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sunnys-rewatch-blog · 2 years

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S2 Wrap-Up

Part 2

CW: Reference to teacher/student grooming and SA, the Montgomeries, reference of horrific crimes committed against babies

Okay, so, I might have suggested this before, but I'll say it again anyways. If PLL has to go making the protagonists' families into mini-soaps, I have some ideas that I think would make it a better watch. I would like to see Ezrella play out, and Byron- wallowing in self-pity- stumbles into Ashley Marin's arms; they bond over being separated from their partners or whatever. They develop a romance, we see Byron steamroll over Ashley a few times before he starts crossing boundaries with Hanna and inserting himself in places he shouldn't be, and Ashley finally tells him off. He ends up going to therapy and not making much of an appearance until later. They end up getting divorced and it stays that way, but maybe they could reconcile and become friends later. Meanwhile, on the Ezrella side, Aria is mad into Ezra and he uses this to leverage information from her about Alison's disappearance. I want a couple of scenes where it's blatantly obvious to the audience that he's doing this. Her crush on Ezra could affect her romance with an appropriate suitor (I still like the idea of Shawn/Aria, but Noel could also be a long-standing love interest) or keep her from developing one. Obviously, Ella would find out about the book and kick Ezra's ass out- because in this version of the story, Ella has standards. The showrunners could use the divorce to characterize Aria through her relationship with her brother (I think maybe this was what they were trying to do but it wasn't successful); I desperately want to see some narrative self-awareness on the show that Aria is being parentified and is vulnerable to abuse outside the home. They successfully manage to tell the story of how the systematic emotional abuse of a teenager left her vulnerable to the grooming and predation of an authority figure who pretends to care about her for his own personal gain- Ezra actually very closely matches the predatory teacher personality as documented by the people who study these kinds of things, as does his storyline (the practice of sending teachers to another district after they have been reported for sexual misconduct is a documented phenomenon known as "lemon passing" or "passing the trash"), to the point that I wonder if the writers did it this way as a covert joke on Marlene. However, in spite of the fact that Aria is a textbook victim and Ezra is a textbook predator, the writers seem completely unaware of what they wrote. Aria's family problems and completely inappropriate relationship are always treated like separate, disconnected things; Ezra is supposed to be her "true love" so their relationship isn't even meant to look like a problem that needs a cause and any family problems that are acknowledged aren't handled adequately.

Alright, I have spent far too much time on the Montgomery family, so it's time to move on. I want to talk about how queerness is treated in this show (and most others). This show in particular focuses super heavily on giving their lesbian character an unrealistically robust dating life, even at the expense of her characterization and the story, itself. Emily Fields is a character whose portrayal is designed by a lesbian and acted by a woman who chooses not to label her sexuality and she still reads like a lesbian as written and portrayed by cishets who have no experience in the queer community (except maybe their gay best friend). I'm not saying she's a bad character or even a poor rep, please enjoy my opinion with all the nuance it requires, I'm saying there are things about being queer that aren't directly related to your dating life and would make positive representation. For example, if you're the lone LGBTQ+ in your friend group (*and you usually are not, one friend coming out usually sends a shockwave of friends coming out around you), no matter how good your cishet friends are, you're going to want to find other queer people to share experiences with. Being accepted- even supported and encouraged- doesn't fill the need for a shared community. There's a lot you could do by including queer characters in the story who aren't love interests for Emily (or whatever was going on with Jenna, not to mention CeCe was trans). She is still the first lesbian to come out at her school and her role as a gay rep shouldn't be tied up in having a dating life that goes non-stop. It could have been cool to see the LGBTQ+ of Rosewood through Emily, maybe use her storyline to introduce the audience to some queer issues or represent even more marginalized identities (lesbians absolutely do need to be represented, especially as characters who actually survive the story, but at least anyone you talk to knows what a lesbian is; there are queer identities some people don't even know about, like aromantic and/or asexual, non-binary, gender-noncomforming- this show desperately needs more GNC folks- and although not all intersex people see themselves as queer and should not be forced to take the label, there is room for them in our community if they want to be included). I get that the story isn't meant to be educational, necessarily, but I feel like having an arc where Emily gets involved at that group where she met Samara and gets to know some people and learn more about the community she belongs to would have been a more satisfying watch than most of the filler they put on-screen, and it's not like we never see the other characters with other friends outside the group. We get to see Hanna with Lucas and Aria with Holden. They don't need to be heavy-handed with it, even just having a scene where she uses they/them or even neo-pronouns to refer to someone would be cool. And, being that she's apparently the first gay person to come out at a school where they apparently don't have a support group or alliance, she could very easily end up being someone that the baby queers of Rosewood High go to for advice ("How did you figure it out?" "Do you ever think maybe you should have been a boy?" "What does it feel like to get a crush?" etc). That's something they could do that would increase representation, characterize Emily, and allow them to take a few steps back from putting her in a bunch of meaningless, thoughtless relationships because they felt like they couldn't leave their queer character single for a few episodes. Her storyline and characterization could have benefitted by giving her, and us, time to sit with the trauma and grief of losing both of her first loves the same way in a span of two years. Getting to know some other wlw (specifically) could also help us glean insight into Alison as well.

