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wrenhavenriver · 20 days
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The Forgotten City
...in a pose of lamentation... ...as if begging the gods for mercy... ...praying for help that never came...
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fictionz · 2 years
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Time loop video games and why we love (or hate) them
Some essays about time loops in video games:
“Time Loop Narratives Are About Love” by katy (cw: incest)
“Growth is a genuine change in you. Growth is seeing the world differently than you did before because you’re someone different now.”
Games highlighted: The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask, DEATHLOOP, Twelve Minutes, Oxenfree
“Time loops are a weird genre for an anxious time” by Jenna Stoeber and Polygon
“Part of why they’re regaining popularity is because the world is a mess and we either don’t know how or don’t have the power to fix it.”
Games highlighted: The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask, Elsinore, Outer Wilds, Undertale, Inscryption, The Stanley Parable, The Forgotten City, Twelve Minutes
“Time Loop Nihilism” by Jacob Geller (cw: graphic violence and incest)
“I eventually came to realize, if I’m going to do this all again, if there are few real consequences for failure... why would I play in a way that’s so boring?”
Games highlighted: DEATHLOOP, Dishonored, Hitman 3, Bloodborne, Twelve Minutes
"Clockwork Games and Time Loops" by Game Maker’s Toolkit
“Every decision you make matters because you’re always spending your most precious currency: time.”
Games highlighted: Outer Wilds, Dead Rising, The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask, The Sexy Brutale, Elsinore, Minit, Vision Soft Reset, Twelve Minutes, DEATHLOOP, Hitman 2, Deus Ex: Human Revolution
"Why Time Loops Work Best in Video Games" by Extra Credits
“Failure doesn’t feel like an inconvenience or a punishment, but is instead a natural and necessary part of the story.”
Games highlighted: Elsinore, The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask, Undertale, DEATHLOOP, Returnal
"The Problem with Time Loop Games | 12 Minutes Analysis" by Ozzy II (cw: graphic violence and incest)
“This is the point I was talking about earlier, where the first half of the game is just worthless.”
Games highlighted: The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask, Outer Wilds, Twelve Minutes, The Sexy Brutale
“Dying Rules in Time Loop Games” by Inside Gaming
“When the sun began to glow and implode, I knew I had no choice but to put down whatever I was doing and accept what was about to happen.”
Games highlighted: Outer Wilds, Into the Breach, Minit, Twelve Minutes, DEATHLOOP, The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
"The Best Time Loop Games" by The Gadget Show
“Its black-and-white design and funny writing make this one memorable way longer than the minute it takes to complete a loop.”
Games highlighted: DEATHLOOP, Outer Wilds, The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask, Minit, Elsinore
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glitteringpoet1685 · 1 month
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If I had a nickel for every game I played this year where an important theme of the game was 'the religions of today were built upon the spiritual and physical ruins of the religions that came before them which in turn were built upon the religions which came before them (all while decrying the old religions as myth or heresy)', I would have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but weird that it happened twice right?
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Rating Time Loop/Travel media based on how well Zorian would handle it.
Undertale: 7/10 If Zorian had Frisk to worry about as the main controller of the loops he would help the monsters be freed by the second loop (he's not going to kill sentients in front of a child). If Zorian was on his own as the last human he'd do a handful of neutral runs before he figures out what he has to do.
Forgotten City: 9/10 Zorian would have no historical context for culture clashes but he's a mind reader. He'd just read Sentius' mind, and contact Proserpina through telepathy and be able to solve the time loop in the first loop. He's an actual mage, maybe he'd actually have the respect of Pluto.
Doctor Who: 6/10 Zorian would do great in exactly one (1) adventure but if the Doctor asked for further help or to become a companion Zorian would run away in the opposite direction. He does not want to deal with the Doctor's nonsense if unnecessary.
In Stars and Time: -5/10 What? You mean he and others have to be honest about their feelings? No way in hell. Zorian would never consider emotions being a necessary component and would make the time loop go even longer for Siffrin. But at the very least Siffrin would have another friend to prevent them from going insane in the isolation of the time loop.
