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Iowa State: 2023-24 Big 12 Men's Basketball Champions
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — Keshon Gilbert wrapped up a spectacular Big 12 Tournament for Iowa State with 16 points, and the seventh-ranked Cyclones blitzed No. 1 Houston to begin the second half Saturday night, allowing them to roll to a 69-41 win and their sixth championship in six appearances in the title game.
Milan Momcilovic had 18 points and Hason Ward scored 13 for the Cyclones (27-7), who have beaten five different programs to raise the trophy, including Oklahoma, which at the time was led by current Cougars coach Kelvin Sampson.
He probably felt even worse than he did in 2000. Iowa State turned a 30-23 lead at halftime into the kind of blowout Sampson has rarely experienced with an 18-3 run to start the second half. That gave the thousands of Cyclones fans that paint Kansas City red and yellow every March plenty of reasons to stand on their feet and roar their approval.
Doesn't seem to matter who is coaching them, either. T.J. Otzelberger is the fourth to win the tournament for Iowa State.
Jamal Shead had 10 points on 3-for-17 shooting for Houston (30-4), which was outscored 39-18 in the second half. L.J. Cryer was held to seven points and Emanuel Sharp to five as the Cougars shot 4 of 22 from the 3-point arc and 15 of 56 from the field.
Iowa State built its halftime lead by playing the role of Houston better than Houston.
The preternaturally poised Cyclones never wavered when they fell into an early hole. They exhibited some exquisite interior ball movement for easy layups when the Cougars' guards tried to lock down the perimeter. And when they got those buckets to go, it freed up Momcilovic and and the rest of the Iowa State sharpshooters to begin draining 3-pointers.
On the other end, the Cyclones forced Shead into off-balance runners and long 3s at the end of the shot clock; the Big 12 player of the year — and defensive player of the year — was 2 for 11 in the first half, and it didn't get any better in the second.
Cougars big man J'Wan Roberts was largely ineffective, too, after hurting his right leg and playing sparingly in their semifinal rout of Texas Tech. He started the game and played 13 first-half minutes before sitting out the second half.
He probably wouldn't have made a difference the way the Cyclones were rolling. They scored the first 10 points as part of their run to start the second half, and Momcilovic's 3 from in front of his bench pushed their lead to 48-23 with 12:40 to go.
Resorting to desperation shots, the Cougars went 9 1/2 minutes without a field goal as the game got away from them.
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Iowa State will likely be a No. 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament and could get a favorable landing spot in Omaha, Nebraska, for the opening weekend. It is only about a 2 1/2-hour drive from its campus in Ames, Iowa.
Houston almost certainly had locked up a No. 1 seed for the NCAA tourney. The question now is whether the selection committee would put the Cougars in the same region as Iowa State to set up a potential rematch.
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winehussie · 5 months
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prettyhennytea · 5 months
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In a thrilling showdown at AT&T Stadium, the Texas Longhorns emerged victorious in the Big 12 Championship, securing their fourth title in program history. This momentous win marks Texas' first championship since 2009 and positions them as strong contenders for a spot in the college football playoff. As we delve into this remarkable achievement, let's also explore the unique dynamics of this year's Big 12 Conference.
Facing off against Oklahoma State on Saturday morning, Texas showcased their prowess on the field with an impressive performance. The Longhorns dominated the game, ultimately defeating Oklahoma State by a resounding score of 49-21. This victory not only secured their status as Big 12 champions but also highlighted their exceptional skill and determination throughout the season.
With their triumph in the Big 12 Championship, Texas has positioned themselves as one of the top contenders for a coveted spot in the college football playoff. Their stellar performance throughout the season has caught national attention and increased speculation about their chances of competing for a national title.
Should they secure a place in the college football playoff, Texas will have an opportunity to showcase their talent on home turf. The football playoff national title game is set to take place inside Houston's NRG Stadium on January 8th—an exciting prospect for both players and fans alike.
