#ilene chaiken

[90smovies]

#Barb Wire 1996 #Barb Wire #Pamela Anderson #David Hogan #Chris Warner #Ilene Chaiken #Chuck Pfarrer #90s

[fwirbanks]

omg this pic is a treasure!

#the l word #uh huh her #Leisha hailey #camila grey #kate moennig #mia kirshner #pam grier #ilene chaiken #alice pieszecki #shane mccutcheon #kit porter #jenny schecter

[yourdailyqueer]

Ilene Chaiken

Gender: Female

Sexuality: Lesbian

DOB: 30 June 1957  

Ethnicity: Ashkenazi Jewish

Nationality: American

Occupation: Producer, director, screenwriter, entrepreneur

#Ilene Chaiken #lesbianism #lesbian women #femme #lgbtq #female #lesbian #1957 #jewish #ashkenazi jewish #producer #director #screenwriter #entrepreneur

[jennyfuckingschecter]

Okay so let’s get one thing straight: all of the main characters were toxic at one point or another, for some characters they were just consistently toxic

Here is a list of my interpretation from least toxic to most

7.) Dana Fairbanks

6.) Helena Peabody

5.) Shane McCutcheon

4.) Alice Pieszecki

3.) Bette Porter

2.) Tina Kennard

1.) Jenny Schecter

For my list I’m keeping track of not only romantic and sexual toxicity— I’m keeping in mind the ways in which they treat their friends and other characters

#the l word #shane mccutcheon #bette porter #jenny schecter #alice pieszecki #dana fairbanks #thelword #lbgtq #lgtbqia+ #ilene chaiken #mia kirshner #jennifer beals #thelwordedit #wlw culture #kate moennig #lgbtq characters #erin daniels #leisha hailey

[elyalovi]

"The L Word" es una de las series más icónicas de la comunidad LGTBQ+. Aunque no fue perfecta, logró conectar con una generación y una comunidad que había tenido muy poca representación en el mundo de las series. La creadora de la serie, Ilene Chaiken, mencionó una vez que solo quería ver una serie en la que pudiera sentirse identificada y por eso inspiró su serie en su grupo de amigas. Hasta ese momento, las representaciones de lesbianas en la pantalla eran escasas y a menudo presentaban historias trágicas o solo eran personajes secundarios que ayudaban a los protagonistas. "The L Word" desafió estos patrones, al igual que lo hizo "Queer as Folk" en su momento. 

La mayoría de los problemas de "The L Word", que ahora podemos reconocer (aunque no justificar), surgieron de la cultura de la época. En aquel entonces, no se tenía pleno conocimiento de las problemáticas dentro de la comunidad LGTBQ+ ni de las cuestiones relacionadas con la representación en los medios. En ese sentido, ver la serie ahora con los valores del presente va a causar uno que otro momento incómodo y hasta chocante. Por ejemplo, en la primera temporada, vemos a un hombre blanco identificado como lesbiana, las bromas sobre la bisexualidad de Alice y en la tercera temporada varias veces hay un maltrato hacia Max y su transición. Esto no se refiere sólo a las historias dentro de la serie, sino también a las decisiones de casting, como la elección de Sarah Shahi, de ascendencia iraní, para interpretar a un personaje latino, una elección considerada en la actualidad como una falta de respeto a la comunidad latina. 

->Autopsia de #TheLWordGenerationQ

#the l word #the l word gen q #ilene chaiken

[gameofthunder66]

Law & Order: Organized Crime (2021- ) tv series

-(started) watchin' Season 4- 1/19/2024- on NBC (Peacock)

#Law & Order: Organized Crime #(2021- ) #tv series #dick wolf #ilene chaiken #matt olmstead #crime/drama #police procedural #thriller #christopher meloni #ainsley seiger #brent antonello #danielle mone truitt #rick gonzalez #nicky torchia #jeffrey scaperrotta #autumn mirassou #NBC #Peacock

[grimesapologist]

tiny archive of some posts about the l word from ourchart

#the l word #ourchart #ilene chaiken #tibette

[mistysnat]

the thing is......the five season long arc culminating in jenny and shane’s romance could have been so amazing. only shane could make jenny feel safe and loved and stable the way she craved. only jenny could make shane desire commitment and be comfortable enough to open up and truly be herself because of the deep love she already has for her formed through friendship first. i’m literally screaming crying chewing through my furniture

#the slow burn. the way it SHOULD have completed both of their stories so perfectly #ilene chaiken im suing you #they both would have done anything for their BEST FRIEND INCLUDING LOVE EACH OTHER RIGHT #the l word #shenny #and by the way when i say shane be her tru self i mean a caretaker because jenny inspires that in her #she would be the best girlfriend and so would jenny #all the little things they would do for each other....

