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harmonic-psyche · 6 years

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The Finalysis: @askgoopi and @askthewaywardaliens

Hey, I am back with more characters for The Finalysis™! Below, I analyze the characters from @ecstaticshli‘s EarthUnBound continuity on @askgoopi and CogDis sister blog on @askthewaywardaliens. Both blogs are still continuing their stories. While technically only @askgoopi is set in the alternate timeline called “EarthUnBound,” I am using that title for both blogs here because of their shared author/artist and characters and because is sounds Really Friggin Cool.

I am still experimenting with the visuals for these Finalysis posts, and I wanted to try something a bit less bare than in my Finalysis post for @askgiegueandcrew. Hopefully the image is not too crowded. Also, I swear that the “Goopi vs. J” fight in the middle of the picture was unintentional at first — but then I realized that it reflects how they would probably react upon meeting. oh geez, now i want to see them meet and see how many milliseconds it takes for them to start fighting

With that said, on to the character analyses!

Blue Starman ("Stupid," or "Blu"): Seems like an ISFJ.

This nervous-looking "[s]cared nerd Starman" is much more easily frightened than his fellow Starmen, which suggests inferior Ne — especially considering that he regrets being a coward, his "personality" is "Chicken," and he has a bad habit of second-guessing himself. Even in his military decisions, he shows caution. As a "pushover," Blu lacks the toughness of auxiliary Te, implying Fe instead. Also, seeing Giegue happy would make Blu happiest, showing Fe's desire to make others happy. While these facts suggest ISFJ, I have not seen enough of him to feel confident about my typing.

Giegue ("Goopi"): Probably ESTP, maybe ESTJ.

Canon Giegue is ISTJ, but "Goopi" here appears much more impulsive and aggressive. For example, his "bad habits" include "attacking others for seemingly no reason." While canon Giegue is not friendly, before the madness set in he tended to stay calm unless provoked or carrying out a cruel plan. In contrast, Goopi takes a sadistic pleasure in attacking others just for the sake of killing them. He once broke a promise with Static simply because he wanted to kill her after torturing her. Canon Giegue also uses a much more detached and clinical tone than Goopi, who loves using crude, petty insults so much that he literally named all of his Starmen after them. That degrading, crude humor is most common among ESTP types, and notably lacking from Giegue in canon or on @askgiegueandcrew. In canon, Giegue only acts to follow his plan(s) or when he loses control of himself. On the other hand, Goopi often acts merely for pleasure without a plan or a reason: "I don't need much of a reason," "I did what I did because I wanted to." These show far more impulsive and hedonistic behavior, implying Se rather than Si.

At first, I was unsure if I could justifiably type Goopi differently from canon Giegue. Since they are from different universes, though, they are different characters: Goopi is "a completely different Giegue" (PMs with @ecstaticshli 2018-06-22).

J the Shadow: Definitely ISTJ.

Cautious, tough, and stoic to the core, J is an archetypal ISTJ. As an introvert who is still working on acting social, he prefers to avoid the spotlight. Si-dominance is evident in his (over?)protective unwavering loyalty to Vivi, since he considers himself her personal "bodyguard" (a.k.a. "guard dog" — compare the running joke about Si-dominant Pia the loyal dog). J does not hesitate to intimidate, threaten, or attack others to prove it when he thinks that they threaten Vivi. He shows no F-type squeamishness. While he "[t]ends to not be very friendly to others ... if he trusts someone he will be loyal and do his best to protect them," showing Si loyalty without Fe friendliness.

Te over Fi appears in his tough attitude, blunt tone, resent for receiving others' pity, "aggressive demeanor," and tendency to be embarrassed by emotional and cutesy situations — which, naturally, happen all the time around Vivi. When feeling insecure, he responds with aggression. As he has shown repeatedly, he hates being called adorable despite the obvious fact that he totally is adorable. In his own words, "It ain’t exactly easy for me to, uh, open up to others." Auxiliary Te's coldness and inferior Ne's paranoia make him distrust others by default ("We don’t know these people! I can’t trust them!"). While this can cause tension when he first meets other characters, it does help him protect those he cares about, especially Vivi. He also shows inferior Ne when he is totally thrown off by strange new perspectives, like whether he qualifies as an "insectoid."

