#address the audience

[sergle]

(re: sssniperwolf and jacksfilms) It's laughable that she escalated it that hard. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure stalking him like that is illegal and it's terrifying regardless, but Jack said in a stream (can't remember which one) that he wasn't about bringing up past controversies of hers or cancelling. And now she shows up outside his house (wtf!!!). Like he was willing to only call her out for stealing and freebooting but she's gone and stalked him and Jack doesn't seem like the type of guy to take that shit. Actual WTF moment from her part. wild

omg long post below bc apparently I have opinions: YES!! THAT'S WHAT'S SO INCREDIBLE ABOUT THIS... Jack has been genuinely diligent about keeping things on-topic in his streams, and hasn't brought up any of her other Stuff, or anything Personal. Despite the fact that she kickstarted the whole thing by making it INCREDIBLY personal and attacking his physical appearance... His goal has been to call out and bring attention to content theft, and he's stuck with it. Dude's also cared about this for years, and she's not the first content thief he's criticized. He just hates the way that freebooting has become so accepted-- to the point where youtube praised her for "coming up with such creative video ideas"? Hey! Ew! Dude wasn't trying to get her cancelled though, there was no smear campaign of her character. He's been rallying to get her to CREDIT the creators that she relies on for all of her content. It would set a precedent for all other "react" channels on the platform for one of the biggest channels on youtube to actually give credit where credit is due. Or, god forbid, get permission first? It's not hard. It's already done the job of making some other people who do "react content" self-analyze whether or not their content is transformative, and to maybe care about crediting the creators they rely on for their genre to work. There is a way to make this kind of video that isn't so slimy. And making fun of her lackluster-at-best reactions is so far from even being a big deal. Bc she literally does just sit there and say nothing. Plus, his goal has a clear End built into it: if she started shouting out the creators she takes content from, and put links directly to their pages in her video descriptions, the job would be done! That's what he's asking her to do. Real bare minimum stuff. It legit would have been easy to steer away from the content theft and to also talk about her history of lying to her audience! her ghosting a dying kid with cancer who was a big fan of hers! the fact that she's been arrested for armed robbery! her history of transphobia! He would also get more clicks that way, which is what she claims is his sole goal- to get more clicks. I'll bring it up though! She's been a terrible person the whole time, and has kept a steady course of manipulating her audience of young children and/or, let's be completely honest, simps- into thinking that she's a Wholesome creator. (And now, into thinking she's an innocent victim.) All of the actual effort put in by her has gone toward optics, not the content she puts out. A carefully constructed online persona, for one, but also literal appearances. Jack totally can't say this, bc she already went off the handle and said the only reason he doesn't like her is bc he Hates To See A Woman Be Successful. But I can! That was a cheap shot for her to use that argument when, for once, it's not applicable! Much the opposite, even! Dudes online wouldn't go to bat for her if she didn't look the way she does. And it weakens any case she'd have against him by making baseless claims like that. She banks hugely on being an attractive woman to get her clicks/following. A massive amount of effort is put into her appearance. The makeup, the lip fillers, putting her hair in little pigtails, the chokers and tube tops, the big non-prescription Nerd Glasses, the thumbnails where she has her mouth open in That Expression?

I don't even have to say anything. But making a weird facial expression and putting your hair in pigtails aren't moral failings. Showing up at someone's real life home (whose address you shouldn't even have access to), filming the front of their house at night, doxxing them to your audience of millions of people? Because you were mad at them online? That is fully scary! Yeah girl I'm pretty sure that Jack can press charges! There is absolutely no way to take the moral highground now that she's literally stalked him, and doxxed his home. She tried to goad him and Erin (Jack's wife) out of the house, also, which creeps me out even more-- because what was she planning to do? The fact that she's been arrested for violent crime before does pop into my mind! lmao! Jack was streaming a game at the time that she was outside his home, and these clips of him, his friends, and Erin reacting in real time to what is genuinely a scary situation have been taken down in case he needs to use them in legal action. Shit is legitimately serious!

