#fe3h eastern church

[quillfulwriter]

Look, Rhea is a tragic figure. I feel for her. Her trauma at the hands of Nemesis and the Agarthans is vast, and the slaughter in Zanado is completely unforgivable.

But until she's healed from that trauma and doesn't blame all of humanity for that nightmare, there's absolutely no reason she should be in charge of anything. Much less the very people she resents.

The Empire was created when the Church named Wilhelm its emperor, and the Kingdom is literally called the Holy Kingdom of Faerghus because it was founded by the Church as well. It's only by looking at the Alliance where you can see how the commoners especially feel about the Church's practices when they haven't been indoctrinated.

When the priest from The Eastern Church is trying to stress how they're different from the Central Church, he says:

Their church doesn't have an order of knights.

They don't believe in using force to chastise believers.

A noble house keeps order in their territory, and they have forbidden the use of any soldiers, even for self-defense.

You can reverse engineer these to describe how they see the Central Church in Leicester: Militant, violent towards its followers, and deceitful (claiming self-defense as a shield for its violent ways).

This is correct. The Church has a standing army and a school used to train child soldiers. It punishes criminals with execution more often than not. And it actively warps major events to make people see them in a certain light.

Yes, Rhea chose to keep the peace rather than openly hating humanity. That's not exactly a kindness when she 1) makes sure most people are reliant on the church for basic needs 2) restricts access to education based on who she can control (nobles vs. commoners) 3) bans advances in technology like the printing press so she can more easily prohibit the spread of knowledge and 4) creates clones and experiments on babies.

I understand she is traumatized. I understand she is in pain and trying to protect her people from another slaughter. But the simple fact is she's not even doing that well, because she's refused to heal. Everything she does against the Agarthans is basically whack-a-mole, and she only ever punishes who they manipulated.

Hubert found TWSD in 10 years! She's had centuries! I can't even say he's healed from his trauma to make that happen, but at least he directed it to something practical that got results. So no one would suffer like he had.

But Rhea? She's content to punish and oppress humanity for being manipulated by the Agarthans. Meanwhile, TWSD experiments on children too and the Church does nothing. When Lysithea and Edelgard are the sole survivors of murky circumstances, one would think that the Church would get involved. Even for aid. But no. They had their chance to make this right, and they chose to turn a blind eye.

I cannot rightly believe that she really cares about human beings when she treats the people most loyal to her so horribly. Even Seteth! She's telling Catherine to burn down a city with people inside in the Black Eagles route, she's never once tried to get anyone to teach Cyril to read and write (Seteth was the only one interested in doing that for him), and she hid all of her atrocities from Seteth because she knew that what she was doing was wrong.

Her compassion as the archbishop ultimately comes from a place of indoctrination and control. Understandable though it may be because of what she experienced, it's still wrong. And she shouldn't be in charge of anything because of that.

#rhea critical #church of seiros #fe3h spoilers #spoilers #my meta #my analysis #leicester alliance #fe3h eastern church #fe3h central church #fe cyril #hubert von vestra #lysithea von ordelia #edelgard von hresvelg #seteth #saint cichol #fe catherine #tw trauma #cw trauma #tw death #cw death #tw exploitation #cw exploitation #tw experimentation #cw experimentation #fire emblem #fe3h discourse #fe3h

[coucou-art]

may I introduce to you:

Hans von Nilsson, protector of the Eastern Church, founder of the new Nilsson Academy of Military Sciences, and Carina‘s fabulous boss. Since there‘s so little known about him, I kinda claimed this canon FE3H character for myself lol

he still holds a grudge against duke Oswald von Riegan for enrolling his grandson to the central church‘s Officers Academy, his biggest competitor, instead of his own.

now he‘s trying to expand his business by agreeing into a temporary collaboration with the Officers Academy to advertise his innovative military approaches (and win some students for himself) (Carina has to do all that work as his representative) (she will beat his ass for pissing off and leaving her with their work behind at Garreg Mach)