[yourstreetserenade]

What are your thoughts on The L Word if you’ve seen it?

I saw the original and the first few seasons were entertaining but I lost interest. I mean I watched it to the end but I wasn't really invested, especially those later seasons that went off the track. I liked Shane and Alice and Dana a lot though.

Not to say TLW wasn't good or meaningful or whatever but I never connected with it. That was probably mostly to do with its setting. Like it had this trendy, sleek LA vibe it was trying to project, which cool. But I kind of always felt more drawn to the working class setting of Queer as Folk. Everything was a little more dingey and real. Michael worked retail hell and Emmett had a series of unfulfilling jobs before finding what suits him. I remember when I first watched the show when I was younger I thought Mel and Lindsay were soooo boring but when I got older I realized how grounded they felt and appreciated them so much more.

So I'm not saying QAF is better or anything just that I connected to it in a way I could never connect to TLW because I could relate to the setting. For some people it might have been the other way around, to each their own.

#but yeah #remember when ilene fucking chaiken decided to make the last season of TLW a murder mystery because she wanted to do that prison spin off #which yes okay she was ahead of the game and could have tapped into that orange is the new black thing #but like this is ilene.. #she wouldn't have done it well lol #that whole murder mystery thing was such a disservice to the characters though who deserved better closure #i havent seen the new seasons so it looks like shane alice and bette and tina have gotten to continue their stories #hopefully they get better send offs this time around #also i know i said i cant really say one show is better than the other #what i will say is that imo mel and linds are better than bette and tina lol #mel and linds arent perfect and yes they both cheated on each other too #but unlike bette and tina they haven't broken up like 15 different times and expected me the viewer to keep caring #continually breaking up your characters is just such a sign of lazy writing

[90smovies]

#Barb Wire #Barb Wire 1996 #Pamela Anderson #David Hogan #Chris Warner #Ilene Chaiken #90s

[packedandstrapped]

have u seen the l word? if so who’s ur fav character???

Have I seen The L Word? Boo, I used to go to watch parties on Sunday nights when the original series was still on the air.

I understand that this character is problematic in so many ways but honestly who on that show wasn’t? Favorite character hands down was Bette Porter. I identified deeply with her drive for success, the terrible boundaries she kept with her father, using promiscuity as validation, her desire to be a provider for a family, and her unforgivable self destructive tendencies. I loved the contrast of Bette and Tina together when that relationship wasn’t a total dumpster fire and I always hoped Ilene Chaiken would throw us a bone and show some kind of healthy relationship there.

I wanted to be Shane in some capacity. I wanted to fuck Kit, Carmen, Alice, and Tina. I wanted to kill Jenny.

Now we need to know who your favorite character was.

#the l word #just terrible representation of actual lesbians #look everyone is rich and mostly white

[lo-diehards]

NBC's Law & Order Franchise -- A Franchise in Disarray

NBC's Law & Order franchise (which started with the original series in 1990) has seen numerous changes over the years, but in this post-COVID-19 era of television, some of these new changes are not for the good.

The Law & Order 2022 reboot is lacking what made it's original run legacy television, Special Victims Unit lost a beloved show runner/executive producer (Warren Leight who decided the leave at the end of season 23) and cast member (Kelli Giddish, who was fired at the start of season 24, which later resulted in controversy as details of her firing came to light), and Organized Crime which has had a revolving door of show runners/executive producers since it's inception BEFORE it even made it to air.

I'm going to start in sequential order in which negative change [IN MY OPINION] came into play with this once beloved TV franchise that was once taglined by critics and press as "Must See TV/Most Watched Television"

Please Click the read more tab below to read my thoughts on the brand and what I feel can be done to correct the course of the brand, before it's too late... hang on to your seats!

