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Unspoken tension ahead of Charlie Work, a wound left open in Family Fight
The Production Order (the order in which the episodes are written) always seems of some value to me in Sunny, but 10 I find especially substantial. With half of the scripts of the season written by RCG, 4 are back-to-back (with their 5th one, Psycho Pete, being 2nd in order).
The run begins after The Gang Spies like U.S. Going off that into Charlie Work, as opposed to into that off Charlie Work, paints a very different narrative for the timeline.
We leave the reveal that Mac and Dennis are jerking off together into an episode that starts with high tension between Mac and Dennis. Dennis is frustrated that Mac isn't being direct, won't look him in the eyes, he's avoidant, timid. That's interesting, because Mac isn't usually any of those things, he's direct and abrupt and loud. Off 9, fully establishing Mac is gay, juxtaposing his closeted behaviour to Country Mac's openness, 10 focuses hard on the fact that Mac's confidence is continually battered as he refuses to step out of the closet. The Gang is tired of it, but Dennis is frustrated. His words maybe cut even deeper than the scratch, "Come to me like a man. Talk about being tough all the time, can't even look me in the eyes."
We leave CW and go into Family Fight, written right after, also by RCG. This episode has big focus on Dennis' obsession with public perception of himself, and the Gang. Though he can initially handle masking his demeanor, his tone of voice, what he can't mask are his words. He's smiling, he's 'joking', but there's deep truth in what he’s saying. He's frustrated, though his frustration in the moment is intended for Frank, Mac feels it directed at him. There's a fresh wound between them, because Mac fully understands what his feelings for Dennis are now, and that’s irreparably shifted their dynamic.
Misses the Boat is the last RCG-written episode of the season. From Charlie Work, where we’re kinda first faced with the fact that Mac is now overly-concerned with how Dennis perceives him, to Family Fight, where Dennis' masks slip completely and he has a public breakdown, they both veer hard to straighten themselves. Mac, very quite literally, goes straight, and Dennis resolves that he needs to cut ties to get back to being ‘cool’, he’s going to be a cool guy who has a cool car and hangs out with a babe and is cool.
But what we learn in Misses the Boat is that how they think the world views them, or should view them based on how they believe they present, isn’t who they are. They can’t actually function well in these situations. Dennis, untethered, somehow can’t control his rage as well as he can when he *is tethered* to the Gang. Mac, well, he isn’t straight, and he realises pretending to be into women is miserable.
Dennis gives him the offer: Do you want to go back? (To not addressing it, to a standstill.) And Mac quickly, excitedly takes it. Looping back to where they are in Charlie Work, back to where they settle for too long: Mac, absorbed in himself, clawing for approval from Dennis, and Dennis lashing out, tired of telling Mac what to do.
And I think this is why I love 10 more than anything, it finally addresses the issue the audience knows. With Charlie, Dee, and Frank, too. They’re going nowhere, spiraling in circles because they refuse to address the roots of their issues, and Misses the Boat makes them, themselves, fully aware of that fact. They’re miserable together, but they’re worse off alone. And they go into 11 and beyond knowing this, and all kind of resenting each other for it, until 14. Where they acknowledge it again, and decide they’re going to keep playing the game even though it’s set.
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yuukei-yikes · 1 year
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any thoughts on remind blue?
currently, it is my favorite kagepro song (this changes like every week but i digress...) and i really want to make a pv for it but i lowkey have no idea where to start
your analysis/ramblings on things is really interesting to read and see, so also just wanted to let you know that i love all the content you post!! :D
I LOV remind blue. like every kagepro song makes me want to rip my face off ♥️♥️♥️ but this one is one of those that make me feel so strongly that i cant listen to it ♥️♥️♥️ cuz i do that btw. i cannot listen to kagepro songs without preparing myself emotionally and it has to be when i am alone in my room. i could never listen to them in public. that'd be weird. im drawing and suddenly a kagepro song comes on in my playlist and im like this is so fucked up who put this here (<- i did)
songs like summertime record, lost day hour, remind blue and ayanos theory of happiness specifically i basically never listen to because it causes something in me both mentally and physically. im normal though.
TOTALLY support the idea to make a pv!!! i wouldn't know how to start either tbh💔 who would u make it be sung by?? like the song is so good but for the lyrics im like meh like str is already a thing. idk it sorta has the same vibe. its like summertime record and lost day hour's lyrics had a little baby together. which is why i always liked to interpret it as a haruka song but fuck it ig its shintaro's.
i also liked the idea of it being seto's or hibiya's. i think they'd deserve a song like this, especially hibiya!! tho for hibiya the whole "adult" thing is different LOL and even seto, he's just 17... ive always loved haruka being the punchbag for the "im an adult wtf" feeling because he goes from living his whole life thinking he will die and then he doesn't. or well he DOES die but then comes back, and suddenly he finds himself with his whole life ahead. like haruka and his early 20s crisis abt i did NOT think id be alive this long and now i gotta deal with everything those feelings bring me but at the same time i have to pay rent and worry abt what to make for dinner soooo erm fine ig. that's also what i think lost day hour is about, i know jin describes it more like a song abt old friends but girl idk it rly only has a couple lines abt that as opposed to all the rest of the song... erm. what was i talking about again.