#fe3h #fire emblem #fire emblem three houses #fe3h oc #fire emblem oc #oc #oc carina #hans von nilsson

[claudevonrieganstan]

I can't pick any of the fe3h questions but I also don't want to say all of them so just pick three that you want to answer

hahaha, ok!! <3 <3

12. favorite activity (tea, fishing)?: I like eating meals with people :)

16. what class would you be if you went to garreg mach?: mage class!! i'd follow the gremory route :) (also confirmed bc lysithea has chronic fatigue & fainting and so do i so this is proof magic class is good for spoonies)

20. unpopular opinion?: I'm using this to hit everyone with a long post and a Hot Take, which is that I think the Verdant Wind route is the True Good Ending of the game. Most people think Azure Moon is, or that Verdant Wind is weak and just a throw away kind of route story wise. I disagree!! and I think the themes present in VW are the ones that lead to the best kind of world for Fodlan.

I also think that VW being the only route where you fight Nemesis isn't some weird oversight on Silver Snow's part, but confirmation that VW is the best ending. A big part of that path is digging out Fodlan's corruption from the roots (the characters have many lines about this, and about the history of the country vs the history they'll be creating; this is also why we have Lorenz the way he is, as a foil to Claude. Old conceptions of nobility vs new possibilities). So having the final battle be the current heroes fighting against the undead 10 Elite is very symbolic of that. The main problem isn't Edelgard. It isn't the church, it isn't even really the Agarthans. The main problem is Fodlan's history. Fodlan's rotten system. Many of these heroes are descended from the 10 Elite, and I love that they are the ones to say no, we will not praise you anymore for your dominance, we will strike you down with the same weapons that you used to take power and to build this unjust world. I also don't think it's a coincidence that VW has the highest number of commoner students (especially when you include Cyril, and consider why he's majorly involved in VW).

At the end of VW, the Kingdom has been razed and the Empire has been brought down. But this isn't where we end, bc Leicester isn't free from it's rotten past either. Leicester is the area that is most hostile to Almyrans after all. So before we celebrate the end, Nemesis comes out from the eastern section of Leicester and cuts through it before getting to Garreg Mach. At the end here all 3 parts of Fodlan have been destroyed, ready to build anew from the ashes, after they go all the way down to the roots and tear them out. I also love the thought that Nemesis never really was killed, he was stored away (potentially the same situation with the Elites). The problems and systems they created were never destroyed by Rhea or by the Empire or anyone else. They were just dormant underground the entire country, the whole time. And having Claude, a mixed race man and an initial foreigner to Fodlan, lead this route into his new dawn is smart too. It takes someone who is invested, but was raised outside Fodlan, to be the one who's curious about finding answers, who's questioning not just the church system but the country's value system as well. It takes him to finally be able to see the problems below. And at the end, the doors of Fodlan do open to the outside world. They're healing, reaching their hands out and choosing to rebuild into a better future.

#ok u didn't ask for an essay but that's what we have here #also hiiiiii <3 #jchall110 #Verdant Wind #Claude von Riegan #i have in my head like. a video essay on this that maybe i'll make or write some day haha #using lots of in game evidence #and comparing & contrasting it to the other routes #ppl always say VW is just a copy of SS #and if anything to me it always feels the other way around #SS feels really half baked and the themes are all over the place to me #ANYWAY sorry for the word dump

[beezonia]

I can’t stop thinking about a fe3h cuphead au.

Like, shez and her twin brother Shen are cuphead and mugman respectively and end up getting caught in a deal with the ashen demons rulers of hell under inkwell isle.

So with the help of Lady Rhea of Gareg Mach and her league of Seiros they have to collect the souls of the three gangs that reside on the different islands.

The blue lions - The Northen isles

Leader - Dimitri

His battle is called “The Two faced tournament” and he changes from pre to post skip Dimitri in three sections of the battle.

You have proper noble Dimitri first, then the slightly feral Dimitri and finally absolutely insane Dimitri at the end.

