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the reason obi wanted luke to kill darth vader is because.Obi knew that was the only way his anakin could come back.

he always loved anakin

Obi Wan wanted to die to save Anakin.

that was Obi Wans plan in the old comics.

I read that in the 80s comics .

I am 43--I am the oldest obikin shipper on tumblr

sorry my english is bad.

this is my first day on tumblr

Hi! Welcome to tumblr! I get why you like the above idea so much, there's a lot to explore in that and some really good pining material, however you interpret their relationship! For me, though, I'm with George Lucas on Obi-Wan's motivations with what he told Luke about why not killing Vader was problematic and why:

“The mission isn’t for Luke to go out and kill his father and get rid of him. The issue is, if he confronts his father again, he may, in defending himself, have to kill him, because his father will try to kill him. This is the state of affairs that Yoda should refer to.” --George Lucas, The Making of Return of the Jedi It's not that Obi-Wan and Yoda were trying to get Luke to kill Vader, but that he had to be ready for the possibility that Vader would force them into that scenario by trying to kill Luke and Luke's inability to accept that possibility could have ended very badly. I don't see either side as wrong here, that Luke's faith is correct and he achieved what seemed impossible, after all the times Vader had turned away from them before. Because Vader has had many, many chances to turn back for people that love him. For me, in a lot of ways, I see Obi-Wan's view of him as strengthening the Obi-Wan & Anakin relationship in the bigger picture, that the reason Anakin could accept Luke's faith in him was because they don't know each other as deeply, that theirs was a fresh start, that their relationship wasn't about the past, that Luke could teach Anakin compassion because you give up your own wants and desires when it comes to what your child needs from you, that allowed Anakin to be selfless once again. Their relationship was ultimately about being able to finally let go because you stopped caring about what happens to you in that relationship. I don't think he could ever do that with Obi-Wan, because there was too much there. He can't return for Obi-Wan because it cuts too deeply into him, that he would have to admit that he did those horrible things, that he would always look at Obi-Wan and see Obi-Wan looking back knowing him, down to the bone. The thought terrified Anakin because it was too much for him. With Luke, it's something new, it's purely about the future, that Anakin can let go of the past because that's not what Luke represents to him. Even when Obi-Wan is part of his future, because they came back together as Force Ghosts, even when Obi-Wan is part of his present, because Obi-Wan is there and he helps Anakin over to the other side (says George Lucas), he is also Anakin's past. He will always know Anakin far more than anyone else and Anakin can only accept that once he's let go of everything for Luke. I believe that Obi-Wan thinks Anakin could come back, just that he won't. And Obi-Wan's got a lot of really good reasons for that, because he does know Anakin on a level that Luke doesn't. But that's not what Anakin needed to come back, he needed someone who only saw good in him, not someone who remembered him as the murderer of children that they'd known. I don't believe that Obi-Wan thought Anakin would come back, because their history seemed too weighted against it and everything Anakin had done for twenty years indicated that he was refusing the choice. But that's what makes the relationship dynamic so much more engaging and fruitful for me, because it's far more complicated than anything straightforward, that there's too much between them that has such a rich history and impact on both their lives, that they have shaped each other through their feelings about each other every step of their lives. All the times they hurt each other, all the painful things they've witnessed between each other, all the suffering between them, that comes from because they loved each other so much. The fight in Revenge of the Sith on Mustafar is such an epic one precisely because they loved each other. Vader's cruelty towards Obi-Wan is so brutal because they loved each other. Vader is obsessed with Obi-Wan throughout the post-ROTS years and into the OT because they loved each other. And that's why I like their dynamic so much, because it's not pure or simple, it's complicated and painful and thorny, it's a long history and they cannot untangle themselves from each other, they will always be entwined with each others' lives in both the good and the bad. All the bad stuff isn't a road block for them, it is their relationship, it's what keeps them connected throughout all their lives, along with all the good there, too. And sometimes that means having to let go of hope for the other person, because the relationship passes the point of something that can be carried for a Jedi, that it becomes attachment, where the fear of letting go of that person drags you down, that’s what attachment is in Star Wars and to the Jedi, the fear = attachment, because that’s exactly what Obi-Wan is doing, he’s so unable to live without his grief for Anakin that it’s destroying him. His inability to believe that Anakin will come back isn’t just that they no longer care about each other, it’s because they’re too much to each other and that’s the angst I am here for.

