#wilbur support squad

[alienwithaguitar]

Shelby said a lot during her stream, teetering from honorable to downright strange, and I want to address some of the issues. Before I say anything, I am still supportive of Shelby’s story, but this stream revealed a lot to me. I especially push Shelby supporters to read this, as this stream pushed MANY people I know to a neutral stance.

Shelby claimed having a depressive disorder just involved "feeling depressed", which is a harmful misconception that minimizes our struggles. Depression is more than feeling sad, and is categorized as being "different from regular mood changes and feelings about everyday life." It can involve constant hopelessness, angry outbursts, loss of motivation in most activities, and can lead to fluctuating weights, suicidal ideations, and self-sabotaging. To say "we all feel a little depressed sometimes" is to dismiss the lifelong struggles people with depression go through.

Shelby also implies that people with mental illness cannot change, and that recovery is not possible if your depression has hurt others. Not only is that an incredibly harmful idea to spread, it's blatantly incorrect. Just as habits and thoughts are trained throughout your life, they can also be untrained. There is genuine psychological basis in this, and to say that recovery is impossible is scientifically false. Personalities shift our entire lives, and changes in our physical and mental environments help us train new habits. This is part of the reason we try forming better schedules in new environments, and why a consistently stressful environment can bloom negative habits.

People don't chose to have mental illness, and if you're never taught to handle it, it can be extremely easy to hurt others. The most powerful tool to recovery is believing you can be better, and Shelby telling people to not even try is just enabling self-destructive people to hurt others for the rest of their lives. Change is a long process, but it's absolutely possible- Something as simple as a disruption in your life, a wake up call, and a drive to be a better person are the first steps to kickstarting change.

Shelby’s claims are very strange considering the rest of the stream. Earlier, she went on a rant about content creator’s influence on teenagers. She acknowledged teenagers are impressionable, and that it’s important to take care of those looking up to you. She recognized her fanbase was mainly teenagers, many of whom struggle from mental illness. It feels backwards to emphasize being a good role model before telling thousands of kids that their mental illness makes them a bad person. Her statement was about treating people with kindness no matter what, but she couldn’t keep that energy for people with depression.

Shelby herself was able to find help in therapy, so to deny that others should seek help feels selfish. She also confirmed on stream that she's seen the informative resources people sent her, and that she has ignored them. I can excuse the stereotyping if she's willing to be educated, but she's made it clear she believes she’s right. This is one thing I cannot defend, and I can't forgive her for slandering myself and thousands of struggling teens’ progress to their faces.

One final thing Shelby mentioned was that we should wait for evidence, and it's alright to feel doubtful. I want to revisit her statement with the current evidence we have, that I will take with a grain of salt by her own request. With the proof we have, nothing that Shelby claims comes across as abusive outside of the biting.

Shelby said she would get locked in his house at times. UK houses need a key to unlock the inside, and Wilbur likely only had one. While at his house, Shelby had access to her phone, and there were ways she could communicate with him or call for help if this was a problem. We have no evidence to claim that he trapped her. Shelby also stated her family never met Wilbur, because she had to travel to meet him. It wouldn't be unreasonable to stay in his house for an extended amount of time, and that was entirely her choice. She certainly might have felt neglected, but to claim that it was entrapment is baseless.

Wilbur was also busy with tours, absent nearly 200 days of the year. Feeling lonely makes sense, but raising that as abusive and holding it against him is ridiculous. As a famous musician, Wilbur has obligations that he legally can't drop. This was something she needed to be aware of when pursuing a relationship with him. She's allowed to wish things were different, but genuinely expecting him to abandon his lifelong passion is more than a little strange. This doesn't detract from her feelings, but to hold his legal obligations over his head when she should’ve known he'd be busy is unreasonable.