It’s set in like a snowy mountain type landscape idk.

To face him you have to defeat each member in any order (apart from Dedue cause he has to protect Dimitri from the twins)

The Golden Deer - Eastern Isles

Leader - Claude.

His battle is named “The storm of torment/Arrow of the verdant sky” you face him in a oasis sort of area and his three phases are like him and his bow shaping into different weapons.

And finally

The black eagles - The southern isles

Leader - Edelgard

Her battle is named “The Hegemon husks final dance or The Eagles fallen solider” you face her slowly turning into her hegemon form each phase and she utterly destroys her own weapons in the battle.

Now before they face the Ashen Demons you first have to flight the now known as Church of Seiros before you can get to the twins due to Rhea needing them to stay alive to keep Sothis safe.

#fe3h au #edelgard von hresvelg #dimitri alexandre blaiddyd #claude von reigen #the black eagles #blue lions #black eagles #golden deer #fe3h byleth #byleth eisner #cuphead au #hubert von vestra #dedue molinaro #hilda valentine goneril

[ac-liveblogs]

on the fe3h wiki’s church of seiros page, and - 

are they referring to a) that one time rhea had to deal with the western church trying to assassinate her or b) that one time seteth had to protect his wife’s GRAVE from being forcibly seized by a rebel faction 

i await the answer with bated breath

#ac plays fe3h #or the time it did NOTHING to the eastern or southern churches? #just curious #i have never found such a useless biased wiki

[butwhatifidothis]

Question, do you think FE3H could've gotten a lot of its point with the Church across better had there been multiple Archbishops besides Rhea? Like, have Rhea be the Archbishop of the Central Church, and then have Archbishops for the Western and Eastern Churches as well, and then the Archbishop of the Southern Church is either gone or stuck at Garreg Mach. It could've helped draw some of the fandom's ire away from Rhea, and would've helped emphasize that the Central Church can only do so much to fix things when the rest of the continent is a mess.

Personally? Doooon't really think it'd help much tbh.

Cuz like, unless all the Archbishops were named, important characters of 3H, they'd just be forgettable no-names. which Edelstans would then use as evidence that Rhea is still the "head of the Church." May be a bit uncharitable of me to assume they'd do that, but these are also the same folk that make the arguments that the Church both 1) doesn't respect the sovereignty of the three nations by continually meddling in their affairs and 2) never helps the other three nations of its own accord.

Never mind the fact that Church does respect the sovereignty of the nations by only helping out - which it does do, regularly - when asked to... those are two inherently contradictory statements. "This institution tramples on the sovereignty of Fodlan's nations by... giving aid to them. Specifically when asked to. But also they never give aid in the first place."

Plus, Rhea would still be Nabatean, and Edelstans genuinely don't believe they have a right to rule over the people in any way. Rhea still being Archbishop, even if just an Archbishop of many, would still rile these people up simply because she's Nabatean. And that's not me just throwing shit at them either! They literally say it themselves that this is one of the main reasons they have an issue with Rhea being in charge of anything. They think "Oh well she can live a long time therefore she can't be trusted with any power at all ever." To hell with not saying a race should be disallowed from having positions of power, "they're not human so it doesn't count."

Plus, Edelgard is the main one painting Rhea in a bad light. She's the one that calls her a creature, a monster, part of the enemy that's plagued humanity, vile, cruel, someone who has no depth she wouldn't sink to - putting in a few more Archbishops wouldn't fix the narrative focus of Rhea being a villain for CF players. And since she's the one being given the most focus (which she still would be even with more Archbishops, because she's Nabatean and Edelgard hates Nabateans), Edelstans would still throw all their ire at her

#ask #exqueuese me princess #anti edelgard #anti-edelgard #edelgard critical #just to be safe #like could it give the Rhea positive side more fuel to work with? maybe #but imo there'd still be an IMMENSE amount of hatred for Rhea just because of how 3H (namely CF) is otherwise structured

[apoxiah]