i just think it was rly funny how we were all like ok remind blue uses "boku" so it's seto kano hibiya or haruka (or konoha). and then jin was like hehe. shintaro♥️ SHINTARO DOESNT EVEN USE BOKU whatever im pretty sure he also said it can fit anyone and its more a general mekakushi dan song. but tbh so is summertime record sooooo. sorry im sidetracking a lot
i dont particularly care for remind blue so much (LIKE THE SONG SLAPS im still talking about lyrics) bc it's very heavy on the shit abt like growing distant and stuff sortof??? like kagepros ending/str is implied to have the mekadan not grow apart but kinda do their own thing while still meeting to hang out, bc kagepro is also about growing up and with growing up comes maybe growing distant from these friends you love, but they will always be important and one of a kind in ur life and when u meet its like time hasnt rly passed between you. not to mention the whole thing about combining eyes and how all the snakes will always end up gathering by the queen no matter what, meaning the dan will always be bound to make their ways back to each other no matter what, and are connected to one another by the literal narrative that theyre all actually sort of aware of a little bit (they always refer to their tragedy as a "story"..kagepro is a little meta lol). and like that's all so beautiful but also fuck it. they all meet for pizza nights every week. erm. the passage of time am i right
ALSO TY FOR READING MY POSTS:///3 I LOVE KAGEROU PROJECT A NORMAL AMOUNT AND IM A NORMAL PERSON
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uniquezombiedestiny · 2 years
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🔊+ jailor town of salem
this was like a pleasant surprise me ngl, didnt expect tos
i tend not to think of the tos like skins/roles as characters much but i do sometimes soo yeah. this is based a bit off ingame experience since most jailors i meet are pretty chill (+ being jailor is so scary for me lmao. i cant deciiiiide)
i think the jailor is a pretty average townie, just a calm rational guy trying to lead the town bc he cares about them. being the jailor though is a pretty big responsibility - you lead the town, you decide who lives and dies, whos good and evil. it can be pretty scary with that much power, especially if you have noone to make sure youre making the right decision (and even then, they could be lying).
on the flipside though jailors still just a townie. he can die just like everyone else... still an average guy behind everything. but ig he doesnt really have the time to be that anymore. you lead town at day and jail people and review evidence at night, theres just no time to not be The Jailor(tm)
this song also gives me like. the vibes of simply being jailed, especially as a like. 1v1 at the end of a game as maf. makes me remember an amb game i had where i wound up dying that way. this song is for the neutral ending after all, and it does feel like reaching... an end. not a good or a bad one - just one of many (even if the game says you lost lol)
^ bc ig in a.. meta way? it all goes by so fast. ingame weeks go by in like 30 min. whole towns/worlds are made and unmade and remade over and over. after being so many people/roles in such short time you realize theyre all kind of the same
in the end its kinda just... the same. the guilt of killing a townie (both for thr jailor and you, playing as the jailor) will be wiped away with everything else and the next game will begin. i dont know how to put it into words but like. the song definitely describes it
i dont really know how the characters like. view that or how much they know tho. whether theyre aware of how tos 'works' or not (with worlds being un- and remade and stuff), whether they remember it or not
this kinda ended up being about the game itself and how i see it, but i still think it fits the jailor too lol.
also music stuff. i think the high pitched notes, especially in the beginning and like. heavy part of the song is like a reminder that the jailors just an average townie like the rest of them. with the regular notes being the whole jailor.. thing ig. and the only high notes part after that is like.. remembering that hes just like everyone else (but he cant really show that yknow?). and then it descends into the lower/heavier piano part as hes like 'were really all the same under it all huh'. and that this is kinda getting to him a little, that he cant really make these decisions and shit alone.... but he has to. evils are still around and they could be anybody
sooooo yeah disorganized tos rambling 👍 enjoy anon
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zanguntsu · 2 years
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i recently decided to start playing brave souls but there's a lot going on and it's scary. any tips?
ye i can offer some tips << certified gamer
-maxing out your characters is the best way to get orbs. for 4 stars its lvl 75 i believe for 35 orbs for 5 star characters its level 100 for 50 orbs for 6 star characters its lvl 150 for 75 orbs. thats a whole 125 orbs for one 5 star pull.
-honestly no pressure to lvl 200 your 6 star character unless u really want to/like the character a lot. its much better to conserve resources imo. in fact you dont even have to fully max out a 6 star character just lvl to 150 and fill out the soul tree if your gonna use it. i got a few unfinished soul trees on level 150s and i simply do not care
-the only stats that actually matter on characters are spirit pressure (purple) and attack (red). sp is strong attacks and specials while attack is the big attack button. the best builds are maxing out the highest stat as much as you can. its something a lot of people dont do and bbs combat is all about maxing out damage output. no one gives a fuck about defense stamina and focus.