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so, i recently got The Forgotten City because it was on sale, and i just installed it and i'm still in the opening conversation, and this reminds me simultaneously why i hate role-playing games and kind of why i love them, i hate the railroading and pre-chosen possible responses in this conversation (it's not like they're being used for a specific artistic purpose [as far as this opening is concerned, at least, there could be a reveal later that recontextualizes this but even if there is, it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth in the first five minutes of the game in a way that doesn't exactly compel me to keep playing] like in a game like Depression Quest), i wanted to tell her that i don't care about what her name is because like i respect people's privacy and it's her choice not to tell me but the game doesn't give me that option so i can't be nice i just have to either push this random woman's boundaries or be rude act like i don't care because i don't care about her and both of those options suck.
but also, you can just go back through the conversation tree and try other options which is fun and funny to me as like a game mechanic, i just think it's very funny that these people never react when you ask them the same questions. also, i hate her already because like she saved my life which is cool but then immediately after i woke up she's like "i need you to go in there and do something for me" and it's like girl, you could ask a little nicer. like you could at the very least say please or ask me if i want to do that, you opening your conversation with me telling me you need me to do something is like so much all at once. anyway, a lot of thoughts brimming around in my head right now but i'm still not even past the first conversation so here's to hoping this is as good and fun as everybody has hyped it up to be
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emmabeforenone · 4 months
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Hold up, wait!
I'm finally getting around to playing The Forgotten City. Are you telling me a team of three people managed to get a game based on Skyrim (mod) technology to have seamless doors before mega-billionaire corporation Bethesda did in their own games?
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jpdoingvp · 1 year
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The Forgotten City
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Rufius: These so-called ‘feelings’ are ruining my reputation as a heartless bitch.
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rainbowlack · 11 months
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vgadvisor · 2 years
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digital-magus · 2 years
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I've only just started this game but my love for it just got secured.
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wrenhavenriver · 21 days
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When I was serving in the Legion, if there was a mutiny brewing in one cohort, the Legate in charge wouldn’t waste time finding the bad apples among hundreds. They just divided us into groups of ten, made us draw straws, and whoever drew the short straw had to be executed by the other nine. Didn’t matter whether he’d done anything wrong.
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freckled-lili · 5 months
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Absolutely love this game's humor.
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rpgchoices · 1 year
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2022 WRAP UP: Games played this year - useless recs list (with small review, and in vague order of my personal enjoyment):
01. Enderal: It climbed up to become one of my favourite games ever. I played it twice in a row (still finishing the second playthrough), really enjoyed the story, fell in love with the characters and definitely cried. I am reading the novel now.
02. Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous: I love this series of games, Kingmaker is still my favourite, but I loved the story of Wrath so much more. The mystery, the paths, the customizations! The only thing I missed was romance, I still have to find a romance I like and reply is hard because of how long the game is.
03. The Forgotten City: Beautiful adventure game recommended by lairofsentinel, great (basically) detective story. Interesting characters and definitely had a lot of fun trying to find out what the hell was going on.
04. Mass Effect Andromeda: For all the bad rep this game gets, I expected worse? I actually really really enjoy it. The story was nothing too exciting, and many quests were just fetch quests, but I still liked the characters a lot. The feeling of found family? Yes please. Jaal romance? Bring it on.
05. Gamedec: Among the new games that came out in recent years, this has to be one of my favs. The overall story was quite interesting, and the investigation really makes you feel like a detective. My only criticism is that there is little to no customization as by the end of the game you end up levelling up all skills, basically. Still enjoyable and good characters too.
06. Spellforce 3: Soul Harvest: I am at the very last mission. This game is adorable, even if the rpg element is a bit linear. I think, from what I understand, the dialogue choices do not have much impact. Basically, only the romance choice change the plot. Still, the art is very beautiful, the companions lovely and they are also all voiced. The plot was nothing special tho, kinda boring, but I had fun playing minimal Age of Empire tactics alongside the fighting.
07. Hatoful Boyfriend: WHAT TO SAY - this game is a big joke - not in a bad way, just in a "oh my god what am I playing" way. I would definitely recommend it. Do not take the romances seriously, the characters are just parody of usual visual novel romances - but the murder mystery is so eery and absurd!
08. Ash of Gods: I think this game is the better version of Banner Saga. The characters feels more like characters, and the story is a bit less linear and even if sometimes confusing, still enjoyable. For personal enjoyment, I would choose this over other games most times - and I did, I played it three times in a row. I am liking some of the characters so much that I am actually thinking of writing fanfics.
09. Tower of Time: If the ending had been different, this game would be in the top 3. I really enjoyed the plot, the mystery, the way you can explore this fantastical tower - the orcs!! I loved the orcs subplot! But it all comes to a big nothing that left a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth. So - well, fun but disappointing.
