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#it’s because I was in the destiel trenches from a young age
sapphosboy · 2 months
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Do you know what absolutely fucking cheers to the 911 fandom. Absolutely fucking massive win for y’all.
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opheliadying · 4 years
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How to Make the Supernatural Series Finale Better:
Before we get started. I wrote this very quickly so there are probably spelling and grammar error, but I’s totally appreciate it if someone read it. It is a bit long though. Also, please note that I’m not a big shipper of any of the Ships on the show. Everything I highlight here makes the most sense to me as someone who loves all the characters and appreciates all the Ships. I give options for Destiel shippers and people who don’t ship it.
First, Let’s Start With What I Liked About It:
Dean got a dog (aka Miracle). In the past, we’ve seen Sam get attached to dogs, but Dean getting attached to one shows his emotional growth as a character. In the past, the idea of loving anyone other than family baffled Dean. Now Dean sees that he’s full of love (thanks to Cas) and can give it out more freely.
Jared and Jensen’s acting. While I don’t like that Dean died the way he did, the scene itself was beautifully acted and made me bawl my eyes out. I was also emotionally affected by Jared’s growing old montage (you could feel the grief in every scene). No matter what we think of the writing, we must tip our hats off to that acting. I personally believe that Jared’s only said this was one of his favorite episodes because of the emotional scenes between Sam and Dean and to try to make the fans feel better about the show edning.
The throwaway line about Castiel. While I would’ve like to have seen a lot more. It was a comfort to know he was with Jack and not in the Empty.
Heaven. I’m glad that we saw the original Bobby, and that we saw Sam and Dean Reunite in Heaven.
Now, What I Didn’t Like About the Finale:
Dean’s acceptance. Dean acting like he and Sam couldn’t fight for Castiel and not contacting Jack. (Just makes no sense.)
Dean’s death. Dean died way too young and without being able to enjoy his freedom.
Sam’s grief. Sam lived the rest of his knife with heavy grief. He never got over Dean’s death because Dean never got to truly live.
Eileen’s absence. They didn’t even show Sam using ASL for us to know if that was Eileen. What? (I’m just choosing to believe).
Where’s Miracle? The dog should have joined Dean in Heave.
Where’s Cas and Jack? Castiel and Jack should have had screen time.
A lacking reunion. There should have been a bigger heavenly reunion.
Bad aging. They struggled to age Sam, like what’s that about?
How the Episode Could Have Been 1000x Better:
Redirect focus. Instead of a weak monster of the week story, focus the final episode of Sam and Dean growing old and living their lives.
Sam and Dean’s story together before death. They hunt for several more years but then decide to settle down. They become the new Bobby’s and help other hunters out by answering calls and pitching in when needed. They schedule an annual hunting trip every year to relive the “good old days”. They live as neighbors (either beside each other or in the same neighborhood). They are a frequent part of each other’s lives. They make the Bunker a community place for hunters and take turns monitoring it.
Castiel’s story before death (with two options). Option one (the heterosexual option), Sam and Dean pray to Jack about Casitel. Jack comes and tells them Cas is helping him fix the mess Chuck left behind but that he’ll be along when he can. A few years later, Castiel and Jack visit the Winchesters (everyone hugs). Dean tells Castiel he loves him too, but doesn’t know how to love him romantically. Castiel says that’s okay, that it’s enough to just be loved by him at all. Castiel doesn’t fall in love with anyone else, he is only able to truly love Dean, he stays an Angel and is content with his life. Option two (the homosexual option), Sam and Dean pray to Jack about Casitel. Jack comes and tells them Cas is helping him fix the mess Chuck left behind but that he’ll be along when he can. A few months later, Castiel and Jack visit the Winchesters (everyone hugs). Dean tells Castiel that he loves him too, that he fills whole when Castiel’s in his life. He expresses worry about not knowing how to be sexual with a man. It makes him nervous to feel so virginal about it. They connect foreheads, Cas tells him that’s okay, they’ll figure it out and they do (a kiss isn’t necessary but I’m down with it). Castiel becomes human, Sam removes his grace and keep it safe in the Bunker. Dean and Castiel adopt a girl and give her the same name Mary Samantha Winchester.
Dean’s story before death (with two options). Option one (the heterosexual option), Dean opens up a bar where hunters come often (like the Roadhouse). He hangs up photos of all the people they’ve lost along the way. He has a kid with a woman he had a one-night stand with, they don’t love each other but they’re good friends. His child is a daughter, he names her Mary Samantha Winchester. Option two (the bisexual option), like above Dean, tells Castiel he loves him and that he’s nervous, but they figure it out. Dean tells Sam he’s bi and that he loves Cas, he’s nervous about what Sam will say, but Sam smiles and hugs him. He tells him he’s happy for the two of them and that he always felt they had a strong connection. Dean and Castiel have a small wedding, only their beautiful made family is invited. No one judged them, everyone is happy for them. Jack is there, so happy for two for his Dads (Sam’s story below). Castiel becomes human, Sam removes his grace and keep it safe in the Bunker. Dean and Castiel adopt a girl and give her the same name Mary Samantha Winchester.
Sam’s story before death. Sam and Eileen get together, get married, and have the same son (because I’m choosing to believe that was her). Jack is also at their wedding and so happy for them. They name him Robert Dean Winchester and call him Bobby. Sam goes back to school, becomes a professor of mythology and tells his students “made up” stories about two brothers who fought all kinds of monsters. Some of his students secretly think he's a big Supernatural (the books) fan, but all his students like him. They think he’s warm and quirky.
Jack’s story. Jack sees Sam, Dean, and Cas weekly to monthly for several years. There comes a point where the system he creator works well on it’s on and needs little interference, He lives his life helping as many people as he can and spending time with his family. Dean tells him he is a part of their family and apologizes for ever saying otherwise. Sam, Cas, And Dean all at some point call him Son and Jack feels like he belongs. (Maybe he falls in love at some point, with an angel or a witch?) He remains a good God became of the love he learned from the Winchesters and Cas (who is also a Winchester damn it). He restores all the other worlds/dimensions, the people from Apoloaypse world go back they ask that he heal the world but not change their fates, they like who they are now and the families they’ve formed. We see Charlie/Stevie and Bobby happy in this world. Kevin is sent to Heaven. We see how Jack made a deal with the Empty, he put her to sleep and made the Empty quite again before he got Cas (which she agreed to). Jack restores Donatello’s soul.
Chuck’s story. Chuck lives as a human for the rest of his life, many of those years are miserable until he meets someone that makes him feel true love for the first time. He writes a letter to Sam and Dean apologizing for everything and thanking them for turning him human. The author becomes a character in his favorite story, and he’s so happy he has no say over the end.
Amara’s story. Amara wishes to be human, so Jack makes her a human vessel but keeps her powers (which she agrees to). She lives out a beautiful life filled with love and luxury. Chuck write to Amara too. She does eventually forgive Chuck, not because he deserves it, but because that just who she is.
Dean’s death (with two options). Option one (the heterosexual option), Dean does die on a hunting trip in his late 50s to 60s, he gives Sam the same beautiful speech and they share the same emotional intensity (and head touch). He goes to heaven, Bobby and Miracle are there to greet him. They have the same conversation and he goes on a drive. On the drive he runs into Castiel, they have a heart to heart before he goes on to find Sammy. Option two (the bisexual option), the same as before BUT, Sam calls Castiel first. Castiel gets there in time to say goodbye. Jack does come down, but with Dean’s declining health, he tells Jack he’s ready to go. They all respect his decision and say goodbye. He goes to heaven, Bobby and Miracle are there to greet him. They have the same conversation and he goes on a drive. On the drive he runs into Castiel, and say’s “it’s about time” but it didn’t feel that long to Dean. They embrace tearfully.
Castiel’s death (with two options). Option one (the heterosexual option), he doesn’t die. He stays an Angel. Option two (the homosexual option), after Dean dies on a hunting trip he moves in with Sam and Eileen. We see him struggle with grief, he cries beside Baby and sniffs Dean's clothes. He lives another five years and dies of cancer. When he arrives in Heaven, he’s on a highway, and Dean drives up to him in Baby and say’s “it’s about time” but it didn’t feel that long to Dean. They embrace tearfully.
Eileen’s death.  Eileen dies a few months before Sam of old age (aka heart failure). She goes to heaven, Dean and Castiel find her on their drive. They welcome her into the car with smiles.
Sam’s death. We do see a montage of scenes with Sam struggling with grief. He does break down in the Impala, he cries into Cas’ trench coat, and he hugs Eileen's pillow as he cries. His son is there and his niece to support him through it. Sam dies a few months after Eileen. His son Bobby, and niece Mary, come in and Bobby says goodbye like in the show, but before Sam fades away he see’s Jack in the back of the room (his first son) and he knows everything is going to be okay. He goes to heaven, Dean, Castiel, and Eileen meet him on the road. They all have an individual tearful moment together. Sam and Dean have an intense hug, Sam and Cas hug, Eileen and Sam kiss, and he pets Miracle. They get into the car and drive.
