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starburr · 4 months
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Got bored and doodled the kimaris line
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dangus-doo · 1 year
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I draw a pen doodle every day until I forget
Day 353: ASW-G-XX Gundam Vidar (Mobile Suit Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans)
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I think of the Gundam frames that I know of from IBO, this is my favorite. It has the best color scheme of the on-screen gundams, and it’s weapons look pretty reasonable to hold.
Every 1/144 model kit that I have with a giant weapon makes the kit topple over or arms fall apart. The Barbatos cannot hold it’s giant mace thing in anything other than leaning it against the ground. The Gundam Seltsam has the same problem. And I appreciate that this guy only has a few moderately huge weapons.
I guess what I’m saying is that this is the only Gundam model kit I want from IBO.
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kydoesthings1 · 9 months
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gaelio is a boob guy methinks
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therosecrest · 1 year
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wordsandrobots · 1 year
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Youtube user Trafalgar Log has put up their fansub of the next Iron-Blooded Oprhans Side Story, which is focused on one particular part of Gjallarhorn between the two seasons. I’m making this a text post because the thumbnail is relatively spoilery and at least one of my Tumblr mutuals is likely to start watching IBO relatively soon, so I thought it a courtesy not to give away the most guessable twist in Season 2 by accident. Also, Tumblr seems to have taken offense to my last post like this and I thought I’d see if this method fares better.
Anyhoo, let’s discuss a test-flight shall we? (Do not look under this cut if you don’t want explicit spoilers for both seasons. I really mean it.)
Right off the bat, I’m delighted Chief Yamazin Toka is getting some spotlight time. She’s one of my favourite background characters for how little of a shit she gives for anything outside her work. She’s just here to tune up mobile suits and stir trouble by giving away important plot points, seemingly just because it took her fancy to do so. Here, she’s been dragged her away from the Reginlaze development work and sent to a ‘remote colony’ to run tests on a ‘disgusting masked machine’, and she isn’t shy about making clear how annoyed she is by that.
Obviously, anyone familiar with Season 2 will know exactly what that ‘masked machine’ is - the revised version of Gundam Kimaris, rebuilt after McGillis wrecked it at the end of Season 1 and camouflaged to disguise its identity. And the pilot is, of course, a scarred Gaelio Bauduin, back from the dead and in a mood.
What is immediately interesting here is that this confirms Toka and Gaelio already knew each other. She notes his change in attitude, having met him when he tested out the Schwalbe Graze (I think the implication is that she’s mocking him when she says she thought him a nice little boy who refused to eat his veggies, since she says that’s how she felt; I don’t think she literally met him as a kid).
Since Gaelio is in his mid to late twenties, being given the chance to test a prototype of a high-performance mobile suit is quite significant. It either speaks to a very speedy development of his piloting skills (which aren’t that impressive on their own, comparatively) or to the privilege that comes with being part of the Seven Stars (it’s this one, obviously). This may just be meant to imply that his use of a Schwalbe at the start of the series is the testing that is being referred to here, but I don’t think that squares with how Toka talks about him.
Also interesting is that Toka starts off holding the position that mobile suit developments that depend on anything other than the skill of pilots and engineers aren’t worth much, which puts her at odds with the installation of the Type E system aboard Kimaris. She calls it over-complicated and ‘just pieced together’, which I assume means it’s a bodge-job, as well as alluding to it thinking on its own.
Anyway, they banter for a while, Toka recalling that despite her friendly attitude, he never hit on her back during the Schwalbe testing. To this, he comments that he doubts anyone would ever try to seduce her -- and frankly, make of that what you will, especially since Toka follows it up by mentioning he used to brag about a technique to make women fall in love with him taken from tales of gods and magic. This serves of set-up for later in the story, but more immediately for calling him on the utter melodrama of running around in a mask and a disguised mobile suit just so that he can jump out and declare who he is later.
This is my favourite part - IBO does a very good job of making the nonsense its characters pull diagetic and this is up there with the twins holding Kudelia’s hair out of the way or Carta getting annoyed that McGillis is always fiddling with his hair.
Gaelio of course protests that he’s just hiding so people don’t see him coming and responds to Toka’s comments about the dangers of piloting the revised Kimaris by saying he’s already died. The ‘suit is animated by his ideals; he’s just moved by it -- and boy is that a resonant line given, you know . . . *gestures* . . . everything.
