#condwiramurs

[galateaencore]

By popular demand from my 4 mutuals...

Methodology: I tried to pick characters that are lesser-known but still liked by those who remember them. If you needed to google some of these, that means I got it right 🦗🦟🦗🦟🦗🦟

#witcher #wiedzmin #angouleme #condwiramurs #eithne #isengrim #kelpie #mousesack #nenneke #nimue #rayla #yarpen zigrin

[hanzajesthanza]

i realized something absolutely hilarious while rereading chapter 2 of lady of the lake yesterday!

when condwiramurs asks nimue about dreaming past the versions of the legend which she’s engrained in her memory, she lists the versions of the legends she’s read… and which, who, amongst these literary versions does she include?

the name rings a bell … let’s look deeper.

because you might remember the name “ravix” from the short story “a question of price,” where geralt attends princess pavetta’s birthday banquet disguised as “ravix of fourhorn”…

“ravix,” described with a coat of arms as such:

exceptionally similar, one may say, identical to the rawicz coat of arms in real life:

("ravix" being, from what i can tell, an anglicized spelling - maybe ravich also would work but, besides the point).

but, how does this relate to the name of the author? well...

in an article published in "magic and sword" 28, 29, 30, our author mentioned his own coat of arms being the very same:

(DeepL) Bears can be climbing (the coat of arms of the city of Berlin, the emblem of the former Brandenburg margraves) or walking (my own coat of arms, Rawicz, depicting a maiden riding a bear).

and from there, it's an obvious joke.

the author, andrzej, andrei... the book, lady of the lake.

sapkowski put the very book we're reading... into the very book we're reading! the characters in the book have read the book they exist in! so meta! with this, it seems to me that he is never beating the postmodernist allegations 😅

#the witcher books #andrzej sapkowski #book: lady of the lake #c: condwiramurs #analysis #not really analysis but its just so fun

[zhraek]

the moment when sapkowski describes that artists made illustrations of popular moments from ciri yen and geralt story ignoring other equally significant ones this is me when there is no fanart for some moments from the witcher books

#whining #when i read moments with nimue and condwiramurs it seemed to me that sapkowski often contacts witcher fandom

[supercupcakecollector-love]

For all of you complaining about Radovid in the show because he’s supposed to be a child and also a horrible racist tyrant, it is this Radovid that I firmly believe is supposed to be the one that inspired the version in the show ( he even has a brother named Vizimir)

Radovid was prepared to risk it all and give up EVERYTHING!! after one night with Jaskier the bard, now that is definitely the behavior of one called “The Bold”

I can totally see the Radovid we saw saying this, he's cool with witchers as long as they pay their taxes so he has the funds to make his way back to his Bard

Besides, in the show, he’s never referred to as the Stern or the 5th “V” I see how people could assume because the most well-known Radovid is the one from the game, and frankly, as I have seen in the past year of being one, a witcher fans favorite pastime is assuming things

for those of you saying "What about the timeline" the timeline in The Witcher could not matter less, the books contradict themselves several times and the author himself was not super concerned about the timeline. the games contract both themselves and the books several times,

Besides that, the entire story of the witcher is framed as "magical historians" for example: Condwiramurs Tilly and Nimue, trying to piece it back together, with the in-between chapter info ( as this is) being some of their findings

"A story is a largely false account, of largely trivial events, fed to us by historians who are largely idiots" - Season of Storms

in other words in the Witcher world "Space is warped and time is bendable" ( literally in Ciri`s case)

#the witcher #the witcher netflix #twn #radovid #radskier #dont take this seriously this is a crack theory but also take this completely seriously because I know in my heart it makes sense #what stage of brainrot is this

[vesemirsexual]

Nimue writing fanfiction about the adventures of Ciri, her hyperfixation

the thing is, i think she’d swing on you if you called it fanfic because she’s going for historical accuracy

girl is writing thinkpieces. girl is writing history books. she literally dragged poor condwiramurs out to her hyperfixation tower to make her dream about geralt and ciri so she knew what was canon

