#they are both bisexual fight me

[audhd-nightwing]

okay lemme just-

dick grayson:

- eldest brother

- watched parents die, swore revenge on murderer

- raised as a child soldier from a young age (9 y/o)

- complicated relationship with (adoptive) father, lots of unresolved anger but still defends him

- believes he has a better understanding of his father than his younger brother does (has spent more time around him)

- copes with humor, bottles up emotions, feels he has to ‘be strong’ for his family, doesn’t talk about his own issues

- extremely loyal to those deemed ‘family’

- bi coded

- spent his childhood moving around constantly (traveling circus)

- seen as a playboy/flirty, uses it to get information

- had to raise his little brother / was basically a parent to him

- self-sacrificing as FUCK, total martyr complex

- constantly wears a fake persona and rarely shows his true self to others

dean winchester:

- eldest brother

- watched his mom die, swore revenge on the demon that killed her

- raised as a child soldier from a young age (4 y/o)

- complicated relationship with father, they have unresolved issues but he still defends him

- believes he understands his father better than his younger brother does (has spent more time around him)

- copes with humor, bottles up emotions, feels he has to ‘be strong’ for his family, doesn’t like talking about his own issues

- extremely loyal, values family above all else

- bi coded

- moved around his whole childhood

- seen as a playboy/flirty, uses it to get information

- had to raise his little brother, was more of a parent to him than their dad ever was

- self-sacrificing to a worrying degree, definite martyr complex

- constantly wears a fake persona and rarely shows his true self to others

#this is for the ppl who say jason is more like dean #he is not!! #GUYS PLSASE #it’s the eldest daughter syndrome #they are both bisexual fight me #dick grayson #dean winchester #dc comics #supernatural #dc #dcu #spn #bruce wayne #john winchester #character analysis #similarities #character study #tropes #character tropes

[tomatoart]

drawn right b4 the movie came out while eating a ny hotdog

#barbie the movie #ken barbie #barbie #barbie 2023 #barbie fanart #ken #idkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk the tags. also i kind of hate how it looks now #but its ok it was for fun while i was fighting DEMONS. #n those demons were not bisexuality it was just depression #i need to do more cartoomny stuff again i feel like usuing refs has made me a lil awkward but its good practice #i think i just need to get back into a swing is all #both of them r trans btw PICKS U UP W MY MIND !

[turtleblogatlast]

Don’t think I ever quite said what my LGBTQ+ headcanons are for the boys, so these are my current thoughts! Always changing of course but this is what I feel most strongly right now.

#rottmnt #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #rottmnt headcanons #rise donnie #rise leo #rise mikey #rise raph #donnie and leo’s sexualities being practically swapped was unintentional but it works way too well #same with mikey and raph tbh it was a happy accident #anyway I kinda hc raph as the type who doesn’t care about physical appearance just if you fight lol #Mikey’s more than happy with friends and family #Donnie is a BIG romantic but he needs time to sus a person out fully before he gets the hots for them #leo meanwhile isn’t keen on romance unless it’s with someone he grows to really really REALLY trust #I could go on and probably will later (knowing me) but it is late and I am tired haha #turtle art tag #curious as to what everyone else headcanons #the only one of these I’ll defend forever is Bi (female-leaning) donnie and trans leo #all the others can change over time but I really like where they’re sitting right now #I hope these are the right flags too because it was kinda hard to find them #went looking for transmasc flag in particular but I couldn’t find a solid agreed upon version 😭 #ngl a big part of why I hc mikey as aro is because of a pun #my phone often misspells aromantic as aromatic and- and you get it- because aromatic herbs and- and Mikey is a chef do YOU GET IT #note that while I hc leo as bisexual (male-leaning) I still think he’s prob closer to demi in that as well just not as far into the spectrum #if that makes sense #headcanons are fun and hard to narrow down at the same time alas #I made this in like an hour can you tell djjdjd #I drew them all from memory so if there’s anything wrong…shhh #and if you’re wondering for April and Splinter #Both are Bisexual (female-leaning) but April is also Panromantic #I almost wanna make Splinter demiromantic too so Big Mama’s betrayal hits just a bit harder

[leverage-ot3]

love how we all went into redemption either wary of or expecting to hate harry but within two episodes we all collectively went, oh, he’s just some lil weird guy and we adopted him just like the leverage crew did

