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Hi!
In your opinion, why do you think Alicent's character is so hated? Your reasons to dislike her? (I want to know if they are the same as mine's Imao)
Nice blog btw 🥰
Thank you @97black-storm 💖
I don't dislike book! Alicent, I only dislike her show version.
In the books, she's a strong-willed, ambitious woman who impacts the story with her actions instead of being affected by other people's choices. She's a proactive character instead of a passive one and that's something I respect. She can also be mean and cruel and she's quite a hypocrite but an interesting character doesn't always have to be a good person ( and she's interesting and rotten at the same time). She's kinda like Cersei for me. I don't root for her but I do find her compelling.
However, show! Alicent is a different case entirely. Sometimes, I see glimpses of her book counterpart and then I think that maybe the writers are portraying her as a self righteous woman. One that believes that she can do no wrong and who deludes herself that she's the ultimate victim while not recognising she's the one who causes harm. I can also find that version of her interesting, despite the fact that it's not the same as book! Alicent.
Unfortunately, other times I do believe that the writers really meant to show Alicent on a sympathetic light and that version of herself doesn't sit right with me. Because no matter what the writers or the actors tell us on interviews, Alicent's actions don't align with her supposed "poor victim" status.
Most of my irritation with her character comes from her annoying fandom who preach that she can do no wrong and treat her like she's a helpless teenager when she's a grown up woman with agency over her actions.
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bohemian-nights · 9 months
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i hate what they did to laena on the show. not only has her importance to daemon been reduced to "second best" but also her death was unnecessarily brutal and i hated it from the first time i saw it. after all, at least in the book, laena tried to do what she loved one last time: fly and daemon really seemed to care about her and grieve for her death.
I have a feeling they wanted to make laena su*cide look like "death of a dragonrider" and her agenda, for rhaenyra to look badass when sunfyre burn and eat her. the small part she had seems to exist only to enhance rhaenyra. Hotd isn't even in season 2 yet and it already makes me angry, Got at least took 6 seasons for me to realize the mistakes..
👆🏽The last paragraph is why they really did it. No one in their right mind thinks committing suicide by dragon fire(how many suicides do you see where someone is lighting themselves on fire) is empowering. It’s something a desperate woman who’s out of her mind would do. Even the actress who played older Laena (Nanna Blondell) originally questioned why Sara Hess put that in there(there’s an hour-long podcast on YouTube where she talks about her role as Laena).
They reworked Laena’s story just to make Queenie’s death look better in the end. And the thing about it is it’s still a wasted effort because Rhaenyra doesn’t voluntarily kill herself.
She literally is on the run with no money(she has to sell her jewels/crown), no powerful friends who will come to her aid(cause she locked Corlys up and went after Nettles so Daemon left her a**), and no dragon(cause the small folk she didn’t think were a threat where actually a threat).
She’s going back to Dragonstone thinking it’s a safe place and she can regroup there, but her home has been overtaken by the enemy. She’s lost everything and then she loses her life at the hands of her crippled brother and his crippled dragon🤣
I’m only laughing cause her stans really think she’s a bad b*tch when she’s not. She’s a broke b*tch(in spirit and in “reality”).
This isn’t dying like a “dragon rider”(the concept doesn’t exist in book canon since her dumba** fans love pointing to the books which never support their delusional arguments by the way) this is dying like the flop she:
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(I do feel sorry that little Aegon had to witness that, but even her last boy did nothing to immortalize his mother’s memory. Queenie flopped hard🤷🏽‍♀️)
At this point, I’ve been counting the first season as a trial run. I’ve seen some shows that had a meh first season(only the second half of HOTD was really terrible to me) but turned around to have decent other seasons. However, the fact that they cut the number of episodes plus the striking situation and the fact that they didn’t fully clean house with the showrunner shake up 😬
Laena was unfortunately a victim of sh*tty biased writing, but there’s always hope that her girls get the storylines they deserve.
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greenqueenhightower · 8 months
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But alicent does not love rhaenyra more than her children, older alicent didn't even love older rhaenyra
Hi, thanks for the ask <3
As I mentioned before, I don’t think that Rhaenicent is meant to be a love ship per se and I do stand against the idea that Alicent loves anyone or anything more than her children. And yes, when Rhaenyra and Alicent were younger, they had more opportunities to bond and to express their love and affection with one another, and to be close. As soon as Rhaenyra is named Viserys’ heir, and Alicent becomes the Queen, their relationship becomes stagnant and more complicated but as is evident from the interactions between them (namely, Alicent keeping the torn page, the subtle gazes, still holding hands and yearning for each other’s touch, Alicent not wanting the green council to harm Rhaenyra etc) they still have feelings for one another. What is interesting is that, they themselves are not quite sure what those feelings are, or have become, with the passing of years.
But there is no way that Alicent loves Rhaenyra more than those kids for whom she has already suffered 23 years of abuse by Viserys and for the sake and safety of whom she does all she does.
