#dr. Janet Lubelle

[bigfootshonkers]

#welcome to night vale #dr. janet lubelle #wntv #the glow cloud #sarah sultan

[antigone-funn]

THE GLOW CLOUD CAN'T BE GONE!!!!!?,!??????? CAN WE SKIP AHEAD TO WHEN THE TOWN DEFEATS DR. LUBELLE AND EVERYTHING SHE EXPLAINED AWAY COMES BACK!!!,??????? PLEASE I AM DESPERATE

#episode 221 #wtnv #welcome to night vale #the glow cloud #all hail!!!! #ALL!!!! HAIL!!!!!!! #the mighty glow cloud #cecilsweep #cecil gershwin palmer #cecil baldwin #dr. Janet Lubelle #FUCK dr. Lubelle

[wt-nv-quotes]

As the saying goes, “Sunlight is the second best disinfectant, but you can’t get a tan with bleach!” 

#episode 212 #2022 #dr. janet lubelle #wtnv #welcome to night vale

[wanderingandfound]

What happened to Nilanjana? (And Luisa and Mark and the rest of Carlos's team of scientists?)

I've been wondering this since the first time I listened to 230 - Carlos Explained.

Dr. Lubelle stepped forward to meet our hometown hero. Behind her was her henchman, Dr. Blake Jones (released last week on bail for breaking and entering), and behind them was a nearly endless crowd of begoggled scientists. Dr. Lubelle smiled with venom, and crossed her arms over her chest. “Welcome to the party,” she said. Behind Carlos, there gathered a more ragtag group, the community of Night Vale, or what was left of us after so much of our town had been explained away. They glared at both Dr. Lubelle and Carlos, radiating hatred for the scientific method and all who practice such heresy.

(Bolding mine.) And then shortly later:

There were grumblings among the towns people, however. It seemed maybe they weren’t as convinced, when there was only one scientist on our side, and a horde of Dr. Lubelle’s minions in lab coats following her every evil word. Josh revved his engine in frustration. The Glow Cloud gusted and moaned. Dr. Lubelle sneered at us from affront her army, daring us to act.

(Bolding still mine.)

And I know they didn't forget about his team, earlier in the same episode Dr. Lubelle says:

Oh the attention you got for this so called discovery, nonsense though it was. You got headlines, you got grants, an entire research team for this fully funded expedition.

(Bolding continues to be mine.)

And like, maybe Dave and and Rochelle, part of Carlos's team of 5 investigating the House That Doesn't Exist that leads to the Desert Other World in episode 46 are no longer around, because it has been nine years in Night Vale and normal earth time, and 90 years in Desert Other World time. And sure, maybe Luisa and Mark defected to Dr. Lubelle's team for the prestige, or because they still think of themselves as University of What It Is researchers first and Night Vale residents second. And my copy of the book Welcome to Night Vale is paper so I can't check who "Stan" is, listed on the Wiki as one of Carlos's scientists.

But Nilanjana Sikdar cares too much about Science, Carlos, and Night Vale to turn her back on them. So where was she?

#Nilanjana Sikdar #Carlos the Scientist #Dr. Carlos Dave Robles #Dr. Janet Lubelle #Welcome to Night Vale #It Devours! #personal #thoughts #liveblogging stories #There's a chance the wiki is misinterpreting Dave's mention in episode 46 and that it's actually Dave Boll manager of the Ralphs #because both of these Dave's have prepared food. #And that would get our number of scientists reporting to Carlos down to 5 — matching the script of 46.

[juneofbones]

I feel as though all the recent arcs have involved something deeply personal and traumatic for Cecil, and the way there are still loose threads in each of them makes me wonder if this is all going to culminate into something bigger.

Janet Lubelle hurting Cecil’s friends, and exposing what his husband had been hiding from him. Kevin, promising to return, bringing with him more people and baggage. Cecil’s family, his issues with Abby, with his mother, with his father, with his memory. Owls.

Everything has to do with Cecil’s relationships with other people. And that can be the scariest mystery to face. The hardest antagonist.