Heaven. Heaven is changed as Bobby said, Jack and Casitel did good. (yes, John is there, he’s an ass, but the boys would want him there for some reason). The four of them drive up to the Roadhouse to find Bobby and Jack waiting outside. Jack tells them every one is waiting, Bobby says “family don’t end with blood”, they open the doors for them, and we see everyone they lost along the way in the Roadhouse: John, Mary, Ellen, Jo, Ash, Charlie, Kevin, etc (literally everyone except maybe Crowley and Rowena because IDK how that would work?). Castiel, Eileen, Jack, and Bobby walk inside. Dean takes Sam by the shoulder. Dean says, “we did good” and Sam says “yeah, want to go have some chick flick moments?”. Dean laughs and says, “I love chick flicks.”, and Sam laughs and says “I know you do” and they join their family. We get a scene of them all reunited with “Carry on My Wayward Son” playing in the background. Fade to black.
Anyway, that’d how I think they could have made the finale better while still using the basic structure the created. So yeah, I’m heartbroken. Thanks for reading.
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Okay, I have searched high and wide and do not see that this has yet been done, so I present to you - my analysis of the parallels between Destiel and Cas/Claire in Season 10, Ep .20 - Angel Heart.  TL;DR: Claire/Cas are a metaphor for Destiel and Destiel is forever.
As a reminder - central storyline is Cas finding Claire who lands in the hospital while looking for her mom and looping Dean/Sam to help him try to connect with her (and eventually all of them get roped into searching for and then finding her mom who then almost immediately dies, because Supernatural gonna Supernatural).  Dean still has the Mark of Cain with no cure in sight, and the side conflict is Cas and Sam’s concerns re: the effects because he is “getting worse” (many worried looks are exchanged!).  Also important to recall that in 10.09 during the burger date of my HC dreams, Dean asked Cas to kill him if he ever goes dark side again from the Mark.  SO - THE REAL STORY OF ANGEL HEART FOR ME IS how Cas’s feelings towards Claire present a mirror for his emotions towards Dean, and the inner conflict between allowing Dean to push him away (with Dean’s request that Cas kill him from 10.09 hanging over his head) or continuing to fight to be there for him/save him - as presented in the two separate one-on-one conversations/BM scenes between Cas and Dean - and then later Cas and Sam - in the Impala.
I’ve included them in their entirety from the script below, with emphasis on what I feel is important and my thoughts.
Conversation 1 - Cas/Dean 
DEAN
Hey, Cas, listen, what you're doing for Claire and helping her find her mom...
It's good. It's a good thing.
CASTIEL
But?
DEAN
Well, where does it end? I'm not trying to be a dick, but truth is, you're not her dad.
In fact, you're not anything to her except a-a constant reminder of someone that's gone.
CASTIEL
No, I'm...
Responsible for everything that's happened to her.
DEAN
Look, I'm just saying, she's been surviving on her own for quite a while now, and ... and then partly because she doesn't have anybody to answer to.
You know, there's... There's nobody holding her back.
CASTIEL
We just found her in a hospital. You telling me that she'd be better off on her own?
DEAN
I'm saying she might be stronger on her own. ANALYSIS: Dean and Claire have always been very similar people to me (which is why I think they initially clash so much). This is very reinforced both in 10.09 (ketchup is a vegetable!) and in the part of this episode where Dean ends up “babysitting” Claire (a moment of silence for yet another scene of Dean actually being amazing with kids and how he should have gotten his own kids dammit). I think Dean is speaking about himself in part in this discourse, relating his own journey to Claire’s (and in true Dean fashion, falling into his usual habit of pushing away those who love him because at this point he knows the end is near).  The “you’re not anything to her” is pretty blunt, even for Dean, especially after his taking special care to sit Cas down to spill his feelings re: Claire during the burger date in 10.09.  I also took the “constant reminder of someone that’s gone” as Dean’s motivation for pushing people away; he’s trying to ease their pain (not his because Dean does not care about himself at all whatsoever as we all know) upon what he thinks will inevitably be his death from the Mark.  The comment can also be related to his request that Cas kill him if he goes too far down the wrong path, and Cas’s presence is a constant reminder of that for Dean, of how not only is he going to go crazy and lose him but he also is putting him through the burden of ending his life. (Oh, and Dean is the King of Constant Reminders of Someone That’s Gone because see multiple trench coats in Baby’s trunk). Cas’s feelings of responsibility towards Claire also parallel his feelings about Dean - he resurrected him, and he has always felt responsible for the burdens Dean carried after that fact;  (even if they weren’t directly tied to Cas) he has always felt like he burdens Dean (see the iconic 6.20 - The Man Who Would Be King).  Cas’s protectiveness and urge to connect with Claire for me is a direct mirror of not only his trying to save Dean from the Mark without having to carry out his request to kill him, but also his desire to emotionally connect with him while Dean is clearly in a headspace of shoving everyone out.  These are all pretty gray parallels.  The next conversation though for me is fairly black and white.
Conversation 2 - Cas/Sam
CASTIEL
When this is over, should I... Should I leave Claire alone?
SAM
What? No, man. She's family. Well, I mean, she's not exactly family, but she's close enough. I mean, you two have history. Simple as that.
CASTIEL
So do you think she's better off on her own?
SAM
Cas, she just turned 18.
CASTIEL
You were alone when you left for college at that age, weren't you?
SAM
Yeah, but that's different.
CASTIEL
How, Sam?
SAM 
Here's all I know ... going it alone, that's no way to live. You being there for her, even if she thinks she doesn't want you to be there for her, that's good for both of you.
CASTIEL
Maybe, in the end.
SAM
In the end. ANALYSIS: This is so clearly about Dean and not Claire to me.  There is no way Cas thinks Claire is better on her own in any capacity.  It doesn’t track with anything he said to Dean earlier, and it doesn’t track with any of his actions in the scenes in between these conversations (he got her a damn birthday gift for Jack’s sake if that’s not the opposite of leaving someone alone and not trying to be their family idk what is).  If Dean didn’t change Cas’s mind on this, I have BIG DOUBTS that Sam would have anything to say that would so why would Cas even ask him?  Also, the entire thread with Sam/Cas at this point in the season is focused on their mutual worry about Dean.  Why is Cas randomly talking to Sam about Claire? And - what history does Cas have with Claire?  Yes, they have had some prior interactions but can you really call that history? Dean himself mentions in 10.09 that Cas has only met her once before that episode.  But there is someone else, someone who is “not exactly family” who recently expressed that it’s better off to be alone, who DOES have significant history with Cas, and that someone is also someone Sam has pretty good insight on.  In fact, Cas is basically parroting what Dean said to him in conversation 1 back to Sam in conversation 2, and to me it’s not because he is concerned about Claire because he has already decided he’s going to watch out for her.  The only path left undecided is Dean - and whether he allows him to push him out or continues to be there, because it is good for them both.  The “in the end” clinches it - because what is Claire’s “end”?  She’s young; she’s not going anywhere anytime soon even if she makes a few bad decisions (and Cas is an angel at this point; that protection is pretty mighty).  Dean, however, has an end quickly approaching because of the Mark, and it’s an end Cas cannot control or manipulate.  So, in conclusion, Angel Heart shows that Claire is a mirror for Dean in her mannerisms, life events, personality, and place in Cas’s heart (which is the only explanation that fits for the title of this episode, which is the same as a very disturbing 70s horror movie and that clearly does not track).
Also, let’s not forget that Claire is canonically queer, loses her soulmate/first love to an alternate reality/world until Jack saves her from it and they are reunited.  So, there’s that aka the finale we all deserved. 
**if you read this far, bless you, truly for reading my nonsense ;) Feel free to comment and reblog, or message with me.  I could overanalyze Supernatural forever here if you’ll let me.
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orionsangel86 · 5 years
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Narrative Mirror Characters in Supernatural – An Overview for the Uninitiated.
Mirror characters have always been a classic story telling device. The purpose of a mirror character is to reflect on the main characters journey and emotional state and to provide lessons for the main character to learn. Mirror characters in TV and movies can also be used for foreshadowing purposes and encourage the audience to question the main characters path.
A famous example would be Frodo Baggins and his narrative mirror Gollum in The Lord of the Rings. Gollum is a dark mirror for Frodo in that he represents everything that Frodo could become if he succumbs to the power of the One Ring. Frodo’s present is Gollum’s past as Smeagol, and throughout the books Frodo becomes more and more aware of his fate as he grows closer to Gollum/Smeagol and makes the decision to try to save him as a reflection of his desire to save himself.
Narrative mirrors are everywhere and widely used in all forms of storytelling. To deny them, is to deny basic storytelling tropes. Sometimes the narrative mirrors are extremely, painfully obvious, and other times they are quite subtle and have only a very minor meaning in the greater story.
Supernatural is a series which has used narrative mirror characters quite extensively throughout its long history. It frequently uses mirror characters to provide an additional layer to the emotional journeys of its lead characters to encourage emotional growth. Supernatural also often uses mirror characters to highlight unspoken main character storylines which support subtextual themes as well as foreshadowing potential future plot outcomes.
Supernatural relies so heavily on its narrative character mirrors, that recently in episode 14x04 Mint Condition it gave its viewers a textual lesson on character mirrors straight from its lead characters mouths:
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DEAN (Pointing at Samantha): She’s like your twin.
[SAM pushes his hair back just as SAMANTHA does the same.]
SAM: What? What are you talking about?
DEAN: Soft, delicate features, luxurious hair. She’s like your wonder twin.
SAM: Yeah.
