#evangelion comparisons

[anthurak]

Shitty Parent vs. REALLY Shitty Parent

So I think this latest episode has finally given us a pretty good idea as to how Prospera Mercury and Delling Rembran act as dramatic foils to one another as the respective parents of our two main characters.

On the one hand, while it’s been hinted at ever since Episode 7, this episode confirms that Delling does genuinely care for his daughter underneath all that distant, aloof demeanor he’s always showing. We seem him in this episode take a proverbial bullet for Miorine at what was very nearly the cost of his own life, all while telling her to save herself.

And on the flipside, this episode also seems to have given us a hint of the true scope of what seems to be Prospera’s manipulation of Suletta. How despite the open care and affection Prospera shows Suletta, it’s clear that she’s also been manipulating and grooming Suletta into becoming an outright killing machine who brutally cuts down her enemies without batting an eye. To the point where it even seems like Prospera may have even subjected Suletta to outright psychological conditioning and indoctrination, given how Suletta bounces back from a major traumatic breakdown once Prospera said a certain phrase to her.

Now this isn’t to say something like ‘Psyche! Delling was actually a good parent all along and it’s PROSPERA who was the terrible parent!’. Delling is still absolutely a shitty father, plus it’s been pretty clear that Prospera wasn’t going to be a ‘good’ parent given how she’s acted shady as fuck basically from day one, particularly is you read the Star Cradle short story.

Rather, what I think we’re seeing here is that rather than the full-blown antagonistic, villainous ‘Big Bad’ parent he may have been initially set up as, Delling is more simply the ‘dysfunctional’ variety of shitty parent. IE; the kind who’s always loved and cared deep down for their child but has never been able to show it due to their own baggage/trauma/ego.

Essentially, Delling seems to have a lot in common with Gendo Ikari, complete with a tragic dead wife.

In contrast, in we’re continuing the Evangelion parallels, then Prospera could be likened to one of the darker interpretations of YUI, as the protagonists mother who acts loving and caring but is actually the true mastermind behind everything in the story. Not to mention if Eri really is in Aerial, it would basically be the Unit 01 situation just flipped on its head.

Or put another way if we look at a previous work of G-Witch’s writer: Delling is a subversive take on Charles Zi Britannia who turns out to not actually be the big bad, and Prospera is a take on Marianne who’s allowed to ACTUALLY BE the big bad.

Basically, both Delling Rembran and Prospera Mercury are shitty parents. The key difference is that Delling is the ultimately more benign ‘dysfunctional, stoic distant father who sucks at feelings but does genuinely want his daughter to be safe deep down’. Meanwhile Prospera represents the much more concerning case of ‘basically a cult leader who’s used her open care and affection to damn-near brainwash her daughter in being an actual killing machine’.

#gundam #gundam witch from mercury #g-witch #g-witch analysis #Suletta Mercury #Miorine Rembran #Prospera Mercury #delling rembran #evangelion comparisons #code geass comparisons #why delling rembran is a shitty parent #and why prospera is a WAY MORE shitty parent

[cemeterything]

my personal white whale is this fanart i once saw of asuka on the beach at the end of end of evangelion, except the person strangling her is also asuka, and she reaches up and touches her own bandaged cheek, just below her missing eye, and it's seared into the backs of my eyelids because the imagery and themes drive me out of my mind, but i have no idea if it's even a real piece of fanart i once saw or if i just dreamt it

#🐉 #was trying to make a parallels comparison between the terror episode 9 and end of evangelion but it didnt work #however it did remind me of this

[riderlimited]

Neon Genesis Evangelion (1995)

Evangelion Store Tokyo-01 11th Anniversary (2022)

#evangelion #remake comparison

[currentlyembracingthevoid]

I'm listening to Harrow the ninth and the resurrection beasts are finally kinda being described and all I can think of is the angels from nge

#lets see if that comparison holds up long-term #harrow the ninth #locked tomb #neon genesis evangelion #harrow the ninth spoilers

[ak800]

Watching Neon Genesis Evangelion is like

[Ignoring the sexism]

[Enjoying deep and throughtful world building]

[Ignoring the sexism]

[Enjoying themes regarding the human mind when faced with the unpredictability of life]

[Ignoring the sexi- wait is this an anti-sexism metaohor????]

