butch-bisexuals

[butch-bisexuals]

Huge commotion for the butches who can't or won't work out. To the butches who can't play any sports. To the butches who can't build or fix. To the butches who don't have the physical strength that can be so romanticized in online – but not only – spaces. To the butches who need any type of mobility aid. To the butches with mental disabilities. To the butches with chronic conditions. To the shy or reserved butches. To the fat butches. To the butches who desire to be sought out. To the butches who can't or won't make the first move. To the butches who still suffer with the predatory stigma. To the butches with softer voices, softer personalities. To the transfeminine butches. To the submissive butches. To the average sized butches. To the butches with long hair. To the she/her, he/him, they/them – or any other combination of – butches. To the butches who embrace their own brand of femininity or their own brand of masculinity. To the butches on T. To the butches who decided to undergo top surgery. To the butches who decided against it. To the butches who have chosen a new name for themselves...

To every butch who doesn't fit into the tough stereotype, and who does not necessarily need to fit into any other type of stereotype.

To every butch who feels they won't ever find someone who truly sees them, loves them...

You will.

[butch-bisexuals]

firstly, this is light-hearted positivity in jest as an add-on so it's not serious and your tone is confusing

secondly, your tags mention being a bigender bi lesbian (a butch one, no less) so i don't see the problem if this is about identity label discourse (guessing)?

my love of sentences with strings of words that start with the same letter has wormed its way into my identity

#???

[butch-bisexuals]

by the way OP, just so you know, the same person who made the flags in the last link that you took inspiration from (@/disasterbisexual), has also made this set for bi ppl, which in turn was based off of this general set for anyone, and they tend to be more popular in our community than this one! on that same note, the soft butch flag you used (by @/plurgai) is a desaturated/brightened variation of the blue/yellow/green original.

so, to me (personally), i think all four versions would look like this:

not a criticism of you or anon, just wanted to add :)

flag id: two flags with 3 stripes, with the second stripe being half the size of the rest. the left flag's stripes are soft orange, bright pink-red, and medium dark purple. the right flag's stripes are light green, sky blue, and blue. end id.

banner id: a 1500x150 teal banner with the words ‘please read my dni before interacting’ in large white text in the center. end id.

butchy/thistle femme bisexual and soft butch bisexual flags for anon!

i based these on these femme and butch bi flags, so they're colors from the thistle femme and soft butch flags in the bi flag format.

tags: @radiomogai, @orientation-archive, @fem-mogai | dni link

[butch-bisexuals]

[butch-bisexuals]

i think a big part of the (misinformed and blatantly incorrect) idea that butch bi women basically dont exist and its predominantly bi women identifying as femmes just comes down to the fact that people see gnc people and decide their sexuality for them.

its people deciding butch bi women are just lesbians, people deciding femme bi women are just straight. they do it to bi men too, too femme and youre actually gay, too masc and youre actually straight. bisexuals are erased from their own spaces and history no matter what we do, how we dress or who we love.

the amount of times people have told me they assumed i was a lesbian based on my (usually relatively boyish) presentation is insane, not because it offends me that people would think i was a lesbian, but theyre always almost affronted by the idea that a bi woman would look like me, that i would ever like a man, that men could ever like me in a way that isnt in some kind of fetishistic context. the amount of times ive gotten a "mhm. i dunno i dont see it" or straight up been accused of lying or being closeted just because i said i was bisexual, not straight, not denying my sga in any way but simply asserting that i do indeed still like men, is INSANE.

all because i act more masculine than the average caricature of gender non conforming cishet women (which is a whole other discussion) and take up space, because i dress and carry myself a specific way. its fucking absurd. like theres nothing wrong with assuming im into women - i am, but because of my masculinity im stripped of my own sexuality not just by oppressors (cishets) but even my own community.

its kind of fucking miserable that butch bi women are constantly denied either their sexuality, or their butchness. femme wlw are more likely to dodge a more specific assumption (very obviously not straight but still feminine? could be a lesbian, could be bi, who's to say?) but ive found butch bi women are constantly pushed out of the conversation, people are accepting that bi femmes DO exist but virtually everything ive seen regarding butch wlw has been so exclusive of bisexual women, and we DO see it, and we ARE hurt by it.

its just another form of bimisogyny and one that goes especially unchecked, even now, and i cannot fucking stand it.

[butch-bisexuals]

“butch is a lesbian only term” and what are you going to do about it. whine on twitter. snivel that those evil bisexuals are stealing your pure and man-free (lol) historical labels and aesthetics. tell your lesbian only discord to run a blockchain. grow up.