[A man, DIRK, is crouching in front of the comic book stands picking up comics. He has a lollipop in his mouth. SAM points to him.]
SAM: Well, okay, if that’s me then that’s you over there.
DEAN: That guy?
SAM: Yeah.
DEAN: Yeah, we have zero in common
(The scene then proceeds to show just how much Dean has in common with Dirk)
Following this fun scene, the episode continues to show how much Sam and Dean have in common with their mirror characters in many ways, including a moving moment between Dirk and Dean in which Dirk talks about how important his friend Stuart is to him. (Stuart who was first introduced in this episode wearing a tan trench coat similar to the classic coat worn by Castiel – Dean’s best friend).
From this blatantly obvious in-show commentary, we can infer how the Supernatural creators like to present their mirror characters and how we, the audience, can keep a look out for them. The key indicators are as follows:
Similar clothing - Character clothing choices are very important in this show. The brothers are almost always dressed in plaid and what Castiel would probably call “lumberjack chic”. Castiel always wears a tan trenchcoat, formal attire, white shirt, blue tie. His mirrors are pretty much the easiest to spot. Arguably any side character wearing a tan trenchcoat is a mirror for Castiel.
Siblings – Where side characters are siblings, they are mirrors for Sam and Dean.
Parent/Child pairs – Less common, but also often a comment on Sam and Dean’s dynamic, Dean being the parent to Sam.
Immortal characters with a sympathy to humanity – usually a Cas mirror.
Tastes/interests – Like with Dirk, if a side character appears who the main characters bond with over mutual interests, the chances are they are a mirror for the main character in question.
Storylines; depending on overarching season plots – less obvious, but sometimes the most interesting. Characters that appear in standalone episodes that have an emotional tie to the mytharc plot of the season usually serve to give lessons to the main characters. Those characters will stand in for the main characters when dealing with their own emotional turmoil, which will usually be similar in theme to the emotional turmoil that the main characters are going through. Consider Ed and Harry from 9x14’s #Thinman episode - such a blatantly obvious Winchester mirror that it should need no explaining here.
By taking all these various indicators into consideration when watching any episode of Supernatural, it becomes rather easy to spot the character mirrors and depending on the actions and plot purpose of those mirror characters, we can usually conclude their purpose and the connection to the overall mytharc, or in some cases character development plot.
I’m about to pull out some big examples so you can use those as templates to go forth and find the mirrors! But my main point in this post is to argue that meta writers aren’t pulling this stuff out of our asses. Character mirrors are a story telling technique that is used frequently and with clear author intent. Don’t ever let anyone tell you that you are seeing things when you believe that characters are meant to be mirrors. It is far more likely that they ARE intended mirrors than not.
I recently came across these tweets on Twitter:
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Mark Harris is a former Entertainment Weekly executive editor and author of several books on Hollywood and the film industry.
Brian Koppelman is the co-creator and showrunner of the TV show “Billions” and has worked in the TV and Film industries for over two decades.
I would hazard a guess that both of these individuals have a greater authority on the inner workings of TV show production than YOU or I or anyone else in this fandom about to scream those immortal and highly ridiculous words “yOu ArE rEaDiNg InTo ThInGs!”
But by all means, if you are going to disregard my post as nothing more than a “crazy” fan trying to claim author intent where there is none, perhaps you could first take a look below the cut, because these mirror characters in SPN are hardly coincidence, and the general motto to run by is that if some characters are definitely mirrors, then the chances are that wherever you THINK you see a character mirror, and it makes logical sense, the INTENT was for you to see a character mirror all along. 
So therefore, never disregard a fan interpretation of a narrative character mirror when they see one. 
If you do, you are going to look like a huge jackass.
Please keep reading for glaringly obvious Destiel character mirrors along with some nice brother character mirrors for comparison. We ain’t kidding around folks.
First of all, lets consider some examples where Supernatural has used narrative mirror characters specifically to highlight Sam and Dean’s emotional growth.
A recent and very obvious example is from 14x12.
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The brothers interview Eddie, the twin brother of a murdered man in a case they are investigating. Eddie is distraught by his brother’s murder, and he says the following:
“I can’t believe he’s gone. We were close. Best friends. Alan always said he was my big brother, ‘cause he was born first. By, like, four minutes. Losing him is like losing a part of myself. I never knew it could be this bad.”
In this situation, Eddie is a clear Sam mirror character, because his emotional response to his brother Alan’s death is exactly what Sam’s would be if he were to lose Dean. Dean, in this scenario, is the one learning the lesson. He is having to witness through a character mirror the pain that Sam would go through upon Dean’s suicide. This reflects the current mytharc plot in which Dean has chosen a suicide mission of locking himself away with the archangel Michael in order to prevent Michael’s escape.
This is a simple mirror which specifically relates to the theme of the episode. However, other character mirrors have a wider lesson in mind. Another recent episode that used character mirrors for the brothers was 13x12 Various and Sundry Villains.
In this episode, the brothers come up against a pair of villainous witch sisters. The sisters are determined to bring their mother back from the dead and will stop at nothing to succeed. The sisters are dark Winchester mirrors in that they symbolise the lengths the brothers will go to in order to save themselves and their family – putting their own goals above the safety of the world. This episode took place during a season 13 mytharc plot in which the Winchesters own mother Mary was trapped in an apocalyptic universe and the Winchesters were looking for a way to save her (and Jack) regardless of warnings from Death herself that no good would come from jumping universes.
It was also a wider commentary on the Winchesters own toxic co-dependency – a theme that has been running within the subtext of the show since Season 8 which portrays the brothers co-dependent relationship as a negative force in their universe and something that they need to break free of – a theme which has been building quite nicely in these later seasons.
The episode 13x12 ends with the witch sisters horrifically murdering each other whilst under a spell in a scene which symbolically shows just what could happen to the Winchester boys if they don’t free each other from their own toxic relationship.
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This was a prime example of character mirrors have a deeper message in terms of their relation to the main characters and their overall character journeys on the show.
Sam and Dean have had mirror characters established in the show since the early seasons. One obvious example was in 1x18 Something Wicked This Way Comes which prominently features a young boy called Michael who feels responsible for his little brother Asher. Michael is an obvious Dean mirror used to emphasise Dean’s loss of innocence at a young age due to the boy’s early introduction to monsters by their father.
Many of the early season character mirrors were used to provide backstory for Sam and Dean such as this one, or to provide dark foreshadowing (like used with Frodo and Gollum) for Sam particularly with the “Special Children” throughout seasons 1 and 2.
In the later seasons, character mirrors are more likely to be used to either provide Sam and Dean with emotional lessons, or highlight their co-dependency as a negative force.
See, its quite simple so far right? Would you actually deny that these characters were Winchester mirrors? You can possibly argue with my interpretation, but you can’t really argue against the mirrors themselves, that much is obvious.
Now is where it gets interesting. Because whilst you may have no problem seeing mirror characters for Sam and Dean in the show, would you feel the same way if I was to present you with an EVEN LARGER mountain of evidence for mirror characters for Dean and Cas? 
Another frequent use of character mirrors within the show in the later seasons is to highlight a potential romantic partnership between Dean and Castiel. This is a controversial opinion and one many viewers of the show either ignore or adamantly deny. However, arguably you can’t pick and choose your meta in this show. If you agree with one set of thematic mirrors, you must surely admit to the same filming techniques being used elsewhere. If mirrors exist between Sam and Dean, they must also exist between Dean and Cas, and sometimes those mirrors are just as blatantly obvious, if not more so.
One prominent example (and probably the most obvious) comes from episode 9x20. Written by the current showrunner Andrew Dabb, this episode was an attempt at a spin off show with a completely new set of characters. One part of this episode included a love story between monster characters David and Violet.
Please refer to this post: http://bluestar86.tumblr.com/post/178577156431/i-cant-recall-where-but-i-read-somewhere-that-a for further detail about this character mirror. Because it’s so obvious its laughable.
The basic mirror is that David is Dean. He is the son of a powerful monster family in Chicago who is pulled back into the war when his brother Sal is murdered. “David” = Dean, “Sal” = Sam. Get it? That’s one clear mirror. The back story alone is obvious enough.
Violet is the daughter of another powerful monster family, one that is actively antagonising the others and supports the war. She spends most of the episode wearing this:
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Violet is clearly our Castiel mirror. A daughter of a troublesome monster family that wants to start war, but who tries to prevent that because of her love for one of the other families sons? Its Romeo and Juliet but it is also very Dean and Cas.
The turbulent relationship between David and Violet is told using lines previously spoken between Dean and Cas word for word, but in an obviously romantic way (because heterosexual romance is irritatingly obvious even when using lines previously given to “just bros”). Seriously, go read the linked post and just TRY to deny this mirror.
One of the more recent obvious DeanCas mirrors in the show comes from season 14 between Mary Winchester and AU!Bobby. In the episode immediately following 14x04’s lesson in recognising mirror characters in Supernatural Mary and Bobby show up to put our mirror recognition to the test.
Mary has been used as a mirror character for Castiel and vice versa since she was reintroduced to the show in season 12. In terms of the key indicators, she has often been seen wearing a tan trenchcoat, or a general tan coat with white and blue clothing (her clothing is often coded for Castiel) as well as her emotional journey being tied to his in her struggle to find belonging among her family.