Shelby has also made a point of publicly shaming his hygiene. The inability to care for yourself and your space is a common symptom of depression. It was kind of her to clean, but her words imply she thinks he's just lazy. She explicitly notes that Wilbur didn’t expect her to clean, but that he waited for her to clean. This is weird to specify, as people with depression typically don't make plans to clean for long periods of time. She likely just assumed his inaction was a sign for her to do it, rather than something he struggled with and had no plans to do anyway. I don't think she was right for shaming his depressive habits, and I don't think he was right for dismissing her help. However, the comments he made about her cleaning very strongly imply that he never had plans to clean either way. This just reads as a choice to help out, not expectation or pressure.

Based on the evidence we have now, the points Shelby made just come across as her dating a mentally ill man and not being prepared for the challenges that come with that. Her family never met him, and he was very busy, so there wasn’t much outside opinion she could get. It's reasonable for her to feel neglected, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was intentional harm. It's important for both parties to get help, to communicate what happened and talk about their feelings. Wilbur stated he was committed to talking with her and addressing her concerns, while Shelby blocked him and refused to communicate, despite telling him she wanted to remain friends. All she's done since is reject his apology (even though he made a statement, not an apology, for legal reasons) and ignore his requests to speak. This avoidance to communicate is likely why the lines of consent and expectation were blurred in their relationship, as they've both expressed an inability to communicate.

This was not written to discredit Shelby's experience, I do believe she has trauma. However, you can absolutely be traumatized by relationships that weren't necessarily abusive. I've experienced years of PTSD from completely fabricated nightmares, and have trauma from repeated hallucinations of my ex. She’s not lying about her feelings- But between the contradictions, refusing to talk with Wilbur about an apology, and the insistence to "communicate” despite the fact that she blocked him, I can't support Shelby's actions.

I will always fight to uplift victims, and I am sympathetic of her story, but I can't defend someone who makes no effort to communicate or educate herself before speaking. Until either of them presents something that is beyond "he said, she said" I will remain neutral. I think they both deserve a chance to change and talk about this privately, and I will be waiting for a better response in the mean time. There was clearly miscommunication, and this was brought to us prematurely (shown by her contradicting statements.) I urge you all to look at the evidence and hopefully come to a similar conclusion. You can feel for someone's experiences and sympathize with their mental state without endorsing them. Stay safe, be kind, and don't jump to any conclusions. 🤍

#wilbur #wilbursoot #wilbur soot #not a wilbur defense post #but its still important to consider #shelby #shubble #shelby shubble #wilbur support squad #shubble support squad #shelby support squad

[thessiasoot]

Why I believe Wilbur Soot

#wilbur support squad #wilbur soot #fuck shubble #wilbur #wilbur situation

[trishzerothree]

Wilbur :D

Little by little my mood is getting better and I can finally draw

#art #drawing #painting #wilbur soot #paint #wilbur fanart #wilbur support squad #wilbur mcyt #wilbur soot support #NPSW

[r0tten-ruzt]

why do you support will? /genq

There's a lot of proof against Shelby really

When she accused him of locking him in his house was when he didn't have a house

There's pictures of wilbur looking drained and bruised when he was with shelby when he was with her but none of shelby

Shelby has been actively anti-recovery saying people never change and also several ableist statements

Shebly Has supported people telling others to do horrible things

Wilburs 'apology' wasn't an apology or admiring anything. He said he was shocked by it and even stated that he thought the biting was consensual which it seemed it was being that shebly said they had a safe word for it

Right before the allegations came out shebly was being accused of being a p3d0 and also at the same time wilburs new single came out which not only might be about her but there's one song where you can hear a voice that sounds like her screaming insults

Shebly constantly milking the situation, dragging it out and actively trying to deplatform wilbur

She said she said at first she 'didn't want to name names' but made it very bloody obvious it was him

The statement from sheblys cousin (idk if it's confirmed yet) saying they witnessed shebly abusing wilbur

How shebly is throwing under the rug the death of what I think to be 6 kids who've taken their lives due to harassment

Some smaller things that threw me off where her saying "this year has been crazy thank you for 1mil subs" and trying to make money out of her new found fame. Also her seemingly ignoring male abuse victims. How many people who were close to wilbur are still following him and probably know something is up but wilbur usually waits until situations calmed down to talk about it. Sheblys very childish behavior in blocking anyone who objects her and brings up asking for proof. Also her blatant naraccistic behaviors.

