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Vibrant girl group GFM is gearing up for an extensive Fall tour alongside hard rock heavyweights FOZZY with support from No Resolve. The tour is in support of the band’s Rockfest Records 2022 debut EP “Framing My Perception.” The long run of shows starts in Columbus, OH on September 8th with a pit stop for a massive appearance at Blue Ridge Rock Festival on September 11th. The tour continues with a string of headlining home-state shows in Florida then treks throughout the midwest and east coast until October 10th in Virginia Beach, VA. The band is thrilled to hit the road to show off their sing-along melodies, signature matching outfits, flying cupcakes, and unforgettable stage presence.
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In 2022 the band was discovered by wrestling phenomenon and rock royalty Chris Jericho. This led GFM to their next chapter – a personal invitation from Jericho to join Fozzy on a nationwide tour. With new music hitting the airwaves including their “Framing My Perception” EP and a national Fall Tour on their itinerary, “operation: take over” is in full effect.
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- Oct 06 Harrisburg, PA *
- Oct 07 Poughkeepsie, NY *
- Oct 08 Albany, NY
- Oct 09 Philadelphia, PA
- Oct 10 Virginia Beach, VA
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Word Of Honor - 1st watch insta thoughts - Episode 8
Here's my name overview, in case you're new to this:
Zhou Zi Shu = Baby Sushi, Baby Zi Shu/ Zhou Xu lord guy/alcoholic tanned tragic hero lord guy;
Wen Ke Xing = Smirky Xing/Smirky fan guy/Kissy Xing
Gu Xiang = Purple Girl/my Purple Love/my Purple Queen
Chen Ling = the Kid
Smirklord is my personal ship name for Zhou Zi Shu and Wen Ke Xing.
Also, here are the previous episodes.
And now on to episode 8:
Wow, the kid is introduced to 5 lakes final boss guy who instantly cops a feel. Then tells him that he's not good enough to carry on the family heritage, and then demands the glazed armor. Wow. That is so wrong on so many levels.
Honestly that guy is as much of an ass as a-hole-uncle Shen.
Uncle Zhao is the only nice guy left in the kid's family.
Yay, back to smirklord.
Baby Sushi is being nice to my Queen's fanboy. And Kissy Xing is watching like a hawk, lol.
LOL, fanboy keeps putting his foot in it. My Queen does NOT tolerate misogynism.
Heh, Kissy Xing and my Queen sticking their tongues out at each other like siblings. Why is Baby Sushi reacting like their mom, lol.
K, so my Queen and her fanboy leave to go to Yueyang home base.
And now Kissy Xing is sulking because Baby Sushi treated fanboy guy nicer than him.
Oooh, Baby Sushi calling Kissy Xing out on using my Purple Queen for his benefit. And Kissy Xing says she'll leave and hate him anyway. Aww. I don't want her to leave. I want them to all live together happily forever. (I know it won't happen, but that would be the dream though)
"The fiercest ghosts disguise themselves as humans" - it sounds like Kissy Xing is talking about himself - ghost gang boss and whatnot. But I think, deep down, he's actually talking about trying to weed out the bad seeds amongst mankind, even if he has to be a ghost himself to do so. I can't help believing that he truly truly is a good guy after all.
Back to the kid and... whoa, he's not even allowed to walk back to his room on his own. He's not a guest. He's a hostage. :(
At least TopTap girl is kinda nice to him, showing him around a bit and bringing him to the training ground.
Is he gonna crush on her? Or did he flinch because he simply doesn't like to be touched.
Also there's some really snotty bullies at the training ground. Gossiping about our kid's lack of skills right within earshot. And, I mean, I saw how they "hit" those sand sacks. They are ones to talk, pffff.
Oh, fanboy knows TopTap girl. Right, same sect and everything. Okay, okay. So he's getting my Queen into the sect to snoop around at her heart's desire. Cool.
Hmm, there's a 5 lakes monument, and boss guy wants the kid to worship it. Interesting.
Back to smirklord. Where Baby Sushi is trying to send Kissy Xing off. Aww, he looks devastated at first, but then just decides he won't leave, lol. Nice. Also calls out Baby Sushi following the kid around. And he doesn't even deny it.
Okay, so Window of Heaven is nearby doing... stuff. Like sending off lanterns at daytime. No idea, tbh.
Oh, wow, my Purple Queen is a fast runner. Already back with the boys. And Kissy Xing has no secrets from Baby Sushi. (Or so it seems ;) )
He's calling the kid "the little idiot", and it's cute. He sounds like a dad already.
Ok, so my queen lets the guys in on the monument worshipping thing, and apparently that's a big deal, because Baby Sushi runs off and Kissy Xing follows and doesn't even let her finish.
What does that monument do???
K, so, it's a memorial of those 5 initial guys who formed a brotherly alliance, which then resulted in 5 sects who work together. And the leaders' names are carved into the monument. The kid might become one of them one day.
Why is 5 lakes final boss guy so nice all of a sudden? And did the kid just agree to let him decide who will be the next leader of his sect?
Oh, the pleated skirt soldiers of 5 lakes got overpowered by some masked guys and a pretty guy from Window of Heaven. Ooooooh, is he there to kidnap the kid?
How exactly does 5 lakes final boss guy plan on fighting a bunch of crossbow opponents with just his sword???
Oooooh, smirklord are watching from afar. They better get that kid out of there.
AND KISSY XING JUST REFERRED TO BABY SUSHI AS HIS SOULMATE! Waaaaah. Also offering to die for him. Nice. But, please,... don't.
Whoooooaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!! Our two dads are heroes <3
Okay, so, the kid and 5 lakes final boss guy get to run back home with their pleated skirt soldiers. While the dads interrogate pretty Window of Heaven guy.
woooooh, did pretty guy just recognize Baby Sushi??? :o
Okay, wait, if they're on the same side and pretty guy is willing to do whatever Baby Sushi wants... why did he want him to let the kid go?
LOL, Kissy Xing was actually trying to behave decently and leave, but Baby Sushi completely disregarded his offer to be sent away. Awww
Okay, who is this Duan Peng Ju guy? Is he some 5 lakes boss? Why does he want the glazed armor? And how come, every time some mystery is solved, new questions keep popping up?
LOL, Kissy Xing completely ignores the offer to call pretty Window of Heaven guy by his real name. I feel that. He calls him little master. Cute.
Omg, so much is going on. I can't keep up with all the talking. So, the assumption is that the kid still has a piece of Glazed Armor somehow, and 5 lakes want to get if before the heroes conference.
Cut to some guy in blue.He looks faintly familiar, but I have no idea. Oh, he must be the thief. He's unloading tons of jewelry onto a table.
Huh, how does he have two pieces of glass now? Did Kissy Xing have a piece in his money pouch as well? Or is that from somebody else? And who just opened the door?????
Ooooh, romantic night out with smirklord. Yes! Gimme!
Kissy Xing wants to know the truth about Baby Sushi now. And Baby Sushi feels like he owes him a favor when all Kissy Xing wants is honesty.
Aww, Baby Sushi admits that he simply wanted to save the kid. And then he's turning the tables, interrogating Kissy Xing. Nice. Clever.
Oooh, Kissy Xing admits he showed up at the kid's place for a reason, not by coincidence.
They are so close they could kiss.
Just saying.
Yo, Baby Sushi doesn't want to be fed bullshit. He wants to know the truth because they're friends. And the way Kissy Xing's face falls at that for a second is priceless.
OMG, is he actually telling him to be more than friends? WHAT?
Now he LITERALLY called him his soulmate, waaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!! He's so whipped. (how did this pass censorship?)
Ouch, somebody knocked out thief guy. Ah, no, poisoned him, they say. Anyway, he's done.
Wait, was the glass poisoned? No, that couldn't be, could it? Then it would still be there. And the door wouldn't have opened on its own.
LOL, Kissy Xing on the market street is like a kid in a candy store. And Baby Sushi is paying for everything, because he's a whipped sugar daddy. Even if he doesn't admit it to himself, lol.
Whoa, Kissy Xing with all the indecent offers. No shame. Wow. He literally said "Just let me spend your money" and "I'll listen to your command" -and it is NOT lost on Sugar Daddy Sushi, although he tells Kissy Xing to stay away. But, let's be real, that's not gonna happen.
There's a circus in town. hmm. OMG, they're on a date.
Sugar Daddy Sushi points out the zither of one of the musicians. What about it? Is it like the music assassin's? I don't get it. (also, side note, it’s not actually a Zither at all, which would be a Guqin, it’s a type of mandolin, which is a Liuqin, but... whatever, probably translation mistake)
Kissy Xing is SO enthralled in the show. He's really like a little kid. He's adorable.
Oh, so much is happening. Heads dropping from a box. It's the ghost gang!
Nice! I mean, scary, but also cool. Is this what Kissy Xing had planned?
Okay, so... this was the ghost gang putting Yueyang sect in their place. Showing them who's boss and who's got the upper hand. Got it.
Kissy Xing wants to go back to the kid. I'm with him. That's a good idea. Yeah.
Alright the entire Yueyang gang is now talking and lamenting this Junior Wei guy. I'm not sure if he was one of the ones who stood next to the box when the heads dropped, i.e. one of the suspects, or one of the actual heads. Probably a head, right? Was he the guy from celebrity deathmatch? Anyway, Yueyang is pissed and want revenge.
Okay, so Sugar Daddy Sushi and Kissy Xing are at the Youyang place, greeted by uncle Zhao and buttface Uncle Shen. And nobody even bats an eye at Sugar Daddy Sushi having cleaned up so nicely. That's weird.
Ooooh, rude-guy uncle Shen accuses our boys of theft, because they left without a word right as the Glazed Armor piece was stolen.
At least uncle Zhao is nice and apologizes.
And now grumpy 5 lakes final boss guy shows up. And Kissy Xing asks him if... he recognizes Kissy Xing? Should he recognize him? I guess he should. Kissy Xing looks a bit disappointed when he says he doesn't know him. And Sugar Daddy Sushi seems to think so as well.
Okay, what? The kid's not feeling well and they can't see him? That sounds fishy.
Now they wanna know who Kissy Xing's dad was,and, while he says he's already dead and a nobody while alive, I don't believe it.
And now a corpse was found, right before they end the episode. And all without revealing whose corpse and where and why and how it died. Waaaaah!!!!!
What I learned in this episode: There's a whole lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. Mostly Kissy Xing scheming. And I have no idea what's coming. The kid NEEDS TO BE SAVED, omg. Get him out of there. Maybe Uncle Zhao as well, because he's nice, but I'm guessing he's gonna die at some point, because usually the nice guys die first.
Goals for future episodes: Same old, same old, find out how Kissy Xing and Sugar Daddy Sushi are connected. Also, understand the bigger picture, like find out what Window of Heaven is planning, also who’s who in the ghost gang and are they genuinely all on the same side (because it doesn’t feel like it). And, will I EVER make that mind map character chart thing???
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山河令 Word of Honor ep.08: when Wen Kexing finally get Zhou Zishu to smile ❤️
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[id: two gifs from the cdrama “the untamed”, showing nie huaisang’s first and last chronological appearance. in between the gifs i added the colour palette that i used for these gifs. they are two shades of light grey, a shade of each light green, dark green, and dark grey. 1st gif: episode 4. nie huaisang puts his right index to his lips and shushes wei wuxian who is off screen. for a moment meng yao, who is standing behind him, is in the frame, too. 2nd gif: episode 50. nie huaisang bids farewell to lan wangji and wei wuxian who are both off screen. opening his fan he turns around to leave. /end id]
聂怀桑 NIE HUAISANG — first and last chronological appearance
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[id: three gifs from the cdrama “word of honor” (2021), episode 30, all showing the scorpion king. his hair is braided into 7 french braids, held together at the back of his head by a jewelled silver ornament. he wears black clothes. the background is edited into a soft green. all of the gifs are close shots of xie’er going from surprise and shock in the first one one to anger in the second one to sadness and acceptance after zhao jing slapped him in the face and called him an ‘evil creature’. /end id]
《山河令》 Shān Hé Lìng (2021) Ep. 30 ⨳ 蝎王 Scorpion King
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[id: 6 gifs from the cdrama “the untamed”. the background is a soft purple. a scene in episode 24 between jiang yanli and wei wuxian in lotus pier. 1st gif: yanli asks with a surprised expression, ‘why suddenly ask that? do you have someone in heart?’. 2nd gif: wei wuxian quickly says, ‘no, no, no, shijie. i haven’t got one.’ 3rd gif: wei wuxian admits, ‘at least... no need to like a person that much.’ 4th gif: wei wuxian continues, ‘wouldn’t that be like putting a noose around one’s own neck?’ a scene in episode 36; wei wuxian at lan wangji’s bed. 5th gif: he smiles at lan wangji and leans closer. then the camera cuts to the sleeping lan wangji. 6th gif: wei wuxian smiling, then bearing a pensive expression, as if he is considering something. in between the gifs fragments of the poem ‘salt’ by salma deera are scattered; together they read: ‘in front of my mother and sisters, i pretend love is cheap and vulgar. i act like it’s a sin- i pretend that love is for women on a dark path. but at night i dream of a love so heavy it makes my spine throb- i dream up a lover who makes love like he is separating salt from water.’ /end id]
Salma Deera, “salt”
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Gorgeous Wide Shots from 晴雅集 The Yin-Yang Master: Dream of Eternity (2020)
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[id: three gifs. 1st gif: a scene from the cdrama “guardian” from episode 23. a shot of zhao yunlan and a shot of shen wei are blended together. yunlan’s expression is shocked and confused. shen wei’s eyes are glassy and red from crying. he looks at yunlan, looking into his eyes, then to his lips, then to his eyes again. there’s a simple text in white caps in the middle reading “you are worth it”. the same phrase is spelt out in the background in hanzi. 2nd gif: the jinlintai scene from the cdrama “the untamed” from episode 42. also two shots blended together, this time of lan wangji and wei wuxian. the look at each other, both smiling lovingly. wuxian also first looks into wangji’s eyes, and then at his lips. simple text in white caps in the middle reading “lan zhan ah lan zhan”. the same phrase is spelt out in the background in hanzi. 3rd gif: a scene from the cdrama “word of honor” from episode 32. the scene at the cliff. it starts with only wen kexing in the frame. zhou zishu walks towards him and stops right in front of him. they look at each other with deep affection. simple text in white caps in the middle reading “you are mine”. the same phrase is spelt out in the background in hanzi. /end id]
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2021: Drama Rankings - In Progress Shows
Stranger 2 (2/16)
Year: 2020
Country: Korea
Platform: Netflix
Look, I know this one is going to be good. I just know it. The whole cast of season one has returned and I cannot *wait* to see Lee Joon Hyuk be an absolute cockroach of a terrible human being. Bae Doo Na and Jo Seung Woo are also amazing and season one was so, so good, riveting and gripping. I watched the first two episodes and know we are going to be in for the same in this one. However, I just haven’t been in the right mood to immerse myself in it just yet. So I’m waiting for the right time, hopefully sometime next year.
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Today's face studies from "Killer and Healer". One of Boss Yu's Boyfrenemy (aka Mr Suspicious Guy), and the rest of Boss Yu. I call this sequence, "In which Boss Yu discovers that he was not prepared for the consequences of his actions".
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Started watching "Strangers from Hell" yesterday. I'm abut halfway through ep 2 now. I know nothing about the show or story, and am not even sure at this point what direction it's gonna go. It almost feels like there could be a supernatural element (with the whispering and dream sequences) but it could also very well not be that at all.
(side note, I probably will not be doing drawing studies from this show, at least not at this time. Not feeling good about my drawing at all right now in general)
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Today's face studies are from "Killer and Healer". I'm only a handful of episodes in but it seems like it could be an interesting show. Also looking forward to seeing one of the supporting actors in particular, as he's someone I've drawn in these studies months ago.
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Finally got through enough of the Shadowlands intro to meet this guy and decided to draw him last night.
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Today's page if face studies from "Killer and Healer". I just can't stop drawing Boss Yu. Up to episode 31 now.
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Transcript - Time Talks Ep 40 - Melancholy Joy Mixtape ft. carla joy bergman
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SUMMARY KEYWORDS
song, melancholy, music, joy, talking, people, melancholic, love, feel, listening, thought, big, play, life, hear, playlist, sad, carla, called, sole
SPEAKERS
Tracy Chapman, Pet Shop Boys, Holy Cole, Sade, Burial, Final Straw Podcast, Bobs Your Uncle, Sole, Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush, SBTRKT (feat. Sampha), Chris, carla, Andre 3000 - Me&My, Time me, Jason/Maudlin Magpie & produced by A Thousand Vows, chris, Juice WRLD, Nat King Cole., Organized Konfusion
chris time steele 00:04
Welcome to Episode 40 of the time talks podcast part of the channel zero network. This episode I'm joined by another channel zero network member. My wonderful friend carla bergman. carla is co-author of Joyful Militancy with Nick Montgomery. carla edited the book Radiant Voices and put together the Emma Talks series, and collaborated on the work Pandemic Solidarity. Along with being an author carla is a filmography checkout joyful threads productions. On top of that, check out the podcast carla collaborates on. There's the Silver Threads podcast and the Grounded Futures podcast. These links are in the show notes. For this episode, we had a conversation and put together a playlist on the topic of melancholy joy, sharing some of our stories and the ways we use music to navigate life and living. Thank you to Awareness for the music and here's a brief jingle from a fellow channeled zero network member.