[Nvm back to ignoring the sexism]

#neon genesis evangelion #This is to be taken very lighthearted #I do enjoy the show a lot!!!! #And esp. in comparison to other media the show actually isnt that bad on the sexism #Still #Half of the scenes featuring female characters have them stripping for some reason.... #This is esp. true for #asuka langley soryu #misato #rei ayanami #And well... those are the female main characters so..... ye

[karizard-ao3]

I'm watching NGE again with the original English dub and it really changes the vibe of some scenes a lot! I believe some of the translation choices are quite different. I couldn't pick out exact examples but there were a few parts where I was like, "Oh, I don't think that's the same."

Oh, wait! I did think of an example. In the original (ADV, right?) dub, Shinji actually says Misato stole the batteries. In the Netflix dub, he just infers it.

I think Misato is a bigger sex pest in this version lol. I like her VA, though. She gives Misato a very roguish, messy flair. I like both performances, though. I do find Ritsuko far more likable in the orginal dub. I think I prefer the Netflix dub for Shinji, though.

#neon genesis evangelion #evangelion #just commenting #I'm not doing a whole second watch thing #I will maybe bring up some observations though #shinji ikari #misato katsuragi #ritsuko akagi #dub comparison

[kushanna]

episode 2: unfamiliar ceiling

#neon genesis evangelion #nge #misato katsuragi #oldanimeedit #90s #nge* #i'm pretty sure someone else has made a post with this exact same comparison before?? i can't find it tho?? #props to the person who thought of it first but i can't find the post so i'm making my own

[shodansbabygirl]

the way it just looks worse <3

#evangelion posting #just realized that im going to NEED to download some shit if i want to get good comparison shots #its just too annoying to screen grab a webstream

[themattress]

Time is a wonderful thing, as it allows perceptions to evolve and clarify things that weren’t clear at the time for many, even if some “got it” from the start. Thus is the case with the first season of Love Live Sunshine! and especially its finale, which is something I have always cherished. I already knew that the season itself was controversial way back in the day of 2016 because people thought it was just recycling µ’s’ story from the original Love Live and didn’t realize until later that it was always meant to be a huge subversion and deconstruction of that story and of school idols in general, taking a lot of the fantastic glamor out of it with some hard-edged realism and then ultimately re-adding it through Aqours’ journey of self-discovery and self-actualization. What I didn’t learn until recently was that the culmination of this, the season finale, was in of itself controversial even among those who otherwise loved the season because of the above video footage: a drawn-out skit recapping Aqours’ whole story throughout the season and, following their requisite big musical number that wasn’t even the one that many fans expected, an abrupt ending that resolved nothing plot-wise.

Once again, this was missing the entire point. As I've seen many people now note, the first season of Sunshine! wasn't about resolving plot. Unlike the original series, its plot threads would carry into Season 2 and receive more focus there instead of just having another plot. And unlike the original series' first season, where the story was about "save the school and achieve your idol dreams!", this story was rooted in something deeper. All the girls in µ’s were more or less fine with who they were, but they had a desire inside to do something big and special, and fate brought them together so that they could do so. All the girls in Aqours, otoh, were not fine with who they were and were plagued with feelings of insecurity or inadequacy, and they attempted to use doing something big and special - "save the school and achieve your idol dreams!" - as a means of remedying that. The point of the season's story and their character development is learning that this won't work and instead they need to embrace themselves for who they are, warts and all. That's why the "0" factor and desire to turn that 0 into a 1 is such a huge deal, it's why the skit letting everyone know exactly who they are and showing all they've been through and all their vulnerability is needed, and it's why the ending isn't a plot resolution but the nine girls happy and confident in themselves and their ability to shine as themselves, as Aqours. It ends the story this season was telling on the perfect note.

....Oh my God, wait. Is Sunshine!’s first season finale the Evangelion finale of our time!?

#Love Live #Love Live Sunshine #Evangelion #Ending #Finale #Analysis #Fandumb #Stupidity #Defense #Truthbomb #Comparison

[beevean]

It's great how you can already get an idea of a character's personality just from the little details of where they live:

Both Misato and Rei's apartments are a total mess but with the former's you can see that it's actually a nice place but Misato simply can't be arsed to clean it, pointing to a very messy, chaotic personality that really doesn't suit someone who is supposed to watch over a kid

Rei's on the other hand is small,barely decorated, mostly only has the bare essentials and she even leaves the door open, pointing to Rei having a very detatched and uncaring attitude to her own livelihood and sense of self worth, like she just keeps on living because she has to not because she wants to.