Note also that, since "J is based on a later version of Giegue from EarthUnbound," it makes sense that J and Giegue would have identical personality types. Again, typing by analogy is unreliable, but in this case it sits on a huge pile of more-than-sufficient other evidence.

Nebula: Seems like an ISFJ.

This "[c]autious noodle" is "[c]alm, for the most part," but "[t]ends to panic when things go horribly wrong," making "other people assume ... [that s]he's a worrywart." Those show inferior Ne, and a lack of Te's decisiveness. Even though Nebula made Static act serious (a minor miracle) when Goopi attacked, came up with a plan, and pointed out that other mooks needed help escaping, she froze up and did not volunteer to help them when Static asked. These show her calm, serious planning skills (Si) and desire to help others (Fe) without any impulsivity (Ne). Nebula corrects others about scientific details even in crisis situations, showing that she is a stickler for detail (Si). Also, she probably would not dare kill anyone, showing what I call "F-type squeamishness." I do not have all that much confidence in typing Nebula, though. I have only seen her in a crisis situation, in which characters often act unusually compared to their normal personality.

Rac: Seems like an IN__.

Nebula's boyfriend is a "really smart," "nerdy noodle" who "[t]ends to be skittish and awkward at times." Being skittish and awkward suggests introversion. While there is only a weak correlation between intelligence and MBTI (specifically, iNtuition), there is a strong correlation between nerdiness and being an IN__ type.[citation not needed] Rac’s "fears" include "[s]paghettification" and "black holes in general," which are an unusually abstract subject to fear, suggesting N. His "bad habits" include "[s]econd guessing himself," showing a lack of confidence. As a research supervisor, though, he possesses a strong scientific curiosity and enough leadership skills to run his lab. Having never seen Rac's behavior, I cannot type him precisely. Any of the IN__ types could fit this description.

Starman Jr. ("Ugly," or "Ly"): Definitely ESFP.

Ly's "[s]assy and snarky" attitude, chill demeanor, and casual slang-based speaking style point to Se-dominance . So too does her low patience and risk-taking behavior, like when she threw a secret party which accidentally got Static captured. Still, she had good intentions: "I just wanted to do something nice for my friend." Still, Ly's impulsivity and good intentions do not always end poorly. In fact, they may be the only reason that Vivi is still alive.

When Ly found Vivi on a deserted planet, Ly insisted on taking Vivi aboard to heal her. Another Starman asked how they would handle Giegue's reaction, and Ly replied that "I'll figure that out when we get to that point." In other words, she had no plan (low Ni and Te), acting only on impulse (high Se and Fi). When Javik Goopi tried to throw Vivi out the airlock, Ly saved her life by standing up to Goopi, literally annoying him into stopping. It takes nearly-reckless courage to stand up to someone so powerful and unstable. Beyond that, the intentional use of annoyance for persuasion shows Fi's determination and willingness to embarrass everyone involved (compare Vivek the ENFP), whereas Fe-users would likely melt from the secondhand cringe.

Like Static's, Ly's individualist passion (auxiliary Fi) is accomplished through a facade of toughness (tertiary Te). After all, she is "practically the only one who can pretty much talk trash to Goopi’s face and not be killed for it." Her high Fi often causes righteous indignation. Combined with her tough demeanor, this makes her take no BS from anons ("Screw you! Nobody asked for your two cents, bub") who try to help Goopi or from inexplicably hostile mooks. Those show no Fe politeness, even though Fi makes Ly "willing to sacrifice [her] safety" for her friends' at the drop of a hat because of how much she cares about them.