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AU!Bobby is a Dean mirror. His story very closely compares to many of Dean’s storylines over the years, including Purgatory and being traumatised by the loss of his son (a canonical fact being that both Sam and Dean acknowledge that Dean raised Sam and was practically his only parental figure).
The romance between him and Mary is still pretty much completely subtextual, and yet people still acknowledge its existence. It has been shown through longing looks and conversations with the brothers where Mary voices her frustrations at her inability to break through the supposed communication barriers between her and Bobby (an interesting storyline which compares extremely closely with season 13’s long running miscommunication theme for Dean and Cas.)
Bobby and Mary’s current story reflects Dean and Cas’s especially in Mary’s frustrations to get Bobby to open up to her about his troubled past. There is an underlying message here which indicates Castiel’s own frustrations at Dean for not being more open and honest with him (again this was shown far more subtly as recently as 14x12 in how Dean keeps things from Cas because they are far too painful for him to address). This mirror is practically undeniable, just like David and Violet. Yet both are romantic. 
The other glaringly obvious het character mirror pairing for Dean and Cas was Cain and Colette in seasons 9 and 10. Just because the story didn’t resolve itself, doesn’t mean the mirror wasn’t intended and specifically catered for Dean and Cas from the start.
Cain and Colette is a HUGE example of a mirror that was practically textually confirmed (and was actually confirmed by Jared Padalecki at a convention).
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In fact, arguably 10x14 called for the audience to notice character mirrors before 14x04 did! Cain constantly reiterated that he was a Dean mirror TEXTUALLY. He told Dean that Sam was his Abel. He very clearly stated how Dean would live his life in reverse - Cain killed Abel first, then he unwillingly killed his wife Colette, before finally giving in and killing his demonic kin - the knights of hell.
He told Dean he would first kill Crowley - his own demonic kin in a sense, then he would kill Castiel - Deans... partner? Before finally killing Sam. How can I make this any clearer? Oh yeah. This:
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In fact just got take a look at the source post for those gifs to see all the other ways Cas is a mirror for Colette and watch me laugh at anyone still trying to deny this: http://casclaire.tumblr.com/post/119456988024/and-everyone-you-know-everyone-you-love-they
Those were the het pairings (among many others) but Dean and Cas have also been mirrored to practically every other queer pairing in the show save one (and that was played purely for jokes for W*ncest fans). 
Now the importance of queer representation is something we frequently discuss in fandom. So before some asshat decides to pipe up and accuse me I’ll just add a nice little disclaimer so said asshat can shut the hell up:
Theorising that queer pairings in Supernatural may also be mirror pairings for Destiel does not diminish the pairing or the representation in its own right. To claim it does so is utter bullshit. The pairing is still awesome and should be celebrated because hey! It’s on the show isn’t it? It’s out in the open as a canon queer pairing! YAY for US! Speculating that it could also be a Destiel mirror pairing only ADDS to the awesomeness. It does NOT diminish it in any way...
Unless you hate Destiel of course in which case... well:
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So now we’ve got that out of the way:
Several of our best queer pairings in SPN over the years can also reflect Destiel and their relationship.
Charlie and Gilda is a prime example:
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Gilda appears in episode 8x11 as a fairy from another realm who has been taken prisoner and forced via magic to do horrible things against her nature by a bad guy. Charlie is able to free her from her “masters” spell.
Sound familiar?
It should do, because this is basically Castiel’s story in season 8. He is brainwashed by Naomi to do bad things against his nature which culminates in Dean managing to break through to him by declaring how much he “needs” him. Isn’t it all so marvelously gay?
How about this awesome gay couple:
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Honestly I could wax poetic about this episode for a thousand years, but I will just stress this: Anyone who tries to suggest that the mirror here is for Sam and Dean is clearly missing the fact that the entire point of this episode was about a BROTHER getting revenge for and mourning the loss of his BROTHER. So the Brother mirror is already well established at the start of the episode. 
But Cesar? Cesar is all Cas. He’s the “foreigner” supporting his partners revenge quest regardless of his own desires. Hell, even their names are similar. Besides, their entire relationship was a lesson for the audience in how to recognise body language. All those shoulder squeezes and longing stares? Destiel was all over Jesse and Cesar. I have no doubt in that.
But if that didn’t swing it for you how about this lovely canon pairing?
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The fandom coined “DreamHunter” pairing between Claire Novak and Kaia Nieves was built completely on famous Destiel moments. Longing looks, pledges of protection, “I’ll go with you”, saving each other, trying to go back for each other, mourning the others death… Dreamhunter was also still completely subtextual until recently when Jody Mills stated “First love strikes quick” a simple sentence, and it was confirmed as canon in the show. 
Here’s a handy post of how dreamhunter was built on a Destiel framework:
http://bluestar86.tumblr.com/post/179549508598/tinkdw-first-love-strikes-quick-to-lose-it
Other than these obvious pairings above, there are literally hundreds of character mirrors used throughout the show’s 300 episode run so far which are put in place by the writers and the crew specifically to indicate some deeper meaning to the overall lead character emotional arcs. This has been common and frequent in the show throughout its long history. The above examples are just the most obvious ones related to either Sam and Dean or Dean and Cas.  Almost every episode of this show includes character mirrors in some way or another. Character mirrors specifically linking to Dean and Cas have been particularly frequent throughout Carver and Dabb era (practically every episode in season 8 had a tragic human x immortal creature love story for example).
So for ANYONE to argue that we are seeing mirrors where they don’t exist? Well, those people are straight up wrong. I don’t care who they are, or whether they have some status within fandom or if they are just some asshole on the internet, unless the denial of character mirrors is coming from the writers or the directors of the episodes, they are wrong.
Which leads me nicely to this:
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My reason for writing this long meta post was because of this. Simple enough right? We got three kids in 14x13. One is a tall nerdy boy who just seems to radiate with the same aura as Colin Morgan’s young Sam Winchester. One is a fiery young lady called Max, who wears a plaid jacket and has a shy crush on her friend - she also gets behind the seat of the Impala at one point as if that wasn’t obvious enough. The other girl Stacy we don’t know much about, other than that she is quiet, pretty, with dark hair and clearly the object of Max’s affections.
When I first watched this episode with @tinkdw​ and this scene came up we both didn’t even have to think about it. It was so clear to us. Nice one SPN, we see what you did there. The framing, the characters personalities, the coded clothing... there wasn’t a doubt between us that this was framed intentionally, and in a scene literally moments before Cas comes home to his family.
It was supposed to be simple, no big deal. Yet another Destiel mirror among the mountain of Destiel mirrors the show has already given us. Its not even anywhere near as impactful as one of the character mirror pairings previously mentioned in this post. Yet it was enough to cause such a huge wank storm on Twitter and have BNF accounts start a parade of abuse and blame towards meta writers for even DARING to consider that Destiel mirrors may exist AT ALL in this show, let alone with author intent!
Colour me effing surprised.
If ANYONE tries to tell ANY Destiel shipper that they don’t have a right to see character mirrors in the show, to believe that there is author intent, to SHAME them for seeing those mirrors in queer pairings specifically. You go right ahead and block those people. Because their opinions are their own no matter how much they may scream like they have some kind of authority. They don’t. 
No one has any authority over the way you interpret the media you enjoy. Even me.
Don’t forget that. 
So my point on this post was basically to say this.
You go right ahead and keep looking for character mirrors in SPN, because they have been intentionally included in the show since its humble beginnings.  Destiel mirrors are a huge part of that. You are NOT wrong for seeing them. 
Max and Stacy in 14x13 were just the latest in a long line of Destiel specific character mirrors in a show renowned for using character mirrors to the point that it has textually given its audience A. Lesson. In. How. To. Spot. Character. Mirrors. 
I am not making this shit up.
At the end of the day, by believing the mirrors are intentional, and what makes this post controversial, is that it means I am telling you that TPTB are intentionally providing us with romantic Destiel subtext.
Well, that is exactly what I am saying. Because they are. There is no doubt about this. You don’t fill your show to the brim with romantic tropes, romantic character mirrors and an underlying romantic narrative C plot for at least 4 seasons without having some intentional desire to potentially make this thing an actual thing. 
You just DON’T. 
The writers know what the hell they are doing. They want to keep Destiel an option for endgame, so they keep it going throughout the show. Whether or not they eventually make it textual to a point that a general audience can’t deny its existence is another story, because that’s the kind of thing that need a green light from the CW suits. 
But the writers, the creators of the show, everyone involved to an extent, they all know what they are doing. Anyone who at this stage would deny author intent regarding Destiel loses all my respect because frankly its insulting to the creators themselves. No one is so idiotic that they would make something look unintentionally romantic for 10 years.
The mirrors are real. Destiel is real. The creators of SPN continue to include it so they can keep it an option for endgame because (and this is the part I don’t know for sure but can at least guess because I don’t consider the entire writing team to be asshole queerbaiters) they want to make it canon as much as we want it to be canon.
Whether they actually CAN or not is the issue at this point. The debate on whether or not we “are reading into things” has been null and void since season 12. It was practically null and void since season 8 TBH.
So keep looking out for the Destiel mirrors (and the Sam and Dean mirrors and any other character mirrors you may pick up on) and you go right ahead and post and speculate and tweet and blog and do whatever the hell you want to do to voice your opinion on the topic because NO ONE has the right to police what you see in the show - especially when it has already been proven to be clearly intentional on the part of the creative team.