We cut to a playable section which has Kimaris fighting some Geirails and Hloekk Grazes in a mock battle. This impresses Toka enough to make her start revising her opinion of the possibilities for the Type E, but that’s when the system and Gaelio’s brainwaves start going out of control.
Toka remains calm as Kimaris attacks everything in sight (at least, I think that’s what’s happening? The way it’s animated using game segments and static images isn’t clear). She laughs and says she and Gaelio bring out the best in each other, and that there’s a lot to do on that mess of a control system.
Gaelio gets the Type E to stop by appealing to Ein to save his strength so that they can get revenge on McGillis for their humiliation.
We then cut to a fully animated segment for the point of this episode -- Gaelio taking on the name Vidar, after the young god who slew the demon wolf Fenrir in the old stories he used to read. This is obviously apt in his mind because McGillis is a Fareed, whose crest is said wolf, even if the reality will prove to be somewhat less clear-cut.
And there we are. Toka states the control system is less muddled with dark thoughts than she expected, speaking to the eventual perfect sync between Gaelio and Ein, and the revised Kimaris gets a new designation. This fills in details regarding the problems Gaelio was having that were mentioned at the start of Season 2 and gives him a proper moment of casting aside his identity for his revenge. This is obviously inessential since we basically already knew all that, but it adds something to have Toka prodding at him over it, highlighting the affectation and underlining the misguided elements of his actions.
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botchbehemoth · 6 months
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it's so messed up that after all this time there's only one master grade IBO kit. i don't mind getting base barbatos over lupus or rex, but like... vidar! graze! kimaris trooper! gusion rebake! flauros! bael! they all theoretically run off the same frame, so at least some amount of the work is already there. cmon, gimme my guys! or at least reprint the full mechanics versions.
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stillness-in-green · 1 year
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funny I asked u about ein and gae a short while back and now there's new content via the new side story in the IBO game app, jic ur interested (idk how ull feel about it, but with as few spoilers as possible imo it just feels like the more they try to fill in the blanks, the messier it gets - i want to grip and shake gae so bad)
To my Gaelio/Ein IBO anon, thanks for this and your other follow-ups!  I hope you don’t mind if I just reply to them all here rather than individually or via screenshots. To your points:
Starting with this one, YES, I am incredibly interested and would further love to know where you're getting your info. I follow the IBO official twitter account, but that's about all the engagement I've got with IBO right now, though I've been thinking I'd like to play the game if it ever becomes available in English, like Fate Grand Order is. Please do follow up; I'm voracious to know about the new content!
As to the points from your other asks, regarding Almiria, I’m less “interested” in her current situation and more “actively incensed” that they didn’t show us.  IIRC, the last episode is pretty packed, so I wonder if they would have made time for Almiria if they’d had thirty more seconds of show available, but MAN.  Most underutilized character in the show for sure.
Re: the Type-E seeming to respond to Gaelio calling on it/him, I suppose since Gaelio’s all tapped into it neurologically, there may just be something of a feedback loop going on there—he calls on it, it responds, he feels the response but it’s really just him responding to himself—but while there’s some nice futile tragedy there, I think it’s much more evocative for there to be a ghost of Ein present as well.
In particular, I was so struck by that bit in the last fight with McGillis, when Kimaris Vidar as filtered through Type-E breaks off the kneecap drill to jam it into McGillis’s cockpit.  Like, Ein, my guy, that is the only body you have left any more, and here you are, breaking pieces of it off to fight Gaelio’s fights.  But that’s pretty much what he’d been doing since the first season—breaking himself down piece by piece out of gratitude towards Gaelio and his own desire for revenge.
*chef’s kiss*
Anyway, yeah, suffice to say, 
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is entirely the correct response.
...Maybe with a little bit of
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mixed in, too, though.
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scope-dogg · 1 year
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Yo, remember when I asked you about HG Kimaris Vidar and you said it had some terrible colour correcting stickers? Well I'm working my 5th HG right now, and I think it's an issue with all the IBO MSs, or at least the Gundams. Aerial and Darilbalde had few and manageable stickers, but Bael and Barbatos Lupus Rex had some egregious ones, and the stickers on Gusion Rebake Fullcity legit made me want to learn how to paint models.
The consensus seems to be that G-witch high grades are just better all round in that regard. The thing is that I know it doesn't have to be that way, the MG Barbatos can be built without any stickers whatsoever and still look good, I think the 1/100 full mechanics kits are better too, though maybe comparing HGs to 1/100 scale kits isn't entirely fair. Does make me wonder what RG IBO kits might look like.
