if dorian didn't show up, do you think louis would have shot minnie?
I do. I know some people think either he wouldn't have or he would've missed so that's why the writers had him shoot Dorian instead, but mmmmmm no, I don't personally think so. I like to think that if he had taken the shot, his shaky hands would've caused him to shoot her fatally.
Mostly because I'm already so normal about the fact that of the Ericson crew, Marlon and Louis are the only ones with a body count. Well, that we know of, but shown to us in the game, at least. Plus, we know it's Louis' first kill.
Like yeah, Clementine and AJ become part of the crew and they have bigger body counts, and if we're counting indirect kills caused by actions, then Tenn has a count... and I guess everyone has blood on their hands for blowing up the boat... but I'm talking about killed directly with a weapon like....... I lied, I'm not normal about that at all, Louis and Marlon are the ones who have killed someone in Louis' route. I'm also not normal about the fact that Louis kills Dorian and then even as he's clearly in shock, he tries to go with Clementine to get AJ, and then later on when they talk about it, he says it feels like bile but not quite and he's glad he has it in him to do it.... listen, listen, listen... I'm obsessed with that.
Anyway, so if Louis shot Minerva, I think he would've accidentally killed her and can you imagine? He's already enough of a mess after killing the woman who pinned him down and tried to cut his finger off [or succeeded] but he knew Minerva, they were friends before the twins were taken. Even Violet couldn't kill her even though that would've been the smarter thing to do, and we know thanks to meta knowledge that killing her would've saved lives, but Violet couldn't, and I don't think Louis would intentionally either.
Speaking of Violet, if Louis killed Minerva, I hate to think about what that would've done to Vi. I think she might've actually left at that point, like what was planned before it got changed to her being burned. I don't think she would've attacked Louis over it, though, like yeah she attacked Clementine in the cell but Louis? I don't know, but I don't think so just because it's Louis and he'd be a mess about it anyway.
Though if he did kill her, it would be a neat parallel to draw... y'know, because Louis forgave AJ for killing Marlon even though he was pissed and heartbroken, and Violet was annoyed with him the entire time... but could she ever forgive Louis for killing Minerva? Y'know? We already have a similar parallel with AJ shooting Tenn, but still.
If Clementine killed Minerva in that moment, though, then I could see Violet attacking her since in her eyes, Clem proved her right.
So yeah, I get why they added the Dorian kill to his route. It adds another compelling element to Louis as a character, but we also need Minerva alive for episode 4; Louis can't kill her, he can't miss, and he's not going to stay with her because we need Violet to stay on the boat and him to be on shore for all routes.
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Sorry what’s up w the Ethan slater stuff? I know him only from your posts / SpongeBob stuff
HI HELLO please buckle in
yep -- the same guy from the spongebob musical, and my posts abut the spongebob musical.
he blew up completely and now the general public knows him as 'ariana grande's new boyfriend' - their relationship seems to have started off the back of co-starring in the upcoming wicked musical film adaptation.
it's just been like. a monkey's paw curling sort of a way for him to get catapulted to fame, as i had always really enjoyed him as a performer (as spongebob, yes, but also in the other roles i'd seen him in,) and my biggest hope back around 2017 was that he would continue in and be really successful in theatre, get a lot of broadway roles, maybe take on some existing parts i thought he'd really suit, like seymour in little shop or ogie in waitress.......... but instead he booked the role of boq from wicked in a massive hollywood film production instead, where he met ariana grande. THE ariana grande.
and then yeah. at some point, he and grande broke up with their respective partners, (slater leaving both his wife AND newborn son) jumped into a new relationship, and now the whole wider internet knows who he is but certainly not for the right reasons.
there's been speculation regarding whether or not grande and slater had cheated on their previous partners before their relationship began with various sources coming out of the woodwork saying "yes they did" and others saying "no they didn't" -- humans are all perfectly capable of making stuff up, the media especially, so i simply don't know who to trust and i admit it had completely shattered my whole good impression of him - PLUS it gave the wider internet an absolutely awful first impression of him, resulting in, yeah, the (frankly, unflattering, sometimes downright cruel) memes of him popping up on twitter and, as i discovered yesterday, in non-theatre youtubers' videos who would literally never have heard of him if not for the slater-grande romance 🥲
FULL COVERAGE of the situation as it was happening can all be found on the lovely @notasimpleslater's blog under the tag 'ozgate' if you want to delve deeper!