#sergle answers #long post #LONGEST POST ON EARTH I'M SO SORRY #saying all this out loud only takes a few minutes but typing it... girl this is a BOOK #clearly I have thoughts on this Online Drama but also this isn't online! #these are people who exist in real life. and compromising a person's safety bc he criticized you for stealing tiktoks #is a real life thing. this isn't confined to online spaces! you can turn off your computer to get away from An Argument #but someone going to your house?? that's absolutely terrifying #and all of this is just because he's been telling her to credit the creators. it could have been resolved so simply. #I hope he takes legal action against her bc he genuinely has grounds to do so. #and I can't imagine how terrified and upset I would be if someone was outside my door. filming my house for their audience. #also the 'what if the roles were reversed' argument is rarely made in good faith... but she's already brought up the topic. #this would be getting even more coverage and the optics would be Even Creepier if a strange man with millions of followers showed up #at the home of a woman- just bc she criticized his videos- filming her home address for all to see and trying to get her to come outside. #It's just as creepy that sssniperwolf did this as it would be coming from ANYONE else #it's been downplayed bc her being a little skinny woman means that A Man shouldn't be threatened by her #which. even if she wasn't going to Do anything. any one of her rabidly loyal online followers MIGHT. she's not the only one who could go to #his house now! anyone could show up. #sergle.txt #Jacksfilms #Sssniperwolf

[lollytea]

I need to watch Sharpay's Fabulous Adventure to reach my final conclusion on if she's even attracted to men

#girl help i keep thinking about sharpay and ryan being each others only friend growing up #theyre not very good at interpersonal relationships #romance is foreign to them. they dont care about playing romantic interests because they only view romance through the lens of theatre #fake. not real. an act to entertain an audience. so they dont understand why it would be weird #neither of them have ever kissed anyone #sharpay likes things that make her look better #because her whole life is a performance #so she wants troy because hes a shiny accessory to her #thinking about hsm 2 where once again when she tries to perform a romantic song (with troy this time and not her brother) #she still barely fucking looks at him #all of her attention is on the (nonexistent) audience #and ryan. ryan hm #ryan usually performs alongside sharpay #its usually an in universe performance. theyre on a stage. theres an audience #and all of his attention is on pleasing that audience #an exception to this is during the gay baseball song #where theres a different kind of audience BUT #ryan barely looks at them #most of his attention is directed solely to chad #talking flirting teasing being cocky and annoying but clearly addressing him directly through most of the song #first time this has happened with ryan. take that as you will #ANYWAY i can see sharpay as completely uninterested in romance but she hasnt realized that about herself #and she THINKS she wants it. because she sees it as glamorous #or maybe shes a lesbian i dont know #she might be a lesbian #the deciding factor is sharpays fabulous adventure #if she has chemistry with the guy in that movie then shes just repressed and clueless #if she doesnt shes aro #or possibly lesbian

[time-slink]

'I've got a secret Iskall... I'm not actually a ninja, I just play the character' does this imply that Character Etho actually IS a ninja. is it funnier to interpret it like that or that he's larping as a ninja in-universe

#shush slinky #i oscillate between both i think both are great #also is this the closest etho has come to addressing the fourth wall like. character wise not audience wise lol

[wakeupthemembersofbylernation]

The idea of Mike “gently rejecting” Will in S5 is such a silly concept to me. It truly would make zero sense from a narrative perspective or from a character arc perspective. That’s why many Mlvn diehards don’t even really believe it will happen. They believe the show will move on without ever really addressing the Mike-shaped elephant in the room. They believe Will’s happy ending will simply consist of his friends and family accepting him and giving him a hug, and that’s it. And maybe he’ll get an unnamed bf in the finale. (That is, unless the show makes Will a secret villain and kills him off. Then at least he’d be interesting).