[butch-bisexuals]

I wish more people would talk about butch and femme experiences beyond physical appearance, that just barely scratches the surface

[butch-bisexuals]

honestly as a butch, i just gotta say it: that "chivalrous knight in shining armor" crap is objectifying as hell and it's not fun, cute, or validating to apply to us, it provides a burden for us to bear, it makes us paranoid, tired, weary and feel like we're being reduced to a stereotype, or like we're being forced into a mold.

i'm not a knight just because i'm a transmasculine person who looks tough and can theoretically protect femme queers. i'm literally just standing here, being transsexual. i'm not inherently "chilvarous," i don't have any obligation to protect people just because i adopted the label "butch". what if i'm weak? what if the butch needs to be protected? what if the butch is disabled, traumatized, or just scared? i'm a wheelchair user.

why can't femmes protect their butches? why does it always have to be the butch being the chivalrous knight in our yearning posts and poems? why do we have to weave a performative ass narrative of the masculine partner swooping in to protect their defenseless feminine partner? how the HELL is this progressive or subversive at all? this is literally reinventing the binary.

the way the (white) cis lesbian community treats its butches is alienating as all hell. we are not here just to protect other people. we are not inherently protectors. we are not all strong. we are allowed to be weak. we are allowed to be scared. we are allowed to be hurt. we don't HAVE to protect our femmes, if we like femmes at all. not every butch is attracted to femme people in the first place.

butch isn't a lifestyle, it's not a set personality type. it's not a specific set of actions; it's just queer masculinity, that can be expressed by a multitude of queers for a multitude of reasons. it's not one specific set of traits. masculinity is not just found in protecting others and acting tough, it's also in being soft, vulnerable, weak and tender.

just let butches be people, don't turn us into objects before we even get out of the gates. all of this removes the human element of being butch. if the queer community can't afford that, we can't get it from anywhere, because we sure as hell aren't seen as humans by cisheteronormative society.

don't force me to see myself as a knight when i'm the one who needs help just because i'm masculine, or just because i'm a man.

butches need help, too.

[butch-bisexuals]

this post is about bisexual butches. BI BUTCH!! save me, beautiful bi butch <3

my love of sentences with strings of words that start with the same letter has wormed its way into my identity

#these are called alliterations!

[butch-bisexuals]

hey I saw the bi woman using butch/femme post you reblogged and I just wanted to let you know that bi woman can't use butch/femme. Butch/femme is more than a label, it's part of lesbian culture. An aspect of it is being yourself and dressing and acting how you like But Not For Men, only for other lesbians. It's all about the complete exclusion of men. If bi woman are attracted to men, how can they be part of this culture?

Butch and femme identities have existed since a time when differentiating between lesbians and bi women wouldn't have been as crucial and common as simply making it known you were a woman interested in other women.

They are not part of a lesbian culture. They're part of the culture of women who love women.

That is our link and our solidarity. That we are women who love women. Cis women, trans women, lesbians, bi women, pan women, we are all unitied in our love and in our struggle.

When queer bars and groups faced violence and oppression in the past, do you think police and homophobes stopped and said "all the bisexual women here may leave. We'll only assault the lesbians." Do you think that'd happen now?

Get a grip. Bi and lesbian history is intrinsically and irrevocably intertwined.

On a personal note, the bi community is precious to me because I identified as bi for years before I realized I'm a lesbian, and my bi community supported me every step of the way and celebrated me when I came out as a lesbian. I don't identify as bi anymore of course, but that identity was an important stepping stone that will always be a part of me. Many others have gone through the same journey. Others start out identifying as lesbians, then realize they're bi. Do their butch or femme identities suddenly disappear? Does some lisence get revoked?

For reasons like this, the bi and lesbian communities are again, linked on a fundamental level that can't be separated.

I appreciate and understand that you see butch and femme as identities which exist to deny the involvement of men.

However, for me, these identities exist to focus on the involvement of women.

That includes bi women.

You're so focused on a bisexual woman's attraction to men that you forget her love for women.

You need to learn your own history.

#yes this! that part! #the highlight is so important when it's such a common mistake everyone overlooks

[butch-bisexuals]

since many of y'all on twitter still need to hear it!

hey I saw the bi woman using butch/femme post you reblogged and I just wanted to let you know that bi woman can't use butch/femme. Butch/femme is more than a label, it's part of lesbian culture. An aspect of it is being yourself and dressing and acting how you like But Not For Men, only for other lesbians. It's all about the complete exclusion of men. If bi woman are attracted to men, how can they be part of this culture?