-killers are very important which gives you additional damage against character affiliations (like ichigo being a soul reaper). and are only available on 6 stars attributes are like pokemon types and honestly its just if u know the pokemon types for fire water grass just apply it to the colors and know that purple and yellow both are effective against each other. attributes are also decently important because it can also affect the damage you deal and i believe also affects damage you are dealt
-events are good to grind through mindlessly like you get a free 4 star and some orbs but grinding points can get u some goodies like summon tickets which are basically free pulls, orbs at certain point ranks and i got to 2 mill points on the current event and somewhere along the lines i got a whole 5 star ticket.
-other game modes that are good for orb grinding are senkaimon (which i can write a whole guide on combat strategy to) and guild quests. unfortunately those are what i consider the harder game modes due to some being very character specific like theres only one exact card that fits every requirement but you can easily get orbs and other goodies and even earn tickets. although if youre new id wait a bit before attempting until you got a fair repertoire of characters
- be careful about splurging on banners some banners are baits right before a really good banner such as cfyow safwy or anniversary or general end of month banners and those characters tend to be really good. its probably bc they want to bait ur orbs so youd spend money on the good banners.
-side note dont feel like you need to spend money. i have like 100+ 6 stars and havent spent a cent on this game. and i also took several months off. do not feel like u need to spend money thats the devils temptations.
-do not become a pvp sweat its bad news the meta is very strict and also at a certain level ppl just spend money to get the upper hand like its not worth it at all unless u want medals ig. also its the least fun gamemode but if u want a basic rundown of pvp meta anything with high attack is good. thats rlly it.
- do not spend orbs on accessories just hoard tickets. orbs are for summoning characters and you can still get rlly good items from the tickets. its a lot harder to get golden accessories sure but its not worth the orbs imo
-btw if u get stuck on like a floor of senkaimon or ur on a mission and dont want to restart the thing to get all orbs just force exit the app the moment either you know youve fucked up or right as your character hits the ground dead. like a full restart the app moment. for apple devices i just get to the scrolling apps part you know the one with all the apps youve used recently and swipe up. its cheap and its cheating but by god im not no hitting a floor again
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spiderton · 2 years
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ok just gonna ramble on abur a possible pmv i might make but anyway. hero to player (almighty) after hes named/freed from the rock maybe. like he says they dont have any choice (you can name him cunt and the game will go with it. i know this)
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this could go plenty of days but like maybe the mask hero wears vanishing their memory or whatever? "i was born yesterday" is obviously a metaphor for becoming The patapon hero or whatever so ig it could refer to them Yknow. becoming the patapon hero and perhaps feeling forced into this role or whatever
the last lines though are obvious maybe it could be him as an uberhero to silver hoshipon but Hmm. hero not liking almighty bc theyre basically a puppet in some way. and to be more fanonish "why should i care either way, if what you say is true?" smthung smthing his feelings towards slinky and like. this is a REACH i am REWRITING this but everything forcing him and slinky to be together while in reality hero can only remember slinky vaguely and its like. said in canon he "remembers" but what if thats just smthing theyve been shown and they arent so sure of his memories? so when him and slinky actually get to chat hero barely feels connected to her bc of the mask theyve been wearing? yes im ignoring canonsorry i love complex stuff or whatever
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first image is weirdly cropped her sorry but obviously about slinky maybe. something something the urge to feel attracted to someone but like that doesnt relate to the song so maybe hero is just trying to recall slinky (or naughtyfins in general) but most of their actual memories together is clouded by the present and not the past and how they bonded and were meant to be so close. a lot more lyrics but yeah
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anyway him to almighty. alternate universe wise hes probably taking off the mask / being selfish for doing so? and cussing out the almighty bc theyve been nothing but, yknow, a puppet for the last two games and it feels as if they dont have much freewill. like this feels meta but whatever
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lvcygraybaird · 6 years
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hi it's 12:59 am and I literally cannot believe that clarke griffin said the words 'you've got such a big heart, bellamy' unprompted, to bellamy blake. i'm just thinking about that. it literally just popped into my head? think about it
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karmawonders · 2 years
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Have so many ideas for writing but my courses are kickin my sorry ass 😌
While doing my schoolwork and then taking a break to play genshin (kokomi finally came smh) my youtube recommended me a backrooms iceberg whatnot.
And it got me thinkin😤
With the sagau au and cult au, its easy to make it “oh its a real place and the computer was a portal for it! “Or its “still in a computer but the characters and planet have gotten conciousness” whatever,,, and like,, either way,,, this gives so much potential for cross overs of huge multitude. That can also be “canon” with our AUs?
Like?? Ugh. Idk how backroom lore took me down this road but my ✨ stars ✨ i wanna see more crossovers Like genshins real, and we are their god apparently, so many we can make a planet or some domain to mimic other games/new worlds?
Taking Klee and a few other Acolytes to hangout with Frisk in Undertale, exploring that world. Having Zhongli play a real life verision of FNAF and seeing him absolutely pummel Bonnie. Getting lost im the backrooms with em. Idk man.