#and she serves for that! #katie txt

[essskel]

i've just seen you post a lot of cool asks and deep discussions over the past day and i got lonely and want to join the party hehe. so i was going to ask smth that ive been meaning to ask your opinion on for a while: what do you think about philippa's martyrdom and the rewriting of history which occurred after her death? i was always kind of shocked with how violent a death she was recorded as receiving, and shocked twice-over at how positively she was thought of a hundred years after her death. but it's just very interesting to me, especially because of the real-life historical context as it relates to christian martyrdom, and the message around it about history often being obscured - nimue and condwiramurs 'seeking the truth' of the ending of the legend of the witcher girl and debating what is factual history and what is made-up, while at the very same time, discussing the accounts of the members of the lodge and not thinking to question their positive impressions of their morality or motivations. it makes for some great dramatic irony. like nimue and condwiramurs being fans of both ciri and philippa despite the obvious antagonistic relationship between these two. (well, okay, i suppose they're just like us, then...)

Sorry this answer is late but YEAH what was up with Philippa's ending.

I was initially put off by it especially after her final scene that's filled with all this anger and persevering determination to keep Radovid from holding power over her. It feels like this push of strength that's followed up by 'and then she died horribly anyway' which took the wind out of the sails a bit for me.

But...idk, now I think I'm more at peace with it, because like you said, her crimes being swept aside by history in favor of a more heightened and reverent narrative is probably the best ending she could have asked for after the life she lived. It's such a time-honored pathway to infamy that historical figures fall into, particularly political figures in colonizing countries.

Going further, I have no idea if Sapkowski intended this, but to me, her ending and the legacy that nimue and condwiramurs have adopted might relate to some of the discussions of white feminsm and the way that complex or even downright awful, murderous female historical figures have been romanticized and martyred by 'progressive' groups in ways that they should not have been. Marie-Antoinette, Mother Theresa, Virginia Woolf, literally any British Queen, Coco Chanel, Bonnie Parker (of Bonnie and Clyde), ect. (that list was all over the place, sorry lmao that was off the top of my head) Some of those women are war criminals, some are Nazis, some are outspoken racists, but they've all been called feminist figures at some point, some still are.

So Philippa with her covert, hard to track operations of the lodge, paired with a very public and cruel death? Yeah, actually it does make sense that she's a saint decades later, and I don't think she'd be very let down by this either.

And in relation to Ciri, it just feels like a final reminder that it's not the world, or the countries, or even history that's on Ciri's side, it was only ever truly her family that knew her and respected her in full. nimue and condwiramurs try to know her and they do in their own very important way - I don’t actually fault them - but they can’t 100% do right by her or even know her in the way they hope because that’s just not how time works.

#bonnie and clyde witcher discussion. never thought I'd be here #thank you nimueeeee I love hearing from you!!! #hanzajesthanza #the witcher books #philippa eilhart #nazi mention #ask #double shot

[tigerlyla-of-metinna]

Fic Update

Tags:/Relationship: Emhyr var Emreis/Sarah (OC), Mererid, Morvran Voorhis, Condwiramurs Tilly, Nimue, forbidden love, court intrigue, AU, eventual romance.

Summary:

Sarah's wisdom is put to the test by those above her station. The audience proved to be both enlightening, and disconcerting as Sarah inadvertently revealed more of herself that is worth looking into.

“What is your take on the oppositions ultimate goal, milady?”

A barely perceptible wrinkle appeared on Emhyrs’ brow. The spymaster’s eyes narrowed. Sarah was unaware of the internal conflict within the room, kept her expression serene.

She spoke up.

“Their last attempt at regicide borders on desperation. If one wishes to unseat the emperor, resorting to drastic measures should never be used as a resort- first or last. Foolishness like that ends up as examples to be displayed in the Millennium Square.”

Vattier and Morvran chuckled. Carmilo and Sven looked stunned. Emhyr remained silent, observing. Impressed. Puzzled.

Sarah found slipping into her old arrogant self as easy as slipping into her favorite shoes, and equally comfortable. She didn’t like it. All the more reason to leave Nilfgaard before she gets too used to the way of life she left behind.

It was Carmilo’s turn to ask

“There are two factions within the opposition. One wishes to return to the old ways which successors to the imperial throne must be of pure noble stock. The other wants power to be granted-and transferred- to the people. They call it “democracy”, where people choose who they want to govern them. Which do you think is more preferable?”