Final Straw Podcast 00:59
The final straw is a weekly anarchist radio show. It's fucking awesome and you're never gonna hear me say fucking awesome on our show. Because we're FCC regulated, there's a black part of my heart that that just flutters when you when you talk like that. Talk, then more yelling. it's a weird sort of like nice thing in a way but also can get kind of crushing at times the finalstrawradio.noblogs.org
chris 01:32
I just wanted to begin and say that you're a wonderful writer, poet, curator, conductor, filmographer, author, revolutionary, Joyarchist, artist, kinetic thinker and so much more and just wanted to thank you for doing this Melancholy Joy Mixtape. I was wondering if you could kind of open with what you kind of frame what melancholy joy is? Because when you first mentioned it to me, just the phrase put together a lot of things that in a way that I like sad music and how sad music brought me relief, and how I've been attracted to two minor notes and all that and just the vibe so I really meant a lot to me when you mentioned it to me.
carla joy bergman 02:14
That's really nice. It's an honor to be here. Thank you. And I would repeat all that back to you, that you are too - kinetic thinker and Joyarchist, and all that.. thank you means a lot. I'm a bit nervecited as the My Little Pony say, Just give me a second. Yeah, if it's okay if I can give a little bit of a historical story around it because it like everything with me and always has this like, aha moment. So similar. I've always been attracted to sad music. And it was actually we have a radio station in Canada, that's, I guess, a public radio called CBC and did really good shows on it. And there was an episode on this idea of melancholy music, and so I was what's that? And of course, they talked about Joni Mitchell a lot, a Canadian sweetheart. And I was like, yeah, that's real. And they had said the person I can't even remember who was on probably a musician in Canada, but they said, you know, melancholy just means a thoughtful sadness. And I was like, Oh, yeah, that's what I am. I'm like, thoughtfully sad. But as time went on, I went through just stuff that was happening on the global like, collective grief 911 happened, some other stuff, some personal stuff. I really noticed that through all my sad periods of time, I always had a belly full of joy. Best way to describe it, I just, Joy's just really, really big in me. So I thought about a decade later, I I think I tried to create a handle on Twitter, melancholy joy, but I had done a few forums, online forums... And a part of it was because, I had a bit of a judgment that if you weren't melancholic, you weren't paying attention to the world, and but that you could still have a thriving life. So it has a kind of a political resonance to it like it will not even it went beyond music. The story moves into militant joy, because militant, to me is more has more power, I guess, or more collective power. It's more active than melancholy. But the pandemic hit again, or hit and melancholy really resurfaced in my life. Collectively, I could feel that collective grief. And I was just really attracted again to listen to melancholy joy music and, really listening to your album that you put out this year. reignited that again in me and I think that's why I said sent it to you because I was like, Oh, this is melancholy, joy, music, then your newest one that you've put out.
chris 04:44
Thank you so much. That's so kind. And I also see the phrase you use of melancholic hope. And that's a really powerful word too. And I think that's kind of what you find in the melancholy joy is this hope of kind of listening to sad music or music that helps you reflect and re energize yourself again, and there's a hope in melancholy, of just even being able to verbalize or feel that you're melancholic is the hope because you're able, then you're reflecting and saying, like, I'm sad, I have sadness and anger. And I'm able to work with those now, and kind of water those seeds to work through problems. And I think that's one thing that music does so well.
carla 05:30
Yeah, I love that. Nick Montgomery, who co wrote joyful militancy started talking about Empire and joy, and our book, using music as an example. And that Empire has this really loud music that's really loud and drowns everything else out. And when I started, when you asked me to do this show, I was like, Oh, I wonder how melancholy joy music fits into disrupting that, because one of the things that I added to the conversation was that it's, the problem is listening. It's not so much that it's louder. I think that we, all the other music or other sounds are the other ways of talking with each other is there, it’s present. And there's something about that melancholic hope, like you say that it's there. Like the possibilities are there, the seeds are there, and they just need us to water them, as you so graciously said to me once, that I loved. Yeah, so yeah, I love that.
chris 06:23
Yeah, what you say of how it's there. That's really, I feel the explanation and so hard to explain it with melancholy joy in those terms, like it's something that's there, it's something you can feel, and it's like a vibe, and joyful militancy. I really liked the quote from Glen Coulthard. When you mentioned you all had mentioned that he put his finger on something of sadness and anger and how they often stem from love. And just a little bit of this quote is: "I think that for the somber, melancholic militant, I get it, I understand it, how could you not be, and this is my point, the only way you respond to the world like that is because of some base sort of individual and collective self respect, some love for oneself and others, were the land that you are being violated in a profound way. This produces melancholy, anger, whatever, they're not separable." And I really thought that that whole quote is just powerful. And for anyone who has a book, it's on page 175. So there's no citation violations there.
carla 07:27
Nope. You can also get the book for free online.
chris 07:32
Yeah, I wanted to. I really thought that that quote was, he added more to this conversation too.
carla 07:38
Thanks for finding it. I need to put his whole interview up. It's so incredible.
chris 07:43
That'd be awesome.
carla 07:44
Yeah, that's really good. Because we interviewed him, obviously, because he talks about resentment and anger so much. And it was, like affirmative theory. It includes anger and rage. It's not negation, right, like, negation something else. And so I, thank you for bringing him in. Because I think that's a really important distinction about where melancholy fits into the conversation right now. I worked really hard to not be a melancholic person. So it's like dang, it's back again.
chris 08:17
Well, yeah, I hope it's like a productive melancholy joy. I mean, that's what I wanted. That's what I really felt with this mixtape. And then it brings up deeper discussions on our end. And, feelings and, and just other reactions that I feel are productive in thinking deeper about society. And a lot of these things are produced from such a disgusting messed up society, at least with my picks that helped me find ways to navigate through these parts of society. So before we start, I was just going to just give a little intro on why I picked these, a whole foundation of how I picked them. And I just wanted to say that I framed how I picked my choices with assuming that there's a lot of nuances and and I'm sure that's why you picked yours as well, that they have nuances that they're not just the songs but they relate to life, your life and timeline. And I picked these songs for a few reasons. For one, they may sound like they're more melancholy songs, but they bring joy and solace. They are often songs I go to when I feel no more hope or little hope, songs I go to, to recharge, to recalibrate, to keep reminding myself that I'm not going to feel this way forever. And along with these choices, when I'm stressed I often find I get attached to a song and it becomes my crutch. I don't know if you're that way. They become my friend when I'm lonely and alienated, usually from work and ironically self imposed isolation that I often do unknowingly and then realize ...these were also songs that were some of my only friends during tough times that helped me build me back up again. Hopefully they can be tools for others and spark other discussions, another playlist like this.
carla 10:02
Oh, that's really beautiful. Thank you. Yeah, definitely some of that. For me the friend part for sure. The helping me move through like, I think melancholy is something that is imposed on us from the conditions of the world we're living in. And I think joy maybe is something that's within us that we can... Ursula Le Guin in the dispossessed talks about it as something that you can't control at all, It just will come in and do its thing and leave. I just really love that distinction. It was the seed for me thinking about joy differently. So yeah, when I think with my playlists, there's a couple things. I physically get affected when I'm sad. So my body gets, I get sick. I can't move. So for me, music has to have an element that makes me move. And I think that joy moves - when I move it moves with me or it moves first. I don't know what you know, is what comes first. But the music definitely, because thinking about like, part of whether it's collective or individually, like we try to find some harmony, and you think about that in terms of music, right? Like, what is that about? Like, what was that? What are we looking for ourselves, when we're not doing well, when were depleted and stagnated? and sad? Yeah, so I think that, that played like a role. I also thought about my personal journey in terms of finding freedom within myself. From stagnant music, what do you call it? First Family, our family of origin stuff that I needed to get away from some of those songs are about that and becoming a parent. I have like a definitely a theme of Don't tell me what to do. And I don't want to grow up. I think all of that kind of fits in. And it's kind of covering up Mushishi
chris 11:49
Yeah
carla 11:49
Because it's connected. I have a question for you before we maybe share playlists but I was rewatching Mushishi, maybe you can explain what Mushishi is after people need to but just google it. It's an animation. It's beautiful. Zen Buddhist healer Guy Ginko. But one of the episodes was about I think it's like the second or third one of the first season. I'm not gonna go into details of it because it's a small part of the story but Mushi comes in... mushi are these things that are not human, they are not fauna or flora, they're in between. And it comes into when there's no sound around. It burrows into the human's ears and eats their sound. I don't know if you remember that one. But, so it made me think about like, what is my sound? because I think this is connected to what music I'm drawn to. Because maybe that counterpoint or, or where's the harmony, from my sound to the sound from music. And in the show the woman who talks about it, her sound is lava, which is really intense sound to have to live with, holy. I asked my friend in Japan if it's a Japanese thing, and she said it's not but maybe regionally. I tried to find it, but there's probably not an English translation for it. But it feels pretty human. Like, I think it's pretty pan human probably that we can think about this. So I was thinking about like, my sound feels like if I feel into it, it's like the wind is collaborative. It's like the wind off of like a soft ocean, but it it has to go up into the trees too, like it's like this.woosh woosh. So when I thought about all the music I picked, I could hear it, I could feel it in it. So I'm curious if you've ever thought of that? Do you have a sound?
chris 13:34
That's an awesome question. I love the wind that you're talking about. The wind. I like wind in music. Sometimes I hear that a lot like Kate Bush's music, she creates these atmospheres. And a lot of her songs are about the mountain to go on top of the mountain. I would say a sound that I really resonate with is something I resonate most with is rain. So in a lot of my lyrics I'll use different words for rain like the typewriter rain tapped on the roof or the Fred Astaire rain or something like I'm always trying to get back to rain and I find it comforting and I live in a desert in so called Denver so we don't get a lot of rain. And, I also I like water too, sounds of water I find that calming, in Mushishi really has its soundtrack is very calming to the Anime. And I think it's the episode you're talking about when the mushi is in the pillow and going into people's ears, and the mushi turns into almost like conjis and it's dancing and going into people's ears or something. That one is so powerful. And one thing I really like about Ginko is he kind of does this mutual aid where he's going around town to town just helping people in educating and he's very introverted, he's not the most outwardly kindest person but Ginko has so much love in him. He just has a different way of his love language speaking.
carla 14:20
Yeah, everyone should watch Mushishi, or read the manga because they're equally as good if you need books.
chris 15:08
So good. Yeah, I love it.
carla 15:11
Yeah. And I think, yeah, we could we could do a whole show on Ginko
chris 15:16
That would be great.
carla 15:17
Because, ok just real quick the thing I always tell people why they should watch it is because there's no there's no judgment on the mushi or on the person who has it. The only judgment really is the people who don't help the person who's not well, that's the only time I see Ginko get upset with somebody is when they've done the wrong thing in terms of helping somebody, like they've judged them or something. And we could just all embody a bit of that we'd have a better world. You know?
chris 15:42
Yeah, I love that. I love that interpretation.
carla 15:45
Also, I need to say because any of my friends who are listening in family, I need to respond and say that rain is like, my favorite thing in the world. I did a whole project called rain. It stood for radical art in nature.
chris 15:58
I love that
carla 16:02
Yeah. rain is and I live in a rainforest. So I get a lot of rain. Yeah. So much of my son's music, Zach's music has rain in it. I am with you on that one.
chris 16:12
That doesn't surprise me. We have so many commonalities.
carla 16:15
I know.
chris 16:16
So I'm gonna start with Bob's, Talk to the Birds by Bob's Your Uncle.
carla 16:22
Okay, so this came out in 1985. I was living in so called Victoria, which is like the capital of British Columbia. And I was 18 just going on 19 and I hung out at a punk bar. With all the punk bands that played there that came through No means No, Dagloabortions, a lot of local people, but also Black Flag came through and so on and so forth. And when Bob's your Uncle came through, it was so exciting. First of all, a woman front person was really quite rare. A woman of color was even more rare in punk. And they were just they talk about joy, but it was also about feeling alienated as young people and poor people. And so it had that melancholic energy to it. And I bought their tape and I had a little yellow Walkman and I played it so much that it died. And she's at she's went on Sook Yin Lee has gone on to be she was like a vj for Much Music, which is the Canadian version of MTV which was really big back, and she was in Shortbus the movie. Now she's on CBC and does other stuff but yeah, I talked to birds I still do. I still talk to the birds.
Bobs Your Uncle 17:35
SONG: Talk To The Birds
chris 21:12
I love that song. When I heard this song, it really made me think just like the rebelliousness of school at first. Kind of imagine the teacher and then ditching class and then getting your real class from talking to some birds, or your real education from leaving school and going into nature. Also thought of it as an overarching ideology as well.
carla 21:40
Oh, yeah, say more
chris 21:42
Or just, they'll tell you, they tell you to do this, they say do this. But usually everything that they tell you to do with an ideology or hegemony is some form of coercion to get you to start renting somewhere, because you need to have all of these things, but you have to sell your time and your body for money. And people will tell you, well, if you don't have enough money, ideology, and capitalism says well get two jobs, you know, and they are always telling you something that's going to lead to more coercion instead of any form of liberation.
carla 22:19
Yeah, they're really fun. People should look them up. They have this one song. If I knew baking a cake or something. It's probably a cover. If I knew you were coming I’d have baked a cake. You know that song?
chris 22:30
Oh, yeah.
carla 22:31
Yeah, they do it really well
chris 22:33
Anything else you want to add on that song?
carla 22:36
Oh, just I mean, I think like, the big thing was that they were just, it was just really great to encounter them during a time when punk was really important to me. But alongside that in a city that racism is really, really ramped. I was just everywhere, Victoria is very British. Like you cannot always tell the difference between the skinheads and the punks. So I don't know. They were just really great.
chris 23:02
That's awesome. Thank you for showing me their music. Okay, so this song is by Organized Konfusion. Who is Prince Poetry and Pharoahe Monch. And they're, they're an older group. And Pharoahe Monch has turned out to be one of my favorite lyricists when I got older. And Prince Poetry was amazing. And this song is probably one of my biggest go tos when just feeling down or, or depressed or existential. Yeah, that song is just really deep. And it talks about these two fetuses inside of their mother. And they're kind of just rapping about life.
Organized Konfusion 24:07
SONG Invetro
carla 24:33
I love that one really speaks to that power of the joy. You know? Despite everything, be curious and dream. I Love it. And it also makes me want to move, which is like my criteria for melancholy joy music.
Chris 27:44
It's a great beat. I love it. And one of the lines that when I was re listening to this song is by Prince poetry, he says, “overshadowed in darkness where curiosity is my light.” And I just love that bar so much. And it reminded me of our conversation. But like the deeper, like a deeper meaning to this song is I don't know, it just makes me think about mortality a lot. And when my mom was pregnant with me, she smoked. And the whole time I resonated with what Pharoahe Monch was talking about. And he was born with asthma, actually. And I think he struggles with that during shows but is an amazing performer. And then another thing is when my mom I think was about eight, nine months pregnant, she fell down the stairs. And she landed on her stomach. And she was bleeding profusely and she was crying. She's freaking out. She went to the hospital. And the doctor told her that her baby was dead, which was me. And she needed to have it removed. And she was just in shock. So she left the hospital and was like, oh, I'll deal with this tomorrow. And then when she went back to her own doctor, they were like, No, your baby's alive has a heartbeat. So it must have been knocked out or something. I don't know.
carla 29:15
Wow, that is beautiful.
chris 29:17
Yeah. crazy story.
carla 29:21
So my mom was told that I wasn't gonna I was dead too. I wasn't gonna live.
chris 29:26
Wow. And
carla 29:30
yeah. She didn't have an accident. I was like, it was just, it was a situation and during labor. And they had to make a decision to save her or me, they chose her because obviously she had four children.
chris 29:44
Wow. Amazing. Thank you for sharing that story. That's so powerful
carla 29:50
Well same, I guess we really needed to be here.
Chris 29:55
Yeah,
carla 29:55
or wanted to be here
chris 29:56
Alright, so I'm going to play the next song, which is Don't Give Up by Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush.
carla 30:03
I mean, first of all, that hug in the video, just the beauty of the like friendship that they have for each other and the intimacy that's just so pure. I tried to post it early on in the pandemic, because I was like, Who else needs to see this all the time? But I kept getting taken down because I didn't have rights to it. But, yeah, it's kind of like an ethos that's run through my life. I even had a campaign during the Thistle days that I went around to all the schools me my friend, I probably shouldn't say whatever, it doesn't matter. We had stickers that said, don't give up quit. Because to me, it's like part of not giving up is not giving up on yourself. And so that means you sometimes gotta quit a whole pile of things. Especially with young people I like to frame it that way. And yeah, this song just when I'm at my like, lowest lowest point I always go to it I mean, I Gabriel is just so important when I was a teen and Kate Bush especially later on... also other people who have performed it with it. I loved it too like Paula Cole, who was his backup singer for years and then went on to her own career. Yeah, just, it's just a it's a it's a love story about friendship. I think a lot of people think it's about a romantic relationship but I mean she she even talks about like what your your your friends we have you we got you, you know? Yeah, somebody on the brink helped remember that friends. It's so good.
Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush 31:30
SONG: Don't Give Up
37:22
Yeah, I love this song
chris 37:24
Yeah, I love this song and I really hadn't really heard it much until you had mentioned it to me. And I've been listening to it all week. And yeah, you're right. It's like a love story about friends. So cool and people need to hear those words don't give up but they also need to hear you worry too much. Just move on with it. So those messages
carla 37:48
Yeah, and on a personal trajectory like that last part. When Gabriel goes into the big reveal walking across the bridge like that. I listened to that probably on repeat when I was making the decision to leave my family behind. And like I would put it on my headphones and walk over these bridges. Like, act it out, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. So yeah, just like finding belonging. They talked about that in the song. It's so powerful. And what gets me is that it is still powerful, you know, after all these years, because it's speaking to our alienation from each other. And
chris 38:28
Yeah, that's how you know, it's, it's so real. I think another thing really cool about Kate Bush, and she actually incorporates her family a lot in her music. You know, her son was the one who encouraged her to go back into performing live again. And then she has him on her last live album. He's singing like three different songs with her. And I didn't know he was the one who made her start doing live shows again, and his voice is awesome, too.
carla 38:55
Thanks for sharing that I had no idea about that. And of course, as you know, I collaborate with my kids so that..my eldest had everything to do with helping you pick out this list.
chris 39:07
Exactly. It made me think about that.
carla 39:09
And that's really nice. And he's actually a huge Kate Bush fan bigger than me, so that's really nice. I wonder if he knows he probably does. Sole actually texted me the other day and said, it must be amazing to collaborate with your kid like, holy shit.
chris 39:26
This song is by Andre 3000 from OutKast, and he's taken a big hiatus, aside from doing features and stuff. He's been just learning to play the clarinet and diving into jazz more, but he came back and did this song, I believe with James Blake, who did the piano and the song is another song that I go to. It's a heartbreaking song called Me and My To Bury Your Parents.
Andre 3000 - Me&My 40:05
SONG: Me and My
carla 43:48
I had never heard that song until I saw your list and it's really sad. But also has this thread of like I can feel the light in it , and the joy. I mean, personally, it may not think about my parents, but it made me think about my eldest brother who died. Who was like my... there's the chorus of me and my and my and they don't say, he doesn't say anything else. Oh, yeah, that.
Chris 44:14
Yeah. And when you mentioned that, I noticed today that he goes, me and my mother. At the end, he goes, me and my mother, me and my father, me and my, me and, and then me as he ends it, and I had never noticed that breakdown until today. It was like, gave me goosebumps.
carla 44:36
Totally.
chris 44:37
Yeah, and it's such a heartbreaking song. But yeah, you're right. It has this joy in it. It has this nostalgic joy of even though, you know, he had to bury his parents. He has these memories and he has love with them. And as we talked about, time not being linear, so much. That's the beauty of nostalgia and the beauty of music that can conjure those time frames.
carla 45:01
You have an album called Newstalgia, did you come up with that?
chris 45:05
Like at the time I thought I did, but I don't know if I really did. Because I think there's even a producer or a rapper that goes by the name Newstalgia
carla 45:13
Right. Well, first of all, I heard it. And what I liked about it, I think there's an eagle right over my head. PS like, five inches. Okay, we talked about this a lot on this Silver Threads podcast, because I'm really interested in like, grabbing stuff from like, from the past and the future. But making sure we weave it into right now in the present. And newstalgia just captures that in a way that I hadn't really, I didn't have a word for it. I was just like, grab the thread from there and there and make a thing. And that's what I hear in the song. It's really great.
chris 45:56
Yeah, that was my exact thought with the album. I was like, I’m such a loser. I'm always like, with nostalgia. I'm always going towards it. It's like, but you have to love the present too. And I was like, what if I you know, the present could feel like nostalgia. If you were making those, those memories and those feelings and feeling them as nostalgia feels in the present. I feel there's a danger of just going to nostalgia all the time.
carla 46:24
Totally. Yeah.
chris 46:25
At least for me.
carla 46:26
Same, that's where depression links. lingers. Yeah.
chris 46:32
Okay, we're going to go to Fast Car by Tracy Chapman
carla 46:36
We won't play this whole song.. cry. Well, first of all, Tracy Chapman is like, where I really learned my politics. You know, like, you know, I grew up in around a lot of punk music and stuff, but I have a joke where like, there's sex pistol anarchism, and then there's anarchism, right? Or anti authoritarianism or whatever. Anyways, Tracy is like her music just educated me in a way that the other punk didn't - she's just incredible. I saw her live. It was like the best thing ever, outside... And this song as someone who grew up pretty poor in a dysfunctional home and when I met my partner like it's just our song just everything about it. And you know, it is our trajectory like if he could just like give me the foundation I will take us places kind of thing and even after it's been moving together over 30 years and we still like hear it and go it's feels like yesterday, but we had to take this leap of faith together and run away or run towards joy in our life and yeah, it's just I think it's like a pinnacle melancholy joy song because it's a lot of loss wrapped up in it but it's also about freedom and liberation and finding your way.
Tracy Chapman 48:37
SONG Fast Car
chris 52:00
I love that song. The way that she goes from narration to heart so effortlessly is just amazing. I love the lyrics so much. And I was wondering when you said that, along with punk because I know you have a history with the punk scene, the different branches that Tracy Chapman gave you maybe with like a political vocabulary or outlook?
carla 52:26
Right, I mean, I guess it was just, you know, to borrow the phrase intersectionality I mean, that it had also had especially to that album, like it had a lot about forgiveness on it and love. And yeah, finding the path towards liberation versus just always in fighting against or negation. And that was something I really needed. You know, early on, when my brother was into punk, I used to say, I don't know how you can listen to this. It's just all negative. And like, No wonder you're depressed all the time. Like, you know, I listened to The Police instead. This is like 77/78. So finding her like she had that kind of like, you know, things are bad. Call things what they were, she was, you know, obviously, pointing out the horrors of the world. But within this framework of a container of like love and kindness, forgiveness, that was really beautiful. Like the other song on the album, though. Chris, my partner, when I met him he had played on the guitar. Three of the songs he played and sang.
chris 53:35
No way. That's awesome.That's so cool.
carla 53:40
I don't know. What about you?
chris 53:42
When I first heard this song, it really brought out a lot of the just the stories that you don't often hear about, of a really just class issues. And of course, race and white supremacy tied into these. But when you hear the the one that really resonates with me is the man who was drinking becauses his body, he felt had no more use, but his he was much too young for how his body looked... that's so powerful, just that, that phrasing of the way that she took it. And it really just made me think of when I worked in the Union. I worked in the stagehands Union for a while, right before COVID or year before COVID. And I was on the carpet duty which was a horrible thing. So I would lay miles of carpet a day in the convention centers for Comic Cons and stuff. And these guys that I worked with that had been there for years, they could only be comfortable when they were laying carpet when they were trying to walk out to the light rail station, it brought them horrible pain to walk and they had their legs had so much arthritis and stuff and these guys weren't even that old. It really, that lyric really resonated with me when I heard this again.
carla 54:56
Yeah, yeah, the working class stuff was really. It's a big part of why that song works for us.
chris 55:03
Do you want to add on this?
carla 55:06
Just that it had the theme of finding belonging again, which was like oh, there's that that's probably what's underneath all of my play song
chris 55:14
this story behind this song too, that you shared. So I'm gonna play the next song is miserabilism by Pet Shop Boys
Pet Shop Boys 58:12
SONG: Miserabilism
chris 59:20
The way I got into this song was actually when I started working from home during COVID. I've been laid off from my other job, and I started at the call center job I was talking about. And this was like a hellacious job in between calls which was usually only about 20 seconds. I would throw on I was like I'm gonna try to get through all these discographies of people I like, and I was like I was going through Pet Shop Boys, I had never heard the song it was on some B-side and I was like this song is amazing. It's because I've always thought that the whole Disney narrative has messed up so many people of this capitalist thing of working hard. There's someone for everyone you'll find love, all these things. They create a golden, a gold plated lust. That is a form of what they call love, and dusted with capitalism or something like that. And when he's talking about just that life will be disappointing and all these things and not having expectations. It's just so well said and comforting. I found, especially while working in a call center.
carla 1:00:25
Yeah, thanks for sharing that story and re-listening to that and hadn’t listened to it years, but there was a line in it. I think, I hope, it's in it. Oh, my gosh, it made me think: I wonder if this was some seeds around the melancholy thing of being like wearing it as a badge of honor because it there's that line where just for the sake of it, make sure you're always frowning It shows the world you're got substance and depth. Like I was quite judging of you if people were not melancholy. I was like, You can't be paying, you're just not paying attention. How many people are suffering?
chris 1:00:58
Yeah, that's actually yeah, that's the third verse. Yeah, it's it's one of my favorite lines, because it's just it's funny for one, but then yeah, it's kind of deep too. And it's like, there's a lot of people who, and I know there's so much to you know, different neuro divergence of sometimes people who smile the most are actually very depressed. I just like how he plays with this whole thing of you have to show that if you see someone frowning, they understand this philosophy of miserabilism. There's no happy endings just a message to depress and it's so funny and true.
carla 1:01:35
And it has a beat that makes you move so that the joy can move. Yeah, they always said the great dancy beats. Okay, so now we're going to Nat King Cole. Song Nature Boy. Oh, I didn't have the song on my first playlist. I think first one, I sent to you didn't have this. I do have it on the large original one. But I was on a walk with Zach and he reminded me that I sing the song all the time. When I am not doing well. And also because like love was like the thing like you centering everything in love is what actually got you healthy. It's not It's not about the negative and fighting back and Don't tell me what to do and don't want to do this and I don't want to it was all about actually more affirmative and really big fan of Moulin Rouge, seen it more than I want to admit and including seeing it in San Francisco at the Castro with everyone's with a sing along. So the song is just incredible and because there is the melancholic energy throughout it but you know, the message is so short and so quick, but it's everything.
Nat King Cole. 1:02:44
SONG: Nature Boy
chris 1:05:10
I think that is just such good advice, this song and I wish I would have heard this when I was young. The the message is so powerful. Oh, you were speaking of the Moulin Rouge
carla 1:05:36
Actually been there I haven't been inside but I've seen it outside of Paris - that's really good to know. Have you not seen the movie?
chris 1:05:45
I'm not in a long time. I haven't No.
carla 1:05:48
Yeah, it's we have a joke in our family that it's actually Christian that is actually the character not Ewan McGregor but the joke is a Ewan McGregor gave me a call tomorrow that I dumped the whole family. But it's it's really that character just heartache, and so beautiful.
chris 1:06:09
Love it. And this is the most common song that you you actually verbalize when you're stressed out?
carla 1:06:16
Yeah. that's one of those things I didn't even know I did it can reflect people you live with reflect back to you did this thing
chris 1:06:25
I love that your kid collaborated and got this song on here and then got this song into my into my heart in my mind. Okay, so I'm going to now play Sade - When Am I Going To Make a Living?
Sade 1:07:20
SONG: When Am I Going To Make a Living?
chris 1:09:56
So aside from this, it has been an amazing song, and I am a big Sade fan, when I was in high school, I stopped playing basketball, and for the school, and I broke my knee and had surgery and then to play basketball. So I started working at the hospital. And I was working at Rose Medical Hospital in Denver. And they had this free jukebox in the cafeteria. And this was one of the albums that was on there. And there was this this woman who I worked with in the cafeteria and in the kitchen and she showed me this song. And she was kind of like my real teacher, she was teaching me through Sade. She was saying, she would always tell me the line that the waste your body and soul if you allow them, and she was an older Black woman from the south, and she was like a mentor to me, she was like you need to do good in school, would talk to me about getting out of there getting out of the kitchen, if I could. So I was a pot washer, was probably there till I was 19, so probably about five years. And the jukebox had all kinds of other annoying albums. And this was the one that was great. I remember they had a Who let the Dogs Out by the Bahama Men, and it was a single, and this one cook he put in the code like six times to drive people crazy. And then we'd have to unplug the jukebox. But I really just learned a lot from this song. This song just has such a powerful message.
Carla 1:11:14
I love that story. Holy moly. Is that like layers? Yeah, she's amazing, big on the playlist of me, choosing joy over sorrow, really, at that time in 2001. And listen to her a lot. This song is really important for me too, because I was in the restaurant business for years. It's like generational, like my grandmother owned restaurants. And I was really good at it. And I was in Toronto and I was the the owner wanted me to open a restaurant with him in Vancouver and be partners and I was listening not to the song, but to some part of my playlists and other people and just like I'm gonna not be working class anymore which is a joke ,because you can't actually say you're not going to do anymore. But I decided that I had a retirement party. And I've never turned back. I've never worked in a restaurant since I was 35, I think it's just a really important message in there is just an important nuance because people like capitalists, what's that shit line of like, do what you love, the money will follow bullshit. But there's the thing with like working class folks that we do to ourselves where we don't we don't believe in ourselves and I love that in this line. But in that line in the song I think yeah, there's just a nuance in it that it's not about playing the capitalist game, but it's about believing in yourself so that you can find thriving. Yeah, thanks for picking it.
chris 1:12:49
Yeah. I love that. Thanks for adding that. We're doing the Holly Cole version. So this next song is I Don't Want to Grow Up
Holy Cole 1:13:26
SONG: I Don't Want To Grow Up
carla 1:17:00
Yeah, so this song has played a factor, since I was a teenager because the Ramones did it first, much more upbeat, funnier version. Really, I think, the perfect version for a teen to listen to, really resonated. I have fought so called adultism all my life in terms of the rigidity that I seen the suffering and whatever that meant. And then fast forward bunch of years, just after I gave birth to Zach my oldest son in 94. That's around when she came out with this album, she covered a bunch of Tom Waits songs. Which is funny because Tom Waits version is actually the one that resonates the most with me now because it feels so playful and he's older and I don't know I just relate to him more I think but this was really I was really stuck with what does it mean to not want to grow up in this way but be a parent and i just yeah, I listened to it often and with you know, my baby on my on my chest, thinking about it didn't give in didn't grow up in that way.
chris 1:18:09
I love those threads that you put through it. Yeah, I do. I think the Ramones is the the you know the most playful and then Tom Waits is kind of the middle, which Tom Waits is what Tom Waits is so good at, of being melancholy and playful and funny at the same time. And then Holly Cole just really brings out, takes takes away that sarcasm and you really just feel the the rawness of the lyrics, which is why I love this version it's Yeah, it's so powerful, but still resilient at the same time.
carla 1:18:40
Totally. Yeah. Tom Waits. Exactly. And I originally picked his version because it is melancholic joy. But the story is better.
chris 1:18:48
No, yeah, thank you for something that all together. We messed around and made a really good playlist.
carla 1:18:54
Yes. Totally fun. It was Yeah, melancholy joy.
chris 1:18:59
So I'm going to play the track Legends by Juice WRLD who recently passed away rest in peace Juice Wrld
Juice WRLD 1:19:06
SONG: Legends
chris 1:22:15
You can hear Juice WRLD’s, his heart and his music and his his soul and just the vulnerability of mostly Juice WRLD's music is so powerful and his voice the the beats that he uses too. And I really just resonate to the song because I don't know if it goes back to when my mom was smoking when she was pregnant, but my lungs, they they collapse randomly and actually collapsed four times one right when I turned 18, just back to back and then I had up surgeries. And the top lobes of my lungs had to be removed. And I was going in and out of the hospital for probably about a year or two. So I was always on dilaudid in the hospital, just messed up my head so bad. And then they would give me like percocets and all this. And, you know, it's essentially like battling with addiction of pain pills, just because I was depressed. But I didn't think I was I think that was the scariest thing. It just was like, Oh yeah, I'll take one because I have all these and I have a little bit of pain. And then it was turning into, you know, a hole to dig down that that was a dangerous hole. And I really just relate to what, what Juice WRLD’s talking about in this on top of this. And the things that he struggled with. I know there was another artist that was lost who had a similar vulnerability to their lyrics was Lil Peep. Couple years ago, too. It's just had this amazing way of writing too. And the lyrics that really resonate with me in the song is that I usually have an answer to the question but this time I'm going to be quiet. Ain't nothing like the feeling of uncertainty that eeriness of silence. And so powerful. When I work with a lot of youth in high schools, I know a lot of them relate to juice wrld too, because they're going in school at this time that's worried about school shootings, worried about climate change. So many existential things are already heavy on top of just being in high school, those feelings at the time. So there's just a lot of intersections and things that collide with this song and why I relate to it.
carla 1:24:25
Thanks for sharing about your story and being vulnerable. I am so sorry. That's a lot to contend with. Glad you
chris 1:24:32
Thank you.
carla 1:24:34
Yeah, music really helps, right?
chris 1:24:37
Yeah.
carla 1:24:38
I love that song, too. I actually had the same quote pulled out so not surprisingly, I just yeah, I had shared the list with Zach today. And he was blown away that the song was on it. And he was like, Oh, it's just too sad. Lil Peep and they're all dead...Yeah. But yeah, the love for each other, though that comes through in the song. Like about, you know, like the music will live on it's one of the things that writers die to like I'm like, I'm so grateful that I still have their their words to carry me, carry generations, not just me. I really like that in that too. Yeah.
chris 1:25:17
Yeah, and like one beautiful thing about art is that it literally saves lives. And I know that this song saves lives every day. And that's another thing of just beautiful art.
carla 1:25:30
Yeah. yeah
chris 1:25:31
Okay, so this next track is better by Burial. The new song is Untrue.