🌸Brainrot ahead🌸
Playing minecraft ? Xiao making a nice wood house and it getting exploded by a creeper? (I headcanon that he would very much be the flower-picking house decorator minevraft player when he isnt stressed out about his duties in Liyue aight)
How do u explain to him monsters r just gonna keep spawnin u cant just eliminate them all in the way ur used too honey -wait no dont go by that creeper oop and he died good thing minecraft has a quick respawn
(Noo little adeptus boi, dont go by that creeper! )
Jean using minecraft game / actual world we make to help teach Klee about explosions and the repercussions safely? Like honey we cant go to sleep now because you blew up ur fuckin bed. And our house. And the cow farm. And wheat farm. Someone get klee mining with all the tnt or smth who cares for childlabor laws /JOKE
I want more crossovers and like meta things ig? Just explainin them concepts that probably wouldnt make sense to them but make sense to us? Like phones? Or like highways?
How do we explain movies. Or the American school system. Does teyvat have Vaccines? Are their flat earthers on teyvat? ... do they have toilet paper??? 🧐 im askin the real questions
(Ive actually had dreams where ive yelled af Venti for trying to cross a road without a crosswalk and he nearly fuckin died)
rjejenejskksksksks anyway ive read a lot of good ones that touch these concepts, all that I can get my mitts on but blegh i need more im starvin over here feed me .
Nawt me complainin and not writing it smh 🤦‍♀️ ignore me
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radiantmists · 3 years
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i feel like this is gonna be an unpopular opinion but i sometimes see people talk about grizzop as a sort of paragon of logic and morality and it always bugs me.
bc like. yes, i love grizzop. and i think it’s clear that he is very much trying to be good, and he’s very committed to doing what he sees as the right thing. 
but the same are true for azu and hamid and plenty of characters, and i don’t think he’s any better at moral reasoning than most of the rest of the party. i think the impression that he is comes from his unshakeable confidence and his mastery of what I’ve started to think of as catholic logic. 
(this is fairly stream of consciousness and i’m not gonna tag it bc it’s not gonna be entirely coherent or especially well argued, i’m just getting some thoughts down. but my understanding is that sometimes untagged stuff shows up in search, plus ig i have followers, so feel free to reply and discuss this, i’d actually love that. but not much i say here is stuff i’m super confident about so... please don’t get too offended by my wrongness. just tell me why you feel im wrong without aggression, or move on.)
the first bit is the confidence. we don’t ever see grizzop have a moral crisis in the way that most of the other characters do. I can’t think of a time that he’s appeared to look back on something he’s done and wonder if it was wrong; the closest that occurs to me is when he regretted shooting the guy’s legs off in the cairo bar, but tbh i think that was more of a judgement error where he expected to hurt the person much less than he did. we don’t see him question things like flooding the orc town near damascus or dragging sasha into the politics of ancient rome when she didn’t want to be, and honestly, i think this lack is mostly to do with how short a time he was with the party.
most of the arcs he were present for were focused on hamid and sasha’s growth. where he played respectively the accuser and the protector, both roles that made him look good because they cast him as the arbiter of who was right. 
i think hamid, especially, bought into this in the cairo arc, because i think hamid is very consciously in the process of recalibrating his moral compass at the time and he has a marked tendency to do so based on the people he admires-- and the loudest voice in the room. hamid really doesn’t like people he admires having a problem with him, and he already felt that he wasn’t necessarily a good person, so he was very open to seeing grizzop or azu as the authority on whether he could be good, and since grizzop pushed where azu prevaricated, grizzop was the one who got the final say.
but in the same arc, you can see sasha and azu starting to question grizzop’s moral compass; sasha notices how legalistic grizzop’s judgement is, and that it really ought to condemn her too, while azu takes issue with how brutal grizzop’s methods are (see punching wilde). but neither of them are willing to press the issue with him at that point, and so he’s never really confronted with something that contradicts him.
and notably, grizzop’s confidence comes from the obvious source: he believes that artemis is inviolably good, and he knows she approves of what he’s doing because his powers still work. but there’s an arrogance here, too, a very strong belief in his own moral superiority with the slightest confirmation; look at rome, where he refuses to listen to azu and ed’s assertions that there’s something wrong with the gods there, because he was able to bull through to artemis the one time he tried, so obviously he must just be a better paladin of a better god, right?
grizzop has very strong beliefs and opinions, and he takes whatever route works best to fulfill them-- both in terms of actions, and in terms of logic. take his decision to forgive/endorse hamid near the end of the cairo arc: by his own assertions, people should experience consequences for their actions, and we know he knows what manslaughter is because he brings it up when hamid first starts talking about accidental murder. but where saleh and carter belong in jail because they’re ~bad~, hamid is allowed to continue on because he’s ‘trying to be better’, never mind that that  was hamid’s whole argument about why saleh didn’t deserve to go to jail. plus, saleh’s one goal when he thought he’d killed someone was to resurrect them, which imo makes a lot more sense as a redemptive gesture than going around killing entirely unrelated people. the rules are different because grizzop likes hamid (and probably a bit because ben didn’t want to break the party, but shhh).