Finally I will leave you with this humble message from our “overlord” in case my post hasn’t already swayed you away from negative thinking and believing the deniers:
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DESTIEL REVIEW FOR 8X7: A LITTLE SLICE OF KEVIN
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EXT. FOREST ROAD – DAY
The Animals’ “We Gotta Get Out of This Place” plays.
♪ We got to get out of this place ♪
The IMPALA drives down the road.
♪ If it's the last thing we ever do ♪
♪ We got to get out of this place ♪
DEAN is driving while eating a bag of potato chips.
♪ Girl, there's a better life for me and you ♪
♪ mm, yeah ♪
A man in a trench coat is walking along the road.
♪ My little girl, you're so young and pretty ♪
As DEAN overtakes the man, we see that it is CASTIEL, who has a beard and is wearing pajamas underneath the trench coat.
♪ and one thing I know ♪
DEAN turns around to look at CASTIEL and brakes. He looks in the rear vision mirror as he stops the car, then reverses down the road. He leaves the car running on the road next to a sign for the Twin Pines Resort, gets out and looks around. There is no sign of CASTIEL. __________________________________________________________________________________
REVIEW OF SCENE 1
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I found this scene interesting just because of the lyrics of the song that was playing during it. Songs are hand-picked deliberately during specific scenes in movies to set the scene (an example of this that I can think of off the top of my head would be in 8x17 when Dean demands that Sam tell him the truth and then he puts on the radio and the song "Goodbye Stranger" begins to play, starting with the lyrics "...is the undisputed truth ♪ but I have to have things my own way"). So understand that it is entirely deliberate which songs are chosen for specific scenes.
The lyrics to the song playing when Dean first spots Castiel out of Purgatory are:
♪ We got to get out of this place ♪ ♪ If it's the last thing we ever do ♪ ♪ We got to get out of this place ♪ ♪ Girl, there's a better life for me and you ♪ ♪ mm, yeah ♪
This obviously relates to Purgatory and Dean's feelings about escaping with Castiel "even if it's the last thing they do".
And just as Dean spots Castiel, the song lyrics are:
♪ My little girl, you're so young and pretty ♪
The most interesting part of all of this is the fact that this is not the order in which the song originally plays. They deliberately edited the song so that these lyrics were in place as he saw Castiel. The original song goes like this.
♪ Midnight finds me cryin' ♪ Day time finds me cryin' too ♪ I've got to get out of town ♪ This whole city just brings me down, yeah ♪ Gotta get away ♪ Gotta get away ♪ Gotta get away ♪ I made a promise to you such a long time ago ♪ Now baby, now baby, now baby, now baby ♪ It's time to make it come true yeah, come through yeah ♪ Come true yeah, come through yeah, come true yeah ♪ In this dirty old part of the city ♪ Where the sun refuse to shine ♪ People tell me there ain't no use in me trying, no ♪ Little girl you're so young and you're so pretty ♪ And one thing I know is true ♪ Your going to be dead before your time is due ♪
In the original song, the "little girl you're so young and you're so pretty" comes before the "We gotta get out of this place, If it's the last thing we ever do", not after. This is the verse with those lyrics.
♪ See my daddy in bed dying ♪ ♪ Watched his hair been turning gray ♪ I know he's been working and slaving ♪ Working and slaving, slaving and working ♪ Working, yeah ♪ Work, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ We gotta get out of this place ♪ If it's the last thing we ever do ♪ We gotta get out of this place, there's a better life ♪ Don't you know, don't you know ♪ Man, don't you know, don't you know, don't you know ♪
It seems to me that they deliberately edited the song so that it would fit with Dean's views on Castiel and their time spent in Purgatory and his feelings toward seeing him again for the first time since. Though it is referring to a "pretty young girl", it doesn't have to be taken literally, because songs can hit a specific emotion or feeling in you whether the gender or the age is accurate to the one you're having the feelings for. The general idea behind the lyrics is that Dean wasn't going to leave Castiel in Purgatory, no matter what, and that he perhaps has the same feelings for Castiel that the man singing may have had for that pretty, young girl.
Here is the song in it's entirety for those of you who are interested:
♪ Midnight finds me cryin' ♪ ♪ Day time finds me cryin' too ♪ I've got to get out of town ♪ This whole city just brings me down, yeah ♪ Gotta get away ♪ Gotta get away ♪ Gotta get away ♪ I made a promise to you such a long time ago ♪ Now baby, now baby, now baby, now baby ♪ It's time to make it come true yeah, come through yeah ♪ Come true yeah, come through yeah, come true yeah ♪ In this dirty old part of the city ♪ Where the sun refuse to shine ♪ People tell me there ain't no use in me trying, no ♪ Little girl you're so young and you're so pretty ♪ And one thing I know is true ♪ Your going to be dead before your time is due ♪ See my daddy in bed dying ♪ Watched his hair been turning gray ♪ I know he's been working and slaving ♪ Working and slaving, slaving and working ♪ Working, yeah ♪ Work, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ We gotta get out of this place ♪ If it's the last thing we ever do ♪ We gotta get out of this place, there's a better life ♪ Don't you know, don't you know ♪ Man, don't you know, don't you know, don't you know ♪ Well, well, well ♪ Time brings about a change ♪ Time on the clock, on the wall ♪ Brings about a change, yeah ♪ All of his life he's been slaving ♪ All of the life he's been working ♪ For what? For what? ♪ For what? For what? ♪ Give it up, give it up ♪ Give it up, give it up, yeah ♪ See my daddy in bed dying ♪ Watched his hair been turning gray ♪ I know he's been working and slaving ♪ And slaving and working, and working and slaving ♪ Working, yeah ♪ Work, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ We gotta get out of this place ♪ If it's the last thing we ever do ♪ We gotta get out of this place ♪ There's a better life ♪ Don't you know, don't you know, don't you know ♪ Take me, take me, take me ♪ We gotta get out of this place ♪ If it's the last thing we ever do ♪ We just gotta get out of this place ♪ There's a better life, there's a better world ♪ There's a better way ♪ Don't you know, don't you know, don't you know ♪ We gotta get out of this place ♪ If it's the last thing we ever do ♪ We gotta get out of this place ♪ There's a better world ♪ Don't you know, don't you know, don't you know ♪ I want to get you out of this place ♪ Out of this place ♪ Out of this place ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah
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INT. MOTEL ROOM – NIGHT
SAM is asleep in bed. DEAN is sitting on the other bed reading articles about the missing persons on the laptop. Lightning flashes. DEAN looks up to see CASTIEL standing at the window.
DEAN closes the laptop and walks to the window. No one is there. SAM wakes.
SAM Dean? What's going on? Are you all right? [He throws back the covers and sits on the edge of the bed.]
DEAN I don't know. I just saw something.
SAM Uh, you saw what? [He stands up and walks over to DEAN.]
DEAN Cas.
SAM Cas? Where?
DEAN Right there. And – and – and earlier, on the road. I feel like I'm seeing him.
SAM That's... not possible. I mean, you said it yourself. You made it out and he didn't, right?
DEAN I tried so damn hard to get us the hell out of there. [He turns away from the window and walks a few steps away.]
SAM I know you did.
DEAN [with his back to SAM] You know, I could have pulled him out. I just don't understand why he didn't try harder.
SAM Dean. [He walks over to DEAN, who turns to face him.] You did everything you could.
DEAN Yeah, but why do I feel like crap?
SAM Survivor's guilt?
DEAN Hmm.
SAM If you let it, this is gonna keep messing with you. You got to walk past it.
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REVIEW OF SCENE 2
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Dean was literally seeing Castiel so these aren't visions or hallucinations. It would have made sense even if he was having hallucinations considering the events that took place related to Castiel were in fact traumatic and we were originally lead to believe that Dean perhaps was hallucinating. It is not too far-fetched to imagine that Dean may have began to hallucinate and see Castiel whether that were the actual case or not. Though considering it didn't happen that way, I won't go too deep into that. The important part of this scene is the fact that Dean feels guilty for having not been able to pull Castiel out of Purgatory; he turns to blaming Castiel for it, saying he should have tried harder, though Dean is only pushing the blame onto Castiel because shouldering all of it on his own is too painful for him. He doesn't want to believe that he was the reason that Castiel didn't make it out of there though deep down, he feels he is. You can imagine the amount of pain Dean is in over this, considering how hard he fought to make sure Castiel did make it out, and how he was willing to even risk dying for it. It all just adds to the fact that Dean cares a great deal about Castiel. ______________________________________________________________________________
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SAM Dean?
DEAN Huh?
SAM You all right?
DEAN You do see something... [he sits down at the table opposite SAM] ...severely wrong here, right? Sammy, I remember every second of leaving that place. I mean, I remember the – the heat, the stink, the pain, the fear. I have that whole ugly mess... [he taps his head] ...right here, and he says he has no idea how he got out? I – I'm just not buying it.
SAM So what, you think he's lying?
DEAN I'm saying something else happened. I saw the shape that he was in. I mean, there was no way he was fighting his ass out alone. No way.
SAM All right. So, who... or what got him out?
DEAN Exactly.
CASTIEL walks out of the bathroom. He is now wearing a suit and tie under the trenchcoat, which is clean, and is freshly shaved. DEAN and SAM turn to him and straighten up in their seats.