#the writers definitely knew what they were doing writing him #I think it’s definitely interesting and a feat to good writing because we were technically losing two series regulars and they had the task #of both finding new characters while also making sure they wouldn’t just erase or dismiss the old characters #they had to come up with something completely different and have it appealing enough to satisfy us as we are missing two of our original #beloved characters (nate and hardison) #and they came up with harry lmao #he’s such blorbo shaped #skinny little dude that is a former evil lawyer bad dad forgot he was bisexual until he saw eliot fighting #skrunkly lil gamer guy pathetic man silly little disguises way too enthusiastic just happy to be there #honestly me too bitch #jackie talks #mine #leverage #leverage redemption #meta #harry wilson #harry wilson meta #leverage redemption meta #leverage meta #character appreciation

[vaxxman]

I have so much brainrot about Medic's wife, specifically the design from the comic doodles that Makani drew, I'm so ready to draw a whole comic about her, man I love hallucinating.

#60 seconds till mission begins rambles #But also I have so many things to do I could cry #I don't like engaging in fights about which ships are valid in the eyes of canon etc #I've seen many people try to ignore medic's wife's potential existence because it would invalidate the possibility of him being gay #insisting the doodles were drawn before Makani joined Valve; and Demo's domination line just being gibberish etc etc #That's sad to me because I think she's a REALLY cool character and I cry about her never ever coming to the official material #So listen to me; headcanon; what about #He's bisexual (and discovers he has a preference for men) #boom #we win🏳‍🌈 #also the doodles where his wife appears are the same doodles where he's smooching heavy so why are you only reading half of the scriptures? #I'm just foaming at the mouth about the idea of Medic having a female best friend who he married and who understands him in a different way #I just like the idea of both of them being opportunistic and marrying for the societal benefits a marriage gave you back in the days #and like being the only other person to have enough blackmail material on the other #Ok no I cant talk more about this I'll give away the entire story I have in my head

[blackberryjambaby]

just remembered the absolutely devastating comeback of "lez be honest" that people used in primary school to call each other lesbians

#remy says #if you were fighting with a girl & you called her ugly or something she could say “well lez be honest.. you have your own issues...” #writing it out makes me think maybe it's lesbi-honest but it was definitely said with a hard z sound #the early 2010s were not fun for me #this is made funny by the fact that the only two girls i remember using it all the time are both now out as bisexual #i wonder if this was just an nz thing or if aus did it too #homophobia

[grasslandgirl]

honestly honestly honestly warehouse 13 had a lot of failings in its writing and its pacing and its plotting and its shark jumping esp in the last two seasons and it was very much a product of its time and its genre in a lot of ways that were to the show’s detriment BUT !!!!!!!! i will say there is something really powerful to me that they killed steve in the end of s3 for an emotional tragic plot moment and THEN put in the work to Bring Him Back. and like. have it feed into his relationship w claudia and like. a large part of both of their stories in the first half of s4 is like!! the consequences and repercussions of steve coming back from the dead!! and like. no its not done as well as it could be. no they dont dig into the trauma and the fear as much as they could have for my tastes, but its SOMETHING. and like. that’s not an arc you see for gay characters very often- especially in 2011, you know? like not only was steve a non stereotypical gay character (other than that one bizarre ep he got split into his?? gay half and his boring half?? iirc?? we dont talk about that one) but like. his sexuality has very little bearing on his character, he’s not there to be the sassy bff to any of the other leads- no matter how claudia kind of tries to get him into that role in the beginning- he’s serious and he’s funny and he’s kind and he serves as a brilliant counter balance to pete and myka and claudia and he HAPPENS to be gay. he doesnt uncomfortably flirt with pete (if anything, pete uncomfortably straight guy flirts with steve) and he doesnt do makeovers and like. its just kind of delightful and fascinating to me that we got this carefully built, mulitfaceted gay character that was killed off for sympathy and tearjerking in the end of s3- and in most other shows, that would have been it (like they do with leena in the mid season 4 finale- oops) but they bring him back!!! and after some fighting for his safety and humanity he’s FINE. and he’s allowed to be gay and to be claud’s big brother and to keep working at the warehouse and he isnt fridged or buried like so many other diversity point queer characters in media, especially of that era! it’s just!! kind of delightful!!! like w13 had its flaws i KNOW it had its flaws. but like. there arent a lot of characters like steve jinks in tv shows NOW you know, much less in the late aughts/early 20teens. and he’s just very dear and special to me <3