𝚅 .      𝚃𝙷𝚁𝙴𝙴   𝙷𝙾𝚄𝚂𝙴𝚂.      /      fe3h   au.

takumi,   born   in   the   far   eastern   land   of   hoshido,      is   the   second   prince   of   hoshido.   his   elder   siblings,   ryouma   and   hinoka,   serve   as   honorary   knights   of   seiros   as   they   act   as   liaisons   between   archbishop   rhea,   the   foreign   nobles   and   queen   mikoto.   there   is   a   longstanding   relationship   between   the   church   and   the   first   king   of   hoshido,   anankos.   all   members   of   the   royal   family   bear   the   crest   of   hoshido.   it   grants   the   user   to   manipulate   natural   energy   and   terraform   entire   masses   of   land.   in   battle,   it   manifests   differently   in   each   royal.   takumi’s   element   is   wind,   allowing   him   to   hit   any   shot,   even   with   low   visibility   or   accuracy.   the   frequency   of   this   crest   in   the   royals   of   hoshido,   unheard   of   in   fodlan,   partially   attributes   to   the   longstanding   peace   in   hoshido.   however,   tensions   are   high   between   hoshido   and   its   neighbor,   nohr.   there   is   a   peace   treaty,   preventing   total   war   from   erupting,   enacted   after   the   deaths   of   queen   ikona   and   later,   the   assassination   of   king   sumeragi   and   kidnapping   of   his   older   sibling,   kamui.

i   should   note   that   regarding   the   treaty,      it   exists   because   as   a   kingdom,   hoshido   was   not   in   an   operative   state   as   to   launch   an   offensive   over   the   unforgiving   nohrian   lands.   with   the   loss   of   their   king   and   queen,   crown   prince   ryouma   only   a   teenager   at   the   time,   they   were   at   a   complete   disadvantage.   hence,   why   mikoto,   a   renowned   priestess   herself,   utilized   her   own   magical   prowess,   and   that   of   hoshido’s   most   talented,   to   erect   a   barrier   to   prevent   nohrian   intrusion.   many   in   hoshido   sought   revenge   but   it   was   an   untenable   battle,   hence   the   grating   tensions   between   the   neighboring   lands.

he   and   his   younger   sister,   sakura,   enroll   in   the   academy      as   foreign   exchange   students.   they   both   originally   join   the   blue   lions   class,   the   nohrians   joining   the   black   eagles.   they   can   be   recruited   into   any   class,   although   it   takes   much   more   effort   to   recruit   both   siblings   into   the   black   eagles.   throughout   part   one,   takumi   establishes   a   strong   camaraderie   with   dimitri,   mercedes,   felix   and   a   rivalry   with   claude.   he   looks   after   sakura,   who   becomes   fast   friends   with   annette.   he   has   cross - class   supports   with   caspar,   dorothea,   claude,   shamir   and   manuela.

his   roster   stats   are   as   follows :

+ + :      bows,   flight,   swords + :      lances + / - :      brawling,   axes,   faith - :      riding - - :      reason,   heavy   armor

interests :      reading,   target   practice

likes :      cleanliness,   historical   fiction,   playing   with   children,   hunting,   strategy   games,   miso   soup dislikes:      defeat,   teasing,   overly   sweet   treats,   stuffy   functions,   absentmindedness,   nightmares

following   the   attack   on   garreg   mach,      the   four   hoshidan   siblings   return   to   hoshido   and   allow   fodlan   to   sort   out   its   own   political   fallout.   within   the   five   years,   war   erupts   in   hoshido   as   well   after   the   murder   of   queen   mikoto.   assume   that   the   events   of   revelations   occur   within   this   time   period   and   by   the  end   of   the   war,   kamui   is   crowned   leader   of   valla,   xander   of   nohr   and   ryouma   of   hoshido.   with   their   own   conflicts   resolved   and   order   reestablished,   the   siblings   of   both   nations   look   towards   fodlan   again,   five   years   later.   if   he   joined   byleth’s   class,   takumi   will   return   to   fodlan   to   reunite   with   his   classmates.   