Burial 1:25:35
SONG: Untrue
carla 1:31:15
Feelings, feelings and saw because you girl, man Yeah, there's like many stories for this. I think probably why I I think probably why I chose it is in 2017 I got really sick and was in bed for about eight months. I love to dance. It's how I like how I move through being sad, and I couldn't dance. So I kind of came up with this plan that if I put a record on and laid on the floor, like on the hardwood floor, I would feel the vibrations of the music. And my body would get my Vegas nerve activated. Move. And Zach put on this and yeah, it just became like a healing theme song. Especially Untrue. And then during the pandemic, it just, you know, that feeling of being in quarantine and stuff and being stuck at home like, had a similar feeling even though I could physically dance. So, you know, I just listened to it every day. And I mean, we have all of Burial's stuff. But this is the one that I go to. And then I think I shared this with you. But Mark Fisher writes about a story about him writing this this particular song with his mom and him being really sad. I think if their dog his dog just died or something. And he wrote something, and his mom didn't like it and told him to like, just go make some tea and fuck everybody and do his work, find his passion or whatever. I can't remember the exact quote. It's really good. And that just made me love it even more, because he immediately went and wrote this song Untrue, and she loved it.
chris 1:33:02
And then it turned to be his breakout hit right?
carla 1:33:04
Yes.
chris 1:33:06
I love his story so much I had never known until you told me it's so cool. So when you started using the song kind of as a ritual for healing Did you notice a big difference right away?
carla 1:33:18
Yes. Sorry, the wind
chris 1:33:19
It’s fine. This episode is featuring the wind.
carla 1:33:23
Yes. Which is our sound?
chris 1:33:25
Yeah. It's a form of music. I mean, I first heard Burial, it was on a Thom Yorke remix and I just love the haunting syntha but it's still dancey and some my favorite type of music, a reason why I love the new wave so much and Trance and some EDM and stuff like that. I love that this pick is on the playlist. So next we're going to a Channel Zero Network friend, Tim who is Sole and the song is called Last Earth.
Sole 1:34:08
SONG: Last Earth
chris 1:36:22
So, for one, Sole is one of my favorite lyricists, one of my favorite writers, I don't know how many albums Sole has, it's gotta be, it's in the 20s it may be in the 30s, a prolific writer. And the reason I like this song is it has a melancholy joy to it. It's a lot of Sole's music does, but this is more of a dancey beat. It has William Ryan Fritch, from Sole and the Skyrider band singing with him. Just the beginning bars, so cool, I might be dead, but no flies on me. And he lived in Denver for a while. And we would often go to protests together. And I remember one day we were at one of these protests and he disappeared and he was arrested, kind of just for stepping off the curb for a second you know, the average blocking traffic or something. And the line all up in the cell talking FTP, is just so funny to me, but so Sole at the same time, and so true. And the just the way that he gets into other topics too, he says that's a bad trip, like when whites cross the sea, talking about colonialism, questioning dogma, which is something he does so well with his the way that he intervenes with anarchy and anarchism. And the course to the planet Earth, you don't belong to anyone, we will undo the feudal age. And then he always gets into little sci fi tangents as well like talking about the simulation theory or are we in a projection, and then the playfulness of Sole as well that sometimes he dreams he's flying through space to sees other just all these images of liberation will talking about desecration at the same time, which is I find inspiring and comforting and reflective.
carla 1:38:07
Thanks for putting the song on. I hadn't heard it. Already adore Tim/Sole. So I had pulled out similar lines as you but I'm the one in the chorus that we will die trying, I love so much because I mean that's that willingness, you know? I think like in all my social media bios I just wrote, I try... because I think that's like the least we, I mean, it's the most we can do actually. And I think isn't there like a Rebecca Solnit told me this, like, it's actually what an essayist is, like somebody who writes political stuff for the world is at the ideas you try. So just really gravitates to that, so hearing that in the song with that, with those lyrics, I was like, that's the point. That's the whole entire point is to try.
chris 1:38:53
It really reminds me of the whole, Sole always did the whole détournement of Guy Debord and kind of see this in three parts. So the first one being 50 cent, Get Rich or Die Trying. And then Dead Prez, they kind of did a détournement and they said Get Free or Die Trying and then Sole, kind of Sole is in that vein very much with his music of or we will die trying
carla 1:39:16
Nice connection. Nice weaving. took what I said, no grounding and grounded it Thank you.
chris 1:39:27
No way. I didn't even think of it. until you brought it up. So yeah, that's the beauty of collaboration. Oh, you're so nice. You picked our song for the last song, which is I've always loved the monsters by by me, Jason/Maudlin Magpie & produced by A Thousand Vows
Time (me), Jason/Maudlin Magpie & produced by A Thousand Vows 1:39:58
SONG: I've Always Loved the Monsters
carla 1:43:26
So I wanted to pick something on the larger playlist too I also just picked something that just came out from Kinnie Starr... I just really wanted to bring it current. I listen to this song more than I'd like to admit it.. thank you so much for creating it both of you. It just. Yeah, it does bring that melancholy joy because it roots me into like a lot of things. I mean, almost every line, it's something that I've like, pondered or thought about, not in the exact same way or not in the same poetic way. But one of the things I'm really trying to figure out is like how to get out of my head and be more present so that I can just live more of a thriving life and so much of my work was about like creating thriving environments and containers for people but then I overworked myself and didn't thrive myself. Then there's just you have that in there and, and on the one hand like, like, the Jason's melody, like, it's kind of this counter to it because it's it's like this dilemma that I have around like more thought is like, takes me way out of presence, but yet your thoughts do untangle it all for me. So anyway, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put your lyrics back to you.
��chris 1:44:37
I love that. Thank you, it's an honor that you feel that way. And to just give a little bit of context to this song is I had, I believe I've told you the story, but I had recorded this song, and this song talks about death like a lot of my songs which I get made fun of for. I had recorded this song. and it even says the one one day years hard will be beating the the next it might not be. And literally the next day, I got in a horrific car accident, almost died and had internal bleeding and stuff. And then my mind didn’t work that well for a while. It's such a severe concussion. And when I kind of came back to and I was able to write again and work on this album, I wanted to redo this verse, the song and Jason was like, no, that you recorded that. It's like, it almost was your last recording. Like you have to keep it. It's crazy. It's eerie. And maybe he's kind of a macabre person for wanting to keep it like it was but it was a good idea. But then I found out later that he actually wrote the chorus when I was injured pretty much, and he said he was kind of talking about how my mind is it always like can make a lot of connections and goes places so I was like wow, I never knew the chorus had to actually do with me and that he was worried about me when I was injured, so it kind of made, ties the song more together.
carla 1:46:04
Wow, that is probably what I've like it just has such it's so affectual like it's kinetic. Like I feel it in every way and also like I do a lot of work with my ancestral stuff and you just you cover it all like yeah my my sights.. What is it, my thoughts steal my sight? Oh man. Yeah, my daily. I apologize to my kids and my partner for that.. Yeah. Thanks for sharing that story. And I'm so glad you survived that accident. Yeah. And not to mention the title because we both love monsters.
chris 1:46:42
Yeah, no, definitely. That was that was the other thing of yeah, always, always love the Yeah, the monsters are not always the heroes of the stories or what's really strange is this last track that I picked by SBTRKT featuring sampha trials of the past is a song that actually was one of the ways I healed after my car accident. I didn't even think about how these lined up. I was I never took a day off of teaching after the car accident, which was a really dumb idea because I was throwing up after a lecture, anytime I use my my brain even if I read a text message, it would make me nauseous. And I was stubborn and took place in this debate I had already said I would go to on fracking, which I was glad I did because the fracking debate was horrible. And I threw up after that too. But this was a song that I would always listen to on the light rail. And it brought me peace and it made me feel free.
SBTRKT (feat. Sampha) 1:47:45
SONG: Trials of the Past
carla 1:51:15
I really like the songs, how does it help?
chris 1:51:19
Back to that thing where you say like it's just there, that vibe of this melancholy joy. For one, it's just the beats. I love this like tube synths in the minors in it and then some - Sampha's voice, it's just so soulful, and so calming and poetic. But when I would be on the light rail, and I was trying to get to like the front or the back of the car, and I stand up, and then I would pretend I was flying. And I didn't feel good, you know, because I couldn't really think, so I feel kind of weird too. I felt spacey. So I actually felt like I was flying above the light rail while listening to this over and over again for about a month. And then I love the second verse where he says I was always floating around the city, going with the flow without ever knowing where I want to be. So I got into crazy situations. And a loyal soldier who acts who acts who acts but never asks, that was my favorite line. And I just love that. And I know you and me, we really resonate about talking about questioning and questions.
carla 1:52:23
I really liked flying on my back, the looking down. Really, really related to that I think it has like it had this sense of like astral projection or something in it. I think there's some kind of like, beyond this physical realm. I mean, that's the joy. I think I pulled from it out of that.yeah
chris 1:52:44
Yeah, it reminds me of your story about Burial a little bit too, about how you were trying to get the nerve nerve activated going and like that form of dancing. And we had talked about in an email before this on other topics of what music is and music and ableism. And I was telling you about a friend I have who's a non hearing friend, and they told me, they were explaining to me about going to shows and that they enjoy going to shows where they can just feel the bass and the bass in their chest. And just the vibes of the energy of a show and all of those things. And just those things to consider when people are talking about music and ableism and all those things that tie in, and how music is part of everyone's realities.
carla 1:53:32
Yeah, thanks for bringing that up. It's really important. That's the thing like rhythm. Yeah, even a non hearing person they can feel it in their body. And I think that's really important because that's like I shared that quote. It's Zach's favorite quote the one about like that sound is you can't have music without sound but you can have sound without music and so therefore sound is more important. But it makes me think about that just opening up what sound is and how how we experience it and in even like a harmonic way or harmony way, like that's probably a whole other conversation that I'm probably not the best person to have it with because I don't really understand music, but just even the western narrow version of what music is versus the east. Just continues on the white supremist hegemonic road even what constitutes music.
chris 1:54:24
Yeah, like always trying to categorize and break things into binaries that are not necessarily. Going back to what you were saying about how you enjoy dance. And that's a way that you're able to express, just yeah, the music of that and just the rhythm of movement
carla 1:54:42
Even separating that in the West.
chris 1:54:47
I love that bird
carla 1:54:48
A little music
chris 1:54:51
And is a perfect book end because that's how we started it with talking to the birds.
carla 1:54:55
Yes. Nice. Nice. Did you want to say anything about your larger list before we wrap it up?
chris 1:55:03
Like the ones that I really picked on my extra was a song that I really grew up listening to which was Respiration by Blackstar. It's talking about the city and the beat by Hi Tek is really contemplated and I love like the poetry of Mos Def (Yasiin Bey). I had Prince on there, which we're both big Prince fans, I have a lot of jazz that was on there like Archie Shepp, big Tom Waits fan like you were talking about. So I had stuff from nighthawks at the diner, which was, you know, kind of a play into our newest album Nighthawks at McCoys, Stevie Wonder is one of the greatest of all time, I just love, everything Stevie does, going back to the hospital when I worked there, Frankie Beverly and The Maze of a co worker taught me about them in the song Joy & Pain ties in so much into this. And then the Priests, I really love the Priests and their music in Earth, Wind and Fire, one of the members from Earth Wind and Fire's from Denver. I am a big Frank Ocean fan as well. New wave, so Joy Division, and I probably end up putting a New Order or someone else on there if we kept going with this playlist.
carla 1:56:08
Well, I did 13 so you can add a couple more. I'm so excited to share this list. I'm gonna start with the couple that like we're in that we got booted out of the top seven which is Sun Ra, Blue Soul, So I mean, I just, I don't know, I feel like I'm from another planet most of the time, so I really relate to Sun Ra's stuff and, and really get lost in it. And then Sinead O'Connor really, really important. I mean, her and Tracy Chapman, you know, are my political educators. Oh the song that I kicked off right away was for the one that Zach told me to do nature boy, but This is for Life from Luka Bloom. I don't know if you know his stuff, but he's Irish. Just an incredible singer, singer songwriter, and it's really about a song during the troubles where a man or woman fall in love and he gets put in prison because he kills somebody. But they stay together despite it all and it's all about time and how he can't actually watch the moon because he's in jail and it's really really sad but there's like a beauty about it that they commit to life together their love their love is going to transcend this physical distance. Yeah, so and Prince, of course, it was really hard to pick a Prince song. I was really wanting to do something from his early stuff that Purple Rain is the one that had to be and then The Cure. Aw, man, I probably listened to Cure like three times a week because it's a dance. It's not you know, it is melancholy Joy to the max because it has the beat to dance. But the songs are so sad. Sigur Ros is another, all of it. It's my every time I go on a flight. I listened to Sigur Ros. I love it. The Police's like circa you know, teenager, I just felt completely lonely. It's from their first or maybe their second. I thought it's from the first album. And then I have a couple jazz stuff on there to Steal my Joy from Lee Williams. Do you know that song? So good
chris 1:58:09
No, no.
carla 1:58:11
it's about not stealing, It's like don't steal my joy is actually the song
chris 1:58:15
Nice.
carla 1:58:17
Sounds really, really beautiful. And then of course, At Last lost I borrowed from a friend who did a playlist about hope and Rebecca Solnit actually, she had it on there. Because she's you know, sometimes sometimes we have to wait for it. Sometimes there's patience in the fight, in the build. So I thought it was a good one in terms of ending my playlists. Sometimes the Joy has you have to wait a bit.
chris 1:58:45
I love that.
carla 1:58:46
They cover them all. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, Walkabout real quick. I love Atlas Sound. And I really wanted the song on the film I made about the purple thistle and I went through a lot of networks to get it but of course, you know, you're in the business. He didn't he doesn't actually have rights to the song so I ended up not using it but yeah,
chris 1:59:05
on dang. Yeah, I love your extras on here.
carla 1:59:10
Oh my god. I missed Sour Gout. Yeah, that's my kid. It was hard to pick but I picked the one that resonated the most. He's written a couple songs for me. I should probably have done one of them but had a lot of rain in it.
chris 1:59:26
Awesome. All right, carla. Well, I'll talk to you soon. Bye
carla 1:59:30
Bye.
1:59:32
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Ep 08 Transcript: Twenty to Thirty Feral Cats
Episode 8
[intro music]
PAZ: Hi everyone. Welcome back again to Stairway to StarClan, a Warrior Cats reread pawdcast. I'm Paz.
JULIAN: I'm Julian.
LIZ: And I'm Liz.
PAZ: And I did almost forget the name of our podcast in the middle of saying that. So off to a strong start. Yeah, we are here today starting Fire and Ice, the second book in-- I guess it's just called the... I've also forgotten what the first books--
JULIAN: I think it's The Prophecy Begins is the name of the series.
PAZ: That is. I have my old version so I don't think it even says that. I mean, I guess I should say this is the book at which I have never read past for The Prophecy Begins, so this is uncharted territory for me in terms of details of what happens, beyond just like broad plot points. So that's exciting.
JULIAN: Yeah, we're also getting into the-- like, I read all these books multiple times, but I don't remember what happens in which book, so.
PAZ: Yeah, like some of the major plot points I know that do come up, I've been trying to figure out like what book I think that happens in. I'm like, I have no fucking clue. I don't really even know-- well, I know it's in this book but I don't know if that will just be the whole book. Well anyway, we read it. We started reading it. We're all gonna find out together. Anyone else want to add anything before the summaries?
LIZ: Yeah, I want to look for one second at the Allegiances area, cause there's some great descriptions. "Fireheart, handsome ginger tom. Graystripe, long-haired solid gray tom." Why is he called Graystripe then? What the fuck?
JULIAN: I always thought all the official art was like wrong because he didn't have any stripes in it. But it turns out that fuckin apparently he doesn't have stripes.
LIZ: What?
PAZ: Are they like metaphorical stripes. What happened?
LIZ: Are they military stripes?
PAZ: Oh no.
JULIAN: Maybe they thought the stripes would kind of like come in when he got older.
PAZ: Wow, Bluestar's really betting on that, huh? Didn't happen.
LIZ: She's playing the long game. You know, she's just got that big mastermind brain. Except when she doesn't. There's one more and it's for one of the the older cats, and it's gonna come up later. Let me see here. Yeah, there's Dappletail, "a once-pretty tortoiseshell she-cat with a lovely dappled coat." They do this to her at least two times. She was once beautiful. Hey. Come on.
PAZ: It reminds me of that Cats character.
JULIAN: Oh yeah, fuckin...
PAZ: The one who sings Memory.
JULIAN: Grizabella, the glamour cat.
PAZ: Yeah, Dappletail the glamour cat.
JULIAN: What do you have against aging gracefully, Erin Hunter?