#honorable mention to hg wells canonically bisexual mentioned in passing and never brought up again #also steve and claud's siblinghood so truly everything to me. oh my god. theyve both lost thier sibling sand theyve found someone they love #so much. its so very platonic/familiar soulmate hood and ogghoguhgh. she goes through hell and fights and claws to get him back. oh my god #wh13 #warehouse 13 #steve jinks #i just. he is so <3 he's my best friend i love him i love him #ideally we'd also get more distinguished gay/bi solidarity w him and mykes but. yk #i cant Always Win i GUESS

[phoenixwwitch]

“steve and eddie are straight” “eddie wasn’t flirting with steve” “steve very clearly is pining only for nancy” okay, what’s this then? 🤨

#they are so goddamn loud about it #i love two bisexual idiots #pls relax boys #yes they are both bi fist fight me in a parking lot about it #eddie munson #steve harrington #steddie #stranger things #steveddie #steve x eddie #eddie x steve #eddie baby you are in love #steve was very loud about his crush

[sydmarch]

oh my god who fucking care about bi lesbian discourse

#this is such a stupid thing to be fighting over like. as a bisexual i personally find it dumb & dont see what it accomplished by diluting #both terms but LITERALLY that does not matter. if someone else finds meaning in it & thats how it makes sense for them to identify good for #them!! this shit truly does not matter even if you think some term or identity sounds dumb or you dont get jt literally how is that any of #your business. tired of online gay discourse i need more gay irls again my friend group has #gotten so straight these past few years #like me & the irl gays werent ever arguing about stupid shit llike this we were going to bars & taking turns kissing each other #texticles #*what it accomplishes besides diluting both terms is what i meant. idk wtf i wrote there instead

[theinfinitedivides]

so i just finished Café Minamdang and uh. Choices were made

#tv: café minamdang #cafe minamdang #café minamdang #seo in guk #seo in gook #oh yeon seo #kwon soo hyun #kdrama #local gay watches k-dramas.txt #oh you definitely had to turn your brain off for this one. it did not take itself seriously at all and ykw that's what made it fun #Han Joon my chaotic pseudo-shaman beloved who may be a bit bisexual. idk i might be projecting with the last part but fight me #i do feel like they could have handled the [redacted] arc better???? #like sure ok you kind of made this obvious since ep 3 or so thanks for that but when you finally got around to informing the rest #of the cast it wasn't executed as smoothly as it could have been imo #i needed a better answer than 'oh they're a psychopath they're not sorry we're going to put them in jail now for their crimes' #i needed to see that mental breakdown from their office spill over and peak somewhere in the closing eps damn it #idk idk #moral of the story is i need In Guk and Soo Hyun in another drama together stat. preferably one where i can ship them #without legal and moral repercussions ty #also Han Joon had both Han siblings in the end but his true love was Jae Jeong and they f*cked. that's canon to me #now i'm off to finally return to my vampire himbo Taecyeon in Heartbeat prepare for the spam

[crowshoots]

ppl are right in saying that leigh shouldn’t have written her only bisexual characters as flirty ones but they’re making claims that jesper is a slut sleeping around with the entirety of ketterdam when that is not at ALL the case in the books and i wish ppl would stop talking about it as if it is

#point to me where its said that jesper sleeps around in the books bc the only thing i can think of is the #‘hair mussed as if he just rolled out of someone’s bed’ aND THAT WAS FROM KAZ after a fight!!! not actually a thing #+ the girl he ran into in ck but that was for a date #like……… where is this image u say is perputated by jesper bc its not there in the books #the show though. Hogh different and added to jespers character for NO reason #tldr: leigh should be criticized for writing both bisexuals in her book (nina and jes) as flirty but the way ppl do it also say that jesper #sleeps around w/o any actual evidence of such a thing and actually make that part up #+ the show adds to a biphobic image of jes while still refusing to show that jesper is bisexual :S

[aw-bean-s]