Law & Order: Organized Crime (2021-present, season 3) - a Disorganized Mess.

The Christopher Meloni led series has had numerous complications behind the scenes since the show's inception pre-production. Chicago P.D.'s Matt Olmstead co-created the show with Dick Wolf (and later Ilene Chaiken) and Olmstead left the production after the pilot ("What Happens in Puglia") to be replaced by Chaiken (of The L Word fame). Law & Order: OC never started with much of a premise and a way to establish itself as it started with Stabler mostly bringing Kathy Stabler's killers (the Wheatley's: portrayed by Dylan McDermott and Tamara Taylor) to justice. And in between that, Stabler and the unit going in and out of undercover assignments. The Organized Crime Control Bureau has never really been fleshed out since the series start; season 3 brought some new detectives into the fold to assist with that but storylines in the serialized series have been all over the place.

While Organized Crime was meant to distance itself from the formula of the Law & Order brand, it doesn't feel like a Law & Order show - it feels more like the Stabler show to where we mostly see Stabler as IMO this almost vigilante cop seeking retribution, in this day and age (and Stabler's because he should definitely be matured from this kind of mindset), it doesn't work. This show lacks "the Law & Order feel" (title cards don't even exist in this show except for one episode, "Gimmie Shelter") and I believe it's why the series doesn't hold audience much as SVU or even the rebooted mothership.

It doesn't help that the show is now on it's 6th show runner, being SVU's David Graziano (who is surrounded by a controversy of his own that seems to be being pushed under the rug and ignored by higher ups at the network and at Wolf Entertainment). Olmstead, Chaiken, Barry O'Brien, Bryan Goluboff from SVU, Sean Jablonski and now Graziano. What ever is going on behind the scenes at OC needs to come to a full stop otherwise this show won't make it to syndication status (5 seasons, 100 episodes). This show has a super talented cast that deserve the best; Danielle Moné Truitt and Ainsley Sieger absolutely shine!

Law & Order (reboot 2022-present, season 2) - more like crash & burn.

Now this show is really pushing my buttons and it's only because of how the stories are being written for this reboot starting from the very first episode. Dick Wolf and the network decided to give the mothership it's very much deserved second chance (it never should have been canceled) and they've managed to put together a stellar cast out of Jeffery Donovan (Burn Notice), Hugh Dancy (Hannibal), Odelya Halevi, and Camryn Manheim. Sam Waterston returned as Jack McCoy and this season Mehcad Brooks (Supergirl, Necessary Roughness) replaced Anthony Anderson who only opted to do one season.

I'm not going to sugar coat this, making Rick Eid (who 'developed' a show that was already developed once back in 1988/1990 when he was still in grade school - it's a reboot where nothing has changed formula wise!) the show runner/EP over this series is a very poor business decision. Eid has had a poor history within the Law & Order franchise itself. He was part of a writing team that Dick Wolf and the network had to intervene and dismiss back in 2007 due to declining ratings on mother ship due to the decline in the quality of the writing at that time, Wolf made him show runner over Law & Order: SVU's 18th season and Eid "had to move on [to Chicago P.D.]", basically for the same reason. The. Same. Reason. It's a case of "Fool me once, fool me twice," we're on the 3rd now.

From the minute "The Right Thing" hit the airwaves, I knew it was 2007/2016 all over again! The reboot storylines are tone-deaf, have massive plot holes, pull directly from the headlines without much deviance, skew to certain political leanings (hard left and right) and is shoved into the faces of viewers, and problems with legal strategy that actually go against the actual law and procedures that wouldn't even wash in an actual courtroom (and yes I am aware it's work of fiction but that is why they have legal advisors on the payroll - or at least I hope).

And the characters? Caricatures. I can't really root for any of them - Samantha Maroun & Jalen Shaw (Halevi & Brooks who are great) are the closet ones who are actually being fleshed out as characters that can be relatable/likable. Cosgrove and Price need work bad! Cosgrove is basically a more hard-core Elliot Stabler with a thick Bronx accent in one episode and then another episode he's a young Lennie Briscoe/Michael Westen from Burn Notice mix; it's not consistent. Most seem to prefer him portraying Cosgrove in a Michael Westen-ish style as opposed to Stabler 2.0 (if that's the case swap Donovan and Meloni).