This year brings significant changes to the landscape of Big 12 Conference with four new teams joining its ranks—including none other than University of Houston. This expansion adds an intriguing dynamic to conference play and sets up exciting matchups between traditional rivals and fresh faces alike.
The Texas Longhorns' triumphant victory in capturing this year's Big 12 Championship is truly historic. With hopes high for securing a spot in the college football playoff, Texas has proven their mettle on the field and captured the attention of fans nationwide. As we eagerly await the outcome of their playoff fate, we also celebrate the new look Big 12 Conference and anticipate thrilling matchups in the seasons to come.
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dalydose22 · 5 months
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jerryw2011 · 6 months
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acsn-network · 7 months
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mrjaypayton · 7 months
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State of NCAA
College Football will never be the same. Amateur sports became professional sports.
Everything is corporate now.
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sportsminorityreport · 8 months
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So what is next for Oregon State and Washington State?
With Stanford and Cal bailing on them, Conventional Wisdom is that Washington State and Oregon State would seem likely to be out of the conference rebuilding business. I think that is probably wrong. But lets look at their options.
This Big 12 passed on them as a package with Stanford and Cal last week.
The AAC recently put out a statement that they are no longer interested in Washington State and Oregon State. That smacks of the AAC being told by ESPN to back out and that ESPN would not reward them for that acquisition.
This would suggest the only path available to them is to join the Mountain West Conference. The MWC had put in a hard push to add them about 2 weeks ago. Oregon State made the comment that they would prefer to remain in a power 5 conference. Now that may have sounded tone deaf to many, but I think it was a none too subtle rebuke of the MWC designed to curry interest from the Big 12 or barring that to create their own conference or curry support in the American.
Will that come back to bite them? Probably not. The MWC has been a poorly conceived smoldering dumpster fire for years under former commissioner Craig Thompson (although their new commissioner runs a top notch lemonaid stand).
The MWC schools don't make much TV money and they pay extra money to kiss Boise State's ass. Most of their schools have lost their football edge. Any addition is an improvement for the MWC.
But it probably makes sense to try all your other options one more time before dealing with BSU trying to direct the conference and all the rest of the nonsense.
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Call ESPN and ask them if they would let you join the Big 12 at a Jr. member price, if the Big 12 schools agree. Call Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark and ask him if he would consider a package of Washington State, Oregon State, Boise State, and UCONN at a 50% share?
My impression is that it was personal for the Big 8 schools who were left behind by UT and OU. I think they resent Stanford and Cal for essentially publicly suggesting their academics were substandard. i don't think there is anything but sympathy for OSU and WSU.
Plus Oregon State and Washington State may make financial sense in a power 4 conference that doesn't have Washington and Oregon. They are schools with statewide followings in fairly wealthy neighboring states with a combined population of 11 Million and containing 2 top 30 DMAs.
Crazy as it sounds they could legitimately be worth the full $31M each to the Big 12. And, more to the point, to ESPN. Keep in mind, they are ESPN's only potential access to those states. If OSU and WSU are downgraded who knows what happens. You could have 11M wealthy Americans tuning out on ESPN for 5 years.
Financially I think this makes sense for ESPN and for Yormark, the questions are will they acknowledge it in time?
That gets Yormark a midnight eastern tv window game to sell next go around, The NYC market, and it probably gives Boise State the bump no longer being on the fringe of a footprint, to get back to being a nationally relevant brand. It also gives the Big 12 total monopoly over the 3 "Mormon brands", which doesn't hurt either....
The AAC
(I am going to include this to be complete. I believe Aresco has made up his mind to pass on the NW duo. I am a little surprised because that is a bad financial decision. I think the amount of consideration the NW duo have put into raiding his conference has him a bit chippy. But it could also be that ESPN told him to back down.)
If that doesn't work, call back ESPN and see if they will match payouts for joining the AAC. Then call back Mike Aresco and talk turkey with him. Clearly he is a hard no right now, but SHOULD he be?