Speaking of Alison, this season did some very weird stuff with her characterization that somehow goes...nowhere?? They just throw in a bunch of weird stuff she did that seems super disjointed and somehow tells us nothing about her. Why- and how- is she involved in so many relationships? Who is Duncan (to her)? Did he mean anything to her? Why was she taking pictures of Aria while she slept? I want to know more about "Vivian" as a character she made up (*probably with some help from Cece, whom I wish had been introduced by now), I want to know more about her fling with Ian, and they give me "randomly took pictures of Aria, specifically, while she was sleeping." What is this shit? What does it mean? I think they just wanted to throw in something a little creepy and ominous and didn't know what to do with it after to make it a twist (because this story can't just be a story, it has to have a bunch of twists that ultimately add up to nothing) so they decided to attribute it to Alison because she's the one known character no one can ask, right now, and also because she's supposed to be a little mysterious and unpredictable and they figured having her do weird, out of character shit with no hint at her motivation would develop the mystery behind her character. And frankly, I am throwing tomatoes at them.

If any of the characters could have been benefitted by focusing on their family, it's Alison- a character whose backstory we are meant to be interested in by design- because she isn't on screen to develop herself. Strangely, we see very little of them, and almost nothing as it relates to Alison. They develop a little sibling rivalry between Jason and Alison and emphasize it to make him credible as a red herring, but once you figure out that Jason has nothing to do with it, those flashbacks don't amount to much. All siblings have a little rivalry between them. They spend time early in this season on this teenage fashion show Alison was supposed to be really into, they could have done way more with that. I would also like to get a glimpse into Dilaurentis family life, both before and after the disappearance. I'd like to see some sign of the family dynamics that made it possible for Alison to establish a completely different identity in another town and go on flying trips with a teenage pilot. I'd like to see more of Jason getting loaded, or maybe even some drug-related scenes with Alison that could make her a little more complex- like finding and hiding his stash of cocaine and also stealing his alcohol. I also want to see more of what's going on with her parents, I don't even think I've heard her father's name by now. We could get some insight into her character by seeing what's going on with her family, and I desperately want them to show us something "off" with them- especially Jessica, whom we are later supposed to believe is a baby-killing psychopath. Give me something about her that seems insincere, something that seems put-on, something that's cold and callous. Let me hear her talking shit about her dead daughter and drug-addicted son.

Also, let me see Jason and Spencer going head-to-head, because they bring this up like it's common knowledge and it isn't.

I also wish they had done more to develop Alison's relationship with each of the girls. I'm no fan of flashback sequences, especially when there are already so many that you could make a whole season with them- and I don't know if just starting the story that far back in time would work, because we need the context of the disappearance and mystery to be invested in seeing that play out. I guess I wouldn't mind having some flashbacks that occur in the context of one character reminiscing about their friendship- like, making the funeral its own episode or even a two-parter where the characters talk about her, or giving us an episode completely dedicated to the memorial and showing us some scenes there. The stories don't always have to come with dramatic reenactments, though. They could just talk about her with the other members of the group or with other people. Something to give their friendships more depth. So far, I think Emily is the only one whose had flashbacks that show Alison in a genuinely positive light, and that's even debatable because we know Alison was kind of leading Emily on (I'm not sure if that's exactly the right phrase, but I think it works). I want to see more of her complexity realized, and I want to see any social pressures that might have made some of the girls feel obligated to stick it out with a "friend" who was always down to blackmail them for no reason (straight up, usually blackmail is used for leverage or control but this shit gets brought up out of nowhere). I want to see some backing for the phrase "I made you. I made all of you," because that line...I don't know, it definitely has a cheesey daytime drama vibe but part of me thinks it's cool- but it would carry more weight if we got to see it.

Now, last but not least, now that Mona has been unmasked, I want to talk about her diagnosis. First of all, I think giving her a fictitious psychiatric condition is a fantastic idea to avoid further stigmatizing an existing condition (one of the reasons I am thankful that Mona is never explicitly said to be autistic even though she's coded that way- hopefully the people who can pick up on those tendencies in her character won't be as likely to conclude that autistic people are inherently villainous and criminal in real life). However, narratively speaking, it's also a really bold move; your audience doesn't have a real-world context for what you've created, which can damage any empathetic connection we have with the character if not handled adequately. And what did the PLL writers handle adequately? I still go to sleep at night sometimes wondering what the fuck was in that barrel. This is a problem, especially because I don't think Mona is supposed to be the only one of our villains afflicted with it- both Mona and Cece admit to getting "addicted to the game" and Alex apparently came up with the idea to do this very weird and specific thing all on her own. All of their storylines include stalking, both Mona and Alex were replacement stalkers in particular. Alison might have had a variant of it, which would have been cool to explore.