All in all, Rhaenicent is a "look what we could have been" ship full of angst and regret and outrage and that’s okay! It’s the story of two women making wrong decisions out of hate and hurt and fear and becoming the worst versions of themselves as a result. And the reason?
Because both of them love other people and other things more than they grow to value their relationship, and that’s the point. There are a lot of things in between them now: the Iron Throne, their past mistakes, but most importantly, the love each of them has for her own children. Nothing could ever come between this love, nothing could break it. And that is why Rhaenicent is so tragic. There is no hope for a happy ending, there is no hope for peace and consolation. The only option is to get tangled up into this all consuming and meaningless war that will be the end of them both.
Hope that answers your question!
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princesssszzzz · 9 months
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Love that Rhaena just seems to have all the boyfriends: Lucerys Aemond Corwyn Daeron Garmund
it’s what she deserves HER milkshake brings all the boys to the yard
which of her ships would you say is your favorite? are there any I haven’t mentioned?
😂😂Rhaemond is definitely my favorite because I love the parallels and headcanons. There’s so many good ships so I’m kinda stuck between Daeron, Garmund, and Corwyn
I also ship with Ser Erryk and Jace (I wrote fanfics for them lol) I’ve really thought of the most random ships
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What do you consider to be Daemon Targaryen's true motivation/desire? I remember in the comments of your deleted fic you mentioned it wasn't simply power or the Iron Throne.
I think acknowledgment.
D*emon T*rgaryen on the surface is everything that House T*rgaryen could hope for: a prolific warrior/swordsmen, prince, dragonrider. It was him who raised an army for his brother, and I wonder what that says about Viserys, could he not raise one himself? That even with people’s dislike of him, he was still able to find allies that backed his brother because of he, himself. It must rankle him, as the years go on and he sees how weak Viserys is and even when he’s made his brother’s heir, it’s not solidified or even wanted by the people. Viserys went so far as continuing to get Aemma pregnant, even with her miscarriage and ultimately going so far as to having her cut open in his want of a son.
I don’t think he loved Rhaenyra, not truly. She was a means to an end, and I doubt any of her bastards would’ve grown old enough to inherit the throne, without him finding a way to get rid of them for his own Valyrian children to be the rightful heirs. After all, we know how much he wanted a Valyrian bride. I doubt truthfully and honestly, he would stomach those bastards for long, not when he has finally gotten two male children who look like Valyrians.
I think that had to hurt too. lol His niece being heir and then her having bastards who are so obviously not her husband’s. Once again, he’s looked over. His actions against his brother, against the nobility, scream for attention, for acknowledgment. For someone to say, “perhaps he’s more than what we thought” but in a positive way. In the beginning of the end, he won right. His sons lived and became kings, but it was also his last two male descendants that saw to the toppling of his own house. Even more funny, it’s Robert, a man who claimed the Iron Throne through his T*rgaryen grandmother who became king, who hated all things T*rgaryen. But even he was murdered as well.
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sarcasticsweetlara · 11 months
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regarding this post 👇
https://www.tumblr.com/sarcasticsweetlara/719670223671787520/spoiler-below?source=share
I think it's quite a powerful thing that the Velaryon and Targaryen ancestry continued through Laena and Rhaenyra's line
Yes, some green stans will say Aegon II made Aegon III his heir but he really didn't, he was going to try to have another child and kill his nephew.
And in the end the descendants of female heirs that had been spurned by men were the ones that sat the Iron Throne and the Driftwood Throne.
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ellakomskaikru · 1 year
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Alicent >> Rhaenyra
Alicole >> Daemyra
I disagree. I love Rhaenyra because I find her character very interesting and I also want her to be queen as she was meant to be. She’s also just way more likable to me than Alicent. I find her to be a fun character. I do feel sympathy for Alicent on some level, she is a victim of the patriarchy like Rhaenyra but unlike her wasn’t able to find any freedom. But she then in her bitterness also became a perpetrator of the patriarchy, and I can’t defend many of her actions when she is an adult.
Rhaenyra isn’t perfect either, she can be reckless and selfish, but those negative traits bother me less than Alicent thinking she’s actually a better person than Rhaenyra. I wouldn’t call myself a Daemyra shipper but I’m not against the ship either. In the beginning I didn’t like it for obvious reasons but honestly it’s a Targaryen show so I don’t care anymore lol. As to Alicole, I don’t care for the ship because I don’t like either of the characters in that ship, especially Criston Cole.
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tinfairies · 1 year
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While at Dragonstone Jace and his twin get married in the Targaryen tradition and have a little baby boy. Aegon and Aemond are mad that there childhood crush is married but Viserys is happy he got to meet his great grandson.
Aww 💗
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derangedthots · 1 year
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Who would be the Three Heads in Rhaenyra's time/Jace's era?