10. Boyfriend Dungeon: HEAR ME OUT - this game is a visual novel with hack and slash fighting. The visual novel part is a bit... meh, and the plot is kind of absurd, but I enjoyed the idea of increasing your romance with character by using them to fight. In general I actually enjoyed it even if I won't ever play it again.
11. The Banner Saga: Interesting story, that gets a bit better the more you play. Some characters are pretty good - but generally they are not the main driver of this game. Still, I liked the gameplay enough that I will probably play 2nd and 3rd, even if the plot really did not leave a big impression on me... I barely remember it.
12. The Talos Principle: This game is amazing. The story is so well crafted... my problem is that I am bad at puzzles and easily frustrated. If you like puzzle games, I recommend this one because discovering the plot/lore of the world is amazing.
13. Hades: Okay, this game is great, just not for me. I am not a fan of hack and slash, and I get frustrated pretty easily, so playing the full game multiple times to reach the ending - it gets boring a bit too easily for me.
14. Black Geyser: A classic isometric rpg. I really did want to like it, but somehow... the plot is okay, but the characters are so flat. I felt no real connection to any of them, even the companions who join you end up joining you in such random ways and the ending seemed abrupt. Still if you want an isometric game to play, go for it.
15. Gods will be watching: I am still playing this one and I am eternally confused. The plot is quite interesting and the way the playthrough is incorporated is too, but it also looks quite random - as in there is no exact rule on how to pass every level, but a big level of randomization.
16. A golden wake: I love Wadjet Eye Games and A Golden Wake was one of their older ones that I wanted to play. It was a nice good combination of puzzle and characters, but I did not enjoy the setting too much. I won't probably replay it.
17. Seven: I just started it so I have no opinion yet - a part for the fact that I am somehow very bad at it!
19. Starfighter Eclipse: This is a very very short visual novel/dating sim - the plot is minimal and the romances non existent. It is basically a very short predictable event that allow you to get sex scenes in cut scenes and that is it.
Other games played from Itch.io and in random order:
Brassica: A Marry Tale: Cute AMAZING visual novel, with wlw and mlm content. Unfortunately it is unfinished... but it will be finished! I will wait for the next chapters.
One Night Stand: HORRIBLE. I HATE this game with a passion, because everything in this game seemed to led to crime (you wake up from a one night stand and can't remember anything, and the consent was so iffy, but somehow the game is supposed to be about humans connecting??)
Speed Dating for Ghosts: Beautiful small indie game about meeting different ghosts and going on "dates", mainly dealing with their deaths. I cried at least three times.
A Short Hike: Currently one of my favourite non rpg games. This game was beautiful and so calming. I loved everything about it, and cried a couple of times too. There is so much humor too. I definitely recommend it.
Overland: Fun game where you have to escape zombies. Sad that the characters are not really characters
Arcade Spirits: I am still playing this, sadly I am not big on visual novels. The characters are all interesting so I might try to finish this one.
The corner of SHAME: Games I never finished and never will (maybe).
Greedfall - this game is one of the most boring well packaged game I have ever played Hard West - I did not even... understand the plot Stardew Valley - not for me Wasteland 2 - I expected something completely different and was disappointed Fallout New Vegas - I will definitely play it because of the great recs, but I usually do not like action games of this type Danganronpa Happy Trigger Havoc - not for me
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atanx · 1 year
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ASDFGHJL I-
"Exploration", Steam says. "Atmospheric", Steam says, "Adventure", Steam says-
LISTEN. I walk into this place, there's terrified golden STATUES everywhere, I walk up to one because I want to get a closer look at its hair texture. It's facing upwards.
I blink.
It's fucking STARING INTO MY SOUL.
THIS IS NOT THE FUN EXPLORATION GAME I WAS EXPECTING THIS IS A FUCKING HORROR GAME.
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shiroikabocha · 2 years
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games where the boss fights are philosophical dialogues with god(s)
The Talos Principle: the meaning of one’s existence must be self-defined, and the quest for such a meaning is worthwhile even in an objectively meaningless universe (now go attack and dethrone god)
The Forgotten City: a perfectly-stated, internally-consistent set of ethical principles for human behavior probably doesn’t exist, but that does not absolve people of the responsibility to behave ethically (now go attack and dethrone god)
Disco Elysium: no philosophy exists in a vacuum; the world is complicated and messy and never as beautiful as what you imagine it could be. But to cling to a beautiful, perfect vision of a world that never came to pass is to poison yourself. To deify “the one that got away” is to romanticize failure, to embrace oblivion. It’s no way to live. (now go attack and dethrone your ex-wife, who is Jesus)
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