LIZ: Yeah, all cats are beautiful to me.
JULIAN: All cats are queens.
PAZ: Yes.
JULIAN: Including Dappletail.
PAZ: Yes. I think old cats can be very cute.
LIZ: Yeah, again, look at Chloe.
JULIAN: Chloe.
LIZ: Chloe.
JULIAN: I was also excited to see in the Allegiances that Barley, Smudge, and Ravenpaw are all listed.
PAZ: Yes.
LIZ: Yay.
JULIAN: Spoilers, I guess, but it's also in the front of the book, so.
LIZ: Spoilers.
PAZ: Yeah, they do that sometimes. They do that every time. Aw, Smudge's description is so cute. "Plump, friendly black and white kitten who lives in the house at the edge of the forest."
JULIAN: I don't think he's a kitten anymore.
LIZ: No.
JULIAN: He and Fireheart are the same age.
PAZ: Well, his balls are gone so he's an everkit or whatever the hell that was.
LIZ: Is that what happened?
PAZ: We found that like cat slur somewhere.
LIZ: That doesn't mean he stops aging.
PAZ: Well, I don't know. I don't know what perspective Allegiances is written from.
LIZ: You know, whoever wrote this, hundreds of years in the cat future, the weird archivist doing this had some very strange views about age. You know, after cats have learned to write.
JULIAN: Right.
PAZ: Yeah, right.
JULIAN: With their little paws.
PAZ: Oh my god, there's a RiverClan person called Loudbelly.
LIZ: Aw.
JULIAN: I love that.
LIZ: So good.
PAZ: That's a great name.
LIZ: Wait. Right below is there's a warrior called Whiteclaw.
PAZ: The description is just "a dark warrior." Period.
JULIAN: Why is he fucking named Whiteclaw?
LIZ: Maybe he's got little white socks.
JULIAN: Oh, that would be good.
PAZ: Oh, yes. I like that.
LIZ: Or maybe he just you know, likes hard seltzer.
JULIAN: I feel like hard seltzer didn't exist as a thing when this was written in like...
PAZ: No. Two thousand--
JULIAN: 2005 or whatever.
PAZ: Yeah. Okay, when did this come out? I think it might have actually come out the same year as the first one or like the year immediately after.
LIZ: Really.
PAZ: It came out, like really close together. I remember being--
LIZ: If you poured like vodka into a carbonator, would that be anything? Is that scientifically like viable?
JULIAN: Oh, yeah. Publish date 27 May 2003. Um, let's see. Carbonated vodka. I don't know if the alcohol would hold carbonation well.
LIZ: Probably not.
JULIAN: Um, nope. Someone did put-- here's a YouTube video. Someone put vodka in their Sodastream. Uh, yeah, it's possible. I think it probably doesn't taste good.
LIZ: No.
PAZ: I don't think you should carbonate anything. That's my stance.
JULIAN: You don't like the bubbles?
PAZ: No, I don't.
LIZ: Give them to me.
JULIAN: I love the sharp water.
LIZ: Me too, handshake.
PAZ: I don't like the bone hurting juice.
LIZ: I don't know. It feels-- sometimes your bones need some hurting. It's medicinal.
PAZ: Mmkay. Anyway, I think we're-- oh yes.
JULIAN: We've gotten wildly off topic.
LIZ: But just as a heads up, it's currently thundering where I live, so adds to the vibe, but also--
JULIAN: It'll be atmospheric.
LIZ: Yeah. But if you hear any, like rumbling in the background, I hope you don't, but that's what it is.
PAZ: I hope your power stays on.
LIZ: Me too.
PAZ: Well, let's dive into this then, just to get into it. Okay, so moving on to the summaries. This week, we read the prologue through chapter 3 of Fire and Ice. So the prologue opens on an unknown group of cats huddled near the Thunderpath within range of a Twoleg campfire. The cats are led by Tallstar, revealing them to be the exiled WindClan cats. The WindClan cats are still searching for a new home since being driven from their territory. The other cats in the clan voiced their concerns for themselves and the kits, but Tallstar decides that they have no choice but to settle in this barren area. The cats find a tunnel underneath what appears to be a highway overpass and take shelter there, having no other choices.
Chapter 1 then opens immediately following the last scene of Into the Wild, where Fireheart and Graystripe are completing their silent vigil. The book recaps the events of the previous book through Fireheart's internal monologue a lot. After their vigil, Sandpaw and Dustpaw get a scene where they are clearly displeased that the younger apprentices were made warriors first. And then as Graystripe and Fireheart settle into sleep in the warriors den, Fireheart thinks about how he still has to warn Bluestar about Tigerclaw. And he then has a very vivid dream of Thunderpath and cats in front of a fire.
After a timeskip to the evening, Fireheart and Graystripe have a conversation about how Fireheart wants to warn Bluestar. Graystripe doesn't seem to believe what Ravenpaw had said, and pointed out that if Ravenpaw was right, Redtail must have killed Oakheart, which would be against the warrior code and thus an assault on the deceased deputy's honor. Fireheart decides that Graystripe can stay out of the situation, and he will handle it himself. There is then a naming ceremony in which Longtail, the cat who hated Fireheart for being a kittypet, gets a new apprentice, Swiftpaw.
The next night is the night of the Gathering, and Fireheart and Graystripe attend it as warriors. Along the way. Fireheart finally gets a chance to talk with Bluestar alone, and informs her that Ravenpaw is not dead but with Barley, which Bluestar takes well. However, when Fireheart tells her about Tigerclaw, she is less receptive, especially because it calls Redtail's honor into question. She is doubtful that Ravenpaw actually saw the murder. The conversation is interrupted by Tigerclaw, and they continue on to the Gathering. Fireheart is left off kilter and begins to doubt his own gut instincts and the words of Ravenpaw.
Chapter 2 features the first gathering after Brokenstar's exile. Bluestar introduces Yellowfang as the new ThunderClan medicine cat, and Nightpelt from ShadowClan reveals that StarClan chose him to be their new leader and will travel to the Moonstone the next night. Crookedstar then revokes ShadowClan's right to hunt in their territory, which causes tension with Nightpelt. Crookedstar and Nightpelt then agree that with WindClan gone, both clans should hunt in their territory for prey. Bluestar objects to this, saying WindClan must return because StarClan gave them four clans for a reason. Tigerclaw publicly agrees WindClan must be returned. Nightpelt concedes that he will allow WindClan to return, as does Crookedstar. But both Fireheart and Tigerclaw notice after the meeting that Crookedstar and Nightpelt seem to be scheming in private despite publicly agreeing.
And then in the last chapter, chapter 3, the ThunderClan cats discuss Nightpelt and ShadowClan back in their camp. Whitestorm suggests ShadowClan is stronger than they appeared and that Nightpelt may have high ambitions. And some other cats reveal RiverClan's river hunting grounds have been disturbed by Twolegs. Later Firepaw once again dreams of the Thunderpath and the sad cry of a young cat. He wakes up unsettled and ultimately decides it must be a commonplace nightmare.
The following morning, Bluestar calls Fireheart and Graystripe for a meeting, where she gives them the mission to find and bring WindClan cats back to the forest. They will be the only two cats on this mission. Graystripe almost lets slip to Tigerclaw that they'd taken Ravenpaw to WindClan territory not too long ago, but Fireheart covers it up. The two then visit Yellowfang in the medicine cat's den, and Fireheart has some melancholy thoughts about Spottedleaf. And then after receiving their traveling herbs, the two warriors head out in search of WindClan. And that is the end of our reading this week.
JULIAN: I thought like they do a good job of kind of recapping what you last saw on Warriors, without it being like too heavy handed. Which was nice given that for most people, there's gonna be a little bit of a wait.
LIZ: Yeah.
PAZ: Yeah, I agree. It's pretty well done.
LIZ: Yeah, I just want to say it's a good use of Fireheart's brooding. He's got reason to.
PAZ: Yeah, I guess it also helps that, like there's literally no time in between the end of this book and-- I mean, the start of this book and the end of the last book, so I guess he's just like thinking about current events.
JULIAN: Yeah, well and I feel like we didn't get to see any of his like emotional reactions to basically anything that happened.
PAZ: Yeah, he seems to already have much more of like an internal life going on in this book than in the last book.
JULIAN: It's nice. Graystripe is also developing a little bit more of a personality, which is cute.
PAZ: Yes. He's developing the personality of like, not trusting his friend's words.
JULIAN: Well, yeah, that part sucks.
LIZ: Of a centrist?
PAZ: Yeah, he's developing the personality of a centrist. Oh, no.
JULIAN: Ugh.
PAZ: I do have a note here of "Graystripe confirmed fluffy" with a little smiley face. Cause I think there's a line about him being like long-furred or something.
JULIAN: Yeah, they're all getting fluffy for the winter.
PAZ: Yeah.
JULIAN: No, the Graystripe line that I liked was he says something about that he hopes Tigerclaw will set Sandpaw and Dustpaw to chasing blue squirrels.
PAZ: Yeah, that was cute. There's also a very, very cute moment in chapter 3. I'll just read it. "Graystripe purred briefly in his sleep as Fireheart settled besides him and closed his eyes." It's very cute.
JULIAN: Aw.
LIZ: Aw. They're still just little guys.
JULIAN: Pals.
PAZ: They're little guys curled up next to each other.
JULIAN: Excellent.
PAZ: I mean, I'm happy WindClan is getting introduced because as I've stated as a child, I was a WindClan fan. So.
JULIAN: Hell yeah.
PAZ: It's their time, and good thing because the other clans suck right now.
JULIAN: Yeah.
PAZ: I mean, do we want to go from the top? Like, from the prologue onward?
JULIAN: Yeah, with the prologue?
PAZ: Yeah. The prologue was nice. It was like very atmospheric and stuff. Um, I don't understand why humans suck so much in this universe.
JULIAN: I also have a note about like, why do the Twolegs fucking suck.
LIZ: Yeah.
PAZ: I mean, like, I know, like, some people are mean to cats like even just out on the street. But I don't think to this degree where like every single human being is.
JULIAN: Yeah, no, it sucks so much. Everyone's so mean to these little cats.
PAZ: Unbelievable.
JULIAN: Although I will say if I saw like 20 to 30 feral cats.
PAZ: Okay, that's fair.
JULIAN: If I was just chilling in the woods and I saw 20 to 30 feral cats, I might also like, yell at them
PAZ: What's that tweet about the feral hogs?
LIZ: That's so many though. I would leave. I don't think I could take 20 to 30 feral cats. They'd just get me.
PAZ: Legit question for rural Britons? British people? I don't know what British people are called. How do I kill the 20 to 30 feral cats that run into my yard within three to five minutes while my small kids play?
JULIAN: I feel like Twolegs sucking is gonna be kind of a theme of these books.
PAZ: It definitely is.
JULIAN: Given that we're already starting to see like, oh, the Twolegs are encroaching on the forest.
LIZ: Habitat loss.
PAZ: Yeah. I am curious to see where it goes with that theme of like, are you gonna lean into like this environmental theme? I don't know where they land on the execution, but we'll see.
LIZ: We don't know it yet. But in two or three series, the humans are just gonna have a little apocalypse and die off and it's gonna be post human apocalypse cat society just like in Guardians of Gahoole. Which is just gonna be like a weird mythology that's like used to scare the little kits and stuff.
JULIAN: Right? Like, do your hunting practice or a Twoleg will get you.
LIZ: Why is the Thunderpath called that? It's so peaceful and quiet. It's still smelly though.
PAZ: This is a bold claim to make about future books. I mean, I guess we'll see, you know.
JULIAN: Liz's predictions are my favorite part.
LIZ: Yeah, it's me. I'm the medicine cat.
PAZ: But, I mean, the prologue was pretty short. It was just like some like, atmospheric scene setting. But poor WindClan, man.
JULIAN: Yeah. I feel sorry for that cat who's going to have to give birth in a storm drain.
PAZ: Right?
LIZ: No.
PAZ: I would take in these 20 to 30 feral cats and feed them.
JULIAN: Trap neuter return, guys. Cats don't have to give birth in a storm drain if they don't get pregnant.
PAZ: Taps head three times. But yeah, and then moving on to chapter 1. It's pretty long. It's just a lot of Fireheart being like, I gotta tell Bluestar again.
JULIAN: It felt like a fuckin like comedy of errors. Every time he gets up to tell her, she is like, oh, Tigerclaw is at my side now, or I'm gonna hop up on the High Rock and make an announcement. It felt very Yakety Sax.
PAZ: Yeah, it did. But you know, I'm glad he finally like got that drilled into his memory enough that it happened.
JULIAN: I was so afraid he was going to tell her about Ravenpaw and then not say anything about Tigerclaw.
PAZ: Oh, I know.
JULIAN: I thought he might chicken out at the last minute. I'm very glad that he did not.
LIZ: I couldn't take that for another book.
PAZ: A whole nother book.
LIZ: I'm glad he's got a little brain now. I'm so proud of him. Character development.
PAZ: Yeah, he does seem to be developing a bit more of a brain. It's only been like three chapters. But you know.
LIZ: Speaking of Fireheart's brain, there is this part. near the middle? The end of chapter 1 where one of the other warriors gets like an apprentice. And there is a little bit of thought there about like xenophobia.
PAZ: Yeah.
LIZ: Yeah, Fireheart is like, wow, that guy didn't welcome me when I was a kitten. But I guess it's fine because that other kitten was born here.
PAZ: Yeah.
LIZ: And apparently, he makes an expression cause Graystripe is like, what's with you?
PAZ: Yeah, I like that scene a lot, actually, cause it was like, wow character.
LIZ: Uh-huh. And it hasn't been that long since he was like that young. So like, this is still kind of fresh to him.
PAZ: I mean, yeah, cats age so fast. I guess it was a couple months ago.
LIZ: Yeah. He's just a little-- he's always gonna be a little guy to me.
PAZ: They do still have little guy energy.
LIZ: Yeah.
JULIAN: Yeah.
PAZ: They're just little guys who are also xenophobic.
JULIAN: Yeah, just because they're little guys doesn't mean they can't do crimes.
PAZ: No, that's very clear. Something I didn't know, I didn't realize that killing another cat was against warrior code? Question mark?
JULIAN: Yeah, I also didn't-- I feel like they kill each other all the time.
LIZ: They do.
PAZ: I was like, uhhh. It wasn't like just killing the deputy, right? Or was it like killing in general?
LIZ: Maybe it's deputy.
PAZ: Gotta go look at Graystripe's exposition.
LIZ: Maybe it's like a political faux pas.
PAZ: Yeah, maybe.
LIZ: Because isn't their murder policy like, hey, if we see you around these parts, it's on sight?
PAZ: Yeah, I thought so.
LIZ: Right?
PAZ: Okay, what Graystripe says is, "I can't believe that Redtail would have deliberately killed another clan deputy in battle. It goes against the warrior code. We fight to prove our strength and defend our territory, not to kill each other."
JULIAN: They kill each other-- again, they kill each other all the time.
PAZ: Right?
LIZ: They really do.
PAZ: I was like, I don't think it would like drag his name through the dirt if it turns out he killed somebody. Tigerclaw says he killed Oakheart, and everyone loves him. Like what is--
JULIAN: Yeah, wait.
PAZ: What is the issue?
JULIAN: Well, I guess it was like he killed Oakheart in revenge for killing Redtail.
PAZ: I guess.
JULIAN: Would that...
PAZ: I guess that makes it better. I don't know.
JULIAN: That makes it okay.
LIZ: Revenge is fine.
PAZ: It also sucks that everyone like just does not believe Ravenpaw.
LIZ: He's done nothing wrong. He was just a little like, guy. I'm sorry I keep saying that. But he's just like, a perfectly fine like, member of the clan who was really great at like hunting snakes and stuff. What did he do wrong?
PAZ: I mean, I guess no one was like, oh, like Ravenpaw's like lying just to be mean. They were all like, maybe he just like mis-saw or he got like, anxious or something. But it's still like, I think it's like a big-- like if you like run away and like fake your death and have that accusation, I think maybe you should like consider more strongly that it might have weight behind it.
JULIAN: Right? This isn't like a fun like flirty accusation for Ravenpaw.
LIZ: No.
JULIAN: It has ruined his life.
PAZ: Yeah, he had to leave his home forever.
JULIAN: I mean, it hasn't ruined his life because he's living in gay pastoral fantasy with Barley, but like, he doesn't know that.
PAZ: Yeah, he hasn't had his like rom com yet.
JULIAN: We're at still the beginning of the rom com.
PAZ: Yeah, Bluestar seems to have no brains, I think.
LIZ: Where'd they go?
PAZ: I'm very frustrated by it. Like why does she love Tigerclaw so much? Chill.
LIZ: They're not even friends. She doesn't like him.
JULIAN: His vibes are so rancid. They're so... and then for Fireheart to start doubting himself. And like Graystripe also to doubt him. Again, Graystripe, you just risked your life to rescue Ravenpaw.
PAZ: Right? I don't understand it.
LIZ: It makes Graystripe seem so like wishy-washy.
PAZ: Right? He's a centrist. He is. He's like, Oh, I don't want to say anything that would harm the clan, you know.
LIZ: Yeah, it makes his like, earlier risk trying to help Ravenpaw seem like, oh, like a way to avoid conflict rather than sacrifice. Ugh.