The visuals in NGE are a masterpiece in artstyle, scenes set up, and visual storytelling such as these details :)

Misato's... lifestyle screams to me "depressed person trying way too hard to put on a cheerful façade". She eats nothing but junkfood and drinks cans and cans of beer? She constantly oversleeps? She lets Shinji do most of the housework? There is laziness, and then there's depression. And this is Evangelion :^)

Rei's apartment isn't even barely decorated: it looks like it's falling apart. There is absolutely zero care put into it. It's the same care Rei has towards herself.

#neon genesis evangelion #misato katsuragi #rei ayanami #odd comparison maybe #but i'm reminded of sayori from ddlc #who also appeared super cheerful and like the stereotypical ditzy friend #before it's revealed she actually suffers from severe depression and self-loathing #so that's why misato is already ringing warning bells in my head

[darabeatha]

/ L.ucifer being as big as a ship (can be even bigger than that or shrink much more, it depends) and holding ur muse in the palm of his hand and all u can see are huge blinding red eyes

#;l.ucifer #as tall as a ship if u put it vertically; in fact he could grow even bigger #but to give a size comparison #and u cant go anywhere else bc if u fell from the palm of his hand; the fall would be so high #its like the big s.auron eye: but make it two; but like just imagine the size of a single eye that would be huge #in fact i think u wouldn't be able to see the entirety of his face from how big he is #u can touch his eyeballs too; the slit pupils being so dark and big it feels like ur entering through a gate #like its consuming; do you dare to walk in? #if u walk through his pupil; who knows where it'll guide you? its a mystery #his size changes at his own will so he could shrink down more; at least so u could see his face #I'm remembering that one huge r.ei from evangelion; #;headcanons #headcanons

[maoosiaziazao]

I'm just crazy, aren't I?

#touchy feely fool #end of evangelion #comparison

[also-fours]

super smash bros is toy story if it was directed by hideaki anno

#super smash bros #...i havent seen evangelion but i know enough to know that im not incredibly wrong by making that comparison

[kociamieta]

Out of the scale of 1 to 10 which version/interpretations of angels look horrifying or majestic?

1. Bayonetta Angels

2. Evangelion Angels

3. Diablo Angels

4. Legion Angels

5. Classic Bible Accurate Angels

6. Angelerium Angels

8. DOOM angels

7. Ultrakill Angels

8. The Woodsprite and Death from Guillermo Del Toro's Pinnochio

9. Dark Souls Angels

10. Shin Megamei Tensei Angels

anon i'm afraid i'm unfamiliar with like, 70% of these. so i can't "rate" them other than based on their looks. instead of a scale of 1 to 10 you're getting my thoughts on their designs as i am notoriously bad at Ranking Things. and some babbling overall. enjoy

starting off with Bayonetta angels. Holy shit. the range.... monster-looking ones? humanoids? ships??? cars????? the flesh inside those gold and marble shells??? love them, quite horrifying and majestic at once.

Evangelion! cool stuff. always love some strange organic shapes for angels, and the very geometric ones are pretty interesting as well

Diablo. i like the tendril-like wings. the lack of a visible face is pretty cool as well..

i... i'm assuming you're talking about the 2010 movie "Legion". no comment on this one.

i'm not really sure what "Classic Bible Accurate Angels" would entail. if you're pedantic enough, you can argue that the cherubim and ophanim in Ezekiel's vision aren't exactly "angels" in the literal sense of the word. malakim/messengers/angels could appear as pretty much human. either way, the celestial being category is quite fascinating

my jaw dropped when i saw the Angelarium website. the designs?? the drawings themselves???? the writing as well. obsessed with this???? hello....... Definitely quite majestic

DOOM. huh. that's a pretty interesting looking alien behind that armor. i'm assuming the angel comparison works in the game's context

ULTRAKILL! yay! Gabriel and the Council's armor are pretty cool, and i like the virtues too (their concept art is so good!!!). hope we get to see more angels in the future.

ahhhhg they're both so cool. love how Death is a sphynx. i can't tell if they're exactly supposed to be angels (saw the Woodsprite called a "fairy" somewhere?), but the motifs are so good regardless