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inspectahraz · 1 year
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Gundam Kimaris Vidar complete! It was a bitch to pose. Ibo kits are kinda delicate.
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lofi-valentine · 6 months
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Gundam Vidar from IBO
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feebrizky · 1 year
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alpha-tequila-uncle · 3 years
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It is 4 am
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kydoesthings1 · 3 months
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kimaris vidar vs bael if mcgillis was locked in
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erika-mr · 2 years
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Vidar is done. Straight build
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wordsandrobots · 4 months
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Is it just me or do the pilots that hold onto their suits for longer just generally tend to be stronger than the ones that switch them around? Mika and Gaelio, the ones that held on to the same MS for the longest in the series (Barbatos and Kimaris, respectively) are freakishly powerful with their respective Gundsms. The Bael, being the first Gundam in IBO, stayed with its pilot for the entire duration of the Calamity war. There's some sort of strengthening connection between pilot and machine going on here. The thing with the AV system pretty much being the first system in a mainline show where the pilot has to be physically tethered to the MS might also play into this. Idk this is sort of a thought vomit.
No, it's definitely an interesting angle . . .
Iron-Blooded Orphans isn't strictly the first Gundam series to play with the idea of linking a pilot directly to the 'suit. Arguably, the psycommu from the Universal Century stuff is the earliest human/machine interface in Gundam, albeit one bound up in the psychic powers and suchlike. Mobile Fighter G Gundam introduced a telepresence-style interface allowing martial artists to map their skills on to their machines. Later, Turn A Gundam would include a full-body connector allowing direct operation of a mobile suit, which would be kind of back-adapted into the UC canon via Unicorn's NTD system. All these, however, are presented as exceptional and fairly unique (in G Gundam, the Gundams are their own special class of mobile suit, even if most of the mobile suits we see *are* Gundams).
In IBO, though, the Alaya-Vijnana system is a more widespread, even commonplace technology, allowing the production of cheap, expendable soldiers who require minimal training. True, there is an original or 'perfected' version of the system that accords better with past examples, permitting mobile suits to operate at a superhuman excess. Mostly, however, the A-V is used as an illustration of the impact of military development beyond a national army or clean lab setting. They also have that great visual of the tethering, a far more viscerally arresting image than past attempts to play with the same concept.
This aside, what about the idea of pilots growing stronger the longer they use the same mobile suits?
I think in IBO specifically, there's a few things at play that mean it's worth digging into what we mean by 'stronger'. At a base level, certain mobile suits are described as being more powerful -- the whole point of the Gundam frame is to be exceptionally strong and durable, with two Ahab reactors allowing it to perform fetes beyond other machines. It is however entirely possible for a non-Gundam machine to match or even best a Gundam (Kimaris vs the Grimgerde or Barbatos vs the Reginlaze Julia). Pilot skill is also a factor and on top of that there's the A-V system, which allows for more instinctive control over a mobile suit, making it a physical extension of the pilot. In some cases, this permits novice pilots to overcome those who we can assume to have had much more training and experience; conversely, in others, a skilled non-A-V pilot can overcome pilots using the system -- see the Turbines vs the Brewers, for example.
Then there's the fact Gaelio is a cheating cheater who cheats. The Alaya-Vijnana Type E exists specifically because he comes up short in his fight with McGillis; even with Kimaris' extra oomph, he doesn't have the raw skill necessary to beat his old friend. So he lets Ein's undead brain do the flying instead. The way it's presented, while Gaelio is technically in Kimaris' driver-seat throughout, he isn't actually in control for the majority of its operations during Season 2. The writing is very explicit that the Type E is puppeteering his body, allowing it to exceed those pesky human limitations without resorting to full-on Alaya-Vijnana surgery. Gaelio selects the target, yes, but it's otherwise not *his* strength at play. In fact, the Eve of Vidar side-story shows the system can run entirely out of his control, to the point of tearing off and destroying everything in its path (hence the 'calibration' that keeps Gundam Vidar out of action for the first few episodes of Season 2).
[As an aside, we know the IBO setting has AI technology capable of matching and exceeding human pilots, and that mobile suits have algorithmic control programs assisting with their operation, so it wouldn't be out of the question to do all this without the squishy bits. Certainly, on the face of it, there seems little reason not to just plug Ein's brain into Kimaris and let it have at. But since military AI has a history of working out . . .
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. . . poorly, it would make sense for there to be restrictions on its use. It might even be unquestioned best practice to always have a human with their hand on the on/off switch. So whether or not the Type E is actually capable of running a Gundam on its own, Gaelio's presence is probably non-negotiable.]