Morvran glanced at Vattier with a knowing yet troubled look: that was Skellens’ old cause! He may have been executed, but someone else picked up his goals.

Vattier briefly glanced at the emperor who observed the development with mild interest, but the way he gripped the armrest conveyed his displeasure. Why are they asking the new candidate these volatile questions in the presence of His Imperial Majesty?

Just another oral debate.

Sarah leaned forward with her elbows propped up, hands on top of each other: a thinker’s mannerism. After a brief moment of thought, she answered.

“Neither”

“Enlighten us then, milady” said the baron in a mocking tone.

I’ll show you my mettle, you arrogant prick!

#witcher fanfic #witcher fanfiction #emhyr var emreis #emhyr x oc #ao3 fic update #ao3

[half-giant]

One of the things I love about Parzival is how transgressive it was (for the 1200s). Like, Parzival and Condwiramurs have sex before getting married. Eschenbach was making a pointed statement with this, that the church got things backwards. They engage in an act of love first, then comes the ceremony. That seems fairly normal to us in modern times, but these themes run throughout the story. Feirifiz converts to Christianity because he has fallen in love with the Grail Maiden, faith too follows love.

Hell, the main part of the story is that medieval society denied a person to be a person. Parzival is taught that a knight should not ask questions of their betters. So when he sees Anfortas in pain, his first instinct is compassion, to ask “What ails you, old man.” but he doesn’t. Doing this dooms the land, until he finally can meet the Fisher King again and ask that, healing him.

#I may be a little obsessed with this stupid poem #Like I have legit considered learning Middle High German to read the original text

[number63liveblogs]

The Lady of the Lake: Chapter 2 part 2

‘They imprisoned her,’ she murmured. ‘And the Witcher was taking his pleasure in Toussaint with some brunette.’

And how should Geralt have known that Yennefer was a prisoner at that time? Not to mention, clearly what they had had never been an exclusive thing, except maybe for the time they were in close physical proximity.

I mean… Yennefer had a way of contacting people for a while there, and she didn’t send a word to Geralt. She could have told him what her plan was if she wanted him to help her. But she didn’t.

But I think part of Condwiramurs’s reaction here is about how she sees the relationship between Geralt and Yennefer. It’s part of a legend where she herself has said that she prefers the most story-like version, not the reality that their relationship was, to put it mildly, turbulent. So, basically Geralt is breaking up her OTP.

It’s also interesting how Nimue and Condwiramurs talk about the different versions of the story like it’s obvious that they will never know which is the correct one, but at the same time they’re actively doing magic to find out other things, that should be just as unknown. Is there some kind of variable that the reader ahsn’t

#the witcher series #the lady of the lake #liveblog #number 63

[dukeofdogs]

Gwent: The Witcher Card Game | Triss and Condwiramurs Tilly   | Avatars

#triss #gwent #journey #sorry elis #Condwiramurs Tilly #triss merigold #gwent: assets #gwent: journey #journey: triss

[galateaencore]

I may have missed the previous time you posted this, soooo here goes: 1, 7, 10, 12, 17, 18, 22 😄

ooooh a nice big crop! 1 and 22 over here. others:

7. what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because of how the fandom acts about them?

honestly I don't get the fascination with dandelion, sorry, jaskier, sorry, JASK... i will say he's livelier in twn than the books because he's straight up psychedelic camp rather than just passable comic relief, but idk if that says something about the other twn characters being a bit flat...

10. worst part of fanon

geraskier

12. the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them

i'll answer this question in a way that generates max spice level and min cogent argument:

"unpopular" characters as in no one ever thinks of them: dijkstra, isengrim, rayla, condwiramurs, eithne

"unpopular" characters as in people hate them: eredin, avallach, triss, philippa, rayla

you should like them because i like them and am shouting about it very loudly in public. that's how this works, right?

17. there should be more of this type of fic/art

worldbuilding-focused elf fanfic. i want your oc-centric treatise on how elves do agriculture, mutuals!

18. it's absolutely criminal that the fandom has been sleeping on...

honestly i'm not familiar enough with the fandom to say. but, as someone whose niche is def "slept on" (which i don't mean in the sense of more people should read it - lots of people are not into it, they have excellent reasons why, and we don't want them anyway), i kind of like the niche topic vibes. sometimes i feel like an academic who does something that only 10 other people in the world understand, and as someone who thrives in small groups, it's exactly what i wanted!

feel free to agree, argue, or give this post a spicy pepper rating!