If you're going to create a disorder, you have to create the disorder. Is it genetic? Inherited? Trauma-based? Maybe it's a little-known condition that hasn't gained much traction in the world of psychiatry and hasn't been studied enough to determine the cause. What are the symptoms? What is the onset? I think we could have really benefitted by having an episode focusing on Dr. Sullivan putting the pieces together Criminal Minds-style over the diagnosis, or splicing in some scenes like that in her reveal episode. We could also benefit from spending time in the perspective of these characters- not just seeing what they're doing for a few seconds at the end of an episode, but seeing how this all looks to them.

This mental health diagnosis only seems to exist as-needed for the plot and, to be honest, I don't know what the point of it was. "A state of hyper-reality" isn't even really needed to explain how Mona knew everything that was happening; a lot of what she knew, she learned through Ali's diary, and what she couldn't have learned from there she could probably have learned from her informants- especially since they all have very personal, supposedly secret conversations out loud in very public spaces all the time. She has her own motive. And I really can't imagine setting up something like a fictitious psychiatric condition, you could have a lot of creative freedom with that, and just doing fuck all with it.

It occurs to me now that a lot of what I said may have been repeated, but I'm not too pressed about it. If anything, at least I'm consistent.

#alison dilaurentis #aria montgomery #emily fields #hannah marin #pll spoilers #spencer hastings #anti ezria #ezria #pll rewatch #jason dilaurentis

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inej-ruination-ghafa · 6 months

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midnights

lavender haze;

[tommy miller] the one where you still love him even when you shouldn't, even when you know you should give up

maroon;

[logan huntzberger] the one where you finally say yes or, the four times you said no and the one time you said yes

anti-hero;

[cassian andor] the one where after years of knowing each other, cassian has to make a choice between his loves

snow on the beach;

[caspian x] the one where you realise that there will b a change in your whole life and you have to leave to behind

you're on your own kid;

[jess mariano] the one where you follow him to california and realise that you've both always had to rely on yourselves

midnight rain;

[spencer reid] the one where you're the only one to bring him back to himself after a death, the self doubt creeps in

question...?

[scott summers] the one where you finally realise that he never loved you, even after what happened before summer

vigilante shit;

[javier peña] the one where you sit there in colombia and realise that you are in trouble with the cartel and the DEA

bejewelled;

[draco malfoy] the one where after your break up, you go to Slughorns party only to be confronted by his baggage

labrynth;

[ej caswell] the one where you realise that what you thought was going on between you and ej was not real

karma;

[steve harrington] the one where your boyfriend breaks up with you, you get revenge, sleeping with his best friend

sweet nothing;

[anakin skywalker] the one where you both realise that the end is coming, so you hold each other just a little tighter

mastermind;

[jason dilaurentis] the one where your best friends brother comes back to town and you know you can't let him go

the great war;

[gally]: the one where you realise how much you have to go through and sacrifice just to make it to the safe haven

bigger than the whole sky;

[gale hawthorne] the one where you fail to save all of district twelve but find something else amongst the ruin

paris;

[emily prentiss] the one where you have to sit there and live your life without your girlfriend after Ian Doyles attack

high infidelity;

[dean forester] the one where you do something stupid with a married man but he chooses you despite it all

glitch;

[peter hayes] the one where the boy who used to be your mortal enemy turns into the only person you can trust

would've could've should've;

[luke castellan] the one where you have to sit in the aftermath of the way that he treated you all those years.

dear reader;

[peeta mellark] the one where after you've both lost everything, you find someone just as broken as you

hits different;

[derek morgan] the one where you sit with the girls and realise that for the first time in your life, you're truly in love

you're losing me;

[dean forester] the one where you realise that your husband was starting to fall out of love with you

#mj 1000 followers midnights celebration #midnights celebration

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multxanna · 2 years

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EVERY one of aria montgomery’s love interests outsold ezra fitz

#i speak real #i dare y’all to argue with me #pretty little liars #aria montgomery #pll #ezra fitz #ezria #anti ezria #noel kahn #jason dilaurentis #wesley fitz #jake pll #jakria #liam greene #clark wilkins

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karimamk · 2 years

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I’m rewatching pretty little liars and honestly when I first watched this show I shipped aria and Ezra together so bad I’m not even sure why Ezra wasnt even all that great tbh and it was illegal af for the first few seasons, and LMAO Jason and Aria would’ve been soooo good together like they could’ve been the best couple on the show plus Jason and Spencer being siblings could’ve made aria and Jason even better