The AAC is stuck in the mud as the best of the non-power conferences but a LONG way away from the power conferences. Oregon State and Washington State are the ONLY pebbles that can create a realignment ripple for the AAC to ride.
The AAC adding Oregon State and Washington State is not going to bump up AAC payouts in the short term, but it would open the door for a very unhappy camper to correct a past mistake and join the AAC.
Yes, I am talking about San Diego State.
Aresco hasn't been able to land SDSU because SDSU doesn't want to be on an island out west. Boise State has effectively owned SDSU, much to SDSU's dismay. Aresco chases Boise State and BSU uses it as leverage to get more out of the MWC.
if Oregon State and Washington State were in the AAC, I think San Diego State would jump, arriving in 2 years.
Texas State could be added to replace SMU and suddenly you have three big additional financial levers to use when you eventually renegotiate. You have the potential of a midnight eastern game window to sell in the western trio, viewership in time zones coast to coast. and you have representation in all 4 of Texas's big media markets. That combo will net the conference in today's money probably an added $1-3M each school.
And it opens doors. With SDSU gone, the value of the MWC diminishes. Fresno State would likely want to come, giving a sensible and competitive bridge between SDSU and the Northern Schools. Longtime targets CSU and Air Force, who Aresco almost got in the last realignment dance, would probably reconsider. New Mexico would be willing to jump ship.
With those schools in hand, the TV value of the MWC would implode and future AAC payouts would rise again.
And yes, Mike Aresco, you finally would get a realistic chance to land Boise State, you crack fiend. (I totally do not understand the man's fixation with BSU. They are a solid add, but they aren't a must have. They haven't been BSU for a decade. North Dakota State is Boise State today.)
But that is just me being a completionist... I think the MWC is looking more and more likely and it isn't truly that bad of an option...
The MWC
As much as I bash the MWC, it is more for the reasons that people bashed the PAC --- the schools overvalue themselves and historically have been foolishly shortsighted with their expansion decisions ---- not because there isn't value in their schools.
Taking a positive look at the MWC, it is a slumbering, tarnished basketball juggernaut that has decent moments in football. A group of SDSU, Fresno State, Boise State, Washington State, and Oregon State does a LOT to fix their football failings.
And geographically Washington State and Oregon State are tailor made to elevate the MWC.
Plus MWC Commissioner Gloria Nevarez would make a competent commissioner of that merged organization. Dissolve the MWC and then terminate the PAC staff and let the MWC people run things.
But where are her loyalties? If I am WSU and OSU after everything I have gone through, I am not accepting Boise State being paid more than the other schools in the conference. I don't want any nonsense.
A dissolution of the MWC and all 12 schools being added to the PAC makes sense for everyone except maybe Boise State and ESPN.
I think you could pacify ESPN. I think you could tell them let us collapse the conference and you can resign the new PAC at the per team payouts of the MWC plus say 10M each for the two Pac schools for the same remaining 3 year (?) window and we will divide that sum evenly.
Dividing the TV money evenly may be a tough pill to swallow, especially at WSU, but as the Big 12 has shown, discarded but valuable schools that work together can accomplish great things.
Divide the $60M in basketball revenue that the other Pac schools have abandoned today in half between WSU and OSU at the start and apply that to your budgetary shortfalls, WSU. You guys have earned it. Then move on. Everything else is new business and equal shares.
It also give you the ability to take conference leadership from Boise State and share it more appropriately between Oregon State, Washington State, and San Diego State.
When Boise had leverage they used it to deal themselves a better hand than their conference competition. Being fair with your new conference partners as you share the PAC brand with them would certainly create positive loyalty unheard of in the west.
You dissolve the conference eliminating exit fees and offer all 12 of them slots probably making a slight raise...maybe a million more a year each.... Except for Boise State who would see their economic advantage disappear and might actually lose a little money.
I think it is 70-30 that Boise State calls Aresco and says, "You can snort us all you want, Mike Aresco! We are coming." Aresco is a smart guy. He can see down the road a few blocks. He may have shut down expansion talks specifically to create the opportunity to land BSU as SMU's replacement.