#galatea again #galatea: unhinged hot takes

[hanzajesthanza]

it really does matter so much that fringilla vigo is nilfgaardian, beauclairoise, for many reasons, but let's start here:

her entire role is that of an illusionist; one which she would not be were it not for her family lineage, rooted in beauclair:

There was a corridor in Beauclair Palace, and at the end a chamber, the existence of which no one knew about. (...) The corridor and the chamber, disguised by a powerful illusion, were known only to the palace’s original elven builders. And later–when the elves had gone, and Toussaint became a duchy–to the small number of sorcerers linked to the ducal house. Including Artorius Vigo, a master of magical arcana and great specialist in illusions. And his young niece, Fringilla, who had a special talent for illusions.

and since her talent in illusions is well-defined in the series, as it is her who grants geralt the very silver-mounted chrysoprase amulet which saves his life in the final fight against vilgefortz:

Geralt clenched Fringilla’s medallion in his fist. The bar fell with a clang, striking the floor a foot from the Witcher’s head. Geralt rolled away and quickly got up on one knee. Vilgefortz leaped forward and struck. The bar missed the target again by a few inches. The sorcerer shook his head in disbelief and hesitated for a second. (...) ‘I didn’t know …’ Yennefer said at last, scrambling out of a pile of rubble. She looked terrible. The blood trickling from her nose had poured all over her chin and cleavage. ‘I didn’t know you could cast illusory spells,’ she repeated, seeing Geralt’s uncomprehending gaze, ‘capable even of deceiving Vilgefortz.’ ‘It’s my medallion.’ ‘Aha.’ She looked suspicious. ‘A curious thing...’

that talent is something which cannot, by far, be separated from her character. and returning back to her lineage, it is again her familial relations which place her in beauclair.

she was positioned there, ready to intercept geralt, as early as the autumnal equinox in september, by which time geralt had barely just left the town of riedbrune:

The world over, the autumn Equinox was a night of spectres, nightmares and apparitions, a night of sudden, suffocating awakenings, fraught with menace, among sweat-soaked and rumpled sheets. Neither did the most illustrious escape the apparitions and awakenings; (...) In the huge castle of Montecalvo the sorceress Philippa Eilhart leaped from damask sheets, without waking the Comte de Noailles’ wife. The dwarf Yarpen Zigrin in Mahakam, the old witcher Vesemir in the mountain stronghold of Kaer Morhen, the bank clerk Fabio Sachs in the city of Gors Velen and Yarl Crach an Craite on board the longboat Ringhorn all awoke more or less abruptly. The sorceress Fringilla Vigo came awake in Beauclair Castle*, as did the priestess Sigrdrifa of the temple of the goddess Freyja on the island of Hindarsfjall.

* Slight correction - As explained in Chapter 3 of Lady of the Lake, Beauclair is not a castle, but a palace.

and she's only invited to beauclair in such a capacity because she is a relative of the duchess:

‘I’m in Beauclair because the largest, best-stocked library in the known world is here. Apart from university libraries, naturally. But universities are jealous of giving access to their shelves, and here I’m a relation and good friend of Anarietta and can do as I wish.’

(whom, you may note, she stands by and jointly receives geralt with at their first meeting, and participates in the festival of the vat with)

and therefore, she was in a perfectly strategic position to delay geralt, keep him captive:

‘(...) Please at least tell us … has the Witcher calmed down now? Are you capable of keeping him in Toussaint at least until May?’ (…) ‘No,’ she answered at last. ‘Probably not until May. But I’ll do everything in my power to keep him here as long as possible.’

because fringilla is not just an illusionist literally, as in the magic she is naturally gifted at, but 'illusionist' is her entire identity as a character.

and as her family hails from beauclair, this specific identity is compounded with the fact that beauclair itself is the center of illusions, a dreamland, a fairytale:

‘There’s something bewitched about this place, this fucking Toussaint. Some kind of charm hangs over the whole valley. Especially over the palace (...) no two ways about it, there’s something bewitched about this bloody Toussaint.’

fringilla is an illusionist because she is beauclairoise. she not only hails from a long line of illusionists, but hails from, is related to the ruler of, the very city of illusions and dreams.

she is the illusionist not just in a literal sense, but in the entire narrative role of casting an illusion over our hero, because it is the illusion of love which keeps her and geralt in beauclair. (the tricky trick is that geralt, taking a page out of yennefer's playbook of seduction, cleverness, patience, was able to cast an illusion upon the mistress of illusions herself, free himself from the witch's spell, awake from a pleasant dream to face the harsh reality).