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experiment-000 · 3 years

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My Top 10 Ships of 2020

It's been a weird year but I've seen other people doing this. Plus this year I've been way more into gen fics (love a bit of found family especially in clone wars and marvel) than anything shippy. So I genuinely don't know what imma put on here aside from two ships for sure. Sorry this post is super long idk how to do the below the cut thing and I've had this app for 5 years...

10) Viktor Nikiforov and Yuuri Katsuki - Yuri!!! On Ice

It was a real toss up between this, supercorp, kanera and wolfstar cos they're all very integral ships to my fan heart but this son because of the Yuri on Ice fandom's rebirth this year. I've never stopped shipping this, never stopped reading fanfic of them for any extended period of time, they're still my most bookmarked ship on ao3 (although I think now star wars - all media types may have overtaken them for fandom). They were one of the first things I watched where the queer ship I loved became canon and I can't wait for the film (and hopefully someday a season 2). Heck I even made my mum watch Yuri on Ice with me so I think that says it all.

9) Edelgard Von Hresvelg and female Byleth - Fire Emblem: Three Houses

My first fire emblem game was fates when I was like 14 (and finally gay awake lol). I was so disappointed that I had to be with a guy character because the only female option was kinda creepy and also I wouldn't get the character of kana. So when three houses came out I was so happy because finally there were beautiful incredible female characters my female byleth could romance (I'm so sorry mlm you deserved so much more than you got). I got the game as soon as it came out (had to search a lot of shops let me tell you) and started on black eagles. I was actually kinda disappointed back in 2019. I didn't like the explore the monastery bit (still find it kinda tedious) and the battle mechanics weren't quite the same as fates (no pairing up?! Aka my main battle technique for protecting the weaker units). So I got like 20 hours in and put it down. Came back to it in lockdown and finally finished it! I'm so proud of myself I virtually never finish games. And I fully fell in love with the useless lesbian edelgard in the process. When I started back playing in 2020 I was like eh I wish I'd picked a different character to romance (like shes an emperor that's morally very shady) but then the romance stuff started with edelgard and I fell the heck in love.

8) Cory Matthews and Shawn Hunter (and Topanga Lawrence) - Boy Meets World

Disney+ was released in the UK this year and I finally got the opportunity to watch boy meets world in its best quality (aka not on YouTube). I watched it back when I was like 12 or 13 and it's such a nostalgic show for me. Watching it again I still absolutely adore it (and my bi ass was low-key crushing on Shawn especially in chick like me - I'm 18 btw and I got so scared for a sec but rider strong was 18 when chick like me came out so it's fine woah). And of course now I see the possibilities of the beautiful Cory and Shawn relationship like they were so bromance it was basically romance and throw in topanga it's the perfect ot3 (but I'm also fine with just Cory and Shawn or just Cory and Topanga). Read some good fanfic for them this year. My favourite was one about Shawn stealing makeup and stuff and exploring gender (need more fics like this I'm biiii).

7) Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes - Marvel Cinematic Universe

I rewatched all the MCU films this year too. And got really into Peter parker whump and irondad. Plus my eternal obsession with identity and relationship reveals of course led me from Spiderman identity reveals (and found family cuteness) to stucky coming out. Especially when it involves the internet and social media. Not my favourite ship but it's been significant to my year due to the sheer amount of marvel stuff I've read.

6) Satine Kryze and Obi Wan Kenobi - Star Wars

I rewatched clone wars in prep for season 7 and wow Satine's death was sad and sudden. She first appeared in S2 E13 I think and just the sheer sexual tension of their bickering. "The sarcasm of a soldier. The delusion of a dreamer." Just ugnnhhh my bi ass can't take much more of this. And Anakin just sipping his wine in the background grinning. And I fully believe korkie is a Kenobi.

5) Commander Cody and Obi Wan Kenobi - Star Wars

I am very much an Obi wan multishipper. I don't really have a favourite but I fully believe he was with satine and Quinlan in his life. I don't think be would've actually done anything with Cody because of the whole superior officer thing. And this probably isn't even my favourite Obi wan ship - that honour probably goes to quinobi or obitine. However the most popular ships in the fandom are codywan, quiobi and obikin. No offence to anyone who ships these they're just personally not to my taste, but I can't stand quiobi, and obikin I find only slightly more tolerable and I think that's just because there's so much obikin content so if I like the concept of a fic that happens to be obikin I'll read it. I'm just not a fan of the mentor/student relationships. So I generally favoured the codywan fics when there was shipping involved meaning I read a lot of them this year. Needed that nice fix it content post season 7.