Whether Boise State stays at that point doesn't matter.
But I would lay it out with the MWC schools that the PAC crumbled because we weren't aggressive in expansion, just like the football WAC did. We have to commit to being aggressive in expansion in the future to survive. We have to look at any option that generates more money.
Will they be aggressive? Probably not.
That is a good scenario and a viable one. You can get ESPN on board, You can get the MWC commish on board. You can get the MWC schools on board.
New conference
After thinking about how well the MWC reverse merger could work, I don't really want to talk about the still viable possibilities of building a new conference. Talk for another day.
Take your time. Cross your t's dot your i's. Chose the right option for you.
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hwit2016 · 8 months
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Friday, September 1, 2023 – The Official Season of Snarky Friday Kicks-Off
Friday, September 1, 2023 – The Official Season of Snarky Friday Kicks-Off Tomorrow is the kick-off for NCAA Division I Football season. I know there were games yesterday, but I’m saving my Florida Alligator and Utah Two Utes for later. But dang, the two UTES looked good! Obviously I am excited to see Texas A&M in our Redemption Year. The Texas Aggies play the New Mexico Lobos in Kyle Field at…
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justinssportscorner · 9 months
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Alex Kirshner at Slate:
The Pac-12 Conference, which started in 1915 as the Pacific Coast Conference and donned a bunch of names over a successful century of Western teams playing games with each other, is dead. After USC and UCLA exited for the Big Ten last summer, and after Colorado headed for the Big 12 last month, the conference took on additional water on Friday: Oregon and Washington, the Pac-12’s biggest remaining fish, joined their Los Angeles counterparts in the Big Ten. The Big 12 Conference is now also adding Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah, news that broke just minutes after the Pacific Northwest schools decided to join the Midwest. The future is deeply murky for the biggest schools left in the Pac-12 now, Stanford and Cal in the Bay Area. And it looks only grim for two of the quirkiest and most fun programs in college football: Oregon State and Washington State, who are losing their blood rivals (Oregon and Washington) to another league but aren’t getting the call to decamp themselves. The specifics will fall into place in the days ahead. The big picture is already a bleak one. The degradation of the Pac-12, and now its imminent outright death as anything like what it has always been, is a college sports tragedy. In some part, this moment is a natural destination for a train that left its station decades ago and will run over more of college sports’ nice old things in the years to come. But what has happened to the Pac-12 wasn’t inevitable and certainly didn’t need to unfold as quickly as it did. What college sports fans know as the Conference of Champions is at death’s door because of cold, hard capitalism, yes, but also because the people in charge of stewarding the Pac-12 were the wrong mix of arrogant and incompetent.
College sports has been transmogrifying into a made-for-TV product since the mid-1980s, when the Supreme Court stripped the NCAA of its top-down control of football television rights and left teams and conferences to make their own agreements. As one cycle of gigantic TV deals has given way to the next, the Pac-12 has slid into a more pronounced disadvantage against its peers in the South and Midwest. College football is a religion in the Southeastern Conference’s footprint and in much of the Big Ten’s, though the latter now covers both the parts of the country obsessed with football and the parts that are not. The Big Ten and SEC have lucrative TV networks of their own that they run in partnership with ESPN and Fox, and the leagues sell the rights to broadcast their games—their inventory, in industry parlance—for hundreds of millions of dollars. The financial edge of the big two leagues cost the Pac-12 both UCLA and USC in a realignment move to the Big Ten last summer, and the same edge has now cost them Oregon and Washington to render the Pac-12 unrecognizable. When those schools left, three others fled in response to the Big 12, and suddenly, it was all over. The Northwestern Big Ten entrants might only get half the money of a normal Big Ten member, but that will be more than they were likely to get if they had stayed in the outgunned Pac-12. Someone might look at the TV cash disparity and conclude the Pac-12 never had a chance to survive. But the Pac-12’s predicament is worse than simply not being able to compete financially with the Big Ten and SEC. The world was big enough for the league to survive in a reasonably strong form anyway, as a secondary but still powerful conference with a distinct Western identity. The reason the Pac-12 is instead finished is that its leaders messed up repeatedly and gruesomely until they couldn’t blow it anymore.