#so scared for what’s to come. #plus storyline from the attic #wtnv 245 #welcome to night vale #wtnv #cecil palmer #kevin wtnv #dr janet lubelle #carlos the scientist #carlos robles #esteban palmer #abby palmer

[asydicsydney]

This was what she did for work? Girl, stay under that cow.

#wtnv #welcome to night vale #wtnv 230 #wtnv spoilers #dr janet lubelle #i saw one mention of this in someone's tags why are we not speaking of it #is it for the money gained from a cure you also made or sadism? #anyway. 10x worse than bbygirl Kevin who is coming back I'm so happy

[bulkhummus]

do you understand how this rewired my fucking brain ….. they were grad students together…….carlos cant remember decades…we were both trying to prove ourselves… lubelle will march over anything and anyone…… cecils swiss cheese brain ….

#everyone worried about carlos……. enough to go looking for him #im was trying to find connections between dr. kayali in 55 and janet #kayali knew carlos as a professor who disappeared on sabbitical #lubelle knew carlos as a fellow grad student #dr blake knows carlos as someone who made an impact long enough at the university that his portrsit was both hung and taken down #he also took over carlos’ role as lubelles right hand man (implied by cecil stating it ) #which means either carlos was not telling the full truth and extent of his relationship to lubelle (highly likely) #or its a time and memory weirdness #but i keep thinking about the line we were young and trying to prove ourselves…….. #it sounds so unnecessarily foreboding to me like whatd they get up to what did they do #that made carlos question her ethics #i bet they were rewarded for it #i bet it ate him up inside sitting atop of an achievement that was ethically shakey for years #until he has a break down and dips #also so egotisical that she sets up a campus in town lol and makes herself the dean #on top of sacred ground #kayali said he was gone for decades…… so funny how decades keep haunting carlos what does it mean what DOES IT MEAN #wtnv #welcome to night vale

[agnes-come-back-challenge]

I just realized this is probably the first time the public hasn't instinctively followed Cecil's lead. This is the man who managed to incite a mob to run a barber out of town for cutting Carlos' hair, and now he can't even convince them the enemy is Lubelle and not science

I wonder if he's trying desperately to pretend things are okay as people who used to be friendly faces are now acting colder to Carlos than they ever have (because even when he was new and unknown, they at least offered him a friendly "Interloper!")

Maybe Carlos is spending hours and hours in his lab because he knows Janet won't listen to anything except science, but when he finally leaves he's met with mistrustful glares and people snidely telling Cecil that maybe it'd be safer to raise Esteban as a single father. Or, worse: maybe on some days Janet is outside waiting for him, telling him she knows him, and she knows he's a better scientist than this. Maybe she tells him she misses when he actually cared about science, and that hurts worse than anything else because science is his whole life, and now he's stuck between a town he loves that considers him too much of a scientist to be worth loving back and a classmate he used to look up to who doesn't consider him a scientist at all

#wtnv #welcome to night vale #cecil palmer #carlos the scientist #wtnv spoilers #cecil gershwin palmer #dr janet lubelle #janet lubelle #the university of what it is

[the-worst-bracket]

Round 2D

#polls #saint charlos #dr janet lubelle #welcome to night vale #one piece #wtnv

[teartra]

Dr. Janet Lubelle’s VA did a great job because I really want to punch Janet Lubelle in the face

#dr janet lubelle #janet lubelle #wtnv #welcome to night vale #carlos explained

[bardinthezone]

I am... disappointed with the latest episode. It felt like the last episode had a very clear set up, it ended with Lubelle taking over the damn radio station, and then.... nothing? No real acknowledgement of how that got resolved? I was certain we were going to start with Lubelle, that they were going to do something really clever with the format, maybe start with an "explained" Cecil. But nope. Just business as usual. And Tamika becoming a bit of a wet blanket, the hefty shift away from a tactic that definitely worked in night vale's recent history. No Carlos other than "oUGhHHHHhHHhh my husband's a scientist, cmon guys don't ban science," and all this constant referencing to old plot points that I'm worried won't go anywhere!