CASTIEL Better? [He spreads his arms wide, asking for their opinion.]
SAM smiles at CASTIEL and turns to DEAN. DEAN glances at SAM, then turns to CASTIEL, gives a half smile and nods. ______________________________________________________________________________
REVIEW OF SCENE 3
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So Castiel has somehow escaped Purgatory, and while Dean is thrilled about this, he is also very concerned because he realizes it would have been impossible.
I realize a lot of fans took Dean's reaction to seeing Castiel cleaned up to be erotic. There was some obvious adjusting of his crotch area and the change in position did give that impression.
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Although the fact that they'd been talking about Castiel just before he arrived could have been the reason for Dean's sudden discomfort. He looked to be "caught". Though his hand reaching down to his crotch could have perhaps been unrelated to having been caught.
They did very obviously give us a look at Castiel's entire form, from bottom to top, and from the right side of him:
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Dean was sitting on the right side, and often this is to imply that the character (Dean in this case, as the camera is closest to him) is looking at whatever is in frame. You could say that because Castiel wasn't looking directly into the camera that it wasn't from Dean's point of view; and while that is a good point, one must also take into consideration the fact that "looking at the camera" is viewed as awkward and a sort of "breaking of the 4th wall" which was not meant to be the focus of this scene. So they do the next best thing and go nearest to the character meant to be looking at what's in frame. This takes away the awkward and distracting nature of the other character looking directly into the camera.
So you could say that Dean was, in a sense, "checking Castiel out". We do in fact see Dean looking Castiel up in down briefly. Perhaps to approve or disapprove of the cleaning he did of his clothing. Castiel, himself, we see was looking for approval from Dean, with the way he extended his arms and looked at Dean while gently smiling. He did not look at Sam for the approval, only Dean.
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Sam even looks over at Dean as if to say "he's asking you, not me, what do you think?"
I won't deny that there is a sort of erotic feel to the scene whether it was intended or not. Mostly due to the camera angles, Dean literally checking him out, and the fact that Castiel was solely focused on Dean when asking how he looked.
Dean's discomfort and his repositioning could have been related to his feeling "caught", or his repressed attraction. I personally feel there was a bit of both mixed into the scene. I do feel that Destiel by this point was deliberately hinted at do to the popularity of the pairing and the fact that the writers do in fact try (at least partly) to cater to their fans (it's why Castiel wasn't killed off in Season 4, as far as I'm aware - he was popular so they kept him around). The issue for the writers, though, would be catering to ALL fans. Some fans do not like Destiel and during the time, were less open to same-sex attraction (between males at least). So the tricky part for the writers is to cater to the Destiel fans while also catering to the non-Destiel fans, which means they are somewhat forced into being subtle. They will give Destiel fans something to pick up on, though they won't make it entirely obvious; for the sake of keeping the viewers who aren't entirely FOR Destiel. ______________________________________________________________________________
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DEAN pulls CASTIEL, who is kneeling, to his feet.
DEAN We got to move! The portal's closing! [They climb upwards towards the portal. CASTIEL stumbles.] Cas! Damn it! Come on!
DEAN reaches the portal and steps into it. He stretches out a hand to CASTIEL.
DEAN Come on!
CASTIEL grabs DEAN’s hand.
DEAN I got you! Hold on!
CASTIEL Dean!
DEAN Hold on!
CASTIEL loses his grip on DEAN’s hand and slides down.
CASTIEL Dean!
The portal closes, taking DEAN with it.
EXT. ROAD – NIGHT
DEAN Cas, can I talk to you outside?
DEAN and CASTIEL get out of the IMPALA.
CASTIEL What?
DEAN Exactly. What? What the hell happened? Back there. Purgatory. I told you I would get you out. We were there! It was like you just gave up. It's like you didn't believe we could do it. I mean, you kept saying that you didn't think it would work. Did you not trust me?
CASTIEL Dean...
DEAN I did everything I could to get you out – everything! I did not leave you.
CASTIEL So you think this was your fault?
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DEAN That was a bonehead move back there. You could have gotten yourself killed. Why didn't you wait for me?
CASTIEL Well, I didn't get killed. And it worked.
DEAN And if it didn't?
CASTIEL It would have been my problem.
DEAN Well, that's not the way I see it.
CASTIEL Hey, everything isn't your responsibility. Getting me out of Purgatory wasn't your responsibility.
DEAN You didn't get out. So whose fault was it?
CASTIEL It's not about fault. It's about will. Dean, do you really not remember?
DEAN [laughs shortly] I lived it, Cas. Okay, I know what happened.
CASTIEL No. No, you think you know. You remembered it the way you needed to.
DEAN Look, I don't need to feel like hell for failing you, okay? For failing you like I've failed every other godforsaken thing that I care about! I don't need it!
CASTIEL Dean. Just look at it. Really look at it. [He touches DEAN on the forehead.]
FLASHBACK – PURGATORY
DEAN and CASTIEL are running uphill towards the portal. CASTIEL stumbles.
DEAN Cas! Damn it! Come on!
DEAN reaches the portal and steps into it. He stretches out a hand to CASTIEL.
DEAN Come on!
CASTIEL grabs DEAN’s hand.
DEAN I got you! Hold on!
CASTIEL Dean!
DEAN Hold on!
CASTIEL Dean!
CASTIEL breaks DEAN’s grip.
CASTIEL Go!
The portal closes, taking DEAN with it.
EXT. WAREHOUSE/FACTORY – DAY
CASTIEL removes his fingers from DEAN’s forehead.
CASTIEL See, it wasn't that I was weak. I was stronger than you. I pulled away. Nothing you could have done would have saved me, because I didn't want to be saved.
DEAN What the hell are you talking about?
CASTIEL It's where I belonged. I needed to do penance. After the things I did on earth and in heaven, I didn't deserve to be out. And I saw that clearly when I was there. I... I planned to stay all along. I just didn't know how to tell you. You can't save everyone, my friend... though, you try.
SAM joins DEAN and CASTIEL.
SAM Hey. Everything okay?
CASTIEL Yeah. Just, uh... setting a few things straight. ______________________________________________________________________________
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Dean is trying to make it very clear that he did not leave Castiel. His own guilt and the belief that it was his fault is forcing him into acting this way. Castiel sees it very clearly and he finally is able to put Dean at ease by telling him the way things truly happened. It was also clear from the beginning that Castiel had to go with Dean because otherwise Dean wouldn't have left; Castiel went along with it because he was forced to because Dean wouldn't have even tried to leave unless Castiel agreed to come. ______________________________________________________________________________
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INT. OFFICE
The scene abruptly changes to CASTIEL standing in a brightly lit room, looking confused.
WOMAN Hello, Castiel.
A WOMAN wearing a suit sits behind a desk.
CASTIEL Where am I?
WOMAN You don't know? You're home, Castiel.
CASTIEL Heaven? I've never been here before.
WOMAN Not many have. My name is Naomi. We rescued you.
CASTIEL Purgatory.
NAOMI An incursion of angels, which cost us many lives. Consider these chats your repayment.
CASTIEL I don't understand.
NAOMI Tell me about Sam and Dean.
CASTIEL The Prophet is being kept safe. The tablet has split in two and the Winchesters are trying to recover the missing piece. Why am I telling you any of this?
NAOMI It's not your concern. Help the Winchesters, come when they call. You will report in to me regularly, and you will never remember having done so.
CASTIEL No. I won't do that.
NAOMI [smiling] Now, as you were. They won't even notice you were gone.
EXT. WAREHOUSE/FACTORY – DAY
SAM ...track down the other piece. You're with us on this one, right, Cas? Cas, you okay?
CASTIEL I'm – I'm fine. And, yes, I'm with you – if that's all right.
DEAN nods. CASTIEL walks away.
SAM It is, right? You two are good?
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Here we see Castiel is being forced into giving Naomi information related to Dean and Sam. Despite it all, he was unwilling to do what she asked, though is forced none-the-less because she not only erases his memory after her time with him but she also has some form of mind control over him.
Castiel feels he is merely continuing to serve and be there for the Winchesters though it is not truly the case. Without his knowing, he is betraying them.
Sam asking if "you two are good" sounds similar to what one would ask about a couple who's had a fight. The relationship between Dean and Castiel often holds a sort of romantic vibe. The two have intense and overpowering feelings for one another. Dean reacts with such raw emotion where Castiel is concerned. ______________________________________________________________________________
RATING AFTER EPISODE: 5/10
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Prompt #38
Requested by @thatdaughterofabitch , thanks for the request! :)
Ship: Destiel
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BACKGROUND: Dean Winchester was a renowned serial killer, responsible for the deaths of 23 innocent lives just this year. His total death count was at 104, and he’s been on the FBI’s Most Wanted list for two years. 
Castiel is also a serial killer, with a death count of only 47, but the method of murder was something out of a TV show.
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A/N: I’m really sorry if this is completely not what you were looking for.
TRIGGER WARNING: Graphic depictions of violence: murder, mutilation (cutting) PLEASE don’t read if you are uncomfortable.
I’m going to sound like a physco with the descriptive words and overall dialogue of this fic...so DISCLAIMER: IM NOT A MURDERER, JUST A WRITER...WE WRITERS HAVE TO ACCESS THE INNER KILLER SOMETIMES WE’RE WEIRD BUT THIS IS TUMBLR EVERYONE’S WEIRD
DISCLAIMER 2: THIS IS NOT A FLUFFY FIC! It has a lot of violence and overall not good things. Destiel is in it, but there’s a lot of murder.