My point is, Gaelio is functionally a doorstop when the Type E is in operation so can we actually say he's getting stronger as a pilot over the course of the series? He certainly expends a lot of effort and makes personal sacrifices in order to reach a position where he beats McGillis. He has to be physically augmented to use the Type E, breaking his previous moral stance on that kind of thing. And Kimaris itself undergoes a lot of upgrades aimed at combatting McGillis' style of fighting. So in a sense, yes, being Kimaris' pilot for such a length of time means he gets stronger. Yet isn't it more like a lot of compensation for a persistent lack of strength? Gaelio himself doesn't necessarily improve through all this; it's more that he's willing to do things that give him a greater edge.
Which is a good point to turn to our other example. Mikazuki and Barbatos follow a similar trajectory over the course of the show, with the 'suit undergoing constant upgrades and Mika gradually removing the limits on his connectivity with it. True, it's not a case of Barbatos using Mika's body but --
Well, let's back up on that one. Because it isn't presented as Mika becoming a redundant extension of his 'suit. He is always clearly the one in control. However, when he takes . . . let's call it the first-stage limiter off his Alaya-Vijnana system in Edmonton, demanding more so he can beat the Graze Ein, he suddenly knows how to use Barbatos' sword to its fullest extent. Previously, his comments suggest he's at 'pointy end goes in the other guy' level with the thing. After the connection is deepened, he's able to perform incredibly precise cutting strikes and take Ein to pieces. As if the information on doing that was already stored inside the machine and just needed to be unlocked.
Yet the interesting thing is, he doesn't use that skill again. Not directly. Barbatos Lupus' sword is designed more for clobbering than slicing, for all that it *is* a sword, distinct from the clubs he favoured before. Later, he'll return entirely to the mace as his principle melee weapon. Almost as if he took the skills he'd . . . downloaded and then adapted them to his existing strengths.
That seems to be what is happening here. Where Vidar/Kimaris is a deliberately constructed weapon targeting McGillis, circumventing the shortcomings of its pilot, Barbatos is somewhat more organically tailored to act as an amplifier for the man in the cockpit. It's reworked to fit his style. Even in the middle of battling Hashmal, where we might expect residual performance data to come to the fore again, instead Mikazuki's existing impulses go into overdrive, crushing everything in his path with speed and raw power.
So the longer Barbatos is with Mika, the more it resembles him and the more strongly they act as a single unit. Not accidentally, either. Despite the implied contrast above, it's very much something Tekkadan and Teiwaz's mechanics deliberately engineer over the course of events. But it's based on Mikazuki's personality and his preferences (he seems to have looked at Hashmal's tail and gone 'I need that'), rather than with a particular end in mind.
I think if I was going to draw a thesis out of this, it'd be that all this is just an extreme version of something that happens with any pilot. Amida outfights Julieta (someone whose life is literally dedicated to mobile suit combat) and the Julia (a machine at the bleeding edge of 'suit development) in a relatively unexceptional Hyakuren. That is to say, the Hyakuren isn't a very flashy mobile suit. But this *is* a custom model and more importantly, one Amida has been using for a considerable length of time. We know pilots update their 'suits using data from old fights, that they tweak the settings to better fit their abilities, and that they train extensively in simulations. It makes sense for someone like Amida, with likely approaching a decade of additional experience, to be nigh-on unstoppable compared to everyone around her. She's put in the effort. She's gotten comfortable with her equipment. She knows exactly what she's doing.
The Alaya-Vijnana exaggerates this effect, allowing both rapid advancement in ability (the Tekkadan boys are exceptionally quick students because part of the point of the surgery is to circumvent learning curves) and for the pilot to adapt to the machine and vise versa. I think the longer someone used an A-V with the same 'suit, the more they'd be able to understand that 'suit's quirks and direct maintenance to correct or increase them. Ultimately, though, I suspect that's just speeding up a general rule.
Because the A-V is never presented as an instant-win condition. It doesn't trump everything else on its own. Skill still matters. Experience still matters. Ein runs rings around Shino while they're using comparable machines because, A-V or not, Ein trained for years in a Graze; Shino had been using one for a few weeks, at most.
I love that about IBO. It never has any of the tech be magic by itself. You need a pilot willing to go the extra mile and put in the effort to become something truly incredible.
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g-29astarothtrinity · 3 years
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Flying Through Space to the Beat of Funky Jazz
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