[...] All of this adds up to something a little less severe than the death of Western college football, because the teams involved will keep playing games. Fans will keep tailgating, their lives mostly unaffected by how much TV money their alma maters are raking in. But the reduction or demise of the Pac-12 will have serious costs. It could end either the Washington–Washington State rivalry known as the Apple Cup or the Oregon–Oregon State game that they used to call the Civil War. (The departing schools say they’ll prioritize maintaining those games, and we can only hope that stays true forever.) It will weaken the geographic distinction in a sport that used to see provincialism as a feature, not a bug. And it will pit schools against teams they share no history or animus with, in an 18-team Big Ten (at least) where some teams will go years without playing each other. They’ll all be richer. There is no guarantee that they, or anyone, will be happier.
The demise of the Pac-12 was entirely avoidable. USC and UCLA's defections to the Big Ten (B1G) were the warning shot of P12's demise; however, the conference still could have been in a manageable shape.
But when Colorado hightailed it back to the Big 12, the dominoes began to really unravel for the Pac-12's survival. Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah joined Colorado to the Big 12, and Washington and Oregon went to the B1G, leaving behind Washington State, Oregon State, Cal, and Stanford in a rudderless P12.
In truth, the Pac-12's disaster began with the Pac 12 Networks, and will end with messes.
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reportwire · 1 year
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Kansas' Self to miss Big 12 tourney after medical procedure
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — Kansas coach Bill Self will miss the Big 12 Tournament after going to the emergency room Wednesday night for what doctors called “a standard procedure,” and it’s uncertain whether he will be back for the NCAA Tournament. Dr. Steve Stites, the chief medical officer at the University of Kansas Health System, said Self did not have a heart attack, which some outlets had…
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bongaboi · 1 year
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Texas: 2022-23 Big 12 Men's Basketball Champions
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- — Dylan Disu overcame early foul trouble to score 18 points, Marcus Carr and Sir'Jabari Rice added 17 apiece, and seventh-ranked Texas silenced a heavily pro-Kansas crowd with a 76-56 romp over the third-ranked Jayhawks in the Big 12 Tournament title game Saturday night.
After going more than two decades without a Big 12 tourney championship, the Longhorns (26-8) have won two of the past three, and likely wrapped up a No. 2 seed in next week's NCAA Tournament with their performance in Kansas City.
With interim coach Rodney Terry leading the way, the Longhorns built a 39-33 lead by halftime, extended it to 20 down the stretch and coasted toward a shower of confetti during a net-cutting celebration.
Jalen Wilson scored 24 points and Joseph Yesufu, pressed into the starting lineup due to injuries, finished with 11 for the Jayhawks (27-7), who had won 13 of their previous 16 trips to the Big 12 finals.
The question now is whether the defending national champs did enough before Saturday night to earn the overall No. 1 seed for the NCAA Tournament, and with it a favorable road through Kansas City in the regional round.
Kansas was once again without Hall of Fame coach Bill Self, who went to the emergency room on the eve of its quarterfinal for an undisclosed medical procedure. Self's longtime assistant and acting coach, Norm Roberts, once again called the shots from the sideline for the championship game.
On the other side stood Terry, who certainly didn't expect to be pulling the strings for Texas. But when Chris Beard was fired for an off-the-court incident early in the season, the former Fresno State and UTEP coach not only kept his talented team together but guided it to a second-place finish in the regular season.
Right behind the Jayhawks, who also happened to be defending Big 12 Tournament champs.
Both teams were missing starters Saturday night due to injuries — Kevin McCullar Jr. for the Jayhawks, Timmy Allen for the Longhorns — yet there was still plenty of star power on display inside the T-Mobile Center.