4) Zuko and Katara - Avatar: the Last Airbender

Again I am a multishipper I have nothing against zukka it's cute. But I'm a zutara shipper first and foremost because when I first watched avatar I was like 13 and denying my gayness and gayness in general so I shipped the straight things and the straight things only. Most of these ships I stopped shipping - dramione, spuffy, some my little pony ones which we don't talk about. Zutara stayed. (I have nothing against any of the things I used to ship I just stopped shipping them so much/shipped new things more). I've continuously shipped zutara since I first watched avatar even if I didn't necessarily spend that much time on it it has always been here as one of my favourite ships. It has such good fanfic I swear including my favourite ever fanfic from any fandom - love thy enemy. Plus like the black games (reread this for the millionth time this year), a delicate subterfuge (which I read for the first time this year and damn it's so good) and so many more. With the avatar resurgence this year I haven't actually rewatched avatar aside from my normal random episode every now and then when I feel like it. But there's been a lot of avatar on my dash from people I follow getting into it and people I followed for avatar returning so naturally I returned to the fandom and read quite a lot of fanfic. I also read just a lot of avatar gen fics which were great at the whole found family thing I've been so obsessed with this year.

3) Catra and Adora - She Ra and the Princesses of Power

Catradora is canon! They kissed! What more is there to say. Arguably they should've been top but I never shipped them that much since I was always very much a multishipper when it came to she ra so yes I was very happy it became canon because we actually won for once but also I've never read much fanfic for them etc. But they are very much a dynamic I love and watching she ra all again in prep for season 5 I really enjoyed the build up of their relationship. The other two only go above because Buffy is my favourite show ever and damn there's some good fuffy fanfic and Aphra and Tolvan is both fresh in my mind and star wars owns me. Would love some catradora fic recs btw if anyone has them tho.

2) Buffy Summers and Faith Lehane - Buffy the Vampire Slayer

I didn't realise it was last year that I got super into them but according to my ao3 bookmarks it was lol. 2020 I swear it's lasted an eternity. I got into them about a month before lockdown (which feels like another lifetime). I've loved Buffy since I first watched it when I was 13. It's arguably still my favourite TV show. I've been through a lot of ships for Buffy - bangel to spuffy and now fuffy. I still think angel and her were a beautiful ship back in season 2 and especially in the angel episode I will remember you. But faith and Buffy had so much chemistry in season 3 - she would've been a fresh start for Buffy and the amount of fix it fics I read I swear. My favourite has to be one where they met in LA during Anne and how that changed everything feat Buffy's internal homophobia.

1) Cheili Lona Aphra and Magna Tolvan - Star Wars

I read Darth Vader (2015) and Doctor Aphra (2016) for the first time at the end of 2020 (got a comic subscription which has served me very well already I've nearly finished the star wars canon comics). Just to see canon queer ladies in star wars was so magical for me as a queer lady. I didn't think star wars would be so overt yet as to have a queer kiss in canon (even if it's in the comics) and especially not with the main character of arguably their main comic series. Now we just gotta hope that we'll get it in live action someday soon. They weren't the ship I consumed the most content of in 2020 but they were the highlight of my 2020 because star wars did that and I finally found out about it

Honourable mentions: Vivian and Elle - Legally Blonde, Candace and Vanessa - Phineas and Ferb, Stevie and Alex - Wizards of Waverly Place, Xander and Spike - Buffy the Vampire Slayer (I actually don't ship this but damn some authors are good - this was the ship that made me realise I don't need to like a ship if the author is good enough to write it well), Eli Vanto and Mitth'raw'nuruodo - Star Wars (started reading the books last year but finished this year and only started with fanfic this year), Villanelle and Eve - Killing Eve, Kanan and Hera - Star Wars, Barriss and Ahsoka - Star Wars, Remus and Sirius - Harry Potter, Kara and Lena - Supergirl (let's hope this becomes canon next year!) (Those last four are ones I've shipped forever some of my og ships but nothing particularly big has happened for me this year with them so)

I got Disney+ this year so rewatched a fair few things from my youth and though hey my obsession with that character may have been a little gay.

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