#pretty little liars #pll #aria montgomery #jason dilaurentis #aria x jason #ezra fitz #aria x ezra #ezria #anti ezria #rewatching tv shows #pll rewatch #karimamk #personal opinion

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valsjuls · 5 years

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ok but my favorite part is that clexa really set the bar low as hell to the point where we just thanking our f/f couples for at least being alive when something shitty happens lmao and that’s the tea

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hiimleahandimawesome · 6 years

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I started PLL and I don’t understand please explain why Ezra and Aria’s relationship is a thing please and thank

#pretty little liars #pll #ezra fitz #aria montgomery #ezria #anti ezria #anti ezra fitz #spencer hastings #hanna marin #emily fields #toby cavanguh #caleb rivers #jason dilaurentis #alison dilaurentis #tv #tv show #a

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soul-music-is-life · 7 years

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Thoughts While Watching PLL “Unbridled”

1) It’s one of those “flashforward” things with Spencer in a wedding gown. I like these episodes. They keep me on my feet.

2) Spencer tripping over that wedding dress is totally a me move.

3) Hanna: “The cops are going to question all of us!” Emily: *gives no fucks about herself, only cares about what could happen to Ali*

4) Hanna doesn’t share her cookies!

5) Throwback to when Aria almost got stabbed in the eye in the DiLaurentis house!

6) Emily protecting her lover’s mommy.

7) Jason just literally ghosted Spencer and Emily in the flesh.

8) I would rather have Ella in person, but having her on the phone is just as…OMG SHE IS THERE FOR REALS!!!

9) Dean is basically a paid stalker.

10) Ohhh, Paige, you on Emily’s shit list. *grabs popcorn and watches in delight*

11) Holbrook: “Surprise, motherfucker! Your daughter is alive.” But Jessica is straight up not buying it, cuz she’s the one who buried her kid.

12) Jason’s new haircut is working for him.

13) So now Spencer was bullying Ali? What the fuck even is this show anymore?

14) Aria: “Talk to Zack!” Aria 2 seconds later: “You’re never here for us! You like Zack more than me!” Me: “But you just…huh?”

15) Veronica: “It’s like there were two of you living in this house! You and your evil twin!” Me: *snorts, hysterical laughter*

16) I like how much that they have humanized Ali these past few seasons.

17) Me: *bounces around singing “Chapel of Love” as the girls are getting gowned up*

18) “You had me at ‘could you?’” Travis is a sneaky little devil, but he’s so fucking smooth. Look at him being a distraction so the girls can sneak around the DiLaurentis house. He’s such a gem.

19) “It’s like a broken bone that’s healed. And it still throbs every time it rains.” Standing ovation to Holly Marie Combs for delivering, as always, peak emotional impact.

20) Me every time I see the writing on Ali’s bedspread: *pauses to try and read what it all says*

21) Spencer, why are you always going off in the dark woods?

22) Yep, Emily would be the one to get the phone call from Ali.

23) Paige be like, “I love you. Please forgive me” and Emily straight up with the, “I forgive you, but I’ll never trust you again.” That’s basically mom-speak for, “Fuck you.”

24) Awww, Aria is still nursing her broken heart and yet she still cares about Emily’s broken heart. BROTP.

#Pretty Little Liars #PLL spoilers #Unbridled #Spencer Hastings #Emily Fields #Hanna Marin #Aria Montgomery #Jason DiLaurentis #Ella Montgomery #Holly Marie Combs #Anti Paily #Veronica Hastings #Alison DiLaurentis #Travis Hobbs #Paily breakup

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fel-i-fod · 7 years

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Honestly thinking of rewriting PLL seasons 6/7 where

1. A is intimidating and not cringy 2. Has legit motivation 3. A is not CeCe but she is still there and is treated respectfully and is played by an actual trans woman 4. No characters disappear for no reason 5. There are actual answers 6. Bi!Mona and Pan!Hanna 7. Emison rising and being a power couple 8. POC and LGBT characters are not just murdered for *shock value* 9. More actual answers 10. The parents exist 11. Hanna and Caleb not being to reduced to the mess of characters they are now 12. No Spoby and Haleb post-time jump as they understand their high-school relationships wouldn’t last 13. Sara Harvey not being played by Dre Davis and not a wasted character 14. No wasted characters 15. Even more answers 16. WREN AND NOEL BEING PRESENT 17. Jaria developing post-time jump leaving any chance of Ezria in the dust 18. Ezra actually receiving consequences for stalking and having a relationship with a minor (also he and Aria won’t date while he’s a teacher, and don’t have sex at the end of season 2 bcos it was romanticised as heck in the show when it was actually statutory rape) 19. Dark!Aria arc 20. DID I MENTION THE ENDLESS ANSWERS????