this twisting of the logic to fit what you’re trying to prove is what i mean by ‘catholic logic’ (i’m catholic dont @ me); it sounds really good if you don’t think about it too hard, but in fact it’s generally post-facto rationalizations for decisions that have already been made.
grizzop is very enthusiastic about poking holes in other people’s moral reasoning, as we see with apophis, but i think his issue is that he’s got a blind spot when he looks at himself and his own decisions. in grizzop’s world, grizzop is right as long as artemis is still with him and everything else comes after.
now i’m personally of  the opinion that alex doesn’t bother/want to engage with the idea that gods take away powers, post-poseidon nonsense, which if true i sympathize with; doing so is either going to lead to the sort of inscrutability zolf had a meltdown over, or put a player in the weird position of making their character do what alex has decided their god would require or having to entirely reinvent the character without those divine powers.
on another meta level, my understanding is that grizzop  was designed to be very resistant to doubt because of ben’s difficulties playing zolf, so i think he might have been nearly as resistant to growth on that front as bertie was in general, because believing unshakeably that he’s right is a core element of his character. 
but i think if grizzop had lived longer, alex absolutely would have done some hammering at that absolute conviction. that might have come in the form of vesseek and the fact that grizzop is apparently an absentee father; even if he is sending home money, i can’t imagine that not being something that gets mined for angst. 
i also think he would have eventually come into a similar sort of conflict with azu, sasha, or cel (whoever was there) that zolf is in right now, where he absolutely believes that whatever killing he’s committed/intending to commit is not only right but a moral imperative, and they disagree. 
now whatever side you fall on in the barrett debate, i think grizzop ought to be a lot less willing than zolf to say ‘i’m not gonna go through you lot to do it’, not because i’m convinced grizzop would be hugely more willing to physically fight the rest of the team over it, we know that despite his practicality he seems to overlook some ‘’’wobbles’’’ in people he already cares about,  but because zolf is capable of giving up on something in a way that grizzop just isn’t. i dont know how that would play out; chances are, it would get interrupted by a fight, but. who knows.
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tsurangaconundrum · 2 years
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Dude i love the internet sometimss i go to someones blog and theyre like “sideblog is at x” and im like !!!???! DUDE???? Sometimes i think i know three people but they turn out to all be the same person on different accounts and it makes me love them more. Theres someone, like longtime friend, on my discord server who im not entirely sure is actually a separate person or another account for the same person but like. Ive known these people for like 3 years now so i cant really ask??
I feel like ive said this before but worst thing in the world is not knowing if something you do or experience is normal -
My sisters dog is growling at nothing right now but she was kinda asleep and now shes up and wagging her tail so probably im not about to get nerfed by a ghost. If i dont send this ask you’ll know ig.
- anyway so then youre googling hospital robots at two in the morning and for some reason the internet doesn’t know what you mean by that. Idk the human experience is so varied and seriously what how are there so many ways to do things the world is so crazy. I wanna live in the same house with someone i share no language with and see how that would work out. I think im pretty good at nonverbal communication and also it would be rad af to halfway not know whats going on half the time but it would be in a fun way this time. My neighbor, when i was bad at chinese or having trouble learning or whatever offered to drop me off on the streets of beijing and pick me up three days later, he said by then id know the language. At the time that scared me, and i dont know how good of an idea that specifically is but idk id do it. Its just so wild how many things there are yknow??
Honestly i feel like i had other funnier things to say but i cant remember any of them so instead how about you tell me how youre doing? How was your new year and being back at school and whatnot? Seen any cool critters?
omg hi dba! answer for this and the rest of ur asks under the cut!!!
i think u can ask. i dont think its that rude. its a wide internet out there. im really careful abt keeping track of sideblogs and im super weird abt like who i follow i have neuroses abt it and stuff but so anyway i do keep exact track of who is who. if i interact via a sideblog i constantly keep track.
as for the varied and wild human experience yes so much. i dont think its a good idea to do that but my dad said when he lived in south america for a little while as a kid he picked up spanish really quick so it's true. i love thinking about the complex inner lives of everyone around me. andrew garfield voice i think you could fall in love with anyone if you knew their story.
my new year was very boring lol i literally watched doctor who on da couch but it was good. as for critters i was getting high a while back (sorry kids. dont do drugs etc) and a deer literally came out of the woods and walked right by me. like it was not 5 feet from me i could have reached out and touched it. it was sososo cool.
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okay so when u sent this i was actually blogging while on a discord call with tumblr user transfagshit / carriecoded and so we were a little incomprehensible on the dash. our blogs should be viewed together in tandem from that night in order to piece together any jokes
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analyzing supernatural actually has nothing to do with being smart and everything to do with bullshitting. all analysis is going hey you know what would be funny. if i said this. i have a post somewhere that keeps being tagged as like meta and or whatever and i genuinely have no idea what i was saying. i typed it frantically at 1am. so clearly its at least a little bit bullshitting. its not exhausting at all because were all doing it as a bit. writing supernatural posts fills the hole in my heart that having not taken an english class in 2.5 years left. its a hobby.