Nolan Price? I don't know where to start. Who is Nolan Price? I don't know honestly but I can tell you he is NOT a great prosecutor. He's no Mike Cutter, McCoy or even Ben or Peter Stone. Price is written just as inconsistent as Cosgrove is and the cases as they make it to court and trial make Price worse, because it seems ambition and wanting to win is the only thing this character has. "Bias" that just aired showcased Price as a colleague was murdered and he had a personal investment in the case. He should have be recused and maybe even suspended due to his misconduct. And Price's arrogance in this episode, telling Jack McCoy that he let him run with the case because "I'm the best." I love Hugh Dancy and he's a magnificent actor but this writing is hurting this role for him in my view.

And speaking of McCoy, where the hell is he? I understand Sam Waterston can't do what he was doing back in 2007 in the courtroom scenes and he is the district attorney but my goodness, his scenes "lack meat" now, it's all bone. Jack says something pithy about the case, yells a little, and walks out his office/elevator/outside. Eid said in an interview that he wanted McCoy to walk in the shoes of Adam Schiff (Steven Hill), if that's the case Schiff was way more involved in his prosecutors cases and had more say in the direction the cases go. Again, it goes back to the writing.

Unlike on OC, Law & Order could use a show runner change, and it could use it ASAP, because what's airing as quality in this reboot is tarnishing the legacy that the original mothership established.

Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (1999-present, season 24) - what is going on behind the scenes and on screen is especially heinous.

Warren Leight's departure last year was the catalyst, however Kelli Giddish's firing was the irresistible force slamming the immovable object - so to speak. Kelli Giddish was fired in place of Wolf/NBC wanting younger blood (Molly Burnett, Days of our Lives); not even a year prior Wolf/NBC faced a form of backlash after dropping two cast members of color - Demore Barnes and Jamie Gray Hyder - in exchange for one male (Octavio Pisano). Star Mariska Hargitay tried to step in to keep Kelli on the show but she was overruled by Wolf and the network.

Meanwhile something that hasn't been overruled but more overlooked; new show runner David Graziano's prior and current accusations of bullying, misogyny, and toxic behavior on sets and behind the scenes of show's he's worked on, including SVU. Graziano took to his Instagram to try and 'explain' his accusations but he did not deny them. How can you write and supervise any kind of story about women's empowerment, healing after trauma and sexual assault, inclusiveness, and justice as someone who has/is doing personal actions against that very stance? And how can Dick Wolf and NBC over look it? Money talks in short. He's also running OC for the last 3 episodes in this season.

That aside which is problematic of itself, like the mother ship, the storylines on SVU have taken a turn sideways. Season 24 started off pretty solid, it wasn't the best it's been in it's prime and younger years (S3-7, and again S13-17), but it was passable to view. Now? Post-Kelli Giddish it seems like the focus is on Muncy (Burnett), Velasco (Pisano) and the recurring guest cast (Kevin Kane and Jasmine Batchelor); ICE T and Peter Scanavino's screen time is noticeably decreased this season than season's past. And like mothership's storylines, inconsistency is on display in full view.

Under Graziano in his first 6 episodes (Gimmie Shelter is written by Rick Eid and Gwen Sigan as part of the season premiere crossover) were the solid ones, even before Kelli's last episode I felt a change in tone coming into play; and coming off of the season's Bronx trilogy its even more noticeable. It's like it's a mix of Eid's season 18 and some other show that's NOT SVU. The focus has gone off of the survivors, veteran characters, the pursuit of the worst criminal offenders, the pursuit of justice and the unit itself. SVU has gone off of the rails and if they want this show to continue to break records and preserve the legacy that it has both on and off screen, they better make some changes fast. SVU's ratings haven't exactly decreased but all this 'change' could soon have a negative impact on them; SVU's dominate the entire franchise right now as a show that's consistently been on air for 24 years now in a changing TV landscape.