I’m sure I can think of more but this is all I can come up with at the moment. It’s actually so tempting to retcon the entirety of the last two seasons. I legit will.

(Feel free to add more to the list.)

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annoyingvoidzombie · 7 years

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Peter magicsperm Hastings, just keep it in your pants for the best of rosewood, we've seen what your capable of and we sure do not need more of it.

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fandom-imagination-ss · 7 years

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The Alison show PLL

I'm going to be honest. I have never liked Ali. From season one! (The actress who plays her is talented those no hate for her) the main reason for hating Ali. My ex bff was exactly like Ali. Controlling, lying , basically she was the real version of Alison. So honestly I cannot like Ali. (When she turned up alive. Worst episode for me) So the fact ppl want the sweet, kind Emily. To be with that monster is beyond me. I'm not a big fan of Paige but I rather see Em with Paige or heck Any other girl in the world!!! On that note. Let's talk about AD. If it's not Alison I'll be chocked. If it's some random person like they did for Cece I'll be annoyed. And I'm hoping it's not Jason !! I hope it's Ali and she goes to jail. Or becomes un-alive. ( saying dead seems so cruel). I can't be the only one who hated Alison?

#anti Alison #anti emison #emily fields #alison delaurentis #alison dilaurentis #spencer hastings #jason dilaurentis #pretty little liars #pretty little rant #PLL #AD #Cece #hanna marin #aria montgomery

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sunnys-rewatch-blog · 2 years

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S3, E2

"Blood is the New Black"

"Senior year is not all about skipping classes and dancing for the security cameras at Walmart"- what??? Why did she say that? It was so oddly specific.

I really love these morbid touches to the show- the finger bone corset and the teeth? Awesome. I kinda wish they could have just gone all the way and made it a horror. They do such a phenomenal job with the sets and the set-up for some of their most unnerving scenes, it seems to be the stuff they're the best at. It might even work as a dark comedy. I'm not sure if I wish the whole show had darker shades to it because I'm way too easily impressed (let's be honest, there are some horror movies out there that set the bar *really* low) or because I'm a jaded pessimist who wants to make everybody miserable. I think it would have worked for the show's advantage.

Why are English teachers the only teachers on this show? And why does it seem like everyone is one? Ezra, Byron, Ella, Meredith, Jackie, not to mention Aria wanted to become one and Alison eventually did. Who in the writer's room had a massive hard-on for their English teacher and never got over it? Or feels like the time and opportunity to do their dream job just got swept away in time? Maybe they can write a poem about how their English teacher or teaching aspirations slipped through in time like sand in an hourglass. They just casually have teachers transferring from high school to college and vise-versa like stepping down from a college-level profession to make high school wages isn't a huge demotion.

I am really not a fan of how Aria pushes Ezra on Emily in spite of how uncomfortable Emily is with this the entire time. Aria is literally the worst friend in the group. And yes, it does seem like something a teenager would realistically do but the narrative never holds her accountable. She never has to apologize- if anything, everyone eventually gets along at her insistence, so it looks like she was supposed to be right. It's just more of Aria having compassion only for her boyfriend.

I had forgotten a lot of small details about this flashback scene where Aria and Alison trash Byron's office. It just makes me hate him more. He really was only sorry after he got caught. Also, a little gross that Ali tried sniffing that throw pillow to identity Meredith's sweat. What is she, a bloodhound?

Why do they focus so much on what Jenna does with the inedible parts of fruits and nuts?

It is so weird to me how little empathy (or sympathy) these auxiliary characters have for the mains. Personally, I don't find it hard to understand why Spencer wants to talk to Garrett or why Hanna would want to visit Mona- I find it harder to understand why Hanna's friends have to push her into it, and why everyone is so shocked she would go.

I don't think finding eye drops is a very good indicator that a formerly blind person can see...she lost her vision due to a fire, and that could damage all kinds of things, including the ducts that moisturize your eyeballs...and the skin and hair around your face. I know Jenna is supposed to be able to see right now, this was just a flimsy trail.

I really don't feel like Aria owes Meredith an apology, and I can't put my finger on why. I don't think she necessarily did the right thing, but I also don't know what else to expect from a teenager under these circumstances. She felt like she had to keep the secret or her family would fall apart and, as a kid, what power did she really have? It's understandable that she wanted to make sure the affair was over. The only person who may have owed Meredith an apology was Byron, himself; he regretted the things he said to her and whatever he said to her was his responsibility. Meredith owes Aria an apology for continuing to see her father even after she knew he was married with children. I don't know why she's such a thirsty bitch for this crusty old man.

Why did Mona fake this catatonic state? Like what was going on with that?