Unlike Static, Ly lacks the eccentric cleverness of Ne — but she makes up for it with Se's down-to-earth decisiveness. Also, contrast their speaking styles: Ly's tends to have more "shortcuts," like dropping letters from the front ("worried 'bout," "lost track of 'em,") or end of words ("somethin' to," "damper on everythin'," "comin' up"). Dropping the -g from the end of words shows informality. Also, a lot of Ly's slang comes from slurred speech ("wanna," "gotta," "gonna," "outta") — and "ain't." Those all shorten words to make them more convenient, but also sound "unrefined," for lack of a better less pretentious word. At least among CogDis OCs, that style is a dead giveaway for Se-dominance (compare Boson, Juice, Rigby, and Szortski). Sensors are more likely to view language only as a tool, making them more straightforward. In contrast, iNtuitors also like to play with it, which is why — unlike Ly — Static really, really loves puns.

Static: Definitely ENFP.

See full analysis for details. also i totally would've called that this "noodle" is a hugger. wait now i want to hug her :S

Vivineeh ("Vivi"): Probably ISFJ, maybe INFP.

I have tried to figure out which of those two types this "adorable" and "precious" (seriously, she is absurdly cute) noodle is for sooo long! Either typing could explain that she is "timid," "[w]ill cry at just about anything," and "super sensitive," since those come generally from I_F_. Likewise, either typing could explain that she "likes [b]eing kind, ... being around children, ... hugs, soft and/or fluffy things, [and] anything she finds cute." Sentimentality, enjoyment of receiving affection, and compassion can suggest high Fi or high Fe.

The evidence that I have seen barely tips the scales towards ISFJ. Vivi "always tries to be super nice and polite," because "she dislikes making others feel bad," and she loves making friends. Wanting everyone to be happy is generally a trait of high Fe-users, as is indiscriminate positivity — especially politeness, which shows an intuitive submission to social norms. Fi is typically less prone to share its feelings, more selective about them, and defiant of social norms like politeness. Finally, the "fearful" Vivi frequently worries and is easily scared/offended by dark humor, suggesting low Ne. I have already mentioned why inferior Ne causes worrying, and dark humor is appreciated by high Ne-users (compare Ano and Static) but offends Si's often-purist sensibilities. Finally, unlike other CogDis-related IN_Ps, Vivi does not show absentminded or eccentric behavior (contrast Keter, Loris, Niiue, and Origen).

Now consider the evidence for INFP. One might think that Vivi's social awkwardness suggests dominant Fi, because Fe is more socially adept. Yet ISFJs can often be socially awkward too, especially when caused by inferior Ne caution (compare Yi the ISFJ "just being awkward"). The contrast between Vivi's personality and J's also makes her seem like an INFP, because it seems unlikely that they share the same dominant function. Typing by analogy is weak evidence, though, and different extraverted-judging functions (Te vs. Fe) can cause a huge difference in demeanor. At first I though Vivi did not show Si-dominance because I had not seen her show its common (and admittedly stereotypical) traits like obedience to authority or effective detailed memory, but she shows both (PMs with @ecstaticshli 2018-06-22). While many parts of her culture "sicken and unnerve" her, as one would expect more from a Fi- or Ni-dominant repulsed at their society, she inherited most of her beliefs from her caretaker Marair. Like most ISFJs, most of her values are inherited from her family.

I am not entirely confident in an ISFJ typing, though. Vivi "likes ... trying new things, learning, [and] visiting new planets," which suggests high Ne. While Si-dominants can love learning, especially if it involves fact-collecting (compare Ore), they generally do not like trying new things. I cannot explain why Vivi likes trying new things, such as visiting new planets, using an ISFJ typing. In fact, she can be downright "adventurous" if she does not feel threatened (PMs 06-22). Similarly, Vivi's "hopeless romantic" idealism is more common among daydreaming INFPs than concrete ISFJs. As a Geik, Vivi seems more like an ISFJ, but as a Gieeg, she seems more like an INFP — but since they are the same character (PMs 06-22), I cannot type them differently.