Butch and femme identities have existed since a time when differentiating between lesbians and bi women wouldn't have been as crucial and common as simply making it known you were a woman interested in other women.

They are not part of a lesbian culture. They're part of the culture of women who love women.

That is our link and our solidarity. That we are women who love women. Cis women, trans women, lesbians, bi women, pan women, we are all unitied in our love and in our struggle.

When queer bars and groups faced violence and oppression in the past, do you think police and homophobes stopped and said "all the bisexual women here may leave. We'll only assault the lesbians." Do you think that'd happen now?

Get a grip. Bi and lesbian history is intrinsically and irrevocably intertwined.

On a personal note, the bi community is precious to me because I identified as bi for years before I realized I'm a lesbian, and my bi community supported me every step of the way and celebrated me when I came out as a lesbian. I don't identify as bi anymore of course, but that identity was an important stepping stone that will always be a part of me. Many others have gone through the same journey. Others start out identifying as lesbians, then realize they're bi. Do their butch or femme identities suddenly disappear? Does some lisence get revoked?

For reasons like this, the bi and lesbian communities are again, linked on a fundamental level that can't be separated.

I appreciate and understand that you see butch and femme as identities which exist to deny the involvement of men.

However, for me, these identities exist to focus on the involvement of women.

That includes bi women.

You're so focused on a bisexual woman's attraction to men that you forget her love for women.

You need to learn your own history.

[butch-bisexuals]

I’m so proud of bisexual butches and femmes. Being butch or femme and claiming and owning those identities can be a brave act in its own right. But.

The bisexuals that have refused to let their own history and community be torn away from them? The bisexuals that have found a home in these identities without letting biphobia and people with ahistorical notions of what being bisexual even is deter them? The bisexuals that reject the notion that they’re tainted? That reject the idea that they are available to men or live to serve men in any way?

THAT is bravery. I love you.

[butch-bisexuals]

hey, guess what?

the cat in my profile icon has a beautiful femme partner!

have a good day, butches & femmes! wishing you the best, especially if you're single and lonely like me ❤️‍🩹

#butchfemme #butch/femme #butch & femme #butch and femme #bi butch #bisexual butch #bi femme #bisexual femme #butch lesbian #femme lesbian #butch sapphic #femme sapphic #sapphic #lesbian #bisexual #glg #gwlg #wlw #cats

[butch-bisexuals]

yeah i can't be a bi butch 'cause it's not our term or whatever but have u considered that it's a nice alliteration and that means we were always destined to exist? didn't think so!

#bi butch #bisexual butch #butch bi #butch bisexual #butchfemme #butch femme #butch/femme #butch & femme #butch and femme #bisexual #bisexuality #sapphic #bi sapphic #bisexual sapphic #butch sapphic #wlw #glg #gwlg

[butch-bisexuals]

don't expect me to post or be (consistently) active here! i'm not avoiding my main blog or anything, i just like this URL and want to repost some stuff i resonate with pertaining to the topic in case anyone happens to stumble upon it. i have no interest in permanently returning to this account beyond a log-in check every once in a while.

feel free to contact me, though (even if i don't respond right away)! in the meantime, i recommend scrolling through @bi-butches; nova's blog is awesome! ☆

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[butch-bisexuals]

i really do think that bi women need to stop trying to explain themselves to biphobic misogynists, they're going to find a problem with you no matter what you do. girls, you don't owe them shit

you don't owe them an explanation for why you're attracted to multiple genders. you don't owe them an explanation for why you're dating anyone of any gender. you don't owe them an explanation for why you rejected someone of a gender you experience attraction to. you don't owe them an explanation for why you've never actually dated anyone of a gender you experience attraction to. you don't owe them an explanation for why you might call yourself a butch or femme. you don't have to wish you weren't attracted to [insert gender] just to please biphobes. you don't have to "pick a side" just to please biphobes.

and most importantly, you are allowed to tell biphobic misogynists to fuck off. you are allowed to be mean to them. you are allowed to say that you won't change for them.

#this reminds me of the pinned i used to have on my main blog for a while last year #if the OP wasn't ironically a loud & notorious biphobe regarding sapphic culture/terms #lmao.

[butch-bisexuals]

i know so many butch bisexuals and its like. we're right here. we are RIGHT. HERE. come on.

#just want a post to prove i'm not a bot and this seems simple + on-brand enough!