In summary/my suggestion(s): the Law & Order franchise needs to undergo some major changes behind the scenes, starting with the gentlemen running these shows. I don't directly want to call for the dismissal of show runners/executive producers Rick Eid and David Graziano (certainly from SVU) but I do feel this is the start absent them being given a different set of marching orders that they should follow (not likely). The issues I brought up above only touch the surface, I don't want to sound nit-picky but things could and should be better.

This franchise is 33 years old and still going, and it could go longer and further but if there aren't any immediate changes that make an impact and turn things around, and the shows keep going about as they are: this franchise won't be around much longer. "The Story Is Everything" is what Dick Wolf has said about the L&O brand and NBC even used that as a tagline during the prime years on the network 2003-2007. That's where the investment needs to start.

#Law & Order #Law & Order: SVU #Law & Order: Organized Crime #Law & Order: OC #Organized Crime #L&O #SVU #Law & Order: Special Victims Unit #NBC #Mariska Hargitay #Christopher Meloni #Sam Waterstoon #Hugh Dancy #Mehcad Brooks #David Graziano #Rick Eid #Dick Wolf #Peacock

[ctblue17]

The L Word: New York

Yes, please!! My The L Word: New York wishlist is Ilene Chaiken showrunner (she's not perfect but she knows what TLWNY should be), focused on Bette & Tina (the show won't have a chance without them) along with Shane and Alice (I need to see more OGs scenes), no appearances by any GenQ actors or characters (there just needs to be a clean break I could accept Angie, though)

#thelwordnewyork

#tibette #tibettehasalwaysbeenendgame #thelword #thelwordgenerationq #betteandtina #jenniferbeals #laurelholloman #betteporter #tinakennard

[iwanthermidnightz]

Not The L Word Generation Q being canceled and a reboot of the original with its creator Ilene Chaiken being in the works…. I’m kind of not mad about it?

There were good parts about generator q, but it wasn’t the same. I think there’s ways to improve without straying so far from what everyone loved about it the og l word. So if it’s going to be reworked, I’m excited to see where it goes?

I’m sure there’s different opinions about this, but for me I’m just really nostalgic. If they can bring a piece of what I grew up on back, I wouldn’t be opposed.

[hrwinter]

I didn’t send those anons but speaking of shows, do you watch the L word (original or gen q)? I wish more people watched it lol

i absolutely did watch the L word, and ilene chaiken is one of those few creators/head writers who have earned my great ire (with content i loved then hated) up there with marlene king and jessica queller. i never watched an episode after a specific character died, and i didn’t watch the new one because i had no trust.

#hr’s askhole #the trauma I still bear

[blackacre13]

Have you seen desert hearts? It’s an 80s movie that’s currently available on HBO max and it’s about 1950s lesbians falling in love in a small desert town. It’s very cute and fluffy and it has an age gap and a brunette and a blonde sleeping together as per the Cate Blanchett doctrine 😂😉 I feel like you would really love it and it could also make for a fantastic loubbie au

Ugh you know, I haven't and now that it's entering the O8/Tumblr gaysphere, I really need to. They're ALWAYS talking about it on Pants (Leisha Hailey and Kate Moennig's podcast aka Alice and Shane of The L Word/L Word: Gen Q.) as one of the few wlw media things they had growing up and Ilene Chaiken (who created the L Word) was inspired by it so I feel like it's overdue.

I will absolutely check it out now that I know it's accessible somewhere! Thanks for passing this along. Once I've actually seen it (hopefully, sooner rather than later) I would love to use it as a Loubbie AU of course. Yes, especially because of the CB blonde/brunette doctrine. Thanks for the rec!

#queue #blackacre13 #media recs #movie recs #desert hearts #wlw #ocean's eight #oceans 8 #oceans eight #o8 fanfic #o8 fanfiction #ocean's eight fanfic #ocean's eight fanfiction #ocean's 8 fanfic #ocean's 8 fanfiction #ocean's 8 #lou miller #Debbie ocean #the l word #leisha hailey #kate moennig #Lou Miller x Debbie ocean #lou x debbie #Debbie x lou #lou and debbie #Debbie and lou #lou x deb #deb x lou #lou and deb #deb and lou