PAZ: Yeah.
JULIAN: Yeah. I think we do see some stuff later that kind of backs that up.
PAZ: That's good.
JULIAN: As far as his characterization, if I'm remembering the handling of some stuff correctly, but.
LIZ: (skeptically) Mm.
PAZ: Oh boy.
JULIAN: Not with Ravenpaw, but.
PAZ: Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, I feel bad for Fireheart, though. I do think it's like reasonable for him to start doubting himself when literally everyone else is like, I think his vibes are fine. Despite Fireheart being like, his vibes fucking suck. I can sense it.
JULIAN: I was glad that we got a moment of-- speaking of bad vibes-- Longtail like being nice to his deputy, even though Fireheart is like sad about it. Or to his apprentice, sorry. Because at least we're not continuing the cycle of terrible mentors.
PAZ: Please don't give Tigerclaw another apprentice.
LIZ: No.
JULIAN: Oh, no.
LIZ: Bluestar was considering it, right?
JULIAN: Maybe he's too busy for one now.
PAZ: I don't know.
JULIAN: I thought maybe-- I said maybe he's too busy for one now. But then I remembered that Bluestar had a apprentice, so. Although she seems to have had one fighting session with Firepaw.
LIZ: It was really good, though. Look at him now.
JULIAN: Yeah, that's true. He is very good.
PAZ: She said, my work here is done.
LIZ: And it was.
JULIAN: He's a feisty little boy.
PAZ: Yeah, apparently, cause she just made him a warrior.
LIZ: That's all he needed.
PAZ: Yeah, you're right. He's like, he's never going to be mentored by Bluestar again, because he's a warrior now. That literally-- that was only important for one scene. That is so funny.
LIZ: God.
JULIAN: He had one session of driver's ed. He got behind the wheel once and then they didn't even make him take a driver's test. They were just like, oh, here's your license. Go ahead.
PAZ: I mean, I guess the one thing I can say for Bluestar is she was like, really chill about Ravenpaw leaving. She was just like, yeah, sometimes cats just would be better off somewhere else, like not in a mean way. Just like, he didn't seem that happy here. Thanks, Bluestar.
LIZ: I did like the parallel she made with like, Fireheart, you're happier here, even though you weren't born here. And like, it was interesting cause he was also self conscious about that. Because like, that's the thing that does get him now and then, like, personally, even though she means it as like a nice thing.
PAZ: But she says, I do not want to hear it about Tigerclaw, so that's great.
JULIAN: Oy.
LIZ: One last thing about chapter 1, before we get to the later parts, I guess-- or I mean, we're kind of there already, but you know. I just want to draw attention to Whitestorm pretty early on, because he's described as having a deep meow.
PAZ: I mean, there's cats who do.
LIZ: Yeah, it's just funny to hear that. It's like, "'glad to see the dawn, you two.' Whitestorm's deep meow took Fireheart by surprise."
JULIAN: I'm just imagining him now, now that you mention that, that video of the cat who like meows like a person.
PAZ: Yeah, yes, I love that video.
LIZ: The one that's like (deep voice) meow.
PAZ: Yeah, that one.
JULIAN: That's Whitestorm. I too am surprised, Fireheart.
PAZ: Do you think the cats have like cat accents in their meows?
LIZ: Yeah, they're British.
JULIAN: Oh, I wonder if the different clans have different accents?
LIZ: Aw, that'd be cute.
JULIAN: Because I know-- well, do you think Fireheart like talks like a kittypet? Cause I know that like pet cats often make different noises than like--
PAZ: They meow more.
JULIAN: --feral ones, yeah.
LIZ: That's true.
PAZ: Everyone's always meowing in this book but cats only meow like around humans. But we'll let that slide. It's fine.
LIZ: It's almost like that could be solved with some very minor writing changes. I can't think of what, though.
PAZ: Oh, we should--
JULIAN: Would you say something about it?
PAZ: We should number count the times said is in this book. Can we get...
JULIAN: Yeah, I can do a-- let me do a quick search.
PAZ: Can we get a number on that? Okay, thank you.
JULIAN: On my ebook.
LIZ: Anyone want to make any bets for how many we'll have?
JULIAN: Yeah, give me your over/unders.
LIZ: 12. By the end of the book.
PAZ: Maybe they've they've got a little looser this book. So 20.
JULIAN: Yeah, we're at 27.
PAZ: Oh.
JULIAN: But none of them are dialogue tags.
LIZ: Oh my god.
PAZ: Welp. Okay, that means--
JULIAN: Entirely-- all of them are like, Graystripe said nothing, or like.
PAZ: Oh god.
JULIAN: This character said this. This character said that, or like characters reporting that a character said something else, like in their own dialogue.
LIZ: How do they know what said is?
PAZ: Oh, it's a big fat zero. The dialogue tag.
LIZ: Wouldn't they be like, you'll never guess what Bluestar meowed to me.
PAZ: Oh, God.
JULIAN: Do you want to know how many times meowed is used?
PAZ: Oh, yeah.
LIZ: Yeah.
JULIAN: 300.
LIZ: Oh my goodness.
PAZ: Oh my god.
LIZ: I can hear it. It's just like 20 to 30 cats meowing at you.
PAZ: Oh boy, well, um, no updates in writing style there, I guess.
JULIAN: I think that's probably in the style Bible.
PAZ: God. I wonder.
LIZ: If you want to be an Erin, and you come up with your draft, and you use said as a dialogue tag, they're gonna be like, [claps] No.
PAZ: Even once.
LIZ: We're going to Ctrl-F. We're going to replace. Listen, we love the rest of this. But we do things a certain way here. It's about consistency.
JULIAN: I wonder if the cats chirp at all.
LIZ: Oh, my God.
PAZ: See, that's how cats would talk to each other.
JULIAN: Because that's how cats communicate.
LIZ: Yeah.
JULIAN: Nope. None.
PAZ: Unbelievable.
LIZ: Maybe later.
JULIAN: I guess does have like a sort of--
PAZ: Bouncy vibe to it.
JULIAN: It has like a very cheerful energy to it.
LIZ: They can be cheerful sometimes.
PAZ: Well they should use it sometimes, then, unless these cats are never cheerful.
LIZ: They are. I hope they're happier. Yeah.
PAZ: Well, I think we were talking about Whitestorm. My note on him is he seems like real cool and chill and I don't understand why he wasn't made deputy.
LIZ: He didn't want to. He just didn't want to.
PAZ: I mean, I guess that means he got to live for now, at least, so.
JULIAN: Whitestorm has like cool uncle vibes.
LIZ: Cool uncle who's like-- he's got a little bit more brain. He's not gonna get, you know, murdered immediately maybe.
PAZ: Yeah.
JULIAN: Yeah, he's the uncle who like at family gatherings you like, go out to the porch because people are fighting and like, he's just chilling out there with a drink. And you just like make eye contact and nod at each other.
PAZ: I love that.
LIZ: He's having a White Claw. He's like, okay, you're 13. Have a Lacroix.
PAZ: But then chapter two is just the Gathering, basically. Cat politics are back. They're still going at it.
JULIAN: I feel like ShadowClan has got to stop electing or like choosing to elect leaders who have rancid names. Make Runningnose leader.
PAZ: Night is not as bad as Broken, I guess, but it's still...
JULIAN: Yeah, no, it's not.
LIZ: It's just kind of goth, I guess.
PAZ: But he sucks too, and so does Crookedstar apparently.
JULIAN: Damn, who'da thunk?
LIZ: Why doesn't he have like a river-themed one? Why isn't he also like, Wetfoot or something? Wetstar?
PAZ: Wetass.
LIZ: We can't do that here.
JULIAN: Okay, okay.
PAZ: We can't use that. Sorry, I just-- you can't use that word.
LIZ: Mm-mm.
PAZ: I just see Castiel from Supernatural's face--
LIZ: No.
PAZ: --in my mind's eye.
JULIAN: Bringing it back. Bringing it back.
LIZ: We've gone too far. Oh, no. Fishstar.
JULIAN: Yeah, no, I'm... yeah, Fishstar. Hookstar would be fun.
PAZ: Sinister.
JULIAN: Like, you know, he's really good at scooping fish out of water. Um, give them a little... little tricky vibe. But not like as bad as Crookedstar.
LIZ: No, it's just roguish. It's not just evil.
JULIAN: Yeah.
PAZ: Prawnstar. Eyyy. Like, like monster.
JULIAN: Do they have crayfish in England?
PAZ: That's what I was wondering. I'm like, I don't know. That's why I said prawn.
JULIAN: Bringing back our little section of animal googling.
LIZ: Yes.
JULIAN: I can't believe I said crayfish. Crawfish.
PAZ: He could be... He could be Crawstar.
LIZ: Wait, is there a difference?
PAZ: I don't know.
LIZ: Also, yes. Do you know why?
PAZ: Why?
LIZ: Well, there's only one. There's not really any reason why. But they are called white-clawed crayfish.
PAZ: Oh.
LIZ: Yeah, see? It's all ring theory.
JULIAN: There you go.
PAZ: Whiteclaw is in RiverClan.
LIZ: "Due the introduction of non-native North American signal crayfish." Oops.
PAZ: Woopsie.
LIZ: Oh no.
JULIAN: You just gotta eat them. You gotta eat more of them.
LIZ: Yeah.
PAZ: Get on it, RiverClan.
JULIAN: God, I want crawfish. All right, um.
LIZ: I'm so hungry, guys.
PAZ: Me too.
JULIAN: It does suck that-- the cat politics-- it sucks that RiverClan, having just come from being like, no, ShadowClan, you can't encroach on our territory, is like, but it's okay if we encroach on WindClan's and like, don't let them come back.
PAZ: What the fuck?
LIZ: It was instant.
JULIAN: What's wrong with y'all?
PAZ: Yeah, like real shitty.
JULIAN: Also, again, I agree with whichever cat was like, there's just some scrawny rabbits up there. Like, yeah, what do y'all want?
PAZ: Yeah, like WindClan already is like, toughing it out up there. Like, just let them come back. You're not gonna get much out of it.
LIZ: It sounds like WindClan is like maybe five people at this point.
PAZ: Oh, God. Well, maybe that was like a Crookedstar homophobia moment. I found it interesting that Tigerclaw was so adamant about WindClan coming back, though. Just I guess it wasn't clear in the text if he like-- it wasn't indicated that he was like saying that like untruthfully, in any way. So I wasn't sure if he was just supposed to-- yeah.
JULIAN: Yeah, he seems like very much in support of WindClan, which I didn't expect.
PAZ: Yeah, it's just odd. Like, I don't know, I guess because he really only cares about his ambitions so far.
JULIAN: Yeah, I guess it also helps-- like if he is publicly backing up Bluestar, that kind of helps him solidify his position with her.
PAZ: That could be it, but just like it wasn't written in the way to make that like clear that that was his goal. So I was like, is he being genuine? I don't know. It's interesting.
JULIAN: Yeah, no, that's me just like, coming up with possible evil motivations for that. He might just be pro WindClan.
PAZ: Wow, I have something in common with Tigerclaw finally.
LIZ: Yeah, the introduction of having like that in common with Bluestar and Fireheart is like, I think it's really interesting because like, oh, no, now what do I do? It's like that Lord Of the Rings meme, right, with the I can't believe I'm whatever. I don't know. I've seen Lord of the Rings once.
PAZ: Fighting side by side with a dwarf. Fighting side by side with an elf. Yeah.
LIZ: Except still evil at some point, right? Mm.
PAZ: Yeah. Yeah, it was interesting. I am curious to see his attitude towards WindClan down the road, I guess. Like where is that coming from?
JULIAN: And he like, when they go to prep for their their secret mission, he's very supportive, and trying give them advice. Which I kind of expected him to use this as an opportunity to try to bump off Fireheart but.
LIZ: He loves to do that.
JULIAN: I guess it would be too suspicious.
PAZ: Yeah, I mean, like, maybe he's hoping that but it didn't seem like that.
JULIAN: Yeah, I don't think he has it in for Fireheart at this point.
PAZ: Not at the moment.
LIZ: No.
PAZ: Cause he was like, make sure to avoid Nightpelt and stuff like that. I guess if he really wanted Fireheart killed, he would have sent them directly towards Nightpelt. I don't know.
JULIAN: Or just been like, oh, make sure that you like walk on the Thunderpath. Disguise your scent.
PAZ: Oh, God.
JULIAN: Maybe you can take a shortcut through snake hell.
PAZ: I do hope we get to see more comical Tigerclaw like trying to murder someone publicly.
LIZ: Yeah.
PAZ: It was very funny last book.
JULIAN: It was very like Tom and Jerry, like cartoonishly large hammer.
LIZ: Tom v. Tom. I do like the conflict, I guess, like inner conflict that it brings up in Fireheart. Because like, he's using his brain, which is still so novel to me, that I'm like, whenever it happens, I'm just like, yes, do it. I know you can do it. I believe in you.
PAZ: He's learning. He's growing stronger as a warrior.
LIZ: I guess it also gives, like, some reasoning as to why Bluestar is giving any shit about like, keeping him where he is. Like, if, if he's, you know, like agreeing and making things or like taking her side and stuff. Like you guys said, it's like a good political thing.
PAZ: Yeah, I mean, Bluestar always seems to like-- her reason for supporting him always seems to come back to like, he's very helpful to the clan and like, supportive of the clan. And that's why everyone likes him, question mark? So getting in the good graces.
JULIAN: I did really like the last line of the third chapter.
PAZ: Oh, I think I remember.
JULIAN: "As he raced through the tunnel, Fireheart heard the ferns rustling in the morning breeze. They seem to be whispering, 'Good luck! Travel safely.'" Which I thought was just really nice.
LIZ: That's very sweet.
PAZ: Yeah, that was just a nice little like good vibes moment.
JULIAN: Yeah.
PAZ: Also sets up the journey to be like, kind of exciting.
LIZ: It's kind of like an old fashioned way of writing like, adventure nature stuff, which I liked.
JULIAN: Yeah, it feels very, like kids adventure novel. I mean, this is a kids adventure novel, but like that very particular genre of like E. Nesbitt.
LIZ: Yeah, if this was a book about like Fireheart being a little teeny cat with like, pants and a shirt and like a knapsack full of bread or something.
PAZ: Wow.
LIZ: And a sword. This is what it would also be like.
PAZ: Picturing it.
JULIAN: Yep. It's just our podcast art, but with an orange cat instead of a gray one. Ideal.
LIZ: While we're in this section, I want to draw attention to something Graystripe says, which is he calls Fireheart "slow slug," which adorable.
PAZ: Graystripe has some really good like, sayings.
JULIAN: Yeah, why wasn't that on our list of cat insults?
PAZ: I don't know.
LIZ: We should be keeping that. Just keep it updated for reference.
JULIAN: Open up a wiki page. Just kidding. The Warriors wiki team is very, uh, strict.
PAZ: They seem... I don't want to get on their bad side. They'll send like a hit squad out for us.
JULIAN: The power of a team that can organize a wiki of that size that well is very frightening to me.
PAZ: Yes. I do gotta say, though, Bluestar, why are you sending out like the two youngest warriors on this important mission?
LIZ: Bluestar's brains this book are just gone.
JULIAN: She's like, Oh, it's because the other warriors have to hunt. And it's like, you don't want to send your like seasoned warriors who might have some political savvy out to handle the bringing back the clan that was driven from their home job?
PAZ: Yeah, they're essentially going as like diplomats, like diplomats and rescue team. Like you'd think you would send someone who's a good like representation of your clan out.
JULIAN: Like send Whitestorm.
PAZ: Right?
LIZ: Yeah, he's great.
JULIAN: Not these two apprentices who-- Fireheart has never met WindClan. And Graystripe like, is--
LIZ: A centrist.
JULIAN: --has only [laughs] yeah. He's a centrist. And also, he's only been known to WindClan as like a child. So I don't think that this like traumatized clan is going to want to go with them.
PAZ: Right? It's so weird.
LIZ: I think like the reason the book gives is like, oh, you guys are the only ones who know what WindClan smells like right now. And that's also easily something-- you don't have to send both of them. Just send one of them and like, an adult.
PAZ: Yeah. Well, I'm not sure about that one, Bluestar. But okay.
JULIAN: Well, Fireheart will have to use his protagonist aura.
PAZ: Yeah. Maybe she was counting on that.
LIZ: Bluestar has such a serious case of like, dumb for the plot. It's so...
PAZ: Right?
LIZ: The crime against the girlbossiest of girlbosses. I don't know.
PAZ: How could they do this? Yeah, I mean, but that's kind of the end of that reading section. Just they're going out on their journey. I do have to say, I wish Fireheart would realize he was having like prophetic dreams. He was like, well, the other ones were prophetic, but this one isn't, probably. It's fine.
JULIAN: I'm sure this one is fine and normal.
LIZ: You know, it's okay that he's still so dumb. Because if he got smart, like, all at once, it would just be too much of a character shift. This feels good and familiar.