Some even take Will’s words at facevalue, believing that El truly commissioned the painting or at least that the intense romantic feelings Will described really belong to her. Now that Mike has confessed his love, they believe that S5 will finally consist of happy Mlvn couple moments, so there won’t be any time for Mike and Will to be together even as friends to talk about any lingering feelings. And why would there be time, since it’s the apocalypse after all, and Will is just a plot device and isn’t really relevant to anything? The Duffers must be exaggerating his importance to S5. The Core 4 is Mike, El, Lucas, and Dustin. Will’s romantic desires are meaningless.

They have to believe all this, cause if they don’t, and they still want to believe in Mlvn endgame, they have to conclude that Will’s emotional desires will be central to the plot of S5, Will’s feelings are the glue that put Mlvn back together, the painting will come up again because El didn’t actually commission it, Mike and Will will be close enough in S5 to have meaningful heart-to-hearts, AND Mike is 100% straight and will…. gently reject Will and promise to always be good pals; he just sadly doesn’t swing that way?

Silliness, objectively.

Anyway, Byler endgame.

#byler #will byers #mike wheeler #stranger things #stranger things 5 #‘but sometimes unrequited love just happens! didn’t robin lovingly/gently reject steve?’ #okay but you see how that’s different right? #you see how a character we just met rejecting another character with a crush within the context of one season because they are a lesbian #is very different from a boy finally confessing his feelings to his childhood best friend #after 5 seasons of building up how special and distinct and different their bond is #and after devoting his entire arc in the penultimate season to making those feelings clear to the audience #without actually addressing it/directly having him confess in said season #only to finally confess his feelings (that he and most of the audience already believes are unrequited) #and get ‘gently rejected’ by that best friend who is straight and that’s all there is to it #you see how that’s completely different and makes no sense narratively right? #yes you do #that’s why you downplay will’s feelings #or you downplay will as a character #because that’s the only thing preventing your house of cards from crumbling

[athena-willowthorne]

ok I know I'm going to be drowned out as one of many and I don't want to be the guy feeding the public frenzy right now but I want to offer my thoughts on the watchertv situation.

I've been a fan of ryan and shane for almost 6 years. I got into them when I was around 12-13, and now, at 18 years old, they've occupied a fairly significant part of the last third of my life. I feel reasonably confident in saying I've watched everything they've ever made, from buzzfeed and watcher, and when they went out to found watcher, I was abundantly happy to welcome steven into my parasocial love for them. I feel like I've grown up with them, and going off to college next year, it was never a question in my mind that they'd follow with me. I mean, I bought their unsolved book the second it was announced, and I even snagged a ghost files shirt and a professor plush when he was rereleased. I took the professor to the lizzie borden house for my 18th birthday overnight, and wow was that an expense, but I've wanted to go ever since middle school when I stumbled across buzzfeed unsolved for the first time. in short, losing them is like losing a constant presence in my life, a cherished presence, no matter how ridiculously parasocial that makes me sound.

when I heard about watchertv, I was crushed. in the past couple days, I've jumped from betrayal to desperation to grief to bitter anger. but I think I've landed now in a place where those make more sense to me. I agree wholeheartedly with so many commenters on every platform right now. they're just like me, feeling let down and disappointed by the people we've idealized, and gotten used to seeing for free. but I also understand exactly how this idea came about, I know what it's like to feel backed into a corner on something, forced to make a hard choice where it feels like only a radical shift will save you. we as fans were there for the three of them, their dynamic. but their dreams don't match up. they want freedom to make what they want, and they feel passionate about growth to tv quality. that's what they're aspiring to, I do genuinely think that.

I won't sit here and go on about the different takes people have made about steven's masterminding or shane's reluctance. the bitter stuff that's been said feels very harsh. but I can't condemn the people saying things out of anger that aren't targeted. it's ok for them to feel upset. sure, maybe it sucks that it has to come out on a public forum like the internet but it's valid nonetheless. but on their end, that's got to hurt. I hope so dearly that watchertv succeeds, even if it has to change a lot to do that. a subscription service isn't what we want, but it's what they believe will let them make the quality content they want to. that's worth pursuing, and I care about them so much that I want them to go for it.