Alright, that concludes my analysis of @askgoopi and @askthewaywardaliens! Unless I forgot any characters. I considered including some of the other Starmen who serve under Goopi, and probably ought to add the Last Starman featured in recent posts — especially since he may have a type very rare to CogDis (canon and fan-) characters. But since most of them appear almost exclusively in the background, have minimal dialogue, and lack Charahub entries, I realized that I would not have enough material to make a guess at their personality types.

I am unsure whose characters I will analyze next. Hopefully it will take less time to post the next part of Finalysis. Until then, goodnight!

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ruler-of-scientists · 5 years

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[[ As for another question, I've always wondered about what inspired you to create comdis in the first place! What are its 'origins' so to speak? ]]

(( Well, before comdis became known as comdis, the story originated as a simple ‘what-if’ offshoot of Mother 1 as to what would happen if Giegue had in fact won and not only defeated but killed Ninten at the end of the story. It started gaining a connection to Cognitive Dissonance as Niiue was brought into the story but as time went on it slowly became its own thing. The blog went through several reboots and rewrites, including a twenty-year timeskip in an attempt to start afresh after a long break had been taken by me from the fandom, but it wasn’t until i started RPing over discord that the verse and characters within it truly began to flesh out a fairly unique identity, at least in my opinion.

I was inspired by the likes of @askgoopi (which was the first Mother blog I had ever discovered) and @askgiegueandcrew (funny story, I discovered the older version of that blog first long before I was aware of a present-day and on-running reboot), on top of countless others to create something of my own, and I suppose the offshoot idea was my attempt at trying something different from what had been seen so far. Cogdis was still fresh on my mind however when I made the blog so elements of the game inevitably made its way in. The actual term of ‘comdis’ originates from “complete dissonance,”, a term I coined as a joke for the fact that my blog’s story and setting had drifted so far from its inspirational roots but overtime it became a term used to name the verse itself.

The blog- this one- as it exists in the present day is my means of presenting what had been developed on Discord to the public, as Discord isn’t really the best medium to be telling a story of this scale. That said, those’re the origins of comdis as a whole! ))

#comdis #complete dissonance #ask #ask the mun #anearthstruckalien

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anafishart · 7 years

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@askgoopi

These two, though... they’re def different sides of a coin.

#Mother 1 #Giegue #Vivi #Friend OC #picture

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yukimare · 9 years

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Ya know... considering how a good ol’ someone drew this double minded girl, I think I should start this account up by posting the reference and her description.

This right here is Anyrna, a 95 year old Geik ( Anocra / @ecstaticshli's fan-made species in the story) who has... more then a few mental issues... namely a VERY severe case of Dissociative identity disorder that results in her seeming to have two different self-aware personalities inside a single body. The personalities are so well built (Thanks to gel malnurishment at a young age, and then ending up being magnified to a excessive level by some elite experimentation) that they are always active and persistently fight to obtain control over the vessel they reside in.

