence of the goonies which I think are an obvious nod to the casting of the kids. They follow the trope of a group of curious kids who find themselves trying to solve the mysteries of their town (They also cast Sean Astin to play Bob for Stranger Things, one of the previous child actors from The Goonies). I think it feels more real to have kids uncover these things because they tend to act on impulse and so being that young justifies the mistakes they make. I also want to highlight how a lot of their inspiration is conjured up from movies of the 80s so it’s a good indication of why Stranger Things takes place in that same era. But as they discussed it makes the use of mobile phones non existent and replaces it with walkie talkies so they can work or not when required for the story. 
To refer back to the influence of the monsters the Duffer Brothers discussed the impact of dungeons and dragons but also in particular how the demogorgon was “influenced by the shark in Jaws because we wanted it to be a shark like creature. Except instead of coming out of the water, it was coming out of another dimension. Who’d break through the surface of that dimension reach into ours, grab a victim like Barb for instance and pull that victim back into his world.” 
As for the creative decision behind the mind flayer the Duffer Brothers said:
“We came up with the creature and it was always called the Shadow Monster. Then we were like, “We need to come up with a proper name for this thing.” When we were going through the Dungeons & Dragons manual, I found this creature I’d forgotten about called the Mind Flayer. It was so close to the idea of our Shadow Monster. It was eerily the same. We were like, “Well, we’ve got our name.” It’s a weird-ass name, but the Mind Flayer it is.” https://www.vulture.com/2017/11/the-duffer-brothers-recap-stranger-things-2-the-mind-flayer.html Mind flayers were created by Gary Gygax, who has said that one of his inspirations for them was the cover painting of the Titus Crow book The Burrowers Beneath by Brian Lumley. Tim Kirk's cover art on the book, then in its first printing, depicted only the tentacles of the titular burrowers, the Chthonians.
As of recent season 4 has revealed Vecna as the true antagonist all along. What distinguishes him from the rest is his ownership over the upside down including all the creatures that have emerged from there. His power and abilities allow him to go beyond the upside down moving through gateways into the human world. And murdering teenagers of Hawkins Indiana in a gruesome manor by levitating the victims then proceeding to snap their bones. 
The duffers explain there inspiration and purpose of vena in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEtAuQmjjok . Briefly saying how they wanted to go back to having “something that was practical, that was tangible, that was actually on set”   instead of having “a green tennis ball or in some cases it’s a beach ball to represent it and so the actors and us are just imagining it was there”.  And as for the actual design they mentioned Hellraiser, Pennywise and Freddie Krueger being a big reference and further suggesting how “these 80s villains that felt really real and sentient and smart”.
Overall I think the success of the series is completely deserved and I personally love it and am fondly anticipating the release of season 5.
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imgonnaeditstuff · 3 years
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"When I first auditioned for Stranger Things, I was just living in Chicago. Just looking for a job. Working at a restaurant, doing commercials and bit parts on shows. I honestly would have been happy booking anything. But I remember seeing the concept trailer the Duffer Brothers put together. The boys took these bits and pieces from all the movies that inspired them—Jaws, E.T., The Thing, Firestarter—and they cut them together into a mock trailer for what they wanted the vibe of the show to be. I was like, "Oh, man. This would be so, so cool."
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strangertheories · 2 years
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Stranger Things season 4 will have a horror movie vibe
According to the Duffer brothers, season 4 will be the most horror movie like yet.
“When we pitched it to Netflix all those years ago, we pitched it as the kids are ... The Goonies in E.T. That’s their storyline. And the adults are in Jaws and Close Encounters and then the teens are in Nightmare on Elm Street or Halloween. But, this year, we don’t have the kids. We can’t do The Goonies anymore. And so, suddenly, we’re leaning much harder into that horror movie territory that we love. It was fun to make that change.”
What do you guys think about this? I can't wait!
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ruzekburgess · 5 years
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When I first auditioned for Stranger Things, I was just living in Chicago. Just looking for a job. Working at a restaurant, doing commercials and bit parts on shows. I honestly would have been happy booking anything. But I remember seeing the concept trailer the Duffer Brothers put together. The boys took these bits and pieces from all the movies that inspired them — Jaws, E.T., The Thing, Firestarter — and they cut them together into a mock trailer for what they wanted the vibe of the show to be. I was like, Oh, man. This would be so, so cool. But as an actor, you audition for something and forget about it, because you figure, Yeah, that was really fun. Probably won’t get it. On to the next one.
Joe Keery | GQ Magazine
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daily-men · 5 years
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When I first auditioned for Stranger Things, I was just living in Chicago. Just looking for a job. Working at a restaurant, doing commercials and bit parts on shows. I honestly would have been happy booking anything. But I remember seeing the concept trailer the Duffer Brothers put together. The boys took these bits and pieces from all the movies that inspired them—Jaws, E.T., The Thing, Firestarter—and they cut them together into a mock trailer for what they wanted the vibe of the show to be. I was like, “Oh, man. This would be so, so cool.
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azaraspirit · 5 years
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you working on set of stranger things (since my dream is to be a director and i think that show is directed phenomenally) and getting close with dacre montgomery bc you both like poetry and interior design and he’s actually really sweet but tom gets jealous and fucks the shit out of you (and you reassure him of course that you’re his and he’s yours) -tomslovey
You dreamed of being a director and you somehow managed to run in the Duffer Brothers and mentioned it and they offered you a job on their show of Stranger Things. Obviously you said yes. Like who wouldn’t?
Everyone was cool and you surprisingly had a connection with Dacre who played Billy. You often bonded in between takes, taking silly pics and vids for instagram but careful not to spoil. You watched HGTV shows and shared poetry Dacre wrote. 