I hate that I can't follow them into this next chapter. and I'm sure a lot of other people are too, and however they choose to feel that is perfectly ok. but their creative satisfaction and happiness does not depend on me, and it shouldn't be limited by what I can or am willing to do.

anyway my heart goes out to them truly. I'll miss them in college, and probably forever, and hopefully our paths cross again. but even if we don't, I'm happy for the memories I was able to make, I hope every other upset fan feels the same way eventually too :))

#btw I will be spending my 6 dollars on palestine. I feel that that's a better use of my money lol #to every fan on both sides of the audience: stop infighting please everyone is feeling different things and we're all processing differentl #I will be a lifelong fan by the way nothing could make me hate them #I love steven lim !!! in case he hasn't been getting enough of that !! I don't care if he proposed the idea or not I love him !!!!! #I hope they're not stressing rn over damage control :(( #anyway watch me post this and they address the whole thing tomorrow lol #watcher entertainment #watcher #ryan bergara #shane madej #ryan and shane #steven lim

[lesbians4finnwolfhard]

mike wheeler deserves his own episode, if you even care.

#and the world #idk i feel like there’s so much to him that has to be addressed #ga really needs to see everything he’s gone through #he has so much unaddressed trauma #also i just love mike #mike wheeler #byler #<- target audience !!

[vividxp]

I've tried a couple of times to get my thoughts organized regarding white viewers commentary on how AMC's IWTV handles race, but I'll just simply say there's definitely a cynicism that is common in a lot of those analysis that is...bemusing.

#iwtv #amc iwtv #iwtv discourse #it's hard to describe #but it's half 'amc did the raceswap to get wokeness points so they have to beat audiences on the head with it every other minute' #and half 'oh they're just addressing race in the wrong way and it hurts the credibility of loustat as a couple' #i remember when maven in one of her reactions was like the show is making lestat a white savior #and literally all the black people (including me) in comments were like 'huh??' #I was also reading another recap that was generally really good and interesting esp about nola #but they thought Claudia calling Lestat massa #was the show handling race clumsily #which is just fascinating to me because wow folks really don't know why Claudia was doing that? #like that felt perfectly in character and spot on to me #first off she legitimately feels that way and we see her say that in the show #but at the same time it's also a point of attack that she can make without reprisal from lestat #lestat basically like disengages when she does it and it's funny to me ngl

[theshadowrealmitself]

You know what I don’t remember the show addressing? The fact that Tucker and Danny are childhood friends while Sam befriended them later on, I’m just really surprised that there wasn’t any episodes (in my memory) that addressed the fact that there would be times where Sam would feel like an outsider because of all the memories and inside jokes the two of them would share, also because it would be v likely that Tucker and Danny would work better as a team together since they’ve had more time together

I think they should’ve emphasized that more just so it’s even more heartbreaking to Danny that Tucker, his bestest friend above others, his closest relationship, resents him for being a half ghost while he isn’t

#danny phantom #dp #danny fenton #tucker foley #sam manson #they do kinda address it #but really only when Sam is asking a question for Tucker to answer and it’s obvious #that it’s actually supposed to be exposition for the audience

[rovermcfly]

hey. I have some words of advice and encouragement for those who need it

it is not normal or inevitable to have your time on the internet be dominated by hate and harassment. maybe you think it is because it's been going on for so long or maybe it's because you're a minority or because all your online friends seem to experience it. but you absolutely have to believe me when I say this: it doesn't have to be that way.

you are allowed to block people that upset you or annoy you. you're allowed to unfollow people that only post discourse. you're allowed to ignore trolls and other bad faith actors. you're allowed to carve out a place for yourself on the internet where you can feel safe.