#alison dilaurentis #aria montgomery #emily fields #hannah marin #pll spoilers #spencer hastings #anti ezria #ezria #pll rewatch #jason dilaurentis #mona vanderwaal

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mitskialtieri · 7 years

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I used to be such a hardcore Ezria fan but now I 100% hate Ezra and want Aria to do better for herself. ((yeah, I know, it's always been hella problematic since it started))

#like I get his ex is alive and that's exciting but he legit doesn't have to treat aria like this??#aria you can do better girl!!#get you a jason DiLaurentis #aria Montgomery #team jaria #Ezra fitz #anti ezria #anti ezra fitz #he's such a dick #ian Harding #Lucy hale #drew van acker #pll #pretty little liars #my thoughts

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just-pll-obsessed · 7 years

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16 Questions...

Original post by @teamwhothefuckisa who was very kind and allowed me to sort the questions and post it on my own blog.

1) WHAT DID GARRETT MEAN WHEN HE SAID MEDICAL RECORDS DONT LIE? – – – So much time has passed since Garrett and his death in [3x13]. But this specific Garrett-line was from 3x02. You can read a lot of things in it, but the obvious: – – Garrett knows that Jenna was able to see after her 1st operation which happened while Toby was in Juvi. So Jenna was able to see as he lied killing Alison with a hockey stick.

2) WHY DID MONA ACT SHOCKED ABOUT CHARLES WHEN SHE HAD HISNAME WRITTEN DOWN IN THREE ANAGRAMS? – I think noboby has ever answered this question the way I think it was meant to be: Spencer, Emily and Aria entered Mona's house to find clues. They found the 3-lines-anagram in Mona's hand mirror. After they 3 left, there are two key scenes: an ice-pickle was used to broke into Mona's house and Andrew was shown watching the Liars leave the house. For the 5B-storyline until early 6A-season he was pictured as one of the ultimate villains. But I still think he was going to help the Liars. Sadly, the actor who played Andrew was caught with a weapon (pointing against their neighbors) not only once. And so he left the cast.

3) WHO DESTROYED CONNORS CAR? answered by @xjennax13: Mike destroyed Connor’s car

4) HOW DID EDDIE LAMB KNOW EZRA? – Ezra asked Eddie a lot of things about the Radley Sanitarium while hewas trying to write his book. [revealed in 5x07]

5) WHY WAS SARA HARVEY WORKING FOR CECE? – / – I don't think that this Q is ever been answered. Sara maybe suffered from the Stockholm Syndrom, but that doesn't explain why she was kidnapped and held captive for 2 years and 8 months. Another explanations could be that she, Sara, was craving for that because her mother was a drunk.

6) WHY WERE ALI AND BETHANY EXCHANGING LETTERS? Ali and Bethany weren't exchanging letters. The letter was placed right there in Ali's room in 5x12 by Cece.

7) WHO IS VARJAK? answered by @xjennax13: Sara Harvey was using the alias Varjak while she was working for CeCe.

8) WHO DRUGGED MY BBY EMILY? answered by @xjennax13: Lucas drugged Emily. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have 3-4 scenes on my mind Emily got drugged or something like that. Emily stole the flask from Hanna and drank almost all of it. [1x14] Anti-pain creme with hormones [2x08] = Mona 'That Night' = 3x01 | Emily drank too much = Emily herself Paige took the flask from Emily to get in better mood but ended in up hospital =Milizopam (3x05) | Emily never drank from that flask on Jenna's party. ...I will never buy it that Lucas drugged Emily on purpose without having a motive. Because the next mini-arc introduced Cece, Holden, Jenna and the Kahn Bros. -------------------------------------------------------------------------

9) WHO WAS THE SHADOW IN THE DILAURENTIS HOUSE? i tried, but I don’t really have an answer. There were SHADOWS in the House of DiLaurentis!!!

10) WHY DID MY WIFE ALI HAVE THOSE CREEPY PHOTOS OF ARIA? answered by @xjennax13: I thought Jason had those creepy photos of Aria? He’s always had a crush on her.

10) WHO WAS JASON GIVING 50K TO answered by @xjennax13 again: Jason gave the 50k to Lucas, no? Right! That's a really complex one Q. Jason got a phone call in 3x04 (from Lucas) to meet him at a parking lot. Next or some episodes later Lucas was able to give the money back to Caleb.

11) WHO WAS SPENCER TEXTING ASKING IF HANNA WAS ALIVE? – The scene from 7x01. – – Spencer was texting A.D. – – – The same style Hanna was texting A.D. the first time: "Do I know you?" in 6x14.