You told Tom everything about your adventures in set including Dacre and you two been together long enough to know when he was jealous. The ride was awkward and quiet, the first obvious sign. Tom always picked you up from set and dropped you off.
“Tom?” you asked.
He glanced at you for just a moment but his jaw was clenched, another sign. 
“Are you jealous of my friendship with Dacre?” you asked, even though you already knew the answer. You were giving Tom and opportunity to be honest.
Tom scoffed, focusing on the road ahead of him. He tapped the wheel repeatedly with his thumbs. You could practically hear the gears turning in his head.
“Yeah. I am jealous.” Tom finally spoke.
You kept silent, waiting to hear more.
“I’m jealous that he’s all over you.” he growled. “I’ve seen those videos. He knows you’re my girlfriend right?” His eyes flickered at you for a moment.
“Of course, Tom. You have no reason to be jealous. We’re just friends.”
“I don’t think he gets it.”
“Tommy...” You tried the pet name to ease him a bit, knowing it makes him soft.
“I just...” He sighed. He paused to pull in the driveway and turned the engine off to look at you. “You been doing this a lot lately, and I’m so proud of you...I just...don’t get to see you a lot and seeing him with you I...” He sighed again.
“Tommy...” You took his hand in yours, squeezing it tight. “You can come visit me all you want you know that? They loved it when you came by that one time.”
“I know I just feel like I’m a distraction and I want you to be great. I hope you direct the movie of your dreams one day. I’m sorry I was a shitty boyfriend. You’re right. I had no reason to be jealous.”
You smiled softly at him and leaned over to peck his lips. “Just be honest with me okay, Tommy? I hate it when people don’t communicate their feelings.” 
Tom sighed, smiling. “I’m sorry, y/n.” He kissed you sweetly, accepting his apology. 
“Dacre is cool and all but I like Spider-Man way better.” you teased.
Tom blushed, smiling. “Ya know I was thinking maybe we could...” He kissed you deeply. 
“Bedroom.” you managed. “Now.”
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mancandykings · 6 years
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“When I first auditioned for Stranger Things, I was just living in Chicago. Just looking for a job. Working at a restaurant, doing commercials and bit parts on shows. I honestly would have been happy booking anything. But I remember seeing the concept trailer the Duffer Brothers put together. The boys took these bits and pieces from all the movies that inspired them—Jaws, E.T., The Thing, Firestarter—and they cut them together into a mock trailer for what they wanted the vibe of the show to be. I was like, “Oh, man. This would be so, so cool." 
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charliemvrdock · 6 years
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”When I first auditioned for Stranger Things, I was just living in Chicago. Just looking for a job. Working at a restaurant, doing commercials and bit parts on shows. I honestly would have been happy booking anything. But I remember seeing the concept trailer the Duffer Brothers put together. The boys took these bits and pieces from all the movies that inspired them—Jaws, E.T., The Thing, Firestarter—and they cut them together into a mock trailer for what they wanted the vibe of the show to be. I was like, “Oh, man. This would be so, so cool.”
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joekeesry · 6 years
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“When I first auditioned for Stranger Things, I was just living in Chicago. Just looking for a job. Working at a restaurant, doing commercials and bit parts on shows. I honestly would have been happy booking anything. But I remember seeing the concept trailer the Duffer Brothers put together. The boys took these bits and pieces from all the movies that inspired them—Jaws, E.T., The Thing, Firestarter—and they cut them together into a mock trailer for what they wanted the vibe of the show to be. I was like, “Oh, man. This would be so, so cool.”
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hearteubeateu · 6 years
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When I first auditioned for Stranger Things, I was just living in Chicago. Just looking for a job. Working at a restaurant, doing commercials and bit parts on shows. I honestly would have been happy booking anything. But I remember seeing the concept trailer the Duffer Brothers put together. The boys took these bits and pieces from all the movies that inspired them—Jaws, E.T., The Thing, Firestarter—and they cut them together into a mock trailer for what they wanted the vibe of the show to be. I was like, “Oh, man. This would be so, so cool.
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chaerilus-blog · 6 years
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When I first auditioned for Stranger Things, I was just living in Chicago. Just looking for a job. Working at a restaurant, doing commercials and bit parts on shows. I honestly would have been happy booking anything. But I remember seeing the concept trailer the Duffer Brothers put together. The boys took these bits and pieces from all the movies that inspired them — Jaws, E.T., The Thing, Firestarter — and they cut them together into a mock trailer for what they wanted the vibe of the show to be. I was like, “Oh, man. This would be so, so cool.”
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minggurie · 6 years
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"When I first auditioned for Stranger Things, I was just living in Chicago. Just looking for a job. Working at a restaurant, doing commercials and bit parts on shows. I honestly would have been happy booking anything. But I remember seeing the concept trailer the Duffer Brothers put together. The boys took these bits and pieces from all the movies that inspired them—Jaws, E.T., The Thing, Firestarter—and they cut them together into a mock trailer for what they wanted the vibe of the show to be. I was like, "Oh, man. This would be so, so cool."
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clintbartons · 6 years
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"When I first auditioned for Stranger Things, I was just living in Chicago. Just looking for a job. Working at a restaurant, doing commercials and bit parts on shows. I honestly would have been happy booking anything. But I remember seeing the concept trailer the Duffer Brothers put together. The boys took these bits and pieces from all the movies that inspired them—Jaws, E.T., The Thing, Firestarter—and they cut them together into a mock trailer for what they wanted the vibe of the show to be. I was like, "Oh, man. This would be so, so cool." But as an actor, you audition for something and forget about it, because you figure, "Yeah, that was really fun. Probably won’t get it. On to the next one." (Joe Keery for GQ Magazine, Photographs by Aaron Feaver)
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