yes, everyone will once in a while get a hateful message or otherwise be harassed. but you can take steps to make sure those occasions are rare outliers.

mental harm is still harm. on the internet you are in a blessed, unique position to prevent getting harmed by others. for example, when you speak out about your life as a minority and someone sends you hate about it you can choose not to read it and block the person that intended to harm you. and I know you think it's better to confront it because it will change people's minds or bring awareness to how much harassment you get. but it won't do those things. it will only cause you harm.

get out of the pit of despair. maybe it's so bad you have to cut some ties to mutuals for this. maybe you have to delete your blog and start over. but you are not powerless, you are not doomed to this existence, you can change this and make your life online bearable, even enjoyable. believe me, you are allowed to enjoy it.

#there are additional layers here but I feel like I need to be addressing a whole different target audience for those #from the drafts

[northern-passage]

You don't have to respond to this if you don't want to, I know it will start unneeded drama but I just found it soooo interesting that, since the transphobic blog lets you see their likes, most of their likes are TWC related. And it's not like that fandom is notorious for being a toxic hellspace, no sir.

to be frank it's not just twc, the IF space as a whole is pretty notorious for being toxic at this point. whether you're on tumblr or reddit or the forums, you're going to find these kinds of people lurking around.

that was why i did post that person's username because i could see them interacting with various other authors, and it's best to just block them before they send you something stupid, too.

just like any large online community there are going to be a lot of trolls trying to get attention by sending inflammatory messages or leaving cruel comments wherever they can; i've been getting that kind of stuff sent to me or left in reviews or comments for years now. and currently losers online are having a fucking field day with everything that's going on right now - racism, islamophobia, antisemitism, transphobia, even gore, i've gotten it all in my inbox over the last few months and i've seen others get even worse. these people are pathetic and not worth your time. i've gotten better at not responding to stuff like that, but it is hard to resist that instinctive anger, and that's exactly why they do it & exactly why you see it in every single fandom/online space.

all of that to say, just ignore and block them and you'll have a far better time online than if you constantly try to argue or reason with them because they don't care, their only goal is to make you miserable. even if you think you have some epic clapback, it's not worth it, you're still giving them the attention they clearly desperately want and potentially exposing others to harmful rhetoric. just block 'em, babey!

#it's also why i didn't bother actually responding to that person's message cus there was no reason to share it #just for them to get some weirdo satisfaction from it #i really try to only respond if i feel like it's something i can properly address in a meaningful way #but you can tell when asks are just meant to upset you and you should just block and delete those #and i dont care about twc but i dont think its helpful to blame one single group here #when overall the fandom space within IF and elsewhere is always kinda rancid #i cannot stress enough to just block people. i've gotten way more liberal about it over the years #there's no reason for you to have to interact with every single person just cus you're in the same space #even as an author #extracting myself from certain circles has helped me way more than trying to appease an audience that hates me #anyways it's been upsetting this past few months to see the depravity of some people that are just reveling in all of this #that's why i kinda wanted to respond to this. it's bleak out here but you'll always have the block button and the knowledge #that despite it all you aren't someone who wasted their time harassing random strangers on the internet! #ask #anonymous

[birdricks]

just remembered the pheonixperson fight [walking into the ocean]

#litearllye very single fucking thing about it. #what did they do to you…. #i loved her. #then you were always a bad friend. #never thought this was how id die. #and other memorable quotes. #i rlly hope if (WHEN.) they bring bp back they address his time as pp #bc its rlly quite horrifying. ik they did to some extent w rickternal friendshine #but theres a lot of layers to it that u cld still go into. especially the fact that hes probably 90% artificial now. #andddddd w birddaughter. pleaseeeee #but oh my god. really so heartbreaking for rick to spend all that time mourning bp #i mean. not technically canon but in the comics he mentions it A BUNCH #and then he finds out hes alive. but as a zombie who barely recognises him. and then he nearly kills rick. #its crazy to think that pp was a One episode thing technically #like he was in the post credits of another ep and it took a while to fix him #but for us the audience he was only in action for. 10 mins? #if that #but ohh… how long was he working for the federation behind the scenes…. i dread to think #and his memories now…. he like blew up his fucking mind. im curious how much he actually remmebers of it #ohhhh bp … 💖 pleaseeee please come back to us

[her-midas-touch]

I just really hate milkvan reasoning that byler shouldn’t be endgame because that would leave el hopeless and heartbroken.