(sighs) and even if you want to forget fringilla's beauclairoise identity and erase her entire positioning as the illusionist which poses a threat to our heroes, entices them to complacency, her role as nilfgaardian in the sense of her academic identity and imperial service also defines her.

because it is also fringilla, the illusionist who casts the wool over people's eyes... who blinded yennefer at sodden hill.

‘We’ve already met,’ Yennefer spoke again. ‘I don’t recall,’ Fringilla said without looking away. ‘I’m not surprised. But I have a good memory for faces and figures. I saw you from Sodden Hill.’ ‘In which case there can be no mistake,’ Fringilla Vigo said and raised her head proudly, sweeping her eyes over all those present. ‘I was at the Battle of Sodden.’ (...) ‘Occasionally one happens to see another person for only a split second, right before going blind, and one takes a dislike to them instantly.’ ‘Oh, enmity is considerably more complicated,’ Fringilla said, squinting. ‘Imagine someone you don’t know at all standing at the top of a hill, and ripping a friend of yours to shreds in front of your eyes. You neither saw them nor know them at all, but you still don’t like them.’ ‘So it goes,’ Yennefer said, shrugging. (...)

fringilla's (proud!) participation at the battle of sodden is a crux of the lodge, because she alongside her good friend, the scholarly assire, they are nilfgaardians who, owing to their nationality, find challenges meshing with the northern sorcereresses. the lodge brought together representatives of magic across nationalities in the midst of a raging, bloody war between them all.

and it's so integral to fringilla's character that she has imperial biases, that she approaches even the international lodge with an imperialist view.

with no factual basis, she initially exotifies and sexualizes the northern sorceresses, despite her own prior denial of these base stereotypes:

Fringilla Vigo was putting on a brave face, but she was anxious and stressed. She herself had often reprimanded young Nilfgaardian mages for uncritically yielding to stereotypical opinions and notions. She herself had regularly ridiculed the crude image painted by gossip and propaganda of the typical sorceress from the North: artificially beautiful, arrogant, vain and spoiled to the limits of perversion, and often beyond them. (...) Her untrammelled imagination offered up images of impossibly gorgeous women with diamond necklaces resting on naked breasts with rouged nipples, women with moist lips and eyes glistening from the effects of alcohol and narcotics. In her mind’s eye Fringilla could already see the gathering becoming a wild and depraved orgy accompanied by frenzied music, aphrodisiacs, and slaves of both sexes using exotic accessories.

she even has a difficult time understanding why the northern sorceresses are upset about the nilfgaardian invasion, believing it to be a boon to their society. only through their discussion does she just barely begin to grasp the meaning of "invasion" and why she wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it:

Some were clearly anxious about the close proximity of Nilfgaard. Fringilla had mixed feelings. She had assumed that such educated people would understand that the Empire was bringing culture, prosperity, order and political stability to the North. On the other hand, though, she didn’t know how she would have reacted herself, were foreign armies approaching her home.

all of this indoctrination into imperial beliefs, at the same time that she is an educated woman, and herself, as an imperial sorceress, known for being rebellious and an upstart within her own culture:

‘Stop staring,’ Assire said, touching her bouffant and glistening curls. ‘I decided to make a few changes. Why, I just took your lead.’ ‘I was always taken as an oddball and a rebel,’ Fringilla Vigo chuckled. ‘But when they see you in the academy or at court…’

this is such a chaotic rambling post, but all i want to say is that fringilla's character, like most of the minor characters in the witcher series, was not invented through random generation, a roll of the dice, a spin of the wheel. her specific traits - such as her nationality, lineage, talents - all relate back thematically. everything is relevant, specifically chosen to create a specific character.

if once changes her backstory (e.g., to place her at aretuza... though i don't know who would do such a thing for no reason) they would change her entire character, the series' commentary on imperialism, and because of her role she takes later on, even the entire ending of the story.