Gotta say as someone whos been out since they were young, I'm really sick of having to defend the existence of queer people in media and explain how it's 'useful' or 'plot important' when straight ppl i know can like whatever trashy het romance they want no questions. Like does it have to be useful? Can it not just be there? It doesn't 'cheapen' anything its just there and suddenly you have to fight for your life to explain why it should get to exist. And it's always the bloody 'pandering' 'it's a trend' argument and I hate it because is it so terrible if they pander to ME for once instead of you?? Is that so terrible?? But you can't say that because then you're a fool who doesn't understand good storytelling. And then if they're real annoying, they'll pull the 'well i don't like when ANY romance is just pushed in' so then why. Is it always queer stuff you're complaining about?? And then I'm forced to be defending a (honestly poorly written) queer romance because all I said was that it couldve been handled better and somehow to straight ppl that translate to 'yeah they shouldn't have done it at all' and they don't even REALISE their bias and that SOMEHOW the ONLY FUCKING TIME we have this arguement it's about a queer character. Can I not enjoy the fact a superhero I like is bisexual while also admitting I don't like how they flattened their character after it? Can I not say 'yeah it's trashy but theyre cute' to some crap TV show? Does it always have to be perfect? Because yeah. I want good shows. I want complex dynamics. But sometimes it just feels nice when the silly comic book character is bisexual. And these motherfuckers will ALWAYS find some way to argue that it wasn't relevant and therefore they shouldn't have come out at all, which is just another way of saying that queerness should be kept away from the things they like and only be included if 'plot relevant' so then they can avoid it. I'm just so tired, so so fucking tired, of having the same argument over. And over. And over again with the same people about the same things when all I wanted to do was talk about a bisexual character WITHOUT some asshole jumping down my throat. I've been doing this shit since I was 12 and I'm just tired. Christ.

#'forced' my ass #If you can't tell i made the mistake of talking about comics to my dad #He's not like. Homophobic. He's just dumb and has internal biases he does not care to check unless he's drunk #And unfortunately I caught him before he opened the whiskey while he was still on beer :/ my mistake honestly #Also I know that it sounds like I go out of my way to pick fights (according to dad anyway) but I really dont #All I fucking said was 'yeah I like that they're bisexual but i don't like that they flattened their character afterwards' #'it's like they decided being bisexual and in a relationship was enough of a substitute for personality' #Which yeah I should have seen that coming but I wasn't wrong #Unfortunately he took it to mean that being bisexual is what ruined it and had no idea a character could be well written AND bisexual #When its not the bisexuality it's the writing and also! Entirely my own opinion! Other ppl think differently to me! #Just sucks when he's my dad and I have to make a compelling argument for why people like me should get to exist in fiction at all #Fuck that though I'm gonna write some big story and they're all gonna come out as bisexual for no reason just out of spite #Just one by one everyone becomes bisexual and what can he do? Complain about it? #Because mum would tear him a new asshole if he tried that shit in front of her #Anyway. Yeah. Probs was my fault because I shouldn't have mentioned the bi thing #I was just happy about it even if it wasn't up to my standards #It was silly of me. I might not have picked a fight deliberately but it was my fault #It's just frustrating because every 'plot important' bisexual is some seductress who swings both ways for their own benefit #There's no variety but it's the ONLY type of bisexual I haven't heard ppl complain about #Vent #Sorry abt this I'm just tired and angry and bisexual #(said like that isn't my default state)

[smol-and-passionate]

<Explaining to my mom just about my level of queer>

Me: ... no sexual attraction, low libido, and indifference to the concept of gender.

Mom: So you’re, like, agnostic?

Me: (laughs) I’ve literally made that joke before, but yeah! I wouldn’t really care which way I was born, tbh, since gender just seems, like, ‘fake’ to me.

Mom: Well that’s great. ((genuinely)) Your (other) mom and I had more pressure about (gendered presentation) growing up. Glad I did something right.

#my mom is so awesome #the other one sent me an animatic someone made from OFMD where Blackbeard and the other guy kiss #during a sword fight POTC style #I don't even watch OFMD but she knows I like to ship chemistry (which those characters have as far as I understand) #this might have been because i showed her the spirk post i reblogged earlier XD #about me #paraphrased with clarifying parenthesis #it's like i'm writing an article #what was also said by my mom was 'well i didn't get the queer handbook' when i described how sitting improperly in a chair was sometimes #labeled as 'bisexual sitting' #which both her and I are guilty of #(the 'shipping support' mom has a bad leg so she can't cross her legs or sit on them like we do) #queer #lgbt+ #asexual #nonbinary

[demilypyro]

So I've seen a few too many people on twitter talking about The Kiss Scene from the new Scott Pilgrim anime. People saying it's fetishistic and indulgent, people calling it male gazey, etc. And while the kiss itself is certainly a bit exaggerated, I felt like writing a bit about why I disagree, and why context is important, like it always is. But it basically turned into an extended analysis on the metatextual treatment of Roxie Richter. So bear with me. It's a long post.