I mean, even if you don’t see the possibility of byler, it’s still pretty apparent why milkvan endgame would in itself be poor writing.

From s1, it’s obvious el has a lot of trauma, seeing as she grew up in the lab as a kid, goes through all that shit with brenner and the whole henry/vecna/001 thing is so traumatizing for her that she didn’t even remember time much later.

And throughout, she is quite out of touch with basic vocabulary concepts and differentiating between the concepts of actually liking/being attracted to someone vs valuing the idea of a romantic relationship and reaching for the other person to have a sense of that safety.

Her s2 arc is also important in terms of her trying to find her place, getting to know her roots and working on her powers. And as significant as it is for her growth, it’s important to note mike isn’t central to it. El’s arc is very separate from the route they’re taking with milkvan’s relationship. El’s development seems to take place when she’s apart from mike.

By s3, it’s pretty clear from what el tells max that she doesn’t actually know what she likes yet. She’s still figuring herself out as a person and exploring her likes and dislikes. And the thing is, she’s already in a relationship without a proper idea of her preferences yet. She still needs to “try things on” until she finds something that feels like her, something that max specifies, isn’t “mike or hopper” but rather her.

And yeah, this is just a fun little bonding for the mall scene but it is quite indicative of the fact that el is still finding herself out. She even admits to max she doesn’t even know if he’s a good kisser because mike is her first boyfriend. She hasn’t had experience with any of it. And that’s part of the problem. She’s already in a relationship with mike without even a clear, basic sense of self. She doesn’t even know if she likes mike yet, rather than just the idea of him and the security that she associates with him.

But anyway, her friendship with max in s3 is so important to her development as a character because she’s with a girl her age finally beginning to realize that romantic relationships aren’t everything. And sure the milkvan break-up is sort of played off as a joke, but it’s also el kind of exploring her new found freedom and knowledge, experiencing being a regular kid.

Max opens her up to the idea of knowing her self worth. And I do feel like this is important because of the almost overwhelming presence of male authority imposed on her and controlling a lot of her childhood (and it was pretty unhealthy esp with brenner and henry).

But it’s the s4 conflict where her insecurities really come to light. And the thing is milkvan doesn’t get better. In fact el feels like she isn’t loved, not the way she wants to be (yeah ik we take interviews with a grain of salt but I keep thinking about the way the actors specified "want") and it’s like the whole idea she had of their relationship crumbles.

And I can’t shake mike’s attire in the airport scene and how will’s sadness was emphasized/focused on in rink-o-mania. And it just feels like both mike and el are trying desperately to keep up normal appearances. That’s also solidified with El’s little disappointed glance to seeing from mike on the flowers, though she keeps lying throughout.

She feels a need to do that. Maybe by showing him how great she’s adjusting, maybe as a way to show she has things handled and prove herself to be “normal” especially since it’s something she’s struggling with in s4. It could also be linked with mike’s omission of “i love yous” in the letters which may have contributed to fueling that insecurity.

And when mike tells her that she’s a superhero it doesn’t help her feel better and it isn’t what she wants or needs to hear. This is literally her face after hearing it. She’s disappointed and if anything, more insecure about it.

And seeing that the note she leaves mike is signed from el, she is deliberately making a point of it. The whole thing is pretty break-up coded. She’s come to some sort of realization about their relationship.