The language is a probably-translated-wrong version of Enochian. I will put the English translations up here.
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**when spelling, Enochian is spelled backwards. So, ‘dean’ would be ‘nead’**
ELASA BIAB ADAGITA BOLAPE VIRUDEN: You are to be beautified
A A DOOAIN DE ELO: In the name of God
Prux, Med, Don: Ron (Spelled backwards)
Ur, Graph, Gon: L, E, I
Gisg, Fam, Un, Veh: T, S, A C
Ome gahalana ooaoana el manada: We will see one another
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“Serial Killer AU”
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Dean stares at the TV in anger as he saw this infamous Castiel appear on the screen again. The headliner read: INFAMOUS SERIAL KILLER BRUTALLY MURDERS FAMILY OF 4. Dean rolled his eyes as he sharpened his blade, listening to the newscaster as she spoke.
“This just in, the death count increases due to the infamous killer on the loose, named Castiel, who recently murdered and mutilated a woman in Lebanon, Kansas. The pictures and footage are disturbing, viewer discretion is advised.”
The pictures appeared on the screen, and even Dean had to admit, it was art. He paused the screen to look closer at the carvings. They were just like the ones before, on other victims. He had found the language, Enochian, but has yet to be able to translate them.
The screen changed to a video. Finally! Dean thought as he leaned closer.
He’d been hunting this Castiel for weeks, trying to kill him so he could add to his reputation. Yeah, he could kill an ordinary, insignificant human, but why not another serial killer? And no, he wasn’t obsessed...at least that’s what he told himself. 
He had yet to find out what Cas looked like, which made him so hard to find. The guy was a real genius, even though it pained Dean to admit it. His carvings were so clean you’d think he was a doctor. 
The video showed a man in a entirely black outfit. Black trench coat, dress shirt, dress pants, and tie. His dark, tousled hair looked unkempt but not necessarily bad on him. He had piercingly blue eyes, and a malicious smile. Dean was intrigued.
Castiel whipped around his victim, who was tied to a table, stretched for minimal movement. “Elasa biab adagita bolape viruden.”
He took out a weird looking knife, pointed at the end but expands outward, almost like a detailed cone on top of a handle. The victim’s arms and legs were exposed, and Castiel poised his blade on top of the exposed flesh.
“A a dooain de elo.”
Then he started to cut into the flesh, carving out one of the letters shown in the pictures.
The video cut off after that, but Dean had the mental image in his head of this man, so he cut off the TV. He got up and sat at his desk, picking up his notebook dedicated to Castiel. He stared at the pictures of the carvings on a different victim, trying to piece what the letters meant.
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Castiel cleaned his blade as he stepped away from his latest victim. She had died quickly. He set his blade down and picked up a rag to clean the wounds he created, making sure no blood seeped out the dams of skin he severed, that his cuts stayed clean and precise. 
When he was done, he left the body there for the cops to find--for Dean to find.
He first heard about Dean on the news when he murdered a group of skateboarders/graffiti artists. He had poured the spray paint into their mouths, causing them to choke on their own form of art. Not the way Castiel would have done it, but he fascinated Castiel. 
He knew Dean was after him, and the reasons. His death by Dean’s hand would do great things for his reputation. Cas didn’t mind--it saved him the work of going after Dean himself.
He got back to his home and immediately went to his desk and opened his notebook dedicated to Enochian language, looking over the notes he accumulated over the years.
He first found the language while he was researching for a paper for his English class. It was an ancient dialect, thought to be the lost language of the angels. He fell in love with it, studied it until he became fluent in speech and writing. In fact, it inspired him to kill.
Castiel did not have a bad childhood. He was not an abnormal kid. He played sports, excelled in school, and wanted to be a entomologist. He was, however, a little weird, per say. He had been intrigued with the concept of death at a young age, found studying nonfiction murder mystery books and listening to podcasts about famous murders and murderers. H. H Holmes intrigued him the most. He thought it was genius using a house as a place of murder. He loved the concept of sneaking around a building in secret corridors with different rooms for different murders, no one ever suspecting anything. It was genius.
But Enochian and learning it was the final push for him. He was 26 at this time, and found his first victim at a park, simple and easy. Followed him until he got home, and killed him in his house. He lived alone, so it made no sense to drag him out of a perfectly fine place of death. He had written three Enochian Letters: Prux, Med, Don. The victim’s name. So, ever since, that’s what he did. He found ordinary people and did this to them, sketched their names into their bodies. He didn’t find joy in it, per say, but more of a feeling of content.
This was his calling.
Sure, it was ironic and cliché to used God’ s name while he killed, but it wasn’t because he was a believer. It was because of the language. Nothing about what he was doing should be credited to God.
Subconsciously he muttered his name in Enochian.
“Ur, Graph, Gon…”
He traced the picture of Dean he had gotten from the news. “Gisg, Fam, Un, Veh.”
He smiled. “Ome gahalana ooaoana el manada, Winchester.”
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Dean’s childhood was full of abuse and being thrown into a role of responsibility too early. He had three siblings: Adam, Sam, and Jo. His mom died in a fire when he was only six, Jo was four, Adam two and Sam only six months. His father was not the same after the incident, leaving Dean to care for his siblings when he was only six. His father drank and hit him all the time, calling him worthless and the cause of his mother’s death. Dean never said anything, just bottled up the anger and pushed on--he had three kids to look after.
After Sam finally went to college and Dean was on his own, his anger towards his father finally surfaced. He had killed his father by forcing him to chug six bottles of whiskey--not that it was that hard. No one had ever suspected he had anything to do with his father’s death.
Dean was hooked. The adrenaline he felt from taking life from another human was almost like being high. He couldn’t stop. 
So, that’s what he did. He didn’t have a day job, but had enough stolen money to last him the rest of his life. He didn’t kill for the money, or the reputation. He killed because he was addicted to it.
Dean ran his hand over his notes with a sigh. If he wasn't trying to murder Castiel for the rep, why was he after him? He didn’t even know of he had money or not, though its unlikely that he wouldn’t.
Dean knew the answer to that question, but he hated it.
He felt drawn to Cas somehow. Maybe it was the way he killed, carving ancient letters into people’s skin. Maybe it was because his devotion to his art of murder. He didn’t know what, but it was something. He wanted to kill him because Castiel was a distraction, and Dean Winchester couldn’t afford distractions.
He skimmed his notes again, looking back and forth between the scrawls of Enochian and the precise, beautiful carves in the picture. He looked back and forth again, then smiled. “Found it.” He muttered to himself, grin on his face.
He quickly scrawled the English translation onto the picture, then stared at it.
E
D
A
J
He stared at them, not able to make sense of them. What would “edaj” mean?
He looked at his notes again, seeing the small note he had written.
Enochian is spelled right to left.
He looked at it again, and got it.
J
A
D
E.
It was a name, presumably of the victim. If he translated the rest of the victims he would probably see their names too.
Dean spun around to get his laptop. He would research Jade and see if he could find where she lived, and hopefully this could lead to Castiel’s location.
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Dean turned on the news after 4 hours of research. Jade’s location was in Chicago, but her murder took place in Lebanon. The most recent victim’s death was also in Lebanon. He wasn't able to find out more, but he decided he would start there. He would pack a bag and ride to Lebanon, which wasn't too far from where he was now. 
Dean laughed. He had sworn he would never go back there, not after he murdered his father. It wasn't because of his father’s death, but because it was where his life went to hell. 
But to meet Castiel...it’d be worth it.
The newscaster came on the screen.
“There seems to be a message from Castiel, infamous murderer, to another well known serial killer, Dean Winchester here in Lebanon--”
Dean’s mouth dropped open as he paused the screen, processing that information. Castiel knew about him? And left a message? His brain was trying to process it, and he hadn't even seen the message yet. He unpaused the screen.
“--Kansas. It seems to be in the same ancient language seen in his mutilations. Here’s the message:”
Dean scrambled to get his pen and notebook then paused the screen on the message, reading it first.
WINCHESTER, I KNOW YOU’VE BEEN LOOKING FOR ME. LET’S MEET.
GRAPH FAM VAN MED NA  FAM’TAL MED TAL  DON VAN MED GON
A/N: I can’t copy and paste the actual Enochian letters--so sorry about that!
Dean reread the message. The letters telling him where to meet Castiel was in Enochian letters, so Dean got to work translating. It didn't take him as long as he thought, only thirty minutes, but he got the message. He stared at it for a significant amount of time before taking a deep breath, grabbing his bag, then getting in his impala.
The message? 
YOUR MOM’S HOUSE
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Castiel sat in Dean’s old house, his victim tied to a chair at the moment, gagged because he wouldn't stop pleading. He was sure Dean would be here soon, he had to have learned Enochian by now if he was following Castiel all this time. He didn’t know why he cared so much about Dean, but he did. He had researched him, the brief semi-bio written by his sibling, Sam. He assumed that his siblings knew of Dean’s murderous tendencies, but haven't turned him in because of sentiment. Castiel had found out about this house from his biography, learned about his upbringing, and numerous facts that led Castiel to invoking Dean. He wanted to meet the man.