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fsdakjsfdlkjf thanks bro. it'll be okay. someone died recently. which hasnt been fun. but i'm okay. or i will be or whatever. life goes on etc. i'll be fine! nevertheless he blogged etc
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the only thing with the omega variant is it is the last greek letter, which means we would have to do the million other variants first. which would suck. but god if we got there we would NEED the laugh. we earned the laugh. for getting through that. also dont apologize i love receiving ur asks!!! bussin. i feel like that word had a real cultural moment 5 months ago and i havent seen it since thank u for reminding me. i hope youre also having a lovely time wherever you are
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matoitech · 4 years
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4, 6, 7, 16, 17, 18, 19.
THANK YOU riley 
4. What made you want to watch Promare? What drew you in?
I RLY WANTED TO SEE IT BC OF THE ANIMATION. i knew nothing abt it bc when i watched it barely anyone had seen it yet so id heard no spoilers, i just saw trailers and was going thru a real rough time so i was like fuck it im gonna drive literal hours and go watch it i need colors in my life it looks like it’ll be pretty even if it sucks. and then i watched it and whatever that post is that is im not the same person i was one movie ago
6. What is one of your favorite moments in the film?
so many i like :) kakusei lio though is like. gorgeous animation. makes me so emotional. theres SO many good parts about it like beyond the colors and like i said ANIMATION cannot stress this enough ANIMATION. i RLY love how promare combined the 2d and 3d like the 1st time i watched it i was kinda like huh some of this looks unfinished but i have grown to love it. i am appreciative. ANYWAY THERES SO MANY GOOD PARTS OF LIO DRAGON SCENE. KAKUSEI BLARING. GALOS “THAT FIRE... IS HE CRYING?” LIO IN GENERAL LIO. RAGGGRGG BARK BARK
7. What is the worst moment in the film? How’d you want it to change?
ok there was definitely more than one thing id change that would make the movie so much better but if we’re going by MOMENTS.. kind of hard for me to decide between surprise! burnish kray! or the promare leave. bc i think both of them like add onto triggers whole thing of ‘we will write this serious thing and then we wont actually think any part of our way of handling it in the last 3/4 of it through, or like, at all but especially that last part’ which is just. hrrghh. if i changed it kray would just have a gun and the promare wouldnt LEAVE. theyd just figure out a way to coexist. ive talked more extensively abt this i can write a whole thing. way to butcher your message trigger
16. A popular opinion in the fandom you can’t get enough of?
ok well to be honest i cant rly think of any popular fandom opinion for promare i actually like, im sure theres smth we majority agree on but i cant think of anything rn. perhaps that we all seem to like thyma. i love thyma. also gueira and meis are married. idk if i ‘cant get enough of it’ i just think its true. amongst my mutuals tho trans galolio wins. is that an opinion or is it a fact ;)
17. Favorite AUs you’ve seen/heard of or your own?
I LIKE ROLESWAPS WHEN THEY DONT LIKE COMPLETELY CHANGE THE CHARACTERS PERSONALITIES like mad burnish leaders galo and lio and they are married? if god hates gays why do we keep winning. also all my aus are genius obviously <3 pacific rim aus are among my favorites i love pacific rim aus. i dont even like the movie that much i just think its perfect for promare aus or just, in general. thyma lives aus are also great i love those. promare dont go away aus. werewolves <3 but only when theyre written by me or the mutuals bc ig we’re the only ones who don’t make it weird
18. Would you want a sequel/prequel or any sort of extra story? And what about?
Answered! I could talk abt this one waaaay too much i have to keep it to a short ‘answered’ or i will start and NOT stop. trigger hire me. trigger listen i guarentee i care more about your characters than you ever will
19. What are your self indulgent head canons?
what ARENT my self indulgent headcanons. every galo meta i write is just a self indulgent headcanon u KNOW trigger didnt think that hard. im not good w just general ‘give hcs’ i wrote some out but theyre all thigns ive said b4.. if anyone wants like more specific ones ask away but for now my brain is NOT there to write hcs <3 THANK YOU THO :)
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ive noticed that a LOT of fanfics that try to redeem dedede really dont try. like its not like the author is lazy but the way its executed is
i have never read a fic wherein dedede is given a satisfactory redemption arc, he’s usually just nice from the beginning and very flat with the same personality every other ‘game’ dedede has, basically just ‘i am loud, i’m not mean or cruel im just loud and also im very sassy and a dad dont mess with me im epic’ which seems at first like it might substitute for his evil nature but it doesn’t
or he’s just really outrageously stupid, which is more anime dedede. 
i do agree with you, though i think dedede in and of himself is a hard character to do perfectly ‘correctly’. because when it comes to game canon, there is no correct way to write him. because dedede has no personality. he has hints of personality. which is not replacement for a personality. you are left entirely to your own devices when it comes to dedede’s flaws and his entire mindset in general, because canon supports absolutely everything you could ever put onto his canvas. i could say dedede is a hostile matriarch with no care for anyone other than himself and his kingdom and it’d be supported, because the only times dedede has been forced to act out of good is to defend his planet from something (potentially, in magolor’s case) hostile. or i could say he’s just a cozy uwu dad who’s done some wrong but he’s fluffy and cute nao and canon would sort of shakingly support that.