El does care for mike, but since they don’t really have a solid foundation for attraction (especially since s2 mike makes his view on the love at first sight thing pretty clear with max) and el doesn’t have experience with it either, nor does she share a different bond with mike through their interests, ability to understand each other or in any way that indicates they understand each other for their own person.

And actually, mike is CONSTANTLY putting her on a pedestal. The s3 scene where he thinks everyone is using el for her powers and demanding too much of her? It pretty much contradicts itself since mike himself was the one who saw el as a hope, a means to find will in s1. And he’s amazed by her.

He canonically thinks he doesn’t deserve her and it makes me think of that scene with dustin at the beginning where mike makes some sort of comment about el saving the world and dustin says something about how mike is still failing spanish or something.

And I think it also kind of falls in line with mike’s own insecurities and possibly feelings of inferiority with el. He compares her to literal superman. And the thing is, they could’ve really went somewhere with this if they wanted. It could’ve been a conflict that, if it had been resolved well, could strengthen milkvan.

Though another thing is with everything mike has said about el in this context, it just further contradicts the monologue because a big part of what mike sees el for IS her powers. Does he care for her? Of course. But mike doesn’t understand el’s struggles with power and who she is without it and though she fascinates him nothing really goes to indicate that he understands her. Just as not much goes to indicate that she understands him.

And the fact that there have been so many outside factors influencing their relationship (ESPECIALLY lucas and will too in s4) and helping them through those problems rather then them facing the conflict themselves with each other is a pretty big indicator that milkvan just does not work on that level. El didn’t tell mike about being bullied because she feels alienated to the extent that she feels her boyfriend wouldn’t understand her and mike doesn’t tell el about his true feelings or insecurities ; he deflects instead, and blames others ("you can’t let these mouth-breathers ruin you. ruin us").

And instead he confides in his relationship insecurities to will. Which, honestly, if there was hope for milkvan, he and el would’ve atleast had a conversation where mike’s own feelings and insecurities were taken into account. And instead it’s will who tells him what he wants and needs to hear. Will reassures him of his place in the party. His importance. Why he is needed.

So yeah. El might be upset, yes, but I think it’s already been leading up to a break-up and nothing indicates that el has something to lose in terms of her long time happiness or independence from not dating mike. Will on the other hand, loves mike, as a person and as his best friend from when they were children. Mike who’s soft on will, mike who was constantly there for him when he was going through all sorts of shit and being possessed by the mindflayer. Mike who said that being friends with will is "the best thing" he’s ever done.

And not letting them have this when the foundation, dynamics, relationship is right there is just a very tragic storyline. So will suffers through hell, gets possessed, loses a part of his childhood just to never get it back because all his friends have moved past it and are more interested in girls, and so dnd, which has been a reminder of all their good, happy times before the upside down is just reduced to a childish fancy and on top of that he’s in love with his BEST FRIEND and not only used the painting he made for mike in the first place to further his relationship with his girlfriend, but also hurt himself in the process by "ripping the bandaid"

#byler #byler analysis #your main het couple having so many issues that it causes the audience to raise their eyebrows yeah no that really says something #and people actually blaming milkvan on poor writing and it very much could be unless…hmmm….byler endgame #and the fact that they’re both getting to the breakup stage it’s pretty mutual by s4…..the only thing kinda keeping it together is the pain #and the success of the monologue hasn’t been addressed so lets not forget will basically carrying their relationship in s4 lmao #mike’s monologue being prompted by “you’re the heart” #and him being under the impression that el said those things about him and feels all that about him #does she even like dnd??? #why do they hardly ever work through their relationship issues on their own #I’m just hoping for a mutual split or mike breaking it off #will is no second option thank you very much #will byers #I know what you are mike wheeler

[carmillatype]

Hey, you know that female character in that one thing?

You can make her the trans woman she was always meant to be

#she didnt address the audience directly and say she's cis #and if some fucking how she did then she could have been lying

[rendevok]

Every time one of you says “PHOENIX IN NOTHING BUT AN APRON?” I die a little inside because frankly that was not the goal, but unfortunately for me i forgot to color the pants different from the apron so now i’ve drawn phoenix cooking miles breakfast, ass out.