This latest episode was unsatisfying because it seemed clear where the story would go and they veered completely into left field. And to be honest I'm less excited for later episodes now because they've shown they're willing to take the story in directions that don't really make for a great cohesive narrative? They set the stakes so high and then said "that doesn't matter" so now I don't feel invested with any of these new, lower stakes (because I'm sorry but "the character we've gotten no time with recently can't legally do science anymore" is no where near as compelling as "the voice of night vale has been kidnapped/explained and the whole show is in jeopardy").

Cluttered. This episode felt cluttered. It felt like they were trying to dangle a dozen different potential plot threads in front of us and as a result none of them really stuck the landing.

Except the extra hour in the ball pit

Fucking golden joke, A+

#it just.. bugged me #why on gods green earth did they do that??? #it doesnt make sense #im curious if there will be a “lubelle is defeated by something she cant explain” or if that was just a red herring #but yeah not super happy with this one lads #loved the sandwich bit though #and i am a bit worried for Josh #oh and the Song was a nice touch #although they did still refer to it as ''the weather'' in the ep description #i dont have much hope for a desert bluffs appearance though #i think theyre just trying to build tension by referencing popular imagery #what an ep #dr janet lubelle #cecil gershwin palmer #carlos the scientist #wtnv spoilers #wtnv 228 #wtnv #welcome to night vale

[wt-nv-quotes]

I’m sure you all have a lot of questions. Most everything in the world is questionable. Well, the good news is that we’re here to find answers. Answers to everything. Our job, as scientists, is to explain why everything is the way it is. There will be nothing left in Night Vale that does not have an exhaustive, perhaps even tedious, explanation.

#episode 212 #2022 #dr. janet lubelle #wtnv #welcome to night vale

[welcometohermitcraft]

I'm not sure if this is a thing that exists already but I NEED to see Dr. Janet Lubelle and Lauren Mallard girlbossing it up together (with the goal to exact revenge on Carlos and all of Night Vale of course)

#i know Lubelle would probably be a bit too normal for Lauren's madness #and i knkw theyre literally a dimension apart #and that Lubelle is probably dead #and that Lauren is currently doing some creepy cult shit all to fuck with Kevin #but just hear me out please #year 2 lauren and lubelle would be a powerhouse of capitalism and unethical science #wtnv #dr janet lubelle #janet lubelle #lauren mallard

[juneofbones]

All this talk about doubles and places being scientifically interesting makes me hope Kevin will make a return

#kill your double #KEVIN SAVE US #please babygirl I need your creepy and offputting vibe to save the day #kevin wtnv #welcome to night vale #wtnv #janet lubelle #dr lubelle #cecil gershwin palmer

[asydicsydney]

I don't think Lubelle is dead.

We're bringing up the 210 Horoscopes again because it's my favorite thing to bitch about

"Aquarius : You know that one lady who is running a years-long scam on you, carefully harvesting you for personal information that she will someday turn against you for her own profit? Oh you don’t? Well… heads up I guess."

Lubelle never explained anything about Cecil. She got science banned, but she never took down Carlos' true love...or his other love above science, Esteban, also an Aquarius.(When you listen to reason and not #223)

But we also have this: "Taurus: Someone you love will betray you. Or they won’t. One of those two things, it’s unclear which."

Knowing the end of Carlos, Explained now, what if this was tied to Kevin? Or Cecil in relation to Kevin? "One of those two things", maybe one betrays and the other doesn't, and it's unclear to the stars since they're doubles?

#wtnv #welcome to night vale #wtnv spoilers #carlos robles #dr janet lubelle #cecil palmer #may i dare mention my hit post about the 40th anniversary of the world ending being this year? #could be something to keep in mind as well #if finknor are cool and remember their lore #if not. we'll remember for them #please give us more crumbs of plot in the horoscopes it's really funny

[bulkhummus]

What I really enjoyed about this episode, despite it not being what we were all hoping for (and honestly, are we really surprised lmao) is the idea of Janet not getting what she wants. Even down to Jones being a nervous weasel standing behind her, still doing everything she's saying despite a mob on their doorstep.