What really matters about this scene is not the kiss itself, but what precedes it. Not even just the fight scene just before it, but what precedes the whole anime series, really. And that's the Scott Pilgrim comic book, and the live action movie. Because in both, Roxie is a punchline.

She's a joke. Her character starts and ends with "one of the exes is actually a girl, I bet you didn't expect that." Jokes are made about Ramona's latent bisexuality, the movie especially treating it as funny and absurd, and her validity as a romantic interest is entirely written off by Ramona as being "just a phase." There's a fight scene, she's defeated by a man giving her an orgasm which implicitly calls her sexuality into question (come on), and the movie just moves on. It sucks. It really, really sucks.

The comic fares a little better. It never veers into outright homophobia like the movie does, and while the line about Ramona having gone through a phase remains, Roxie actually gets one over on Scott when Ramona briefly gets back with Roxie. But Roxie is still only barely a character. Like all the other evil exes, she's just a stepping stone towards the male protagonist's development. She barely even gets any screentime before she's defeated by Scott's "power of love." But Roxie stands out, since she's the only villain who is queer, or at least had been confirmed queer at that point (hi Todd). In a series that champions multiple gay men in the supporting cast, the single undeniable lesbian in the story is a villain. She's labeled as evil, made fun of, pushed aside in favor of the men, and then discarded. Her screentime was never about her, or her feelings for Ramona. It was about the straight, male protagonist needing to overcome her. And that was Roxie Richter. An unfortunate victim of the 2010s.

Fast forward to current year, and the new anime series is announced. Everybody sits down to watch the new series expecting another retelling of the same story, and.... hang on, that straight male protagonist I mentioned just died in the first episode. And now it's humanizing the villains from the original story. And there's Roxie, introduced alongside the other evil exes in the second episode, and she's being played entirely straight, without a punchline in sight. No jokes are made about her gender, no questions are made of her validity as one of Ramona's romantic interests. The narrative considers her important. In one episode, she already gets more respect than she did in either of the previous iterations of Scott Pilgrim. And this isn't even her focus episode yet... which happens to be the very next one.

The anime series goes to great lengths to flesh out the original story's villains and to have Ramona reconcile with them. And I don't think it's a coincidence that Roxie gets to go first. While Matthew Patel gets his development in episode 2, Roxie is the first to directly confront Ramona, now our main protagonist. This is notable too because it's the only time the exes are encountered out of order. Roxie is supposed to be number 4, but she's first in line, and later on you realize that she's the only one who's out of sequence. She's the one who sets the precedent for the villains being redeemed. She's the most important character for Ramona to reconcile with.

What follows is probably the most extensive, elaborate 1 on 1 fight scene in the whole show. Roxie fights like a wounded animal, her motions are desperate and pained. Ramona can only barely fight back against her onslaught. Different set-pieces fly by at breakneck speed as Roxie relentlessly lays her feelings at Ramona's feet through her attacks and her distraught shouts. And unlike the comic or the movie, Ramona acknowledges them, and sincerely apologizes. And the two end up just laying there, exhausted, reminiscing about when they were together.

Only after this, after all of this, does the kiss scene happen. Roxie has been vindicated, she has reconciled with the person who hurt her, the narrative has deemed that her anger is justified and has redeemed her character. And she gets her victory lap by making the nearest other hot girl question her heterosexuality, sharing a sloppy kiss with her as the music triumphantly crescendos.

It's... a little self-congratulatory, honestly. But it's good. It's redemption for a character who had been mistreated for over a decade. And she punctuates the moment by being very, very gay where everyone can see it, no men anywhere in sight. Because this is her moment. And then she leaves the plot, on her own accord this time, while humming the hampster dance. What a legend. How could anything be wrong with this.

#scott pilgrim #spto #scott pilgrim takes off #roxie richter #roxanne richter #scott pilgrim spoilers #spto spoilers

[catboyvelfern]

it has been a YEAR since velfern has gotten content what if i kms come back my beautiful princess bbg ill treat u right

#velfern #brave nine #brown dust #brown dust 2 #i need his wife to top him #actually they're both transfem bisexuals fight me #:3c

[everythingisround]

the true bi experience is having a crush on both vidia AND terence from the tinker bell movies as a kid

#these movies made me who i am today #both literally and figuratively #i legit wanted to be tinker bell as a kid #my first ever kin…. #tinker bell #bisexual #bi #charlie’s last remaining brain cells fighting for survival