Tbh, if Rhaenys had lived I feel like it would've been her, Daemon, and Rhaenyra during Nyra's time but as for Jace... oo I don't know, I think it would just depend if this is post-Dance or No Dance! This is a Big Girl question and I don't have the braincells to answer conclusively ahhh😭😭
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fyrewcters · 1 year
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will you ever write part 2 for prejudice? I really enjoyed it. Good writing!
I’d happily write a part two, I would just need to brainstorm ideas if not I’m happily taking requests
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dontforgetoctober3rd · 7 months
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Who is your favorite HOTD character
Hard to say. I'd have to put them in categories.
Fave to thirst over: Daemon
Fave to read fics about: Aemond
Fave overall: Rhaenys
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Alicent is such an insensitive and detestable person, she knows Laenor is gay, what was Rhaenyra supposed to do ??? Live a sexless and loveless existence ? Never have children ???
Rhaenyra and Laenor had a loving family built on trust and understanding of each other's needs. She was with Harwin with her husband's blessing. But even if she wasn't, Alicent shouldn't interfere to things that didn't concern her.
Alicent is exactly that bitter person who has a bad married life and she wants everyone to suffer the same with her so she can feel a bit better for herself.
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bohemian-nights · 7 months
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People want to get on Alicent and call her a whore for showing her feet to Larry's but see Rhaenyra BEGGING Daemon for a quick f*ck on the beach on the SAME DAY that his wife just got buried and call her a girl boss for it.... PATHETIC
Also it's interesting that Rhaenyra gets abandoned/left alone twice by Daemon in their supposed "romantic" scenes, he leaves her alone in a brothel (he could have easily just grabbed her and say "No! We're going home!") And on the beach where Rhaenyra wakes up alone and Daemon is watching Vhagar.
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Yep, and the thing is they don’t see how saying that oh Rhaenyra is an adult, she’s in control, blah blah blah, only makes it worse because, unlike Alicent who is being blackmailed into prostituting* herself, Queenie willingly throws herself at a man who a. Abused her and continues to abuse her(see choke-gate) b. Abandons her(which is why she was so butthurt and asks him if he loved Laena because she straight up could not stand the thought of that) and c. Doesn’t really care about her a**(he wants to f*ck her daddy/wants power, but he’ll never be king and he can’t be with Viserys so she’s the next best thing. She’s still not good enough though which is why certain events take place 😏)
How her stans think this dumba** pick me is a #girlboss will never not amaze me. Her character is a bird 🦜who never learns which is why she keeps getting abandoned(which eventually gets her killed because she thinks Daemon’s a** is loyal to her🤣).
Her being abandoned twice now by Daemon could be a nice setup for future events👀 (and it's thrice if you count how Daemon was giddy planning war while she almost died giving birth to lizard 🙃)
Now before anyone says “But but but my Valaryan queen wasn’t abandoned in the books,” the Nettles’ situation(when she needs him the most Daemon chooses a girl he has only known for less than six months over his niece-wife he’s known since her birth) begs to differ🤷🏽‍♀️
Rhaenyra is literally the most pathetic woman during the Dance(chasing after d*ck that doesn’t truly want you will never not be pathetic). And as much as I love Daemon, he wasn’t worth the obsession. No man is.
*That scene was gross and unnecessary. The fact that the showrunners tried to say that this show doesn’t have any “explicit sexual violence” is a straight-up lie as evidenced by this scene and all the other “love scenes” on this show. Hell, Alicent has been sexually abused/violated in two scenes(and the fact that they cast a barely legal girl to play her for that first scene 😑). Please give this woman a break in season two(and just stop the sexual violence period because it’s too much on a show that is supposed to be more “empowering” for women than GOT).
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greenqueenhightower · 9 months
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Could you send some asks? 👉🏻👈🏻 I’m bored :/
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princesssszzzz · 1 year
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I've just noticed but I *THINK* the black embroidery on Rhaena's red cloak is a match to the silver pattern that Baela had on her blue dress??
Wait…I gotta look it up
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Yeah right? It’s the same just going a different direction 😲😲
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lostchildofthenewworld · 11 months
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Most of the time I'm chill with Ao3 tagging but the Rhea/Daemon tag drives me nuts! Half of these of these fics are Daemon/Rhaenyra fics with the Rhea/Daemon tag tossed in bc Rhea's around for like 5 sentences before the Daemyra pairing kicks off. Another quarter are Aemond/OFC fics where Rhea dies giving birth to said OFC in Chapter 1. It's like Rhaegar/Elia all over again, every other fic in the tag was a R/L fic by Chapter 3
Oh yeah it pisses me off, badly. I don’t even bother with that tag anymore, it’s useless. But considering a lot of RD fans are JD & RL fans, it makes sense lmao.
Also, iswuttagod if I see another Royce ofc with “bronze” in the fic title I’m going to *line disconnects*
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