i went out a LOT about this on the hnk discord server. i’ll leave the entire transcript below but it’s about how people write game canon / why i don’t read game canon fics / the intrinsic, EXTREME difficulty with writing game canon fics. had this convo with @sociallyunacceptableorb , @toon-kirby , and azuranaito
i’ll tl;dr it here but: the reason why game fics seem a little strange while going in is because the games themselves lack a solid personality for the characters. fanon personality exists for them, and usually when writers write for them, they step in such a way which may not align with you, the viewer’s expectations of the fanon personality. it may seem inherently unsatisfying, to you, but for others, it’s very satisfying. the status of game canon and fandom canon makes it harder for you to be satisfied by the fanfics you read unless they are very surface level, boring sorts of fanfics. 
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:40 PM
kitty’s opinion time
most writers cannot go without incorporating the anime in some regard to kirby content due to how much the anime had bled into the interpretations of the games. people will write spanish meta knight as a game thing, people will write kirby being babyish / saying poyo being a game thing, as well as dedede being southern a game thingthe writers who decry the anime as bad / only good ‘at the time’ yet use anime personalities / interpretations make me lul extremely.(edited)
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 12:44 PM
Galaxia was from the anime.
Girlaxia was from 4Kids.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:45 PM
kirby saying ‘poyo’ is an anime thing, galaxia is an anime thing, to pick and choose from the anime shows that the games and their lack of writing cannot stand on its own without having to take from the very franchise that’s being decryed to help a worse written franchise
(edited)
no writing / intrigue writing ≠ good writing
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 12:47 PM
To be fair, it’s probably for the best that anime bleeds into the games or else we’d be stuck with oceans of edgelordery KIRBY IS EVUL AND EATS INNOCENT LIVES… though that’s already on AO3.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:47 PM
looks at matpat
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 12:48 PM
He ignores all canon to make people mad on purpose.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:48 PM
honestly if removing anime canon / anime’s bleed into the video game’s interpretation = writers to go 'KIRBY EVUL’ then idk what to say other than lul
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 12:49 PM
I mean, I don’t think the games writing is shit, but I also don’t trust edgy people with Void Termina.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:50 PM
i think saying 'game writing > anime writing’ is just blatantly.. wrongbecause that’s just saying 'little to no writing so that way you can focus on gameplay > a literal 22 episode made for television with themes and lessons’
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 12:51 PM
Oh! Yeah, that I agree on.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:51 PM
i also dont trust edgelords with kirby or void honestly
or any kirby characters
i dont trust edelords period
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 12:51 PM
I thought you were saying that all game lore was trash.
It’s crumbs.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:51 PM
i used to be one and i made EVERYTHING baaad
it’s comparing crumbs to a loaf of bread
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 12:52 PM
“Well, I hate pumpernickel! So the entire loaf is bad!”
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:52 PM
uerGHERUG
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 12:53 PM
“But you haven’t even eaten it.”“IT’S BAD.”…this metaphor is getting lost.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:53 PM
honestly it’s why i just.. dont read game fics, because there’s little to no ground for writers to stand on and write stuff with
things get too wild and they feel just.. weird ig
i dont know how to put it into words, really
AzuraLast Wednesday at 12:54 PM
That kinda makes me mad with what happened with one of my friends. People got onto her for crossing the anime and games together, which, when she wrote it, it wasn’t bad at all, but because the anime was involved people wanted to bitch at her for it.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:54 PM
interps of game canon are based purely off the person who writes it and all the people reading said thing all have different interpretations which inherently makes reading a game fic unsatisfying and ooc for you personally because your hc filled in the void the game left differently than the authors did. but for the writer it is ic.(edited)
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 12:55 PM
Like gijinka fic?
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:56 PM
reading mirror fics also, inherently, can be unsatsifying i think
for the same reasons
people have so many different interps of how mirror world works that reading anything about it, just on its core basis that the author uses to define a 'mirror world’ can feel unsatisfactory
gijinka as well suffers from this
AzuraLast Wednesday at 12:57 PM
My friend didn’t write gijinka. But she self projected quite a bit onto Meta; her HC for him was that he was an engineer trained under Haltmann.Which also ended up writing out the actual irl problems her major has which is an aerospace engineering.Hoo boy, with the Mirror World, there’s no clear line with it but the majority is usually edgy.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 12:58 PM
people have different interps, and because of how the western world works, we all think our interpretation is the best we can possibly have. usually when we read things we suspend our disbelief, and when it comes to kirby fics, game fics, gijinka fics, i don’t think people can really.. deeply get involved in them.it’s a problem fics i suppose in general have. but it’s especially bad for game canon writers, or gijinka writers.people have hugely different adaptations of the same subject. with the anime there’s clearly written rules and characters defined over the course of 100 episodes. there’s a clear cut story with lots of dialogue and content there to be tackled. but even still, it can be interpreted differently by different people because thats how life works. only the existence of a canon episode cannot be refuted; a fic can be
game canon is harder to do because yes you have the games, and a lot of them, but there is no writing. it is all gameplay. which means that personalities and dialogue and whatever else is not the focus. people can have extremely varying interpretations of canon because of this, which is what intrinsically makes game canon harder to write for. with anime canon it’s easier to write closer to canon because there is a clear cut one. but with game canon, there is no clear cut canon.