A few hours later, he heard the door open. He took his blade, them stood in the hallway, meeting a pair of bright green eyes staring back at him.
Castiel was taken aback. He’d seen Dean numerous times, but something about seeing him in person hit him like a truck.
“Hello Dean.”
Dean Winchester met his eyes at the same intensity. “Cas.”
Castiel cocked his head at the nickname. “Cas?”
Dean shrugged. “Your name’s too long.”
He walked down the hallway, standing right in front of Castiel. “So,”
“So.”
“Why’d you call me here? How did you know about it? About me?”
“I’ll tell you soon...first I have to deal with someone.”
He turned and went back to the room with the victim in it.
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Dean followed him. Cas stopped in front of the man in the chair, taking out his blade.
“Your victim?” Dean asked.
“Isn’t it obvious?”
Dean rolled his eyes. “Is it okay if I watch?”
Castiel nodded. “I want you to.”
Dean stepped back, getting a good view of Castiel as he did his work.
Cas pressed the tip of the blade onto the skin of the victim as he screamed behind the gag, but not moving.
“Elasa biab adagita bolape viruden.”
Dean recognized the words. It was on the last video shown on the news.
“A a dooain de elo.”
Then Castiel started his work. He looked like he was in a trance, focused only on the skin underneath his blade and fingertips and the language he was etching into them. Nothing else existed. Dean understood that.
It took an hour, but Cas finally finished, stabbed the man cleanly through the chest, then turned to Dean, cleaning his blade.
“You’re a genius.” Dean blurted. “I mean, clearly an artist.”
Castiel smiled. “Thank you Dean.”
He turned examining the cuts he made. “I don’t have much to clean up--we can talk afterward. Here, if you’re comfortable.”
Dean nodded. “I’m fine.”
As Castiel cleaned, Dean took a moment to take in his whole appearance. Every thing about the man screamed dominance. He had a certain aura around him that drew Dean in. It was impossible not to be drawn in. he was like a black hole.
Cas turned. “Follow me.”
Dean nodded. “I know this house, Cas--I lived in it for a chunk of my life.”
Castiel shrugged. “You have a point.”
They arrived in the living room, and sat across from each other. they stared for a while, not saying anything.
“I read about you.” Cas said suddenly.
Dean raised an eyebrow, asking to elaborate.
“Your brother, Samuel, had a small biography about you. I also saw you on the news. Your method of murder...it’s fascinating. Brilliant, though not my personal method.”
Dean scoffed. “There’s no thought behind my methods. You, however, have such precision...I was watching you now. It’s a bit of an honor.”
Cas laughed. God, he had a beautiful laugh...what?
“The language...I fell in love with it. It’s interesting.” 
Dean huffed. “That it is. How’d you learn it? I could barely decipher your message.”
Cas smiled. “It took several years...I’m surprised you learned as much as you did so quickly.”
“Yeah well, I wanted to meet you.”
Dean blushed a little. “So, is my method the reason why you called me out?”
Castiel seemed stopped cold by the question. “I...I just...wanted to meet you.” He said. “I felt, drawn to you, to be completely honest.”
Dean sucked in a breath. He couldn’t believe this. “Well, the feeling is returned, Cas.”
“I like that, Cas. It’s much easier to say than ‘Castiel.’”
The two men looked at each other, unsure what to say. This wasn’t turning out how he imagined.
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Castiel didn’t know what to do. to be honest, he really wanted to kiss the man. There was no use denying it--Dean fascinated him. No one’s captured that Castiel’s interest in all of his life. But Dean...he was truly worthy of attention.
Castiel debated with himself whether he should so something about it or not. He hated how he was acting like a high schooler about this, but he had just met the man.
“Fuck it.” Castiel said.
He leaned in towards Dean, and met his lips. Dean’s eyes widened, but he didn't pull away. He relaxed, and kissed back.
Cas leaned back into his chair, meeting Dean’s widened, shocked eyes.
“I--Cas--”
“That’s the the real reason I reached out to you. I...want to consider a partnership.”
Dean laughed. “Actual partners in crime, in both senses of the phrase?”
Cas laughed. “I guess so.” 
Dean smiled and looked down. “Sure, Cas.”
Castiel stood up, kissing Dean again. “Anyone who says serial killers are emotionless are wrong.”
Dean nodded. “We’re still breaking the law.”
Castiel shrugged. “Do you care?”
Dean picked up Castiel’s blade and handed it to him. “Nope.”
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that’s it! I got stuck on this story a bit lol. I know a little bit about Enochian letters, but I couldn’t transcribe the actual letters in this story, so the language in this is probably completely wrong. Anyway, hope you guys don’t think I’m a serial killer now hahaha. thanks for reading :)
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I read something interesting (I forget where) that argued they modeled "I'll Just Wait Here Then" off of the song "On My Own". Was wondering if you had thoughts on this. I've watched a couple different versions of "On My Own" on youtube and there does appear to be at least superficial similarities (then again I might just be blinded by trench coat).
*erases the 1 on the sign that says “days gone without getting I’ll Just Wait Here Then stuck in my head”*
Is that an official comment or just some meta because I don’t remember anything from around the time commenting on where any of the songs really came from… 
Oh, wait, I had NO IDEA what you were talking about when I wrote all of that, assuming Youtube would explain once I got there, but now I’m here, but you know what, my BFF is so into musicals and loves Lea Salonga so much and so I actually HAVE made this exact comparison, myself, while sitting through this video for my BFF :P (I have a thing about musicals >.> Failed theatre kid over here >.>)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjfmP7h3gBw
I don’t think I ever shared this thought because it was just a silly thing I thought once ages ago (and I dislike musicals a lot), but, I mean, yeah. Look at her.
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Yeah, the song is essentially whatserface from Les Mis who’s in sad unrequited love with… main young guy…? Was it Eddie Redmayne in the movie or do I just assume he’s in everything? And he’s just run off in love with whatserface the other young love interest girl, and she’s got his coat somehow, and it’s raining and she wanders down through the dark empty street sing-crying about how she’s all alone and will love him unrequitedly and knows it. I got the impression from the movie she was really stoic about it the rest of the time and this is her kind of cracking open for the audience and showing us what she’s been feeling if you missed that she was pining from the smaller details. 
I think to compare it to I’ll Just Wait Here Then, it’s probably tapping a similar mood, especially if Cas hasn’t sung all that much so far (if you crush the story down but you’re as far as season 5 he may have had like… 1 song for season 4 although I would hope 4x22 would be a super intense duet with Dean, and now despite my aversion to musicals I actually want to know what Cas’s intro number was like :P) - but anyway in season 5 we’re starting to get to know Cas better and to see more of all his underlying character stuff, since season 5 is really just an emotional arc for Cas, and he only helps along with the plot here and there. So his season 5 song would be one that shows us some underlying motivation and heart. And this IS a love song to Dean.
I think the sad unrequited part though, even though it sounds that way, is something that in 5x04 is answered with Dean’s reaction’s to Cas. I wouldn’t say Cas is rewarded for waiting all night and Dean being appreciative of him because that sounds kind of awful and like Dean’s got, idk, emotional currency tokens or that Cas is hanging on Dean for any he has to spare, but as I said about this song back after 10x05 aired, it’s such a random thing that they found one of the DeanCas moments that’s pretty much all comedic beats and there genuinely isn’t any romance subtext in the first conversation on the phone, but then Robbie turned it around and used that to lead into how Cas would be feeling after Dean hung up on him, and from there we get that incredible little love song about how Cas will always wait for Dean… In the actual episode we know that does get answered that Dean is ALSO genuinely fond of Cas, is given a strong wake up call about that with the events of Endverse, and at the end of the episode looks completely mushy over Cas. 
(The other week when I was having a mental block on everything pre-season 7 I made this post and got a pretty repeated answer of “the way Dean looks at Cas in 5x04″)
We don’t know if the musical answered it or left Cas unrequited until later depending on what story Marie was telling (and it’s easier to leave that hanging as it’s such a theme it was still relevant TO 10x05 so whatever the end of her play involved, it could set Cas up for the long game) but when you piece the song back into its place in 5x04 I think it would make Cas feel less terrible than whatserface from Les Mis because Dean was so happy to see him, and had genuine words of affection for him when Cas had rescued him, not just for the fact he did it, but he’d been through so much and disliked seeing the potential future version of Cas so much that he was sort of… appreciating everything about Cas there, not just his ability to make a well-timed rescue :P
But yeah in the wider context of season 10, writing a song about Cas unrequitedly pining for Dean goes riiight back to being relevant, because Dean’s essentially off the market the whole time he has the Mark, or later Amara bothering him, and Cas has to wait it all out. He’s the one carrying the Destiel arc in season 10, and I think thematically, mixing up these 2 songs to get more subtext out of the relatively cute and harmless I’ll Just Wait Here Then, really suits the flavour more of stuff like Cas’s speech in 10x22 about everyone Dean loves being dead except for him, and all that stuff where it got genuinely that painful and awful for Cas, and Dean seemed to reject him. I mean Cas WAS written as an unrequited love interest that year - the 10x14 deleted scene is the most obvious place for that, but it’s really telling us nothing we didn’t already know from the rest of the story so far that year.
(gosh and to think I thought I’d have nothing to say on this when I saw the ask was about songs and music and I was like, oh no, I don’t know ANYTHING about this sort of stuff :P)
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