Dark Souls. ojh wow. i think these are the most disturbing on this list, i love them. taking organic shapes to another level.... they remind me of mycelia.... huge win for horrifying angel nation

i wasn't really sure what to focus on with Shin Megami Tensei. the angel enemy itself (poor thing went through a lot, design wise)? the divine demon class as a whole (a... lot of characters to look at)? so i went with the archangels. their SMT IV versions are great, the ornate and quite organic-looking shapes put them on the majestic end of the spectrum for me

#ask #angel #my art #body horror #<-just in case. thanks dark souls

[tyrantisterror]

I've seen Utena and Evangelion get compared to each other for both being 1. dark coming of age stories that get increasingly surreal as time goes on and 2. supposedly deconstructing their respective genres. And I think there's a good basis for comparison in there, definitely, and they've both become anime I've made a point to revisit because they struck a very strong chord with me.

I think what gets me when comparing them, though, is that Utena gets to do what Evangelion sets up but never managed to finish - and some people inexplicably criticize Utena for it?

Cause Evangelion was clearly meant to be a longer series. They establish early on that there are eight Evas and eight teenage pilots for them. In the series itself we see four - well, five, technically, since an angel posing as a human named Kaworu tricks everyone into letting him pilot an eva, but still. There three side character teenagers introduced early, one of which pilots an eva (to disastrous results) while the other two remain supporting cast. It's possible they were intended to eventually be eva pilots too, but it's also possible the mystery pilots might have been foreignors like Asuka.

Either way, it's clear the story was meant to become bigger, but because of various behind the scenes reasons it didn't - it ultimately remains focused primarily on Shinji, Gendo (the true antagonist), Asuka, Rei, and to a lesser extent, Misato. And don't get me wrong, that still makes for an incredibly engaging show - I wouldn't trade any of the episodes and scenes focused on those cast members for the world, the depth to which those characters are explored is a huge part of what makes the series meaningful for me.

But Utena, while being a similarly character-focused series, does get to expand its scope in the way Evangelion set up but never paid off. The cast of Utena does get larger, and while the focus remains primarily on Utena, Anthy, the true antagonist Dio, and to a lesser extent Touga and Nanami, it finds time to shine the spotlight on a very rich supporting cast of characters. The Black Rose arc in particular is great for this, because it gives the supporting cast members introduced in the first arc - Juri, Miki, Nanami, garbage boy Saionji, and Wakaba - their own arcs and, in many cases, their own relationships with characters outside of Utena and Anthy's direct orbit. The lives and relationships of all these characters become really rich and interesting, with their own quirks and problems to overcome.

And, like, I've seen some people say this is a flaw - that these are "filler" episodes, that you can skip the Black Rose arc entirely, and it's baffling to me. The way all of these characters interplay with each other, how their struggles and arcs mirror and complement each other, is what makes the world and story of Utena so rich. It's still about Utena and Anthy in the end, but Utena and Anthy's arc is also made so much more meaningful by how it reflects the arcs of everyone around them - that ultimately all these characters are sharing facets of the same struggle, and if there's hope for Utena and Anthy at the end (and there is, especially in the movie), then there's hope for all these characters and, indeed, everyone in the audience who sympathized with them.

One thing that'll plague my imagination till the end of my days is the concept of what Evangelion would be if it could have broadened its scope the way they originally planned, and the way Utena broadens the scope of its narrative only fuels that wonder more. I'd kill to see Evangelion's Black Rose arc, and I'm so glad Utena got to have its world grow.

#Valentines with Utena

[maggiecheungs]

“utena is a bit like a shoujo equivalent of evangelion” = a common and inevitable comparison that is admittedly not a bad elevator pitch, giving an idea of utena's symbolism and the genre tropes it engages without requiring an essay-length summary of its plot and themes

“utena is evangelion for the girlies” = SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UPPPP

#utena #revolutionary girl utena #rgu #shoujo kakumei utena #do NOT girldinnerify utena ffs #the whole show is literally designed to deconstruct the concept of 'the girlies'!!! #also yes it engages with shoujo themes and its main characters are female but it's not exclusively for women??? #utena has a large cult following consisting of people of all genders 😭 #like. i get 'for the girlies' has become a funny tiktok meme or whatever but . #maybe don't apply 'jokey gender essentialist stereotypes' to the 'gender stereotypes are a destructive tool of patriarchal violence' show #neon genesis evangelion #evangelion #ellistxt #hmmmm should i rewatch nge next