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honestly? considering 13′s general level of touchy feely (as in, touch averse in that she wants her personal space respected at all times even if she doesn’t necessarily appear to hate touching itself. She’s fine touching other people.) and how only the people she is very close to are allowed to casually grab or touch her, then the level of touching her and Yaz are at by the end is actually incredible compared to where we started?
(she does -in emergency situations- sometimes not really pay attention if people grab her, but I mean Casually.)
I mean, sure, she’d stand shoulder to shoulder and huddle with people, and She’ll reach out to people, but instances like in Rosa where she brushes Graham’s hand off her shoulder are larger in number than just that one most notable moment. She shoos away graham and ryan’s hands in ITYA when they’re trying to stop her falling on her ass. She stops Yaz grabbing at her in the tsuranga conundrum when the Pting is approaching (and then immediately huddles yaz against a wall with her own body. That’s fine but the pawing at her is Not). By S12 these moments have stopped for the most part if only because the fam pretty much entirely stopped touching her (i presume they noticed her dislike of it). They still casually interact physically between the three of them, so it Is them reacting specifically to 13.
A couple of times Yaz reaches for 13 only to be pushed away in a moment of emotion. 13 can’t deal with Yaz reaching for her to stop her going to set off the bomb in the timeless children. She’s panicking and inconsolable in Once, Upon Time when Yaz tries to get through to her and comfort her both with words and a gentle hand and rebuffs both these things in her emotion.
But then, literally the Next proper moment they get together (non holo related) 13 runs at Yaz and launches herself into a hug, and when Yaz relaxes and hugs her back. That’s their Moment. When 13 actively reaches for Yaz and when Yaz reaches back. 13 melts to it instead of backing away like a twitchy touch averse cat.
And I guess this is a long winded way of getting here but, while I don’t disagree there wasn’t a lot of physical intimacy between the two of them in the last few episodes, I actually Do disagree with people saying that was anything new and was a response to the ship being (more) textually canon.
Because?? They never really touched before then, either. Not in any way that really actually mattered positively beyond that hug.
Outside the hug, imo the only really Notable physical contact they’ve had was in a negative way with 13 blatantly yanking herself out of Yaz’s grasp (TTC, O,UT). Sure, 13 grabbed her hand in It Takes You Away, but It wasn’t intimate. It was actually portrayed as something that shocked Yaz, imo, which says things by itself.
In lotsd the close but not touching is blatantly being used to stoke the sexual tension. They still do huddle, though, and are physically close.
And then in tpotd we get what I personally consider an embarrassment of riches, tbh? A handhold to save a life with a line that i’m reasonably sure was supposed to juxtapose a line from the master in spyfall pt2 but in a positive way instead of negative like it was with him, an inverse repeat of the glass cage scene in spyfall part one with them reaching to each other through the glass barrier but with awe instead of fear. The Bridal carry across the threshold. They are basically embracing in the scene where 13′s hand starts to glow, Yaz grabs her arm (which is, ngl, the most notable touch to me in the sequence) and 13 does not pull away, she leans in and cups her cheek. They casually touch each other, it’s in no way one sided, 13 doesn’t have to have the power here.
So I guess, No, they didn’t touch a lot by any conventional standard, but by 13′s general standard of physical intimacy and casual touching, I think she pretty much let Yaz be all over her.
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Maybe it's because I hate hating characters. Maybe it's because my brain runs on 100% crack (except for the moments it runs on 1000% angst.) Maybe it's because i want to hit a metaphorical hornets' nest with a baseball bat.
But I just gotta say, I think that "traumatized, grieving teenager who has slept for 4 of the past 72 hours and is keeping himself together with nothing but an unholy amount of caf, the burning desire for revenge, and space duct tape panics and acts on Worst Instinct Possible," is genuinely a more accurate interpretation of lux kissing ahsoka than just "assault."
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