Also it was unnecessary for shebly to bring up the ant infected house or messy rooms. Messy rooms are caused by bad mental health and ant infections are common in Europe i myself have one in my house as well.

There's sososos so much I could go on about but that's the main stuff of why I support wilbur. She lacks proof and evidence as for wilbur has stayed quiet but has more proof of his innocence. Thank you for the question^^ anymore and ill be glad to answer as well as try to find source material for it if I can find it again (I probably can it's all over wilbur support groups) I apologize for any bad Grammer or misspellings it's very late for me😭😭😭

#wilbur soot #wilbur support squad #dont like dont interact

[sammy-halpert]

Sorry guys, but I choose a side. #WilburSupportSquad

#wilbur support squad #lovejoy wilbur #wilbur soot #lovejoy #lovejoy band

[number1wilburfan]

ppl be like "fuck Wilbur Soot!"

guys, if I could, I would😔

#wilbur soot #wilbur support squad #wilbur soot support

[jeebors]

Edit:

Harassment of any sort, will not be tolerated

@xoxo-ren-xoxo

Shelby words:

Shubble said in her stream she "loosely" called him friend because they didn't really talk to each other than a few exchanges in a group chat. Only did he reach out to her in private Dms after a certain amount of time after he herd she was single. A week or so later in private chats did they started dating.

The screenshot that is provided, proves that they those weren't the only times they've changed. Plus, he didn't @ her in any way, what so ever. Therefore her replying to that was 100% her choice. She even went as fare as to saying she wanted to block Tommy for teasing Wilbur for having a crush on her.

Within here video, it sounds like he wanted to hurt her all along. Which, is not true. Wilbur has said publicly in one of his videos that he has a crush on Shubble.

My thoughts/there's a good chance I'm wrong with this part:

I even boleve one of his songs was a love song to her. Of course, I could be wrong with the [Soft boy] song he made.

Source1: YouTube

Source2: Twitter

#wilbur soot #wilbur support squad #shubble #shubble support

[idealizing-wilbur]

Hi! I’m a Sootling, I go by Nerd or Toxic, my other blogs are anobnoxiousnerd and nerd-alt. I’ve made this blog as a safe space for people to fan over Wilbur, everyone is welcome as long as they’re friendly! Also commenting is encouraged, say whatever comes to mind no matter how minuscule or unimportant you think it is❤️

I am a part of The Sootlings cult, I worship Wilbur Soot. He is our one true god. If you do not respect this you will be blocked. If you’re interested in joining The Sootlings you may message me and I’ll tell our leader.

#wilbur support squad #sootling

[neuvilletteshusbandd]

I need to rant. I need to fucking rant.

(btw tagging this in those tags or anything similar, because I saw a couple of wilbur support tags in the shubble support tag and I fucking hate that so have karma fuckers.)

I was scrolling through Tumblr and I see a #wilbursupport tag. I click it to see what the hell this bullshit might be.

It's fucking disgusting how they responded. A good majority of those members in that hell of a tag brushed off Shubble's fucking statement basically saying they don't care, they still support Wilbur, and will continue to listen to his music. I felt fucking sick, how the hell do you support a man who abused his fucking partner, weaponized a safeword, and was just an overall shitty person? You're just as bad as him for willingly supporting him, KNOWING that he abused Shubble and just sweeping it under the goddamn shitty rug. He was, and is, a horrible fucking person. He did it to Niki Nihachu, and god knows who else and you still have the balls to say "Who cares" and brush it off. You're a shitty fucking person, you don't support victims, you victimize the abuser simply because their your favorite musician / creator / whatever fucking else, and you can't stand to see them be outed as a absolute, downright, scum. MULTIPLE FUCKING PEOPLE, have since come out or have said how Wilbur treated them, their friends, and you still say "Well, I can't just stop supporting him..." YES YOU CAN. YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN STOP SUPPORTING HIM. He's an abuser. He responded, with an absolute shit apology, confirming it. He abused Shubble. You are supporting an abuser. Use your FUCKING BRAIN.