12) WHY WAS JESSICA MAKING FILES ON EACH OF THE GIRLS? Liars.found.storm.cellar.in.PLLx7x07.STOP The storyline got a lot of do overs like buildings and people.STOP This small room with 4 of 5 (6) Liars inside was used to hype the facts about Mary. I also don't believe that Jessica was ever looking for Alison bc she, Alison, said something along the line: "When I was looking for you guys." – This.made.the.whole.storm.cellar.discovery.ridiculious.STOP

13) WHO WAS THE 4TH PERSON AT THAT SKETCHY MEETING AT THE END OF 5X05? – Another Q that'll never be answered.

14) WHAT DID ALI HAVE ON NOEL? – Alison used Noel as a guard and a driver for the Liars on their from Philadelphia to New York. – – Alison knows that it was Noel who pushed the sorority girl down the stairs.

15) WHY WAS ANDREW LISTENING IN TO THAT PHONE CALL IN 5X25? – He was still trying to help the Liars.

16) WHAT IS THE RELEVANCE OF ALL THE PIGS? – The same relevance all the owls, triangles and Pigtunia have. NOTHING!

You all participated, thank you!

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ao3feed-pll · 7 years

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but no one's winning

read it on the AO3 at http://ift.tt/2gTNcgn

by palaces_outofparagraphs

Aria and Toby's missing conversation from "Irreparable."

Words: 828, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Series: Part 4 of after laughter

Fandoms: Pretty Little Liars

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: Gen

Characters: Toby Cavanaugh, Aria Montgomery, Jason DiLaurentis, Spencer Hastings

Relationships: Spoby - Relationship, Toby Cavanaugh & Aria Montgomery, implied jaria

Additional Tags: Outtake, Missing Scene, toby and aria tag team taking care of spence, family tree nonsense, toby and jason are bffs, implied anti ezria, this is largely pointless, there is no plot just a nice phone conversation

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sunnys-rewatch-blog · 2 years

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S2 Wrap-Up

Well, we're here again! I have more to say that fits into a wrap-up post, so here we are. I will probably break this up into a couple of different posts the same way I did the last one.

CW: Book spoilers, show spoilers for all seasons, talk of unaliving, the Montgomeries

The plotline I most want to talk about to open this up is Maya's. I don't know what it is with this show wanting to regurgitate old storylines and presenting them to us with less care than the original. I like Maya as a character, as well as Mayaly- and the way they removed her from the main plot is so similar to the original storyline it's distracting. When I watched the first time, I remember trying to connect them- because what are the odds that to teenage girls around the same age, who both lived in the same house and caught feelings for the same girl, would go missing and die in a span of two years under unrelated circumstances? Why even show us this if they weren't connected? They emphasize so much how Maya kept finding Alison's stuff- could she have found something she shouldn't? But no, it's just a bizarre, unbelievable coincidence. I can't understand for the life of me why they did it this way. Even if I accepted that Maya needed to be killed off- which I don't- there are other ways to accomplish that. A freak bus accident. She could have unalived herself in the panic over having to go to True North again. Running away to California would have been a fine exit. They didn't have to kill her. She could have broken up with Emily because she figured out Emily was still in love with Alison and never got over her or because she couldn't get over Pam sending her off like that. I would have loved to see Alison and Maya interact.

Noteworthy about the books- Maya broke up with Emily because Emily cheated on her. I understand that the TV show writers were going for a less morally complicated version of Emily, I'm just mentioning it because following the cannon would not have required them to kill her off. If they were going to kill her off, that should have been integrated into the main plot somehow.

Incoming rant about the Montgomery Family:

Season 2, we get way too much of the Montgomery Family Drama. In fact, the writers fell so in love with their storyline they decided to re-use it for Hanna. As a writer, myself, I'm not trying to be an "every letter written needs to propel the story forward" person; character development scenes that are a little slower, without much action going on, can be vital in getting the audience invested in the character and invested in the story's conflicts. The problem is, the characters who get the development in these scenes aren't the characters who are involved in the central story- they're the characters we have a vested interest in keeping separate from the central storyline; we want to keep them clueless to the protagonists' shenanigans. Even knowing that Byron eventually becomes a red herring doesn't give any weight to his presence. They don't need to obsess over Aria's family this much to lay the groundwork for other conflicts. I don't even know why they did it, maybe they thought they could characterize Aria through the people around her, but there are way too many scenes where Aria isn't even on screen with them to be characterized by her reactions and interactions.

Another issue is that not a single member of the Montgomery family is likeable. Byron is a miserable, low-life, cheating piece of shit man who abused his authority over a university student and then asked his teenage daughter to cover it up and paid off her friend to keep it a secret. His lack of insight runs so deep that he can't even draw the parallels between himself and Ezra, and it never seems like he feels any genuine remorse over what he did, he was sorry that he got caught and that there were consequences for his actions. It's obvious that he expects to be the center of attention, he never compromises and he feels entitled to what ever he wants at all times. All of his scenes are deeply unpleasant.