JULIAN: Yeah. Yeah. I also think like, if I had like, a couple of prophetic dreams, and then had a dream that like, seemed just sort of like bad vibes, I would be like, Oh, I don't want this dream to be prophetic. So I'm gonna decide that it's not
PAZ: Yeah, that was kind of what he did. And he was also like, I don't want Tigerclaw to like, get on my case about this. So, um, it was probably fine. I'll just go back to sleep.
LIZ: It's procrastination if you're like a prophet.
PAZ: StarClan is like sending these down, like, hello? Hello? Open your texts.
LIZ: These are StarClan emails.
JULIAN: Fireheart's 5000 unopened emails.
LIZ: Dear Fireheart, hope you're well. Was just wanting to check up on the last email that I sent you. Have you had a chance to look at it? Please let me know as soon as you can. Regards, StarClan.
JULIAN: Graystripe, meanwhile, over here at inbox zero.
LIZ: StarClan voice, per my last email.
JULIAN: Purr my last email? Sorry.
LIZ: Ooh. Well done. [claps]
PAZ: The dreams are very like sad though.
JULIAN: Yeah. Why can't he have a good prophetic dream?
PAZ: Prophetic dream that he'll catch a big rabbit tomorrow. I don't know. I don't know what would be a good cat dream.
JULIAN: I guess his dreams when he was a kittypet, those prophetic dreams were good dreams. He got to catch a mouse.
LIZ: Prophetic dream about being able to eat cheese for the first time because he gets invited to Ravenpaw and Barley's wedding on the farm, and the farmers have left some cheese out as a wedding gift.
PAZ: Wow.
JULIAN: Wow. He can't have too much, though. It'll upset his little tummy.
PAZ: Well, just a little nibble.
LIZ: Just a little, just a little.
PAZ: As a treat. Well, I'm excited to for next reading.
JULIAN: Yeah, I think we're gonna have some good journey content.
PAZ: Yeah, I love when the cats go places, you know?
JULIAN: It's good.
PAZ: Cats on the move. I mean, does that end our little reading section?
JULIAN: Yeah, I think we covered it.
LIZ: Yeah. Though I am looking at my bookmark, which talks about Dappletail again. And it calls it, "the once-beautiful queen Dappletail spoke up in a voice cracked with age."
PAZ: Just Grizabella.
JULIAN: This is just...
PAZ: She's gonna start belting out Memory any second now.
JULIAN: I started to, like, trying to remember the tune so I could sing it, or like part of it, but all I could remember was Agony from Into the Woods. (singing to the tune of "Agony") Memory. Uh, Anyway.
PAZ: Anyway, let's move on to our next thing. I was thinking we could click around MIT Scratch Warriors community.
JULIAN: Hell yes.
PAZ: Which we were introduced to last episode. There is truly so much here. I don't understand it.
[meow]
LIZ: What is...
JULIAN: Oh, this is delightful.
LIZ: What is MIT Scratch really?
PAZ: I don't know. Let me go look at their about.
JULIAN: So yeah, so Blue said it was like a-- it's like a site for kids to kind of learn how to code. So it's, you know, like, this is how you put together an animation, or like a program, or like a little game. But you don't have to actually write the code. You just learn how to kind of do if/then types of things and dependencies and that sort of thing.
LIZ: That's sweet.
PAZ: But it's extremely funny that a Warriors community has made itself at home here.
LIZ: I think that just... it feels natural.
JULIAN: Yeah. Oh, there's a bunch of remixes of this Make a Clan link. Or no, there's just one.
PAZ: Where is... Oh God. Oh, God. I can't see anything. Oh, mm? Aah.
JULIAN: Oh. Hello? I'm gonna make this full screen.
PAZ: Oh, that might help things. I didn't-- no. That didn't really help things. We're looking at a game--
JULIAN: This cat is talking to me, but I can't--
PAZ: We're looking at a game called Make a Clan. There is a cat talking to us but it is covered by a bajillion windows.
JULIAN: How do I hide these?
PAZ: I don't know. I don't think we can.
LIZ: Don't be a coward. Click in all of that.
PAZ: Oh, I think the cat's saying, What's your clans name? Well, CrabClan. If I type it in, will it accept it? Okay, yes, it accepted it. What's your leaders name? It was--
LIZ: Alix.
PAZ: Larkstar and-- was it, no. What'd you end up, Julian?
JULIAN: Oh, I don't remember. I think I stuck with Pinestar, maybe? Pine, whatever the fuck. Pinestripe.
PAZ: Pinestar. There we go. Oh, I think I filled it out wrong. Oh no. Aw.
LIZ: Well then, we can't make a clan.
PAZ: I don't know about this one, guys.
LIZ: We got booted.
JULIAN: Oh, yeah, I've put it in as the clan name. Whoops.
PAZ: Well.
JULIAN: Yeah, we might have to pick another one. Oh, I'm gonna-- let's see.
PAZ: Do we want to check out this one that I found? A Day in the Life of a Clan Leader.
JULIAN: Yeah, let's do this.
PAZ: I'm loving the music.
JULIAN: Oh, there are instructions. The game is unfinished.
PAZ: Oh god, the music just changed.
LIZ: Oh god, it's so loud.
JULIAN: "To pick your cat, just click on it. To move, use the right or left arrow keys. To travel around, click the entrance of the place you want to go. To hunt the mouse, just click on it." This is very interactive.
PAZ: So we got FireClan, CloudClan, and LeafClan to choose from. Who are we gonna choose?
JULIAN: Oh god, it's so loud.
LIZ: It's very loud. Hey, if you click right and left, you can make the cat dance.
PAZ: We gotta choose our cat. Which clan are we gonna choose?
JULIAN: I vote LeafClan.
LIZ: Me too.
PAZ: Yeah, I'm feeling that. That's Willowstar.
JULIAN: Willowstar has a little diamond in the center of their forehead, which I think is great.
PAZ: Willowstar is like gray and white.
JULIAN: Our other options are Dapplestar, who has a little star, and then Ashstar, who has emo bangs.
PAZ: So it kind of puts your cat in this scene. And you kind of just click places. Oh. So I just clicked into the medicat. Lovely array of like herbs and stuff here. Let's see. Let's see what's up. "The Gathering is tonight. Get ready." Okay. Oh my god. If you press space, they meow.
JULIAN: Aw.
PAZ: I don't know if I can leave this conversat-- okay, yeah, they just go back outside.
JULIAN: Uh-oh. I moved too far to the left.
PAZ: Camp exit. Okay, we're out of the camp. Willowstar? I already can't remember. "I must find prey for my clan. Click the rock to start." Okay, I'm clicking the rock.
LIZ: The medic area looks like it just has cookies.
PAZ: Might have hit a dead end here.
JULIAN: Those are the strongest potions. Yeah, I can't click the rock.
PAZ: Well, that's a day in the life of a leader.
LIZ: Wow. I like the meow function.
PAZ: Yeah, the meow function is great. I think all games should implement that. I have found Warrior Cats Text Adventure.
JULIAN: Oh, that might be a little bit easier.
PAZ: Yeah.
LIZ: Let's do that one.
PAZ: Let's try this one out.
LIZ: Hey, should we screenshare this?
PAZ: Oh yeah, I guess I'll just do that.
LIZ: First screen shared podcast.
PAZ: Okay, we seem to be starting in media res here.
JULIAN: Uh-oh. Try hitting stop and then the green flag again. The stop button up at the top. Oh, there you go. We've started at the beginning.
PAZ: Choose your clan. RiverClan. Oh, they got stats. Oh.
LIZ: Ooh.
JULIAN: Oh shit.
PAZ: RiverClan stats. No, this is WindClan, sorry.
JULIAN: No, that's WindClan.
PAZ: WindClan stats. Speed, 10. Strength, 2. Smarts, 5. Stealth, 5. Swim, 2.
LIZ: Actually, it's stregth.
PAZ: Oh sorry. Stregth.
JULIAN: Stregth.
PAZ: Yes. Oh, that's a special stat that only WindClan has, cause RiverClan just has strength. No, wait.
JULIAN: No, they also have stregth.
PAZ: Wow, you're right. They all have stregth. Stregth. Well, okay. Hey, I have issues with these stats. RiverClan has speed 2, stregth 10, smarts 10, stealth five, swim 10. I think RiverClan's a little OP here.
JULIAN: RiverClan seems kind of OP.
LIZ: Looks like someone has favorites. Hmm.
JULIAN: Can we see what ThunderClan's smart status is? Yeah, that seems about right.
PAZ: Yeah, so ThunderClan's stats are speed 5, stregth 8, smart 5, stealth 5, swim 2.
LIZ: I think smart should be less.
JULIAN: Yeah, I would give them a 2.
PAZ: I would give WindClan more smarts honestly.
LIZ: Yeah, they're like surviving. They've got this.
PAZ: So ShadowClan's stats are speed 5, stregth 8, speed 5, stealth 10, swim 2.
LIZ: Okay, one, I think any clan that isn't RiverClan should have swim 0.
PAZ: That's true. They all have swim 2 except RiverClan. Well, I don't want to choose RiverClan on the basis that they're OP.
JULIAN: I think we should go WindClan.
PAZ: I agree. We're gonna celebrate them this book.
LIZ: Yeah.
PAZ: "Clan leader: Well, well, well, it seems we have received a new warrior. I name you." I think it has given me one. I don't know if I can change it.
JULIAN: Our autogenerated name is Timberburr.
PAZ: I'll take it, you know? Gotta respect what the leader says. "Press space to begin your adventure." Does somebody want to...
JULIAN: Sure.
PAZ: --be this cat.
JULIAN: "Greetings, new warrior. Would you like to join me on a hunting patrol?" This is Stormclaw.
PAZ: That's so...
LIZ: What happens if you say no?
PAZ: Yes or no. Do we want to say no?
LIZ: Yeah.
JULIAN: I want to say no. "That's fine. I'll go with some other cat."
PAZ: "He walks away. A second warrior pads over." Wanna do that, Liz?
LIZ: Oh, I can do it. Clawstrike says, "if you aren't going on patrol, you might as well make yourself useful. The elders need new bedding. The apprentices brough the new moss in, but you can clear away the old moss."
PAZ: "In the elders den, an elder peers at you."
JULIAN: (creakily) "Thank you for doing this."
PAZ: "A second spots you and begins mewing rapidly."
LIZ: Okay. (high-pitched and wavery) "Finally. Young cats these days. That reminds me of when I was young. There was this fox, see, attacking the clans, and I knew that it needed to learn a blah blah blah blah blah."
[laughing]
PAZ: "You finish long before the story is done and exit the den."
JULIAN: This is so rude.
LIZ: I wanna hear about the fox.
PAZ: "The next day... as you stand in camp, you hear something. Before you can move, an enemy clan invades your camp. You find yourself face to face with a snarling enemy cat. You must perform a move against your enemy."
JULIAN: Oh shit.
PAZ: So we can either leap and hold, front paw blow, upright lock, or a tail yank.
LIZ: Tail yank.
JULIAN: I vote tail yank.
PAZ: Okay. Oh god. "You grab your enemy's tail in your teeth and yank, but her twists and slices your chest."
LIZ: No.
JULIAN: Our health has dropped from 20 to 16.
PAZ: Oh God.
LIZ: Oh my god.
JULIAN: Oh shit.
LIZ: We died?
PAZ: We Dark Souls died. "Just then, the order sounds for your clan to retreat. Clan leader: we are defeated." Huge letters. "You lose."
LIZ: We died.
JULIAN: Well, that was quick.
PAZ: Um, well, Warriors games are unforgiving, apparently.
LIZ: Should we replay with better stats?
PAZ: Okay. Do we wanna stay true to our allegiances or go be OP?
LIZ: Let's be OP.
PAZ: Okay, fine. We'll cave to this author's favoritism and be RiverClan. Oh my god.
LIZ: What?
JULIAN: Oh no, we're Ashfur.
LIZ: Wait a minute. Hold on.
PAZ: Ashfur really is like the John of Warriors names.
LIZ: Ashfur, parentheses, no relation.
PAZ: Well, we're Ashfur. Okay. Here we go.
JULIAN: Oh, it's the same warrior.
LIZ: Stormclaw, no relation.
JULIAN: Stormclaw would like us to join him on a sun hunting patrol. Again.
PAZ: Should we say yes this time maybe?
JULIAN: Yeah, let's see what it's like.
LIZ: Yeah.
PAZ: "You walk out of camp. In the hunting grounds of your clan."
JULIAN: (bombastically) "I smell mouse. How about you catch it for your first catch as a warrior?"
LIZ: "Moss says, squeak."
PAZ: No, it's "squeaks softly."
LIZ: Oh, excuse me. (whispering) Squeaks softly.
PAZ: What's our stealth? Not very good. Our speed's not very good. Maybe we should pounce. We're very strong.
LIZ: Yeah.
JULIAN: We can pounce, stalk, or chase, and I think pounce is probably...
PAZ: "When you pounce, the mouse does not notice until too late. With a powerful leap, you catch it and swiftly nip its neck."
JULIAN: (cheerfully) "Wow. Nice catch. That was a great pounce."
PAZ: "His voice is muffled by the feathers of a thrush he caught."
JULIAN: [garbled speech]
PAZ: "You walk back to camp."
LIZ: Which is, by the way, in capital letters.
PAZ: "In your clan's camp. The clan leader says."
LIZ: "Impressive. Good job, both of you."
PAZ: "She nods at you and Stormclaw before vanishing into her den."
JULIAN: "It was fun hunting with you. Now I'll go ask if I'm wanted on moonhigh patrol. If not, I going straight to sleep."
PAZ: "He walks away."
LIZ: This guy is an NPC.
PAZ: He talks like an Oblivion NPC.
LIZ: "I'm going straight to sleep."
JULIAN: What is the difference between this and Oblivion, really?
PAZ: Yeah. I think Bethesda might have ripped some of this off.
LIZ: Mm, maybe you're onto something.
PAZ: "The next day." We're in battle again. "As you stand in the camp, you hear something. Before you can move, an enemy clan invades your camp. You must perform a move against your enemy."
LIZ: What if this was timed?
PAZ: Oh god. Okay, so we're very strong.
JULIAN: I think either leap and hold or front paw blow might be our best bets with strength.
PAZ: Yeah.
LIZ: Yeah.
PAZ: Front paw blow seems good.
LIZ: Yeah, one shot, one kill.
JULIAN: Yeah, let's just fucking punch em.
PAZ: "You slam your paw down on the enemy warrior's head. He hisses but is dazed for a heartbeat. You rake your claws down his chest and he backs away, growling. Just then the order sounds for the other clan to retreat. Your enemy bares his teeth at you and flees alongside his clanmates."
LIZ: Clan leader says, "we have won this battle. All the cats are to go and have their wounds, if they have any, treated by our medicine cat."
PAZ: "The medicine cat pads over and checks your pelt for injuries.
JULIAN: "I can't see or scent any injuries. But I'm out of goldenrod. Could you go gather me some?"
PAZ: We can say yes or no. I feel like saying no last time really fucked us up, maybe. I'll say yes.
LIZ: Yeah. "Thank you."
PAZ: "Outside camp, you search for the herbs and come across three places to check. You know that goldenrod does not grow in marshes." So we can either check ferns, under brambles, or in marsh.
JULIAN: I kinda wanna check in the marsh.
PAZ: Okay.
LIZ: That 10 smart is not accurate.
PAZ: "You pad into the marsh. The mud is thick and wet and you sink a tail length deep."
LIZ: Holy shit.
PAZ: "The mud covers your legs and belly and you struggle to get out. No sign of goldenrod, and now you're stuck." So we can either call for help or pull out. We're very strong.
JULIAN: We are very strong.
LIZ: Yeah.
PAZ: This'll be fine. We're gonna pull out.
LIZ: We're fine.
PAZ: "You try and pull yourself out. The mud clings to your fur, but you manage to get out. You walk back to camp."
LIZ: No consequences for our bad decision?
PAZ: No, I guess not.
JULIAN: I feel like we should have lost some health for like being cold and wet.
LIZ: Probably stinky, too. Oh, it's me. "Clan leader says, let all cats old enough to swim gather for a clan meeting." Oh boy. That was me. The oh boy is not canon. "One of our kits is ready to become an apprentice. Step forward, young one."
PAZ: "A kit scurries forward."
LIZ: (laughing) "From this moment on, you shall be known as Snailpaw."
PAZ: Just to be clear, Snailpaw is also an auto generated name. "The leader fixes her gaze on you."
LIZ: "You shall mentor this cat."
PAZ: "Your apprentice touches noses with you, looking excited."
JULIAN: (chirpily) "I'm gonna be the best warrior in the clan with you as a mentor."
LIZ: I got confused. They were both green text.
PAZ: "What will you do with your apprentice? Hunt. Battle train. Gather moss." This is such a tiny baby. I don't wanna battle train.
JULIAN: Right.
PAZ: They're too small.
LIZ: But I want to seem cool in front of my student. I don't think moss is gonna do it. Let's hunt.
PAZ: Maybe we should hunt, then.
JULIAN: We already hunted though.
PAZ: Well, these cats hunt every day.
LIZ: What if the baby gets hungry? Do we want to gather moss?
PAZ: Let's go hunt.
LIZ: Alright.
PAZ: "You take your apprentice to your clan's hunting grounds."
JULIAN: (high-pitched) "I smell bird."