his   paralogue,   uniquely,   must   be   completed      before   its   due  date.   if   left   incomplete,   takumi   will   no   longer   be   a   playable   unit.   anankos,   having   previously   embedded   his   presence   into   takumi’s   subconscious,   manipulating   his   own   inferiority   complex   and   intrusive   thoughts,   eventually   overtakes   him.   he   disappears   into   the   night   and   must   be   rescued   from   his   own   demons.   it’s   anankos’   final   ploy   and   the   invisible   army   is   raised   for   a   final   time.   completion   awards   the   fuujin  yumi   and   the   hoshidan   royal   archers   as   a   battalion.   dimitri   must   be   brought   into   this   battle   and   has   special   dialogue   with   takumi,   as   do   all   of   his   siblings.   

the   only   paired   ending   i’ve   discussed      is   with   @blaimed‘s   dimitri.   after   the   war,   takumi   relocates   to   fodlan   to   act   as   a   liaison   for   king   ryouma.   he   lives   in   faerghus,   working   with   dimitri   as   an   adviser.   using   the   reforms   and   methods   of   reconstruction   from   the   hoshidan   monarchy,   he   works   to   stabilize   the   region.   it’s   difficult   work   and   faerghus   is   unforgiving,   in   its   temperature   and   and   unerring   traditions,   but   he   views   it   as   a   challenge   which   he   alone   can   overcome.

#three houses verse. #anyways i finally finished typing it out but hello!!!! #3h mutuals! make sure to specify if you want pre or post timeskip interactions heh

[arcanaaa]

FE3H headcanon that @liarcharme and I discussed but regarding the Almyra (Almyrain? Almyran? Idk leave me alone) language has several branches of dialect--- Cana’s specific dialect is derived from her tribe that is closest to the mountainous range of Fodlan’s Throat. She doesn’t have a noticable accent whenever she speaks common Fodlan, or the commoner’s tongue, but occassionally she’ll slip back to speaking Almyran whenever she is in the company of Claude, Cyril or anyone else who is noticably from the Almyran Kingdom. She would speak to them in casual conversation, eventually becoming more and more comfortable speaking the language of her people and delighting in shit talking the Church, the Monks or Priets and the Knights of Seiros whenever the mood would strike her. She would learn to be proud of her mother tongue and would make a point to speak more freely, especially after the 5 year timeskip.

It should also be noted that whenever Cana becomes stressed, excited or angry, her accent will slip without her noticing. She’s trained herself from a young age to hide her accent, espeically while in the custody of the Eastern Church. It was a matter of safety and necessity to disguise her accent and while she wasn’t spared being bullied by the other orphans at the Church, she knew she would have endured far worse if she did not take these steps to protect herself. As she grew older, she would default to speaking the common tongue whenever she would discuss busness with potential clients and the like, but otherwise she wouldn’t talk unless it was necessary until after she enrolled into the officers academy.

#█ ▌ ╰ ☾ ╮ ┆ 「headcanon.」 #█ ▌ ╰ ☾ ╮ ┆ AU「verse: FE3H.」

[demon-lord-bleh]

FE3H: Map Analysis

As others have pointed out, (barring Byleth) the only characters to have crests are those who’s names appear on the map

And, with the formal introduction of Ferdinand von Aegir, that trend continues

However, that’s not all the map has to offer. We also get to see what are, presumably, the main three’s crests

If each character with a crest is descended from one of the 10 Great Heroes, then its likely each house will have three crest bearers (Byleth being the 10th)

Anyways I’m gonna guess the (presumably) last Black Eagle on the map will have either Remire, Arundel, or Gaspard as a surname

Also on the map are the Western and Eastern Churches

We’ve seen the Western Church before, or more specifically,

We’ve seen Caspar decking a priest a Western Church Soldier

But as of yet, we don’t know much about either

Are they extensions of the Church of Seiros, or are they independent? If they’re independent do they have conflict with each other? With the Church of Seiros?