Support Shubble, for the love of everything, support her. Support the victims, support those who speak out against Wilbur, support them. Regardless if you know them or not. She is so brave for speaking out, and I'm inspired by her actions. Seeing that others have spoken out against Wilbur as well is, you can tell she did an amazing thing.

Fuck you William Spencer fucking Gold. Fuck all of you who knowingly support him.

#fuck you wilbur soot #fuck wilbur soot #wilbur soot #wilbur mcyt #fuck wilbur #not putting this in shubble tags #keeping it clean she deserves only nice and kind words #no mention of wilbur in those tags. #if the wilbur supporters want to clog up the shubble support tags take a sip of your own fucking medicine dickheads. #wilbur support squad #Wilbur Support #Normal People Support Wilbur #support wilbur soot #support wilbur

[typicalexofficial]

@shelbygraces you’re aware your community has so far led TWO TEENAGERS to suicide, yes? If that doesn’t say fucked up, I don’t know what does.

#wilbur support squad #fuck shubble #support wilbur soot #innocent until proven guilty

[aquamarine021109]

Redesigned tallulah fanart 😊

Tallulah redesign v1 with dadza hat

Tallulah redesign v2 with beanie

Also I gave her bi-ace flag pins because i headcanon her that and I also gave her a autistic pin because I also headcanon her that.

(Honestly tho, I do like her old design better, probably because I like yellow and red better than purple. And probably because I didn't really want to redesign her just because of how much I like the old design. I kinda felt pressured to redesign her, because I felt like if I didn't redesign her then people would've called me "abuser" or something. Sorry I kinda went on a serious note, I know im gunna get hate for this but all I wanna say is that I support wilbur in getting better.)

(also im pretty sure that shelby is lying because when I looked at old pictures of them when they were dating I didn't see any of the bruises she was talking about. And I noticed that wilbur was the one who had the actual bruises on him, not shelby. And if you want to hate me for that.....then so be it.)

#qsmp fanart #qsmp tallulah with wings and horns #qsmp tallulah fanart #qsmp tallulah #qsmp #philza #mumza #missasinfonia #qsmp eggs #wilbur support squad #support wilbur soot

[thessiasoot]

this was what Shubble war as she was in a relationship with Wilbur Soot. As you can see, there are NO bite marks, bruises, cuts, etc…Many make up experts and other people in jobs specializing in stuff related have already stated that it would be too hard to hide with make up (foundation or any other skin makeups). That is what she said she hid it with.

#wilbur support squad #wilbur situation #fuck shubble #shubble support squad #shubble #wilbur soot #shelby shubble

[trishzerothree]

I'm glad that I found this group, there are very nice people who support me now, I love them

#wilbur soot #wilbur support squad #WilburSupportSquad #Normal People Support Wilbur

[r0tten-ruzt]

Wilbur fanart for your worries<33

#wilbur soot #minecraft #wilbur soot fanart #wilbur support squad #what bursona would this be #sighs #sighs heavily #dont like dont interact

[nixxie-pixxie]

To You, Shelby.

I would like to say, Shelby, you have blood on your hands. Two children kts because of you. Rest in Peace Miles and Aiden.

#rest in peace #fuck you shelby #wilbur support squad #fuck you shelby supporters!!!

[number1wilburfan]

and it looks like Wil's discord administrators have started banning people again. I look at these screenshots and want to laugh at their stupidity. this is just peak idiocy.

especially the cat pfp one, like bro.. 💀

it just looks like a bunch of preschoolers got some power and began to pour shit on everyone around them.

#wilbur support squad #wilbur soot #wilbur soot support #shelby shubble