I think there is potential for a really interesting narrative here of Janet never really being sure about something, and it driving her crazy. She has the supposed indescribable urge to explain, categorize, and make sense of anything in her immediate vicinity. She changes the words and definitions of things to her benefit in order for her to get the outcome she wants. What I love, is her not getting the satisfaction. Of never knowing undoubtedly with 100% certain the answer to something. There's just enough that doesn't add up. It reminds me of her explaining away station management, but she doesn't stop to question how the station has run without management for so long.

Josh Crayton is an interesting character for her to focus in on, because of what he can do. He can be anything, or anyone, at any given time. Right now, a lot of what Lubelle seems to be interested in is Dana's double, and doubles in general. It's what brought her to Night Vale in the first place. Now, I'm still on the fence of whether or not I want Carlos to save the town at all, quite frankly I don't even care that he hasn't done anything (because that keeps open a realm of opportunities about why even if I'd love for him to be mentioned or on the show) but right now it'd sure be interesting if he was working with Josh, Dana and Tamika. Josh can change his shape and his friends parent (the glow cloud (all hail) ) was murdered. Dana knows the town and how it works. Tamika has fought and protected the town and knows the value of knowledge. There is something there.

Carlos knew right from the start that Lubelle was coming and why. She announced it. He knows that the existence of doubles are real. He had lived with Cecil's for a decade. And if we are to assume that they had some kind of working relationship, after what Jones said about him in the diner, and what he said about Lubelle at the very beginning, she will not stop until she get what she wants. He knows this about her, and warned Cecil and the town. I have to think that if he got readily involved, Janet would have been keeping an eye on him no doubt. I have to think that him leaving and never coming back without explanation (assumably) is something that the University has never had an answer to. He is an open ended question for them, for her, for the town and for us as the listener. I am reminded of the line in 219 "Stay tuned next for the popular game show: “Who’s In My House?” where contestants try to understand strange voices and figures in the dark." After it is made known that Cecil is dealing with the frustrations of his town beginning to distrust his husband. Who exactly is living in his home? Who is the man he married really?

Carlos knows it must drive Lubelle insane. He knows the town not knowing things and his husband not knowing things, drives them insane. Right now, Carlos is taking advantage of an absence of knowledge, which is fun! And whether or not he ends up saving the day, the building suspense of him doing nothing is driving people crazy and really effective. Carlos is so completely off her radar, so thoroughly debunked and nonsensical to her, deemed a failure, that she's not even thinking about him actively being a threat to her being there.

Maybe he's looking at Tamika's ordinance of banning science in Night Vale as a saving grace. Maybe he doesn't want to be one anymore. Maybe he just wants to be Carlos. Maybe he left the university because he'd "gone soft and stopped caring" (episode 222) and was thrown into the exact role he was trying to escape from when he got to night vale. A scientist first, a person second.

I don't know if any of this makes sense, and I love Carlos and I'm angry that the show is not doing anything with the stakes they're raising but, I also can't help but sit and patiently wait. They waited ten years to give us some of Carlos' backstory. I can wait a little a longer to see what is to become of him.

I also can't wait to see the thing that breaks Janet. She can write off Cecil as a disturbed fool because it's a clear and concise answer that leaves little ambiguity. She can write off Carlos leaving and never coming back by deeming him a failure.

She's not interested in explaining anything.

She's interested in getting what she wants. She's interested in being right even if its by technicality. And what she seemingly wants is everything to be within her control. The idea of someone or something not doing what she expects might just be the thing to break her. I hope its Jones. I hope it's a Night Vale citizen. I hope its Carlos. Isn't it interesting that Josh is nowhere to be found, Dana's double story was conveniently forgotten (or genuinely, honestly) by Cecil on air, Tamika is banning science and Carlos hasn't been around from the beginning?

How do you beat someone who is in control? Isn't one way by making them think they still have all the power?

#this is my response to the episode #im just spitballing im just theorizing from thin air I think finknor need to make some bold choices and get a move on it #I do wish they'd've kidnapped cecil but #I wish it had been a voicemail episode #wtnv #welcome to night vale #wtnv spoilers #cecil palmer #carlos the scientist #janet lubelle #dr. Blake Jones #Dana Cardinal #Tamika Flynn #Josh Crayton #long post