I think there’s a lot of potential to do something interesting here

And finally, on a completely unrelated note,

Rome’s here and, contrary to popular belief, all roads DO NOT lead there

We can’t actually say for sure if that’s Rome, but a girl can dream

#fire emblem three houses #fe3h #fe16 #pre-release #fire emblem

[devilsbrought]

FE3H verse notes:

Nero is from Fortuna, the island off the eastern coast of the Adrestian Empire near Aegir and Rusalka. He’s born during the Imperial Year 1161 and is 19 during the pre-timeskip events.

Fortuna is separate from the belief system in Fodlan in that it worships Sparda, an ancient hero they believe was present during the time of the Ten Elites and was actually part of that group, but was forgotten by history. They believe Sparda will return and cleanse the world of corruption.

Fortuna is not ruled by a noble family, but by a church known as either The Church of Sparda or The Order of the Sword. They believe there was a goddess at some point whom Sparda fought for, but the absolute focus of their worship is Sparda.

Nero was excommunicated from there by Sanctus for the impiety of his birth and mother’s status and sent to Garreg Mach before the age of ten. 

Sorted into the Black Eagles, as Rhea had minimal ideas of what to do with a young boy from a goddess-less island, but was bullied to hell and back for having a sex worker as a mother. As in canon, Nero still never knew his mother and was often hauled before his professor, Seteth, or Rhea for fighting the other students.

Probably never actually graduated but changed from learning at the monastery to being a Knight by way of Rhea’s influence, in part due to his lineage, but primarily the inclusion of Kyrie in the Garreg Mach choir, having been sent as a peace offering/envoy by the Order to the Church, in a case of “you fight for me and i’ll keep her safe”.

Still has demonic blood, tying in with the above.

The Devil Bringer came about after he was bitten in battle by a Demonic Beast six months before the game begins. He was bedridden with a fever and the infection for two weeks and his arm mutated during that time. He hides it from everyone but Rhea Knows All.

Officially classed as a Swordmaster like Catherine, but has a high proficiency in archery too. 

Modified his own weapons himself; Red Queen from a silver sword and Blue Rose from a killer bow.

Originally bears an unknown crest. Later revealed in his paralogue to be a minor Crest of Sparda.

Can most often be found in the Training Grounds, but also loitering outside the Cathedral or in the marketplace near the armourer and blacksmith.

Can be recruited by any class, but recruiting him into Black Eagles takes a greater amount of work and higher support level.

Will not reveal the Devil Bringer to anyone until at least B-level support.

#❛ you can tear the heart from my chest. #❛ v. into the dawn.

[beyblaiddyd]

i really am trying to think of how to position fe3h as a narrative that could’ve worked better. like w/ the tragic conflict between edelgard and dimitri. like edelgard who was experimented on by the church of seiros instead, who gets recruited by twsitd because they recognize her potential as a vessel for revenge while also creating a framing where rhea is like, actually sympathetic and well written and has legitimate and necessary reasons for trying to do what she’s trying to do, like, not even just her selfish ‘i want my mom back’ thing which Is tragic but ultimately not enough to carry her but 

maybe like her explicit motive is trying to preserve the nabatean race because her and seteth and flayn are slowly dying and are really The last of the nabateans because of twsitd’s genocide, make them echo the herons but with a more desperate and cruel edge, balance of the question of the worth of a life on both sides of the narrative, with rhea maintaining the crest system because they need the blood of the nabateans to continue flowing to stay alive but it’s slowly not working as well as it dilutes over time, maybe create a situation where the church of seiros really does Explicitly bring some kind of benefit to Faerghus and Leicester that Isn’t just Spiritual/Sociopolitical but is like an actual thing like the nabateans being the only thing keeping the land there alive and habital and if they die out the flames of aillel will spread across the eastern half of fodlan or something so that edelgard’s attempt to conquer and kill rhea poses a real and present danger to dimitri and claude’s people,

#cocoa talks too much #fe3h spoilers