AzuraLast Wednesday at 1:02 PM
That’s also why so many people also freak out about all the supposed lore the games have, right?
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:02 PM
the lore in games is very open ended is the thing, so it leads to people’s speculation and very different extrapolations of the lore and canon, yes
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 1:03 PM
Yup! It adds to their own things; it’s satisfying less for the confirmation and more for the new content to tinker with.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:03 PM
kirby is very, VERY dry in terms of story telling in the games, so any piece of lore given is EXTREMELY important for content creators / theorists(edited)
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 1:04 PM
I can’t really fault people who build off lore since it’s such a personal thing. Other people get huffy and whine about them “not really appreciating the game” but I find it is appreciation, just in a different fashion. It goes downhill once people get childish and argumentative, though.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:05 PM
the thing is people can also do that ^ for the anime too
remember that one server you were talking about in #newbie-chat
lol
in the end we are the people going 'you are not appreciating the anime right and the way you write for the games is going to intrinsically be unsatisfying unless you go onto the crutch of anime lore'i do anime/game fusion because i know the games can’t stand on their own
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 1:08 PM
Aheh. But of course.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:08 PM
[snobbish laughter]
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 1:08 PM
I actually don’t for the same reason. It feels cheap, like I’m forcing a square peg into a round hole.The barebones of the games doesn’t mesh with the backstory of the games that well for me.
StarRodPiplupLast Wednesday at 1:09 PM
So, like, if I wrote a fic with a sentient Galaxia, and then threw the rest of anime canon in the trash, it wouldn’t be cool?
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:09 PM
it’d be relying on the anime canon in some regard, showing that the game canon can’t hold its own
StarRodPiplupLast Wednesday at 1:09 PM
Too many plot holes
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:10 PM
it would be a tad bit jarring, at least in my opinion because im the local brutal 4kids anime stan
but for other people it wouldnt be, i’m just a person with too much time to complain about kirby
StarRodPiplupLast Wednesday at 1:11 PM
I’ve been really curious if “a nightmare of a galactic crisis” was just a coincidence or a deliberate lore inspired word choice, hence why I’ve steered away from capitalist idiot nightmare….it’s fun to write him like that though.
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 1:11 PM
Also, if it’s a prequel… where the hell does Tiff go? The Cappies? Cappy Town? Dedede just abandons everybody for no reason and there’s a fountain powered by something that Kirby had to create by eating?
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:11 PM
schrodingers cappytown
AzuraLast Wednesday at 1:12 PM
I would like to know my own headcanons give my own appreciation to both the anime and the games. Games can’t stand alone with their bare bones and the anime can always be expanded upon. Nothing wrong with having fun while writing, that’s all it is, isn’t it?
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:13 PM
honestly i think the best way to write kirby stuff is anime/game fusions
i wonder if it’s because thats what i write HMMMMMMEIUGUIERGHERG
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 1:13 PM
I fuse. I go by manga lore.
Novel, whatever.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:13 PM
novel lore or bust
AzuraLast Wednesday at 1:14 PM
I fuse because it feels the most natural for me.
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 1:14 PM
Because the novels actually build on it! They don’t pop backstory in everywhere! It’s just a Kirby game with more explanations for stuff in it!
StarRodPiplupLast Wednesday at 1:14 PM
I just wanna write about an evil vampiric wizard for some reason
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:14 PM
the games do need something to help them, i believe. when it comes to content creation of the purely fic type, anywayscourtesycalling does great one-shot comics and what not, they do game lore to the t because their comics are.. well.. oneshots. they’re satisfying by themselves
anyways i’ve got a lot of feelings on people decrying the anime as bad or cool to hate then taking things from the anime and putting it into game lore. that’s mostly what this is about
AzuraLast Wednesday at 1:17 PM
It seems kind of hypocritical in a sense too, doesn’t it?“Oh, I hate the anime but love the games but I’ll piss on the anime as I write my fic because even though I love the games I need to strong bones of the anime to hold me up as I write my fic.”
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:18 PM
yeah that’s sorta what im on about here thank you for summarizing it for me
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 1:18 PM
Yep! I joke about it a lot myself.Especially people using 4kids voices when they say 4Kids is trash.
AzuraLast Wednesday at 1:18 PM
Same, all it seems to be is a freaking joke.
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 1:18 PM
Sorry for turning this into a Steven Universe-esque debate thread.
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:19 PM
i instigated it
:v
Garlude Smoocher (Shirley)Last Wednesday at 1:19 PM
:v
chingkittycatLast Wednesday at 1:19 PM
it’s an interesting thread anyways so
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