Her dominate personality is one that is seemingly alien to the Geiks : A excessively sweet, tender, kind, and charitable heart who tries her best to make everything end peacefully, happily, and without a fight or effort to control getting involved; A angel among her normally cruel species... and then you get her other personality (Which, when active, has the eyes turn red, and tends to start calling itself by it's own name, 'Zoqena', until 'Anyrna' takes back control), who is exceedingly savage, ruthless, aggressive (Beyond that of a normal geik), selfish, and in some cases... bloodthirsty; The exact opposite of what the good side is. For her, it's a constant struggle between her two personalities as they strive for the right to pilot the geik body that they share, and sometimes when they both work up enough power to fight each other, this results in a geik who seems to have completely lost it and starts destroying everything while both voices argue with each other... (Psychic dragon taring you apart while it's crying for her other self to stop much?) Thankfully, Anyrna is, again, the dominate personality, and thus the one who will be most often seen, making most of the decisions, and most sustained for the longest unconflicted duration... and she is able to feel when her other self is clawing it's way up, and in these cases, she often flees into a isolated area where she cannot do much damage... or a place where the damage will be helpful, though she does not always make it... and very rarely, 'Zoqena' turns around and comes back... but this situation is very rare, and has in fact only happened once... Occasionally however (But almost never on the Geik homeworld, Draccos... almost), Anyrna may deliberately let Zoqena out to deal with a nasty situation; while Anyrna IS the one who is out 80% of the time, Zoqena is the more adept fighter, and she can be quiet a challenge to incapacitate or evade... compared to Anyrna, who is very passive to the point of not wishing harm to a fly, and poses a exceedingly minimal threat to any who would challenge her. Once the threat is gone, however, the good side of her will often push to (And often succeed) take back control and return to normal. Her dominate personality, to add, is sided with the Fight for Peace... but her bad side is not really affiliated with any group; it's hostile to both sides... though she has done a decent job at hiding this issue, and it's unknown if this side of her is well known of yet to cause concern. One last thing to note : When her dominate personality is present and she is idle or getting into a protective stance (or someone crossing the taboo boundary), she may wrap her tail around herself. This trait is not seen when Zoqena is in control.

For more info and the rest of her infomation, here is her reference on DeviantArt : http://yukimare.deviantart.com/art/Anyrna-and-Zoqena-557235104

#askgoopi #earthunbound #draccos geiks #ecstaticshli #Anyrna-Zoqena

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gymleadercheren · 9 years

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belated b-day gift for my BEST BROMIDE ASHLI

enjoy this goop with mewtwo-ish colors <33

#ecstaticshli #askgoopi #giegue #earthbound #mother

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hedgielovesdrawing-blog · 9 years

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Here's my half of the Art Trade with Sugaroala!

I hope you like it, friend! :)

#sugaroala #askgoopi #static #giegue #art trade #hegart #idk where she's hidin'#just in some storage room i guess??

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askgoopi · 6 years

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Ly: There ya go, Vivi...! Now, give it your best shot...!

Vivi: ...

Vivi: (Ly certainly has a lot of faith I can do something... I am not sure what this new PSI can do as far as helping. It is... not even an attack or of any support in battle. It just feels calming. What can that do against this last starman?)

Vivi: (Besides... Static is...)

Vivi: (Static is...)

Static: H̸̥̝̗͍͍̆͒̎̚̕͝e̵̬̬̮̊̿͂̅̚e̶̲͚͉̪̱͖͌͂͗̿̆e̷̢̨̛̝͚̺̺̓́̅e̴̤̬̙̾̔̕ẹ̶͎͈̆̈́̊̈́e̷̯͕̮͠e̶̡̝̳͓̎́͋̒͘h̸̘̓͆͊e̷̼̺̯̣̓̈́̇ͅh̸̹̏e̸̯͇͚̜͌̋̋̒̈́͜h̸̝̱͈͒̂́e̴̙̜̝͇͛̿͒̈́̈́͝h̷̺͍͖̻̍̈́͜ḙ̶̱̦̘̠͊̀̒͝h̷̘̲̓e̸͇̘̭͔͉͍͋h̷̤͚̄ē̸̝̼̤͙̓̀͑̈́ͅh̸̡̜͖͓̟͛̔̇e̵̲̭̊̒͝h̶̫̏͝ę̸̼͉̘̰̍͒h̵̦͖͔̘̤͈͗̒̿ȩ̷̘̗̉̚h̵̖͕̙͑̃͒̈́̈!̸̲͖͚̉͝

Vivi: !!! (She is taking this too far...!)

#askgoopi #EarthUnbound #ask blog #starmen #starman jr.#Last Starman #vivineeh #static mook #plot post #chrono #eye strain ///#long post//#giequeue #lifeup

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sugaroala-blog · 9 years

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modhedgermins

Uh yeah. Heg, lauren made me draw this for you. :V

i'm not sorry for the things I choose to be

#askgoopi #vivineeh #goopi #she thought it was mean of me to hide the fact that i've actually shipped them before you even knew about vivi #you like this ship right? okay good #modhedgermins #my original plans for the blog tho don't involve this ship because that would be silly #...unless other people actually like it??? but i doubt it hahhhaaahhhh....#sugaroala art

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harmonic-psyche · 6 years

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New Finalysis post!