#this is one of those times where the audience transforms and elevates the art #i’m laughing about it too btw. like. a LOT. #for the record ​you’ll not likely see me drawing ass unless i know your address and phone number #you can take this as my official seal of approval of interpretation bc why not? give us a lil sugar nick

[fandomshatepeopleofcolor]

Do you know of any articles/posts discussing the fact that the majority of shows with a diverse cast are primarily police dramas? Brooklyn 99, The Rookie, L.A.’s Finest etc.

Hmmmmm so on the one hand the television industry is a bit of a hellscape but honestly I would question this assertion like yes the correlation is frustrating but just because police shows often feature actors of color, doesn’t mean that most shows featuring POC are police shows. Like okay off the top of my head, here are a few:

Harlem on Prime

2. Run The Burbs

3. Quantum Leap

4. Abbott Elementary

5. Interview With The Vampire

Honorable mention to NBC’s Found starring Shanola Hampton, imo the show took a little bit to find it’s footing and it’s only not a police show on a technicality but the core cast has done a solid job in their first season and they got picked up for a second season, so I’ll recommend it on this list

Anyone reading this feel free to send in an ask to shout out your favorite show featuring a majority non-white cast and ideally not a police show, always happy to boost 📨

• mod dyr

p.s. for the folks who enjoy/prefer YouTube video essays, Skip Intro has put out a ton of work re copaganda in entertainment https://youtube.com/@SkipIntroYT

#show recs #@atopcat fwiw i def remember some commentary articles addressing copaganda = poc casts when b99 was ending #but idk if there’s comprehensive / broad view articles yet about the police show = diverse cast correlation #also there is something to be said for venturing outside the mainstream but also the mainstream has options #like those first two might be niche ish but i think ? quantum leap and abbott and iwtv are all pretty solidly mainstream #but yeah like i said. always happy to boost this audience’s recs for shows or movies (esp featuring majority poc given the blog topic lol)

[reikunrei]

god dude literally like every 4 days i have a moment where i just get knocked upside the head by “we are definitely going to be getting a jonathan x steve team-up in s5″ like holy shit having jonathan be so fucking averse to steve still after all this time and steve actually growing up but also still being stuck on nance who is currently dating jonathan so there’s all this tension between them is totally going to lead to some DELICIOUS hesitant teamwork where they become besties by the end of it

like come on you just have steve go to the byers’ house in the middle of the night to apologize TO jonathan only to be distracted by The Plot in s1 and then NEVER bring it up again???? round it out babes let’s DO IT

i can just TASTE IT the way the two of them will somehow be forced to work together and jonathan is acting like a fucking cornered animal the whole time hackles raised one word responses the whole awkward shut in that he was in s1, and steve’s trying to lighten the mood and be buddies bc nancy really likes this guy and he’s been a badass every time their messes crossed paths but jonathan isn’t giving him Anything in return and he’s finally just like “fuck, dude, listen. i... i never apologized” and jonathan is like ?? and steve’s all “for... for that fight we had. i said some shit that i didn’t really mean. well, i meant it, but... not anymore... it wasn’t cool. i’m sorry” and jonathan is *bonk emoji*

#LIKE the fact that it's a pattern. like #s2 el won't look at max -> s3 them being besties #s3 robin thinking nancy is a priss -> s4 robin desperately trying to appease her and be her friend #s4 jonathan still being like 'what?? steve being in charge? pff right' -> s5 !!!??!??!????? #LET'S DO IT BOYS LET'S DO IT!!! #let's tag the target audience #stonathan #steve harrington #jonathan byers #stranger things #i say things #JUST!!!! give me more addressing jonathan's trust issues!!!! #you didnt show us him befriending argyle and letting him in so show us that w steve!!!!