Wilson, the league's player of the year, kept the Jayhawks afloat during a scattershot first half. He scored 17 points, more than half their total, while pounding the glass and even picking up a steal.
Texas, meanwhile, relied on depth and balance in forging a 39-33 halftime lead. It had to after losing Disu, who already had been a revelation the previous two rounds, to a pair of fouls less than eight minutes into the game.
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natecfbb · 1 year
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big changes to the big 12 and SEC starting in 2024
In 2024 the sec will get two new teams with the addition of the Texas Longhorns and the Oklahoma Sooners but here are some things that we need to understand at the outset.
1 : Oklahoma and Texas have agreed in principle to pay the Big 12 a total of $100 million to join the SEC in 2024, a year earlier than they had originally intended, the conference announced last night.
2 : The agreement is subject to the final approval from the Oklahoma and Texas governing boards. While the price tag, a fee that the league is describing as foregone distributable revenues, seems like a hefty amount to pay for the early exit, both schools are expected to be able to partially offset the cost with future revenues.
to that end here's a statement, From Brett Yormack (big ten commissioner) :"As I have consistently stated, the conference would only agree to an early withdrawal if it was in our best interest for Oklahoma and Texas to depart prior to June 30, 2025,(contd)"By reaching this agreement, we are now able to accelerate our new beginning as a 12-team league and move forward in earnest with our initiatives and future planning. I appreciate the approaches of OU President Joe Harroz and UT President Jay Hartzell to ensure an amicable conclusion to this process, and look forward to the bright days ahead for the Big 12 Conference."
Now what will happen to the big12? well on On July 1, the Big 12 will officially add BYU, Central Florida, Cincinnati and Houston and it will compete as a 14-team league for the upcoming season. Sources told ESPN recently that both parties were interested in finding a way for the schools to leave early, but when the athletic directors and presidents met last week in Dallas, there was no resolution. It was a quick change that even surprised some leadership within the league on yesterday afternoon. But there are some scheduling changes that will come in effect allow me to explain.
A key part of the deal to let the two schools out early was a game flip of a nonconference matchup between Michigan and Texas, sources told ESPN. Texas will now visit Michigan in 2024 in Ann Arbor and Michigan will return the game in Austin in 2027, according to sources. That game had been scheduled to play out the opposite way. The flip was a key driver in Fox agreeing to the deal, per sources.
Likewise with ESPN, holds the entire rights to the SEC starting in 2024, which is the same season USC and UCLA are heading to the Big Ten and the College Football Playoff is expanding to 12 teams
To Round things out here's a statement from Texas tech president & Big 12 Conference Board of Directors Chairman Lawrence Schovanec. "This agreement would not have occurred without the collaboration of the presidents and chancellors of all 10 Big 12 universities, and our tremendous partners at ESPN and FOX. I am very grateful for everyone's efforts to make today's announcement possible."
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Texas president Jay Hartzell said the Longhorns are looking forward to completing a final 2023-24 season with "our friends and rivals."
"We have always been committed to fulfilling our contractual obligations to the Big 12," Hartzell said in a prepared statement. "The collegiate athletics landscape has continued to evolve rapidly, and working together to accelerate our exit produced benefits for all parties."
Oklahoma president Joseph Harroz Jr. said the decision allows everyone "to move ahead with clarity and certainty."
"With the new era of collegiate athletics fully upon us, an opportunity emerged for all parties involved to explore the value of an early departure," he said. "These terms further guarantee the sustainability, stability, competitiveness and excellence of us all. The exciting matchups and passionate rivalries of the past quarter century will always be a celebrated part of our shared history. We look forward to showcasing that intensity this season, next season and beyond
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anygivengameday · 1 year
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Texas Tech Red Raiders at #18 TCU Horned Frogs
Saturday, December 31, 2022
Ed & Rae Schollmaier Arena, Fort Worth, TX
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madman731 · 1 year
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Great day to go see #CycloneFootball play and win!
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