Ella, I almost like. She's the one with the least drama, usually the first to try to be reasonable and tries to mediate between her husband and her kids. Her major flaw is that she completely loses her perspective when it comes to Byron. I don't see nearly enough effort to hold him accountable for what he did to the kids and while she has the most insight into how said kids are feeling, it's not nearly enough. Her husband is so toxic and so deeply unlikeable that her efforts to defend him- especially to Aria- push her into "intolerable" territory. I don't understand how she can be so outraged with Ezra and so forgiving with Byron when they both essentially did the same thing.

And, lastly, Mike. I have absolutely no idea what we're supposed to get out of his storyline, they give us a few storylines that are supposed to be "concluded" (I guess) with him getting therapy and medication, but it didn't really add anything. It was a clumsy plotline I'm frankly not invested in. He isn't an important enough character to warrant this much screen time; when he is there, he's treated as little more than an object for other people to squabble over. His whole personality is basically "do a bad so everyone else can be upset." What the hell did him being depressed have to do with breaking and entering? They never tie this up.

I have been wracking my brain to come up with something that would make The Montgomery Family Drama tolerable to have on screen. We see the other characters' families, sure, but not enough of them to make their own spin-off. We see the others' family members when they have something to contribute- they're a suspect, they're adding another layer to the mystery, they're causing tension for the protagonists. We see the Montgomeries when the writers need to kill time and don't know what else to do. What if we spent this much time on characters who were just plot-adjacent? What if they dedicated an end-credits saga of Paige coming out? It would make about as much sense and I don't think anyone would be bothered to watch it. Did Holly Marie Combs and Chad Lowe have iron-clad contracts that they need a mini soap-opera worth of time to be on screen? Anyways, this ranting is getting kind of unproductive, so moving on-

If you're going to spend this much time on characters who are adjacent to the plot, it needs to be purposeful. I think that idea I had for an Ezrella match could have made for an interesting watch, it would at least have added some level of intrigue and thrown a much-needed wrench into the status quo. Watching Byron be a terrible husband and father gets really old, really fast. Ella choosing to repair her relationship with him when it is blatantly toxic and abusive makes her confusing and unsympathetic; it makes me wonder how much she really cares for Aria. How do you go back to a person who used your daughter like that? Is "deal-breaker" not in your vocabulary? If someone treated my cat half as bad as Byron treats their kids, I would kick them out.

This sentiment might give me away as a nostalgic 90's kid but I was a huge fan of Charmed and I was so excited to see Holly Marie Combs in something else, it is so depressing that I just can't like her character in this- at least as she's written in these early seasons.

If they couldn't make The Montgomery Family Drama relevant to the plot, they could have at least told us a story- maybe give us something about men's mental health. They brought up Ella's ignorance about psychotropics, they could have debunked it. Byron has obvious anger and control issues, I mean Ella really should have at least insisted on couples counseling before trying to make it work with him again. The only character who really becomes a better person through this arc is Mike, and all of that happens off-screen. They hardly bother to put him on-screen when he's doing anything but providing ammo for an argument. I watch Byron steamroll right over Ella time and time again, watch her try to mediate between her husband and her kids, and I wonder- what is the point?? Because they never reach the conclusion that this upbringing was horrible and traumatic, and made Aria a prime target for grooming and other forms of relational trauma. They don't even reach the conclusion that this is a shit marriage. There's nothing cohesive enough to call it "the point.".

Finally, if you want to characterize Aria by showing us her family, she should be on-screen to react and interact with them. I can't speak for anyone else, maybe this worked for you, but I didn't feel more connected to Aria's character by watching her parents fight over her brother in front of the police station. Or over Mike taking medication. Or even the background conversations they have about Ezra. It's like the writers are just so bored with Aria when she isn't in an Ezria scene that whenever she has a scene away from him they just play a game of hot potato to see what other member of her family they'd rather write for.

On the topic of protagonists' families, is there a reason they all have to suck? The only half-way decent parent in this show is Wayne Fields, and the showrunners make damn sure he has no impact on the story. We get several episodes of Pam being a homophobe, Peter and Byron are adult toddlers who spend most of their time being volatile and destructive, Veronica and Ella are soggy egg-noodles of women whose main personality trait is "staying with my awful husband for no obvious reason," Ashley is impulsive and selfish and not very bright, and Tom is a fucking deadbeat loser. The Hastings family is the only one where it seems intentional and actually tells a story, so I don't feel like having them on my screen is a waste of time. And I can't tell if the writers are aware of how terrible all the parents are. Here's a question, for all the showrunners portraying child abuse to an audience of children; if all the parents are is drama and conflict,would it kill you to write a story where cutting off your parent(s) is the right thing to do?

I still have some to say about what I would have liked to see with the Montgomery family, but this post is so long already I don't think anyone will read it. I hope to have it up within the next couple of days.

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