#fringilla vigo #c: fringilla #the witcher books #book: lady of the lake #listen i don't enjoy her character as in i don't think about her 24/7 but i am begging my fellow fans to not just throw her #entire character out because they don't like her or what she does or they think it's just a matter of preference if she goes to aretuza #because these specificities define her entire character which define the entire stay in beauclair which define the assault on stygga castle #which define the entire ENDING of the saga which define the MEANING of the saga #these little guys (fictional characters) are like dominos or jenga blocks. if you move one little thing it changes everything #like there's so much meaning and symbolism to the wintering in beauclair it kills me to see people throw it out the window #bro they were caught in a dream a pleasant dream #and you also know what. the way we see beauclair. is FROM a dream. from condwiramurs' intentional oneiromancy #it's literally a dream about dreams #AUGH i lose my shit over the fakedeepness of lady of the lake #also her name is the latin for chaffinch. she's a little bird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fringilla #which i am... guessing... relates to the wintering theme... perhaps... #analysis

[abi-kamikakushi]

For @witcher-rarepair-summer-bingo

Prompt: watching them sleep (gen, no CWs)

Pairing:  Nimue / Condwiramurs Tilly

Sorceress fangirl and her sleepy oneiromancer gf <3

#rarepairs you say? #just some uhhhh book charas who dont have their own character tags #witcher nimue #condwiramurs tilly #also happy ciri family ;-; #the witcher books #the witcher #thanks to gwent they now have reference art #gwent #abi's art

[supercupcakecollector-love]

what you may be hearing about the “multiverse” explanations about the recast  is a false, click/ragebait article title 

  this is RI speculating, these arnt new interviews none of the interviews actually use the word "multiverse" This is about the unreliable narrator aspect of the story 

They’re still doing unreliable narrator and nothing will change my mind about this, even Tomek and the earlier article mention it several times, when they never actually mention ‘multiverses’, but mention multiple stories and storylines told by different people…, as in like Bards, and historians that would have had  different accounts of what happened 

they already kinda did this with blood origin it was clear that the story was biased to what  Éile experienced and that what we saw wasn't 100% acuate to what actually happened, and changed greatly over the centurys  while the series might have been a snoozefest that took any liberties with the source material, the idea of storytellers and the writers of history having power is something that is explored in the books  

They do mention multiple worlds ONCE, but in relation to ‘multiple worlds with multiple stories’, whereas they mention multiple stories with multiple POVs multiple times. This is still the most likely scenario for me, this is about  characters like  Condwiramurs Tilly and  Nimue or similar original characters that will fill a similar role  

And yes, Tomek specifically mentions book 5. You know what else is specifically mentioned in book 5, and books beforehand as well? Multiple people telling the story, who would have different descriptions of Geralt!! I’m telling you, this is still what they’re doing, Im willing to bet my hardcover collection on it 

#the witcher #twn #the witcher netflix #geralt of rivia #the witcher spoilers #witcher

[vesemirsexual]

condwiramurs that's kinda-

#first week at her new internship and she's milfhunting her boss smh. #/jks #katie txt

[cahir-and-ciri-dyffryn]

Did any of y’all notice in S2E6, Jarre talking about oneiromancy? – so what Triss did with Ciri - to see her genetic history and story? But what if it is also hinting at Nimue and Condwiramurs Tilly and their future connection with Ciri since Condwiramurs is one of, if not the most, powerful oneiromancers in history? Like, having her look at the paintings and things of the sagas of Ciri and the Witcher is how Nimue gets Tilly to dream of Ciri and her real history. 
And then, Jarre also begins talking about what I think is the Isle of Thanedd where Tor Lara (Tower of the Gull) is and how it connects to Tor Zireael (Tower of the Swallow)! Like, this scene had massive hints for the upcoming seasons!

#the witcher #the witcher season 2 #ciri #cirilla fiona elen riannon #jarre #the witcher netflix #nimue #condwiramurs tilly #tower of the gull #tower of the sparrow #tor zireael #tor lara #the witcher spoilers #my predictions #theories #witcher theories #mp #sam rambles