PAZ: "You teach them the proper bird hunting technique and they begin to stalk a small finch." We can either help your apprentice or let them do it. I'm happy to help our young apprentice, Snailpaw.
LIZ: Yeah.
JULIAN: I feel like as the apprentice, I can't chime in.
LIZ: Let's help.
PAZ: This is their first day. Let's help.
LIZ: Yeah.
PAZ: "The apprentice luges at the bird. And it flutters towards you. You catch and kill it."
JULIAN: (high-pitched) "That was fun. We make a great team."
PAZ: Aw.
LIZ: Aw.
PAZ: "You go back to camp, for the sun is setting."
LIZ: Oh, the prey count also is 2. We did it.
JULIAN: Oh yay.
LIZ: "Clan leader says, oh good, you're back. You had better get some sleep. Now."
JULIAN: (high-pitched) "Thank you for the training."
PAZ: "Your apprentice pads into the apprentices' den and you go to the warriors' den to get some sleep. The next day, the deputy pads over to you."
LIZ: Who wants to do the cowboy voice for this? It can't me.
JULIAN: (laughing) I can do it. [clears throat] (in a very bad Southern accent) "I want you to go on a border patrol by the river with several other warriors." I don't know what happened there.
PAZ: It was perfect.
"At the river."
LIZ: Oh.
JULIAN: Who the fuck is Darkflight?
LIZ: I don't know. "Darkflight says, we should spread out."
PAZ: "Each warrior pads to a different area. You hear a small wail and sight two kits from a different clan floundering weakly in the river." We either help them or leave them.
LIZ: That's a real Bioshock choice there.
JULIAN: Well, help them of course.
PAZ: Yeah, our swim is 10. We're fucking going in there. "You spring into the river to save the kits. Being RiverClan, you swim quickly and nimbly, and are able to reach the kits in time. You haul them out of the river and manage to save them. A patrol from the kits' clan arrives, thanks you, and takes the kits back. Your patrol gapes at you, but you pad back to the camp in silence."
JULIAN: What the fuck is wrong with our patrol?
LIZ: Yeah.
PAZ: Yeah, I can't-- is that like, judgment? You want them to just die? Jesus.
LIZ: Maybe it's um, gaping at us because we swim so good because we have 10 swim.
PAZ: Yeah, it better be in like awe. Oh my god. We won.
LIZ: Holy shit.
PAZ: We won.
JULIAN: We did it.
LIZ: Oh my god.
PAZ: "In camp."
LIZ: "Darkflight says, I'll report back to our leader."
PAZ: "She pads away. The clan leader soon approaches you."
LIZ: Clan leader, who sounds exactly the same, says, "By saving those kits, you have averted war between our clans. May StarClan honor you."
PAZ: "You win" and then there's a little fun animatic of the title, like the Warriors title, pixelating in and out. Wow.
LIZ: I can't believe we did it. Woo.
JULIAN: Incredible, we did it.
PAZ: We did it, guys.
JULIAN: We won at-- we were the best at being a cat.
LIZ: Game of the year. That's all I ever wanted.
PAZ: Because we were incredibly OP.
JULIAN: I think that was it. It's just that we were RiverClan.
LIZ: Yeah, if we hadn't had that 10 swim.
PAZ: Yeah, I feel like this game seems extremely biased towards RiverClan. I don't agree with that. I don't know. That's pretty good.
JULIAN: Yeah, I think that was good.
PAZ: I'm happy to end there on our victory.
LIZ: Yeah. We've got lots of time for more gaming next time.
JULIAN: Right.
PAZ: Exactly.
JULIAN: There's a whole universe here on MIT Scratch.
PAZ: There's so many games. How many-- will it show me a page count? No, it will not show me a page count. Or how many there are. But I assure you, there are a lot.
LIZ: Who needs--
JULIAN: Well, we'll have to link that one in the...
PAZ: Yes.
JULIAN: On the Twitter so that the audience can see if they have any more success as ThunderClan or ShadowClan.
PAZ: Yeah. Um, yeah, I mean, I guess that's gonna do it for us today. Gonna keep going at it with Fire and Ice next week. As always, you can find the show @staircast on Twitter and send in any questions or anecdotes you want to share to [email protected]. And next week, we'll be reading chapters four through seven. So if you're reading along, that's where we'll be at. And until then, may StarClan light your path. Bye.
JULIAN: Bye.
LIZ: Bye.
[outro music]
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Black Clover EP#04 - The Magic Knights Entrance Exam: Asta and Yuno head toward the colosseum in the royal capital for the Magic Knights Entrance Exam, while looking around and admiring all the things they’ve never seen before.
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans Season 2 EP#10 (35) - Awaking Calamity: Orga tells McGillis of the Gundam Flauros and the Pluma that Tekkadan excavated on Mars, along with a much larger unit discovered in the area. McGillis tells him to stop the excavation immediately, revealing what they discovered is an ancient Mobile Armor; a forbidden piece of technology that caused both the Calamity War and the mass casualties associated with the conflict. Meanwhile, Jasley has his men spy on Tekkadan and McGillis' activities, before informing Rustal's fleet of McGillis' secret trip to Mars through his connections with the Kujan Family. Vidar suspects that McGillis is out to destroy the Mobile Armor to earn the Order of the Seven Stars; the highest honor within Gjallarhorn. Aboard the Saisei, Tekkadan and Teiwaz's mechanics activate the Pluma, which wreaks havoc on the hangar. Upon his arrival on Mars, McGillis reveals to Tekkadan that Mobile Armors are fully automated, therefore making them capable of unrestrained violence, and that Mobile Suits - especially the Gundams - were created to destroy them. As soon as Tekkadan and McGillis reach the excavation site, Iok and his platoon stage an ambush to arrest McGillis, but the presence of their Mobile Suits accidentally activates the Mobile Armor.
JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders EP#19 - Death 13, Part 1: Kakyoin has a dream where he is in a deserted amusement park, accompanied only by a dog. Suddenly, the Death tarot card appears, and he is attacked by its image, the Stand Death 13, killing the dog, before Polnareff wakes him up to tell him that they are on the way out of town. Kakyoin becomes concerned when he finds his hand has been cut in his sleep, and more so when he spots the dog he saw in his dreams, killed in the same manner as he saw in the dream. When the two catch up with the others, Joseph is arguing with a man he had planned to rent a plane from, who has now refused to let him go as they need to get a baby to the hospital. Joseph offers to take the child with them, and a woman with the child agrees. As the group takes off, the woman says she must find the child's mother, admitting that the child, Mannish Boy, is not her own, and she was scared of his fangs. While in flight, both Kakyoin and Polnareff fall asleep and find themselves at the amusement park, again. Kakyoin tries to warn Polnareff that he was attacked in his dreams by a Stand, using the dead dog as proof, but Polnareff does not seem to pay much attention, until Death 13 makes itself known once more, attacking the two of them. They find that in their dreams they cannot summon their Stands to fight back, but before Death 13 lands a mortal blow on Polnareff, Joseph wakes him up to have him change the baby's diaper, leaving Kakyoin on his own. As Death 13 is revealed to be the Stand of Mannish Boy, Kakyoin cuts his own arm, as he thrashes about in his sleep, causing Joseph to crash the plane. As the team sets up camp to prepare for rescue, Kakyoin sees that he has cut the words "Baby Stand" into his arm, leading him to realize that the child they have been taking with them is their attacker. He tries to warn the others, but they do not believe him, as Mannish Boy is pleased that his plans to kill the group are succeeding.
Lupin the 3rd EP#24 - I'm Going to Get You Lupin: Rebecca realizes she is truly in love with Lupin, and announces to Italy that she'll be able to capture him. In the meantime, Lupin continues to break into various banks without stealing anything, and Rebecca understands that he's searching for something in particular. It's the beginning of a great battle between the two, with the final stand that will take place inside the last bank. At the end, Rebecca finds out that Lupin was in search of a single banknote in order to win a bet with Jigen, and they somehow manage to safely escape the police, even with Robson's help, proving to be quite a fine couple. Despite this, at the end Lupin decides to escape, and Robson, despite his concerns, decides to let Rebecca live as she pleases.
Hunter x Hunter: The Chimera Ant Arc EP#78 - Very × Rapid × Reproduction: Kite and his party trace the whereabouts of the Chimera Queen and conclude that it is located in the neo-ludite nation of NGL. As both Kite's group and another separate team of hunters depart to NGL to investigate, the Queen establishes her stronghold and instructs her soldiers to gather a huge number of humans for her to consume in order to give birth to the King.
Outlaw Star EP#16 - Demon of the Water Planet: Gene, Jim, and Melfina are contracted by an old man to recover a shipment of dragonite ore from a ship that crashed on the water planet Heifong VII, which leads to a battle with the creature guarding the ship and its ore. Once the dragonite ore had been loaded onto the ship, the old man sacrifices himself to the creature in order for the crew to safely escape from the planet.
Cowboy Bebop EP#14 - Bohemian Rhapsody: The Bebop crew hunts for Chessmaster Hex, the rumored mastermind behind a series of robberies at hyperspace gate tollbooths. However, while trying to dig up dirt on their target, they unearth some very valuable data regarding the gate accident that devastated Earth fifty years earlier.
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig EP#08 (34) - "DI: Vegetarian Dinner – FAKE FOOD: Tired of Goda's manipulation, Aramaki decides to take the initiative and conduct his own investigation into the Individual Eleven case while simultaneously looking into the Cabinet Intelligence Agency. Section 9 is split into two teams, one focused on digging up additional info on the two cases and the other tasked with locating an ex-GSDA officer identified as a person of interest in a series of shootings at a local TV station. While on a stakeout of a Taiwanese vegetarian restaurant, Batou and Togusa find out that Section 1 has been fed false information about the same ex-GSDA soldier, and have set out to kill him on the assumption that the man is a world-renowned terrorist. Batou and Togusa arrive too late to save the man, and both sides determine that someone behind the scenes is feeding disinformation to both Section 9 and Section 1.
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55EBde strengthens info drive, publishes 1st magazine
#PHinfo: 55EBde strengthens info drive, publishes 1st magazine
ILIGAN CITY, Oct. 27 (PIA) –– As the 55th Engineer "Mangumpiya" Brigade (55EBde) celebrates its 22nd founding anniversary Monday, October 26, at its headquarters in Balo-i town, Lanao del Norte, the unit also published its first magazine packaging feature articles on the efforts, accomplishments, and unique stories of its troops.
Entitled 'The Mangumpiya Chronicles', they named the magazine after the brigade's moniker 'mangumpiya', derived from a M'ranao word which means 'builders of progress'.
"From almost nothing to something, this is how I describe the 55th Engineer Brigade from its reactivation until today. The brigade had truly experienced birthpains from the moment it was reactivated. But these challenges turned into opportunities that pushed us to perform our duties as 'builders'," said BGen. Nestor I. Abando, 55EBde's brigade commander.
The cohesive endeavor of its publishing team spearheaded by Abando started every single detail of its publication from scratch.
With the help of its officers and some enlisted personnel (EP), they've covered, written, captured, and gathered significant events that harnessed the skills of 55EBde's troops in nation-building through infrastructure and civic-efforts.
Contents including the struggles and gradual success of the brigade's rehabilitation in war-torn Marawi city, the plight of the COVID-19 pandemic, community-building, and in keeping their sworn duties in achieving sustainable peace within their area of responsibility (AOR).
Meanwhile, as the guest of honor in the celebration of the unit's anniversary, Lt. Gen. Cirilito E. Sobejana, commanding general of the Philippine Army (CGPA), in his speech cited that empowering the people by providing them the 'needed information' will enhance the mobilization of security as a shared responsibility.
"We have to come up with a good information operations so that the level of awareness among our people is high," he remarked.
In appreciation of the unit's mark in its fight and sacrifice for a peaceful Mindanao, CGPA emphasized the role of the army engineers in nation-building and making their efforts known to the public.
"55EBde, maraming salamat Mangumpiya troopers, ipinagmamalaki ng Philippine Army and inyong mga programa para maingat and kapakanan ng mga mamayan, lalo ngayong sa panahon ng pandemya. Ipagpatuloy din ninyo and pagsuporta sa ating kasundaluhan at mga kababayan sa Hilagang Mindanao," the CGPA expressed. (CLGV/PIA-ICIC)
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* Philippine Information Agency. "55EBde strengthens info drive, publishes 1st magazine." Philippine Information Agency. https://pia.gov.ph/news/articles/1057062 (accessed October 26, 2020 at 11:37PM UTC+08).
* Philippine Infornation Agency. "55EBde strengthens info drive, publishes 1st magazine." Archive Today. https://archive.ph/?run=1&url=https://pia.gov.ph/news/articles/1057062 (archived).
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Amber Riley Delivers A Pitch Perfect Tribute To Late ‘Glee’ Co-Star Naya Rivera On ‘Kimmel’
Amber Riley delivered a heartfelt tribute to her late friend and “Glee” co-star Naya Rivera on “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” last night. See her moving performance inside…
The life of “Glee” alum Naya Rivera was cut short last month. Her body was recovered from Lake Piru in California after she and her 4-year-old son rented a pontoon boat to sail on the lake.
The “Glee” family and Hollywood were crushed with the shocking news.
I didn’t make it 15 seconds before I was a puddle. I love you Naya. RIP Angel
— Amber Patrice Riley (@MsAmberPRiley) August 28, 2020
Last night, Amber Riley paid tribute to her late “Glee” co-star with a pitch perfect performance of “A Moment,” introduced by guest host Lil Rel Howery. While filling the stage with her effortless vocals, a montage of photos of Naya and her son appeared on the screen behind her. Amber noted Naya’s mother gave her the pictures and she thanked her for it on Twitter:
Naya’s amazing mom gave me those photos. Thank you Mama Yoli continue to uplift and pray for them thank you @LilRel4 for letting me a part of your vision for our friend. Love you
— Amber Patrice Riley (@MsAmberPRiley) August 28, 2020
Watch her moving performance below:
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By the way, Amber’s self-titled EP drops October 2nd.
33-year-old Naya first went missing on July 8th after her 4-year-old son, Josey, was spotted sleeping alone on a pontoon boat in Lake Piru. Naya’s son told police that he and his mother went swimming in the lake. After swimming, she helped him on the boat, but when he looked back, she disappeared. After a five-day search, her body was recovered from the lake.On July 13th, police confirmed the body recovered from the lake was Naya.
Before her body was recovered, her family - including her ex-husband Ryan Dorsey - understandably and heartbreakingly stayed at the docks praying and hoping for her return.
Actor Tahj Mowry poured his heart out to Naya, calling her his first love, as police continued their search for her body over the weekend. Many fans have expressed how they wished he had told her how he felt about her before she went missing.
In 2014, Naya married actor Ryan Dorsey. They welcomed a son - Josey - before getting a divorce in 2018. Before she married the "Pitch" star, Naya was engaged to rapper Big Sean and was also romantically linked to her "Glee" co-star Mark Salling.
Two weeks after Naya’s death, Amber shared a collage of photos that featured herself and Naya singing together throughout the years. On “Glee,” Amber portrayed Mercedes Jones and Naya played Santana Lopez.
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Best duets on the show! PERIODT! Couldn’t tell us shxt Honorable mention, Troubletones, @heatherrelizabethh and @littlelengies miss you baby girl and I love you #NayaRivera I’m so mad the world will never see how high you could have soared. Her brain was brilliant. She was smart and as quick as a whip. Always had me in stitches, we would be in tears laughing so hard at one another. - There was never competition, or shade, or intimidation with us. Just pure adoration and mutual respect. You deserved better. You were so much more than just this show. Your talent outshined us all so many times! - Favorite Naya Moment: tour bus to London, Naya greasing her scalp with Doo Gro oil, a plastic cap and a silk bonnet my sister said “oh Naya you blackity black black” we burst out into laughter! We needed it too because we just wanted to get home to our families. We were alike in that way. We love hard, and protect our own, and we don’t take no shit from anyone (Kevin is literally the byproduct of US ) We can either slice you with our words, or bring you comfort with that same breath. Dealer’s choice. I say your name everyday and hold you in my heart, just like I do Cory. - We are working as a cast and crew and a family to come together and show love, and it’s all because of you. Your presence brought so much excitement, so much passion, so much joy, and in your absence you’re STILL holding us accountable and getting us together. I’ve cried until my tear ducts have dried out, now it’s time to celebrate the fact that us mere humans got to experience walking through life with an earth angel. Rest well. I pray you found the peace we all are searching for. - Please keep Naya’s family in your prayers. Please be mindful of the things you say to them or messages you send. If it’s anything beyond condolences and words of encouragement, keep it to yourself. All they need is love and good energy and support right now. We clear? Cool. Thank you
A post shared by Amber Riley (@msamberpriley) on Jul 23, 2020 at 5:48pm PDT
”Best duets on the show! PERIODT! Couldn’t tell us shxt,” Amber captioned. “I’m so mad the world will never see how high you could have soared. Her brain was brilliant. She was smart and as quick as a whip. Always had me in stitches, we would be in tears laughing so hard at one another.”
Aww!
Our hearts ache for her young son, who will never see his mother again. Extremely sad situation. Prayers up for Naya's family, friends and fans during this tragic time.
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