Hi! I posted my analysis of @askgoopi and @askthewaywardaliens a few minutes ago. Since it is filled to the brim with links, it probably will not appear in any searches/etc. So, I decided to announce it by posting this quick message without any links.

If you are interested, you can check out the post on my blog!

#cogdis #cognitive dissonance #askgoopi #askthewaywardaliens #earthunbound #mbti analysis #personality analysis #the finalysis #original content #static mook #vivineeh #j the shadow #goopi

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askgoopi · 6 years

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[Vivi collapsed from the pain!]

Ly: OH NO! VIVI!!!

[Ly collapsed from the pain!]

#askgoopi #EarthUnbound #ask blog #starmen #starman jr.#Last Starman #vivineeh #static mook #plot post #chrono #long post//#pk beam #((static is friggin pissed))#eye strain ///#((also hi. I realized I hadn't updated this blog at all either and I had to fix that))

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askgoopi · 6 years

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[Static entered the battle!]

#askgoopi #EarthUnbound #ask blog #starmen #Last Starman #static mook #plot post #chrono #giequeue

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harmonic-psyche · 6 years

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I am officially posting The Finalysis of CogDis characters!

Hi again!

Last October, I shared my plan to post a grand finale officially ending my MBTI analysis project. Hopefully a fair amount of y'all are still here since then, because it appears that the time has come.

I realized that I probably would not finish a full 100 CogDis-related MBTI character analyses, so I decided to post what I have. This is partially due to schoolwork, and partially due to my interests shifting from CogDis (back) to MLP:FiM. After this I will probably drop back in to the CogDis Tumblr community on occasion, but I think this will be my last fan-content contribution. I might post a feelsy 'farewell' post later. I also may post some meta-comments about the project, namely about the information I collected and my favorite parts of examining so many CogDis-related characters’ stories.

In the upcoming posts, I give the personality types of roughly 75 CogDis-related characters. For most of them, though, I am not entirely sure which type is correct. I gave each my best guess, explaining the reasons for each type and for my confidence in each. Unfortunately, I could not even give a guess for some of the characters because I could not find enough information about them.

Note that, for practical purposes, I try to analyze each character in the context of their own continuity — be it canon, fanon, AU, or something else entirely. To analyze any character, I assume that their continuity is legitimate. As another note, there were many characters that I fully planned on analyzing but never got around to it — including characters that I really like and had wanted to analyze.

I planned to include all of the characters I analyzed from each blog in this post. However, apparently Tumblr has a maximum of 100 text blocks per post. So, I decided to make one post for each blog. Once I have finished them, I might go back and edit this post to include links to each.

My first Finalysis post analyzes the characters from @askgiegueandcrew / @bunchofaliens. I am not sure which blog I will post next. The good news is that I have a pretty good start and am probably almost finished analyzing at least a few characters from each of the following blogs:

@ambrosiosanswers,

@apollocaelum / @astros-adventures,

@askgoopi / @askthewaywardaliens (Done!),

@asktheapplechasers and CogDis canon in general,

@askthedreadnoughtcrew (Done!),

@asktheorbitcafe-blog,

@psionicsiblinghood / Marie’s blog (formerly @commandermarie but I forgot the new URL whoops),

@extranuts‘s OCs (formerly @askgilliga),

@mercenaryaliens,

@only-our-regrets / @ruler-of-scientists and the Complete Dissonance continuity in general (Done!), and

@take-a-melody.

Likewise for the single characters from their eponymous blogs @sparkle-fly and @askzannie. I hope y’all don’t mind the mass-tagging, but I do want to make sure that I cover all blogs with CogDis characters. Please let me know if I forgot any!

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